Indefensible Spending
What should be the most important issue in this election is one that is rarely, if ever, addressed: Why is U.S. military spending at the highest point, in inflation-adjusted dollars, than at any time since the end of World War II? Why, without a sophisticated military opponent in sight, is the United States spending trillions of dollars on the development of high-tech weapons systems that lost their purpose with the collapse of the Soviet Union two decades ago?
You wouldn't know it from the most-exhausting-ever presidential primary campaigns, but the 2009 defense budget commits the United States to spending more (again, in real dollars) to defeat a ragtag band of terrorists than it spent at the height of the Cold War fighting the Soviet superpower and what we alleged were its surrogates in the Korean and Vietnam wars.
The Pentagon's budget for fiscal year 2008 set a post-World War II record at $625 billion, and that does not include more than $100 billion in other federal budget expenditures for homeland security, nuclear weapons and so-called black budget -- or covert -- operations.
And what are we spending all this money on? We are talking high-tech war toys designed to fight a Cold War enemy that no longer exists, including the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program, with its estimated total price tag of $300 billion, and Virginia-class submarines at $2.5 billion each. Who cares that the terrorists lack submarines for the Navy to battle deep in the ocean, for which the Virginia-class submarine was designed?
Then there are the F-22 Raptor jet fighters that no longer fill a credible military purpose but will take $65 billion out of taxpayers' pockets. The Raptor includes stealth technology and elaborate electronics designed to counter threatened leaps in Soviet war-fighting capability. In 2005, Lawrence J. Korb, an assistant secretary of Defense in the Reagan administration, wrote that the Raptor "is the most unnecessary weapon system being built by the Pentagon."
Since President Bush's first year in office, according to the Government Accountability Office, the Defense Department has doubled its future planned investment in those ultra-pricey weapons from $790 billion to $1.6 trillion.
When pressed on why the massive weapons arsenal we already possess, which was credited with intimidating the Soviet Union into surrender, isn't sufficient to keep the peace in a suddenly unipolar world, defense hawks sometimes cite what they claim is an emerging threat from China. "The Chinese are designing new classes of submarines with increased capabilities," said Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.). "If we do not move to produce two submarines a year as soon as possible, we are in serious danger of falling behind."
That is nonsense. China is not even a serious regional power, as the Pentagon's 2007 report to Congress makes clear: "The intelligence community estimates China will take until the end of this decade or later to produce a modern force capable of defeating a moderate-size adversary." The report noted that "China's military is focused on assuring the capability to prevent Taiwan independence," but this last week the military threat to Taiwan gave way to a historic peace opening, with the first visit by the head of Taiwan's ruling party to the mainland since the 1949 revolution.
Oh, and here's another thing. Those Virginia-class submarines that Lieberman says are so important to our national security and for which he lobbied so hard? General Dynamics' Electric Boat Co. has received multibillion-dollar contracts to build them. The company is based in Connecticut, suggesting that the real goal here was to find an enemy -- any enemy -- that would justify spending U.S. tax dollars on weapons produced in his home state.
Since the 9/11 attacks, the United States has been on a madcap spending spree on wars and weapons having little, if anything, to do with combating terrorism, nothing to do with the imaginary threat from China and everything to do with sustaining an enormously bloated defense industry threatened with extinction because of the demise of the communist enemy. The fact is, the end of the Cold War was a welcome development for everyone except for those in the military-industrial complex whose profits and jobs, as President Eisenhower famously warned, are rooted in every congressional district.
As President George H.W. Bush noted in his 1992 State of the Union address, "communism died this year," and, he promised, "we can stop making the sacrifices we had to make when we had an avowed enemy that was a superpower. Now we can look homeward even more and set right what needs to be set right." Toward that end, he ordered his secretary of Defense, Dick Cheney, to initiate a 30% cut in defense spending. Gloom and doom in the military-industrial complex was palpable.
But then came what defense industry lobbyists and their many allies on both sides of the aisle in Congress came to treat as the gift of 9/11, offering dramatic imagery of a new global enemy. Fortunately for those who profit from a permanent war economy, few in government or the media were inclined to challenge the enemy bait-and-switch game that unfolded. The defense industry and the Pentagon bureaucracy that services it were all too happy to accept whatever war they could embrace, even if the new "global war on terrorism" that President George W. Bush launched was to be fought against an enemy armed primarily with weapons that could be purchased for a few dollars at Home Depot.
The Soviets had developed the most modern arsenals, and the 9/11 hijackers were armed with box cutters, so how could we justify spending more to defeat Al Qaeda than we ever did to combat the communist enemy? That is the third-rail issue that politicians and the media dread touching because of the national security hysteria generated after the 9/11 attacks. Yet no presidential candidate can be serious about cutting the federal debt, improving education, holding down taxes or paying for any of the other things that the candidates of both parties promise without cutting military spending.
Without slashing the inflated military budget, the next president, who will inherit at least a $400-billion current-accounts deficit along with debt service on seven years of profligate military spending, will not be able to finance any of the domestic reforms that both the surviving Republican candidate and his two Democratic opponents advocate.
Maybe one can make a case that it is appropriate that more than half of the discretionary funds in the 2009 budget go to defense, and all the other federal programs for science, education, infrastructure, global warming and nonmilitary international programs compete for the rest. But isn't it bizarre that the biggest peacetime military budget in U.S. history -- 35% higher than when Bush came into office and larger than the military budgets of all other nations combined -- is not even discussed in the current presidential contest?
That is because politicians from both parties are complicit in the waste of taxpayer dollars on weapons systems that deliver jobs to their home districts and profits to their defense industry campaign contributors. It is a disease of our political system predicted by two of our great wartime generals-turned-president. First was George Washington, warning in his farewell address that once a nation embarks on the path of imperial adventure, the irrationality of false patriotic appeals would trump reason. What better time to recall Washington's historic caution to the nation "to guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism."
In Eisenhower's farewell address, he warned that "in the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."
There is no better evidence of the prescience of Washington and Eisenhower than the fact that the most obscenely bloated military budget in U.S. history is not an issue in the current presidential campaign. Sadly, defense spending has become enshrined in our political system as a totem to be worshiped rather than a policy program to be critically examined.
Robert Scheer, who wrote an Op-Ed column for The Times for 13 years, is the editor in chief of Truthdig (truthdig.com) and the author, most recently, of "The Pornography of Power: How Defense Hawks Hijacked 9/11 and Weakened America," to be published this week by Twelve Books.
Copyright 2008 Los Angeles Times
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67 Comments so far
Show AllThe last time the army did anything for us was when they helped defeat Hitler. Now we are Hitler.
The answer is obvious. The government of the U.S.A. is aware that aliens from outer space with incredibly sophisticated weapons are planning to invade earth! So...we will need every cutting edge weapon that we can produce in hopes of winning the coming 'War of the Worlds'.
major hutton June 2nd, 2008 11:30 am
"True oil is important to the military but it is
very important to the whole world. So its control
is important for the good guys to control not the
bad guys."
Okay Major, I'm going to go out on a limb. My guess is that the "good guys" are: Big Oil, Dick Cheny, George Bush, Condi Rice, Rumsfeld, Ronald Reagan, Rove, Raytheon, General Electric, Antonin Scalia, Haliburton (which charges us tax payers $60 to poorly wash a load of clothes for a G.I. in Iraq and $6.oo for a sixpack of Pepsi), KBR, Blackwater and an assortment of mercenaries and other profit seekers.
The "bad guys": Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez, ACLU, MoveOn.org, Amnesty International, UN, all third parties, Common Dreams, the "liberal press", the Bill of Rights, Dennis Kucinich, all the Iraqis that don't like be brutalized, having there country destroyed, check points on every corner and the illegal US occupation in general, and everyone who opposes imperialism anywhere.
Am I right Major?
Depicable former Marine Sgt.
Yo Major Hutton:
In this country we have a thing called freedom of speech. It is guaranteed by this other thing called the Bill of Rights. Together they guarantee our rights not the Army. The Army doesn't give us our rights. If the Army gave us our freedoms then the Army could just take them away.
And all it took was the fear monger trumpeting of their "New Pearl Harbor".
Hey major hutton
My dad was a thirty-year man in the AF.
He dropped napalm on the traffic riding the Ho Chi Mihn trail.
Not once did he explain to me that what he was doing was for freedom or democracy.
In fact, when posted oversees in bases supported by compliant or dictatorial governments, not once did I observe any form of freedom as defined by the US.
I did see lot of poverty, corruption and the destruction of national culture via US pop entertainment.
I remember waiting for a bus in the Philippines, and a former peasant was playing tunes on his monochord (made up of joine carabu horns).
He played not one his own national folk tunes. Instead, he played the commerical tripe generated by the US music industry.
I then realized that the US contributed to not only world poverty, slow death (or quick death for those who resist US domination), and corruption, they also contribute to ethnocide.
So, the freedom we generously fight for is the freedom of our nation's plutocrats or Third world oligarchs and US-based corporations to feed off of us or those non-elite people in the impoverished world.
Our military is the mercenary arm of the economic elite in the US and in much of the world; it is the eye, arm and sword in ready to crush the politically active non-elite of the world.
So the Naderites want the Republicans to win again.... oh well... they deserve what they get.... Why is it Americans always think about themselves? It's always about what makes ME feel good instead of what is good for ALL of us? yes the Dems make me sick but the Repugs make me sicker and at least I can try and change things in the Dem Party IF I really bothered. Their supposed goals are not that far off from mine compared to the Repugs.
Not much I can add to the many toughtful posts concerning the article. As to Obama, I think that not only does he have to say and do certain things in order to stay in the running, but I believe that his true intentions of expanding our military are a realistic view of what Bush et al have done to the present military, which has weakened it not only with the "stop-lose" being endured by so many of our service members, but also cleaning up the ranks of our present military of those who would never have been permitted to see action if it weren't for the stupidity of Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, and others who wouldn't take the advice of experienced commanders such as Shizinsky (sp?) saying we would need at least 500,000 soldiers to secure Iraq after the invasion.
By cleaning up the ranks I mean all the christian solidiers infiltrating the armed forces, the skin heads who really see their military service as a training ground for whatever their future plans might be here in the USA, as well as the felons and mentally incompetent who are now serving in the armed forces.
That's going to be a lot of people and they will need to be shown the door and replacements found.
I also noticed many words and phrases used by George Orwell in his profetic book, 1984, such as being vaporized and the need to create a permanent enemy like Terrorism - which isn't even an enemy but an abstract idea, but it does the job of creating our own Eastasia and Ociana (sp?).
I've listenened to Obama and can tell that he is a thoughtful, well spoken, intelligent and caring person. I find it hard to believe that once in office he won't go back on many campaign pledges - just as every USA President I can think of has done once in office; so that's not going to be anything new.
I may very well be wrong, but these are my beliefs today: that Obama will bring about a slow yet positive change within our military; a military which is there to protect the USA from foriegn dangers and not there to protect Corporate Interests.
major hutton:
The Vietnam and Iraqi wars had absolutely nothing to do with our freedom. There's a responsibility that every service person has when he or she picks up a rifle, and it's not to an outlaw commander in chief---it's to the constitution. Maybe you should read it before you spout that FREEDOM crap. All those wars did was kill off millions of innocent people (who certainly weren't trying to curtail our freedoms), line the pockets of war profiteering corporations, and give us a whole generation of ex-soldiers who are permanently damaged by the blatant murder of innocent civilians...
Yo above,
Lets get real. It is NOT the military that wants
these high-tech weapons. Civilians do, for jobs.
Do keep in mind Balakirev, Lobo Gris & Siouxrose
& ALL that your current FREEDOM is GIVEN to you by
the very military you rag on. You should be thanking
a vet or active duty military folk for ALL you have
again, given by the Army. Take this force away and
you will be slaves unless your are part of the bad
guys & gals. If you took the time to find out you
would see again, it is not the military wants this
stuff but the civilian folks. Truth will set you
free ONLY if & when you want it to.
True oil is important to the military but it is
very important to the whole world. So its control
is important for the good guys to control not the
bad guys. Read a history book, gal. Hopefull CD
will not censor me & take me off this net just
because I tell the truth & not your party line.
chow,
George
your favoright retired army officer & combat vet.
There can be only one explanation for the bloated U.S. Defense Budget---an alien invasion from Outer Space. This has been treated at several levels in movies for decades. This subliminal suggestion has been in the American psyche since the faux invasion by Martians. (And, yes, there is Life on Mars, but they have gone Underground.)
There is a second explanation for the Defense Budget: control the resources that go into making weapons; control the institutions of distribution of those resources. Control.
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Mars isn't the only mythical entity that rules.
Mars rules is conjunction with Mammon and Neptune.
In other words, thalossacratic states are usually ruled by tripartite oligarchy: Mammon, Neptune and Mars.
These states first establish themselves as plutocratic republics and then procede, within the largest trading world (of its time, to emerge as its leading banker, producer and shopkeeper.
In decline, the last leading position they lose is finance...along with their currency functionaing as the international currency of world trade.
Eventually, when the gods and demons Mammon, Mars and Neptune leave these hegemonic ghosts, they finally find a new residence within that nation that prevails after a destructive world war.
Two Greco-Roman gods and one demon from Hebrew hell. The same cultural combo that started the Anglo US.
Ask any Native- or African-American historian.
LOBO GRIS: Your comment does not make room for a more use of the same industries turning from militarism into the ways and means to GREEN the American industrial landscape, infrastructure included. Imagine the MASSIVE jobs such a set of programs and initiatives would create. Unfortunately, as I often rant, our nation has fallen to the worship of MARS RULES and allows the military like a carnal beast to take the life blood from EVERY avenue of society.
CAELIDH: Excellent comparative point. Reminds me of the IRS being told to go after those making less than $15,000 who claim the "earned income credit," rather than the bigshots who off-shore their obscene profits and HIDE from tax obligations.
BALAKIREV: Great post, but history never quite replays in the same exact manner and this time the end of oil configures in stopping the gears from turning. I can't think of a greater version of Divine Order's delivery of poetic justice than for OIL to stop so the military and its countless weapons-bearing vehicles comes to a halt.
testing. peace.
The other free-trade empires: Venice, Amsterdam and the UK eventually were defeated by the enemy within: their over-sized "Arsenal(s)" (Venice's name for its military-corporate complex).
During the decline of each thalossacracy, the rights of citizens were increasingly delimited and the executive branch of government became more and more concerned with secrecy and spin.
Once a society's military-corporate complex hardens into a massive institutional bureaucracy, its almost impossible to reverse its cancerous growth.
Such institutional power is usually only reversed by military defeat, occupation and a forcible social restructuring that eleminates the social power of the military and its political and business allies.
Actually, if Bush wants apply a history lesson derived from WWII and its aftermath, he should focus on the destruction of Germany's and Japan's military-corporate complexes.
Instead of, absurdly, applying the post-war models of the defeated Axis powers on to Iraq, he might have better applied them to the US.
In other words, if we want a more democratic society, we must make massive government cutbacks to our military-corporate complex, vastly shrink its size and global presence and extirpate its presence in all of our other institutions.
That's what we did in post-war Germany and Japan. And what a reverse it was!
I work for a Non-Profit Mental Health Agency. The majority of our clients are Medicaid Clients. Every year we have Medicaid audits to make sure that all of our services to these clients are warranted etc...
We must have all the i's dotted and t's crossed. All casemanagment services MUST be properly documented. ALL time.. down to the minute MUST be properly accounted for. If you are driving a client to an appointment... did you REALLY talk regarding the clients therapy the entire 10 minutes?.. or was it really only 9?
You can do THIS service.. but not this service. If you don't spell something out.. you must pay back the time that you billed Medicaid for. Down to the last dollar!!!
Medicaid dollars are tight. Medicaid are on non-profit mental health agencies asses like glue. The attitude is that Mental Health services are "welfare".. uneeded. That the clients are just lazy... and stupid...
You have to PROVE to the State and Federal govt that your agency does deserve to be funded... that your services are needed.. AND that they show RESULTS. We spend hours and hours and hours entering data from surveys... we have to constantly measure outcomes to PROVE statistically to the public that OUR SERVICES are #1 Needed... and #2 that they work on getting our clients better.
If the stringency of the regulations that Mental Health Agencies were applied to the Military Industrial Complex... and they had to PROVE that their weapons system or bomber was really needed in the "war on terror"... we might be finding our coffers being filled again with repayment of billions of dollars.
But of course we KNOW that is never going to happen.
Peace
"Why is U.S. military spending at the highest point, in inflation-adjusted dollars, than at any time since the end of World War II?"
Because it lines the pockets of the rich and creates jobs. Without those jobs we would already be in the midst of the economic depression which is beginning.
Lobo Gris
When Ron Paul brought up the idea of cutting our defense spending (by removing our troops from the 136 countries we have them in), he was basically laughed out of the Republican debates. Obama or McCain equals the same old thing, not matter what image the portray. God, lets hope the foreign countries stop buying our debt--that seems to be the only thing that will stop us.
I have heard that the US has submarines in great numbers in the waters around the world. Does anyone have any figures? Ron.
Scroogle it hootowl and madcow. http://www.scroogle.org
As I remember Obama said that Blackwater would have to remain because of the overstretched nature of the US military position. His senior foreign policy adviser is more diplomatic above as would be expected.
Vote Nader 2008 you'll be glad you did.. and so will I...
http://www.votenader.org/issues/
Nader Issues:
Adopt single payer national health insurance.
Cut the huge, bloated, wasteful military budget.
No to nuclear power, solar energy first.
Aggressive crackdown on corporate crime
and corporate welfare.
Open up the Presidential debates .
Adopt a carbon pollution tax .
Reverse U.S. policy in the Middle East .
Impeach Bush/Cheney.
Repeal the Taft-Hartley anti-union law.
Adopt a Wall Street securities speculation tax .
Put an end to ballot access obstructionism .
Work to end corporate personhood.
.
p.s. Why is everyone so hyped on Nader when Cynthia McKinney has the whole Green Party behind her and voting for her is away to get future Federal matching funds for a progressive third party? Voting for Greens is at least forward looking for third parties, where as voting for Nader mainly just benefits Ralph.
@Madcow:
"A senior foreign policy adviser to leading Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama told me that if elected Obama will not "rule out" using private security companies like Blackwater Worldwide in Iraq. The adviser also said that Obama does not plan to sign on to legislation that seeks to ban the use of these forces in US war zones by January 2009, when a new President will be sworn in. Obama's campaign says that instead he will focus on bringing accountability to these forces while increasing funding for the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, the agency that employs Blackwater and other private security contractors."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeremy-scahill/obamas-blackwater-proble_b_89061.html
He wants to INCREASE funding for these sevices. If it's any consolation I was drinking the Obama koolaid for a while too, now I'm starting to wake up.
See also for more on Obama's Wall St. ties:
http://www.counterpunch.org/martens05052008.html
p.s. I found the first link by typing Obama Blackwater into google. Remember google is your friend...
Radical Confucian and madcap are not correct. The tired old justification to continue to perpetrate the myth that the system as it stands can become somehow transformed by voting for Obama and the Democrats is so wrong. Nader is like a voice in the wilderness because of such reasoning. Who are you to state that those who chose to vote for Nader have wasted their vote? Did the people who voted Bush waste their vote or did some of them? And Nader speaks of real change. Just because the system as it is set up is so powerful doesn't mean that it should be supported unless you wish to support it and then work for Obama or McCain to change it? How naive can people get from repeated evidence that the Two Party System in the USA has entirely failed to the dreadful detriment of the citizens of many countries abroad and to the detriment of the USA for facilitating the military monster. And there is no time to waste, time is getting rapidly shorter before this most terrifying military might is unleashed on others too. Soon!
Hank Fur, I don't think Obama's evil. He has a lot of good progressive ideas out there. I think we have to deal with the system we're stuck with. Sure, he's no Nader, but he's the best we can do now given the two party system. I wish we could change things through protesting, but look what it got us in Iraq. You must believe that 8 years of Al Gore would have been better than the Bush disaster we've just seen. I don't think we can afford to do the same thing with McCain.
Or better ..Call him and see if he's changed his mind ..
Call up National Public Radio..i know I heard him say it
citizenblog June 1st, 2008 9:18 pm
"Public Radio. He said it."
come on man, anyone could say someone said something on the radio.... where's the proof
Awaken---you're right, Obama is no Nader---I wish he was and still had the chance he has of getting elected.
madcow -
Yes, it's true, among other sordid Obama positions.
See New York Times best seller,"Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army," by Jememy Scahill, who can be reached at jeremy@democracynow.org
Hillary has suggested that she may want to remove Blackwater mercenaries from Iraq. interesting.
We have to remember, we can fall for the lessor of two evils voting strategy, but the major candidates will not be looking out for our interests (duh!) but rather the interests of corporations. We all know that, right?
In order to keep the masses in their fold, an enormous bandwagon of "Hope," and of "Dreams for a better world," has been manufactured .... just for us. When really, folks, if you look at all closely, you'll see, there aren't substantial differences among any of the two-party offerings and there never will be until progressive voters refuse to go along.
Arundhati Roy's advise is to set up our own game and force them to play by our rules, where we have the power, not them. The two-party, lessor of two evils game ultimately will be our destruction. We need to put on pressure outside of the status quo parameters, outside of their control: Masses in the streets, blocking business as usual. Let's get creative.
GO RALPH NADER! Straight Ahead!
I do not have a problem with spending. I have a problem with borrowing and taxing to spend it.
The great hoax of the 20th century is that governments must borrow money from a private banking monopoly by printing up bonds that are purchased by the banks with money that THEY create out of thin air, and then for every dollar the government can spend, the system can then create 10 times more money by issuing loans which erans them trillions in interest. LOL.
Now we have China loaning us money with dollars that were created as above. The Fed prefers CDO's now since we make them return the interest on our bonds, no fun for them, so they take the garbage off the Fed shareholders balance sheets and gives them real money that they create out of thin air. So where does the Chinese government get the money to loan us?
Of course, you say, we sent it to buy the exports of their manufacturers. But the manufacturers are not the government, and they can not use these dollars to pay their taxes or workers salaries, so they need to exchange the USD for RMB with their governments bank. So China, prints up their RMB, money created out of thin air to buy the USD from their factories. In other words, we let China print up RMB to buy USD and loan the USD to us, and we pay them interest, when our government could be printing up their own money, debt free, like Lincoln did, and building infrastructure, paying for health care, even paying for our military.
If people only knew the truth they would be amazed and then outraged. But the truth is so far beyond what they have been taught to believe, I might as well talk about the aliens and UFO's you will be seeing soon (according to one plan on the table to Globalize us).
Anyways, read Ellen Browns Web of Debt, then perhaps you will be able to see some of the truth.
I sympathize with madcow about a candidate losing by a landslide if he speaks out against the MIC. However, Obama is no Nader. Nader has consistently spoken out against the military monster, along with other familiar destructive institution. Obama has no similar track record and cannot be relied upon for such views, especially in light of what he has already said. The problem with the lying to get elected then doing the right thing strategy is that it is impossible to know just where the lie really lies.
Had Gore become president, I don't think Lieberman would have had much influence. I am still puzzled as to why Gore chose him.
Public Radio. He said it.
to citizenblog. where did you hear that?
To Madcow. Unfortunately Barack thinks Blackwater should stay in Iraq.
Although peace coup is correct, there is more to it.
The U.S. economy relies on military spending.
Not only to employ its citizens but also to ensure its global economic hegemony.
But as Bush debases the dollar others, such as the oil producing states, will refuse to accept the U.S. dollar for their goods. This will lead to major dislocations in political and economic alliances.
Madcow is right on the money. We cannot be irresposible with our vote come november. There are enough brainwashed fools in our country to make it a close election between McCain and Obama. We must be pragmatic and hope for piecemeal change rather than overnight revolution. To dismantle the MIC will take a while, but Obama could (he is our best hope now) set us in the right direction. I support Nader's right to run and I wish we could get a third party into the mix, but as things stand these are just not live options.
Barak, please spend less on war machines.
I'd address the other candidates too if they showed signs of listening. No, you're the only one who MIGHT listen.
Ask Boris Yeltsin why.
tailcap,
I'm aware of his plans to add near 100,000 more troops. My point is that he's got to say these things to get elected in this environment...and that's not all he says either. He wants to get back to the idea of America being a force for good in the world, by talking with "enemies", closing down Guantanamo, stopping torture and rendition, and ending lawless military contractors.
So, what if he were to add 100,000 more troops, but at the same time ended Blackwater. Would not that be a net gain?
And he always talks about how much we spend over in Iraq, and what we could do with that money back here at home...
Anyway, we won't know until he gets in there, and I admit I could be misplacing my hopes here, but he's still the best hope we have. He has a good chance of beating McCain and will certainly be better than him. Nader is a wasted vote, and if I thought he had a chance, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat, but he doesn't...
ZOYA posed the reasonable premise, "The real enemy is climate change. If FDR could get the auto manufacturers to shift into making tanks and bombers overnight, why can't GWB get the military-industrial complex to shift into making wind turbines and solar panels?"
If a leader was ONLY about profit and had the all too human habit of falling into a love of that absolute power that corrupts absolutely, that might answer your question. But these are strange times and while it would appear to qualify as fiction that the vast majority of Bush supporters also happen to believe in a little Biblical twist of interpretation known as END TIMES, the darkest aspect is that this ominous force we call evil seems to have subducted the very ones who call on the prince of peace while using unspeakable force and impossibly heinous weapons to willfully destroy their darker-skinned brothers and sisters. I think it qualifies as what I tend to call it: the anti-Christ: specifically the world's most advanced military in any phase of history that identifies itself (much of it, specifically the air force) with "Christ"ianity, while PLOTTING the care-less death of potentially a million AND counting.
UBREW: Seems all the things you cite for the future are in evidence NOW.
Mr. Scheer states, " defense spending has become enshrined in our political system as a totem to be worshiped." PRECISELY. And why? Repeat after me, "MARS RULES!" It sure is obscene, and ironically, it's causing the nation to implode from within. Strength that's projected ONLY in terms of arms and trade at the point of a bayonet is not the type of lasting quality, virtue or sustainability.
Lets face it-to win the election in this country you have to be talking about feeding the war machine-if you didn't you would get knocked off before being sworn in-lets hope that once in office Obama will start the ball rolling to re-build the country's infrastructure.
Here's another:
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701faessay86401-p10/barack-obama/renewing-american-leadership.html
Barak Obama:
To renew American leadership in the world, we must immediately begin working to revitalize our military. A strong military is, more than anything, necessary to sustain peace. Unfortunately, the U.S. Army and the Marine Corps, according to our military leaders, are facing a crisis. The Pentagon cannot certify a single army unit within the United States as fully ready to respond in the event of a new crisis or emergency beyond Iraq; 88 percent of the National Guard is not ready to deploy overseas.
We must use this moment both to rebuild our military and to prepare it for the missions of the future. We must retain the capacity to swiftly defeat any conventional threat to our country and our vital interests. But we must also become better prepared to put boots on the ground in order to take on foes that fight asymmetrical and highly adaptive campaigns on a global scale.
How do you rebuild without spending more money madcow?
formernadervoter June 1st, 2008 1:13 pm
"Obama is going to fight for a major increase in defense spending,,,"
madcow June 1st, 2008 4:06 pm
"There's no way you could know that—He's never said anything like that"
Yes he has, you just don't know about it. Obama has called for 100,000 more troops. Here's one quote and a link:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/489/
"If we're going to catch (Osama) bin Laden, or most importantly, break down al-Qaida ... we've got to have the capacity to put more troops in Afghanistan ... both our troops and NATO troops.- Barak Obama
More troops means more money.
Let us not overlook the fact that, when it comes to supporting US imperial ambitions, putting together and sustaining a "coalition of the willing" also entails some costs:
The tale of massive fraud and embezzlement of millions of dollars by the US military in its operations in Iraq continues. Testifying before the US Congress Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on 22 May, Mary Ugone, deputy inspector general of accounts in the Pentagon said that an audit of $8.2 billion spending related to the Iraq war showed that $7.8 billion had been improperly spent.
In her testimony, Ugone also revealed that $135 million were given to forces from three countries UK, South Korea and Poland to facilitate their participation in the war. This is the first time that the US has officially admitted paying its allies in the so-called Coalition of the Willing that invaded Iraq in March 2003. [Emphasis added.]
Admittedly that's peanuts in comparison to most other costs, but it does raise some questions regarding the true "willingness" versus expediency of various US alliances.
formernadervoter June 1st, 2008 1:13 pm
"Obama is going to fight for a major increase in defense spending.
That is fricking nuts.
Obama=McCain…McBama
Time to return to Nader. I never should have left."
There's no way you could know that---He's never said anything like that, and Nader will never get elected---So go ahead and waste your vote if you want.
The only problem I have with Mr. Sheer's article is that he thinks that the Democratic nominee should speak out against the military-industrial-complex (m-i-c). If the nominee speaks out now in this present climate of fear, he or she will lose in a landslide. We must dismantle the m-i-c slowly and smartly. Education and a paradigm shift are needed to placate the reactionary forces in America that hold sway. It wont happen over night with a Nader or Kucinich presidency.... It would be nice if we lived in that kind of world, but we don't. It's taken over half a century for this problem to take root. My hope is that Obama realizes this fact and will work to make things better. That being said, he's a politician and a damn good one and he's dealing with an electorate that has been brain-washed to believe in a world that is full of enemies out to destroy our American way of life...
Obama has said nothing yet to make me believe he will blindly continue to feed the m-i-c. He has dropped a few hint here and there that lead me to believe he may work to dismantle it...
Clinton and other DLC democrats are just as bad as the republicans in their jingoistic support for new weapons and imagined threats. Dean and progressive Democrats like Obama are working within a broken system to change it.
peace_coup writes (1:04 pm), "It is the goal of the Republicans to spend as much money as possible to put the United States into massive debt. This huge debt gives Republicans a reason to cut as many social programs as possible while weakening democracy, oversight, and regulation..."
Yes, but you forgot to add that "It is the goal of the Democrats to go along with absolutely anything the Republicans do, while never offering serious resistance to it, holding Republicans accountable for it, or exposing the R's fundamental intentions to the public. It is the goal of the Democrats to offer fake opposition to Republican programs, by criticizing only the programs' manner of execution, rather than exposing the criminality of the programs' overall motivation & goals."
Some of the viable solutions:
direct democracy minus "representatives"
skyrise wind turbines
tracked hovering electromagnetic propelled transport
automated raised field agriculture
vertical tube hydro turbines at sea
massive water purification plants at sea
seaweed nutrition
elimination of cash as a means of transaction in lieu of calorie valuation of human toil and products of human labor
The main hindrance to solving humanities problems:
Bowing to financial dominance. Whether it takes the form of wasting time collecting cash for multibillionaires as cashiers at walmart, or building weapons to serve the financial dominants military dominance survival requirement, people are doing MOST of what they do these days, for cash, not based on principle, further, rarely considered are the results of our daily activities.
"Why, without a sophisticated military opponent in sight, is the United States spending trillions of dollars on the development of high-tech weapons systems..."
Because robot murder facility is pricey and you can't get people to kill everyone. Which is the aim of the financial dominant. Apart from the financial dominant of course, they sure don't want to kill themselves (it's an ouh scary afterlife for mass murderers). I'm guessing there's 2 of them who know the whole story of their treachery and they're the only people who they're trying to ensure survival for.
They'll tolerate what sheeple decide to bow down of course. If it's not more convenient to evaporate them. But they know in times as what's approaching not many are so easily laid to so precocious a subservience.
The answer is simple - it's called Greedism, defined as the insatiable pursuit of money no matter how many fellow humans are hurt or killed in the process.
How can you tell Greedism is, indeed, a real and severe mental illness? Here's an easy test:
Child care or more bombs?
Health care for all or more bombs?
Clean air, water, food or more bombs?
Safe, solid infrastructures or more bombs?
Disaster prep or more bombs?
Alternative energy sources or more bombs?
Only mentally deranged sufferers of Greedism would choose more bombs, especially when "we" already have enough to wipe out all life on Earth 10x over. It's a sickness, plain and simple.
What fun it was to see this on the front page of the LA Times' opinion section.
Now, if it could only be on the front page of the "NEWS" section!
What makes this even worse is that most Americans are seeing their standard of living plummet as increases in energy, food and medical costs are climbing through the roof and simple steps that would go a long way to improve America's security like securing America's borders and ending our wars for empire are ignored.
Robert Sheer is a brilliant analyst of the current scene, and I wish he were read by the million.
But to claim that China "is not even a regional power" is several bridges too far.
How much of the war budget ends up in Bush Cheney Clinton pockets?
Obama is going to fight for a major increase in defense spending.
That is fricking nuts.
Obama=McCain...McBama
Time to return to Nader. I never should have left.
"...the real goal here was to find an enemy — any enemy — that would justify spending U.S. tax dollars on weapons produced in his home state."
The real enemy is climate change. If FDR could get the auto manufacturers to shift into making tanks and bombers overnight, why can't GWB get the military-industrial complex to shift into making wind turbines and solar panels?
ubrew12 June 1st, 2008 12:42 pm -- "The U.S. defense budget is about ruling the world."
Undoubtedly true, but not excluding doemestic rule. Never forget either that the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 has, to all intents and purposes, been nullified. Frankly, I don't know why the establishment is so fearful the U.S. proletariat. I really don't think they have much to worry about, but they seem to think they need to take precaustions with all kinds of "internal security" measures for their own protection.
sadly, the war in a IRAQ is a for-profit venture...
It is the goal of the Republicans to spend as much money as possible to put the United States into massive debt. This huge debt gives Republicans a reason to cut as many social programs as possible while weakening democracy, oversight, and regulation.
What better way to spend this nation into debt than to enrich your crony friends in the military industrial complex while also building a military capable of taking whatever we want from whomever we want?
The United States is like a fire breathing dog chasing its own tail as fast as it can and becoming so ecstatic in the process that it sets its tail alight and burns to death.
Had Al Gore taken office with Lieberman as his VP we could now be facing a Presidential election between John "Two Time War Criminal" McCain and Joe "Two Nuclear Submarines a Year" Lieberman
The U.S. defense budget is about ruling the world.
Not for America, but for the corporate entities that have usurped her (first order of business: control of MidEast oil supplies). The same defense spending that opens the world to their global capitalism creates the debt that is killing the U.S. dollar. This is of little consequence to the corporations, since these corporate entities no longer deal exclusively in dollars, but increasingly in any currency but. But its turning the average American wage earner into a third world citizen, since Americans can only get paid in dollars.
I actually welcome global trade and capitalism, and a military funded to help keep it safe and in peace. But autonomy corrupts, and absolute autonomy corrupts absolutely. These corporations cannot help but eventually misuse this new-found U.S. military power; they may even mis-use it against ordinary Americans. In Iraq, they may already HAVE. Americans need to join with citizens of other countries and work out a way that this military-corporated can be controlled to benefit ordinary folks, and NOT just the 'cream' of the global milk jug. That doesn't necessarily mean one-world government. But it does mean people talking to each other to make sure the 'globe-trotting' corporate crowd doesn't play them off against each other, using the U.S. military as an enabler.
If your Congress were to do its job (again!) and investigate the affairs of General Dynamics as it did 20 years ago, whose dog will it find that the US Taxpayer has been paying to board this time? The Chairman's - again? Or Mr. Lieberman's? Or both?
(Assuming, that is, Mr. Lieberman owns a dog)
Truly Disgusting!
A pity that all this money is not invested in the CITIZENS of the USA: education, healthcare, renewable energy, ecologically innovative small business, etc.
When will this pseudo empire learn that the real strength and security of a nation lies in its true and shared prosperity---and not the illusory type of "free market" globalization of the Wall Street-MIC-Media-Pharma-Oil complex nor the out of bounds overconsuming frenzy of a lost citizenry? When will it ever learn that a strong dollar and a robustly sound economy is the ultimate best defense? When will it ever learn that 200 million small enterprises are stronger than a bullying bunch of monopolies and cartels? When will it learn that growth at al cost is just another form of cancer?
"peace coup June 1st, 2008 1:04 pm" got it right.
By promoting FEAR and glorifying Militarism, the Corporate-Defense-Congressperson triad benefits economically. Increasing pressure will be put on Fed-State social programs. The middle class (our kids and gradkids) gets screwed out of their programs and they will be stuck with the $Trillion bill while they are screwed. Great system. US is addicted to militarism in the worst way. Quit your Defense contractor jobs! Simplify your standard of living. Quit paying half your Fed taxes.
APOLOGIZE NOW to your kids for the immoral mess we have created for them. Of course our kids will be lucky to have an Earth that sustains their lives, let alone their lifestyle. We have allowed THEM to turn the US into a Third-World Country. Of course there is a modicum of justice (and irony) in that.
"Christian Nation?" You betcha....
Peace Out!