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After Bobby Kennedy (There Was Barack Obama)
In this season of 1968 nostalgia, one anniversary illuminates today. It is the rise and fall of Robert Kennedy, who would have been elected president of the United States had he not been assassinated in June 1968. Having travelled with Kennedy up to the moment of his shooting at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles on 5 June, I heard The Speech many times. He would "return government to the people" and bestow "dignity and justice" on the oppressed. "As Bernard Shaw once said," he would say, "'Most men look at things as they are and wonder why. I dream of things that never were and ask: Why not?'" That was the signal to run back to the bus. It was fun until a hail of bullets passed over our shoulders.
Kennedy's campaign is a model for Barack Obama. Like Obama, he was a senator with no achievements to his name. Like Obama, he raised the expectations of young people and minorities. Like Obama, he promised to end an unpopular war, not because he opposed the war's conquest of other people's land and resources, but because it was "unwinnable".
Should Obama beat John McCain to the White House in November, it will be liberalism's last fling. In the United States and Britain, liberalism as a war-making, divisive ideology is once again being used to destroy liberalism as a reality. A great many people understand this, as the hatred of Blair and new Labour attest, but many are disoriented and eager for "leadership" and basic social democracy. In the US, where unrelenting propaganda about American democratic uniqueness disguises a corporate system based on extremes of wealth and privilege, liberalism as expressed through the Democratic Party has played a crucial, compliant role.
In 1968, Robert Kennedy sought to rescue the party and his own ambitions from the threat of real change that came from an alliance of the civil rights campaign and the anti-war movement then commanding the streets of the main cities, and which Martin Luther King had drawn together until he was assassinated in April that year. Kennedy had supported the war in Vietnam and continued to support it in private, but this was skilfully suppressed as he competed against the maverick Eugene McCarthy, whose surprise win in the New Hampshire primary on an anti-war ticket had forced President Lyndon Johnson to abandon the idea of another term. Using the memory of his martyred brother, Kennedy assiduously exploited the electoral power of delusion among people hungry for politics that represented them, not the rich.
"These people love you," I said to him as we left Calexico, California, where the immigrant population lived in abject poverty and people came like a great wave and swept him out of his car, his hands fastened to their lips.
"Yes, yes, sure they love me," he replied. "I love them!" I asked him how exactly he would lift them out of poverty: just what was his political philosophy? "Philosophy? Well, it's based on a faith in this country and I believe that many Americans have lost this faith and I want to give it back to them, because we are the last and the best hope of the world, as Thomas Jefferson said."
"That's what you say in your speech. Surely the question is: How?"
"How . . . by charting a new direction for America."
The vacuities are familiar. Obama is his echo. Like Kennedy, Obama may well "chart a new direction for America" in specious, media-honed language, but in reality he will secure, like every president, the best damned democracy money can buy.
Embarrassing Truth As their contest for the White House draws closer, watch how, regardless of the inevitable personal smears, Obama and McCain draw nearer to each other. They already concur on America's divine right to control all before it. "We lead the world in battling immediate evils and promoting the ultimate good," said Obama. "We must lead by building a 21st-century military . . . to advance the security of all people [emphasis added]." McCain agrees. Obama says in pursuing "terrorists" he would attack Pakistan. McCain wouldn't quarrel.
Both candidates have paid ritual obeisance to the regime in Tel Aviv, unquestioning support for which defines all presidential ambition. In opposing a UN Security Council resolution implying criticism of Israel's starvation of the people of Gaza, Obama was ahead of both McCain and Hillary Clinton. In January, pressured by the Israel lobby, he massaged a statement that "nobody has suffered more than the Palestinian people" to now read: "Nobody has suffered more than the Palestinian people from the failure of the Palestinian leadership to recognise Israel [emphasis added]." Such is his concern for the victims of the longest, illegal military occupation of modern times. Like all the candidates, Obama has furthered Israeli/Bush fictions about Iran, whose regime, he says absurdly, "is a threat to all of us".
On the war in Iraq, Obama the dove and McCain the hawk are almost united. McCain now says he wants US troops to leave in five years (instead of "100 years", his earlier option). Obama has now "reserved the right" to change his pledge to get troops out next year. "I will listen to our commanders on the ground," he now says, echoing Bush. His adviser on Iraq, Colin Kahl, says the US should maintain up to 80,000 troops in Iraq until 2010. Like McCain, Obama has voted repeatedly in the Senate to support Bush's demands for funding of the occupation of Iraq; and he has called for more troops to be sent to Afghanistan. His senior advisers embrace McCain's proposal for an aggressive "league of democracies", led by the United States, to circumvent the United Nations.
Amusingly, both have denounced their "preachers" for speaking out. Whereas McCain's man of God praised Hitler, in the fashion of lunatic white holy-rollers, Obama's man, Jeremiah Wright, spoke an embarrassing truth. He said that the attacks of 11 September 2001 had taken place as a consequence of the violence of US power across the world. The media demanded that Obama disown Wright and swear an oath of loyalty to the Bush lie that "terrorists attacked America because they hate our freedoms". So he did. The conflict in the Middle East, said Obama, was rooted not "primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel", but in "the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam". Journalists applauded. Islamophobia is a liberal speciality.
The American media love both Obama and McCain. Reminiscent of mating calls by Guardian writers to Blair more than a decade ago, Jann Wenner, founder of the liberal Rolling Stone, wrote: "There is a sense of dignity, even majesty, about him, and underneath that ease lies a resolute discipline . . . Like Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama challenges America to rise up, to do what so many of us long to do: to summon 'the better angels of our nature'." At the liberal New Republic, Charles Lane confessed: "I know it shouldn't be happening, but it is. I'm falling for John McCain." His colleague Michael Lewis had gone further. His feelings for McCain, he wrote, were like "the war that must occur inside a 14-year-old boy who discovers he is more sexually attracted to boys than to girls".
The objects of these uncontrollable passions are as one in their support for America's true deity, its corporate oligarchs. Despite claiming that his campaign wealth comes from small individual donors, Obama is backed by the biggest Wall Street firms: Goldman Sachs, UBS AG, Lehman Brothers, J P Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Credit Suisse, as well as the huge hedge fund Citadel Investment Group. "Seven of the Obama campaign's top 14 donors," wrote the investigator Pam Martens, "consisted of officers and employees of the same Wall Street firms charged time and again with looting the public and newly implicated in originating and/or bundling fraudulently made mortgages." A report by United for a Fair Economy, a non-profit group, estimates the total loss to poor Americans of colour who took out sub-prime loans as being between $164bn and $213bn: the greatest loss of wealth ever recorded for people of colour in the United States. "Washington lobbyists haven't funded my campaign," said Obama in January, "they won't run my White House and they will not drown out the voices of working Americans when I am president." According to files held by the Centre for Responsive Politics, the top five contributors to the Obama campaign are registered corporate lobbyists.
What is Obama's attraction to big business? Precisely the same as Robert Kennedy's. By offering a "new", young and apparently progressive face of the Democratic Party - with the bonus of being a member of the black elite - he can blunt and divert real opposition. That was Colin Powell's role as Bush's secretary of state. An Obama victory will bring intense pressure on the US anti-war and social justice movements to accept a Democratic administration for all its faults. If that happens, domestic resistance to rapacious America will fall silent.
Piracies and dangers America's war on Iran has already begun. In December, Bush secretly authorised support for two guerrilla armies inside Iran, one of which, the military arm of Mujahedin-e Khalq, is described by the state department as terrorist. The US is also engaged in attacks or subversion against Somalia, Lebanon, Syria, Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, Bolivia and Venezuela. A new military command, Africom, is being set up to fight proxy wars for control of Africa's oil and other riches. With US missiles soon to be stationed provocatively on Russia's borders, the Cold War is back. None of these piracies and dangers has raised a whisper in the presidential campaign, not least from its great liberal hope.
Moreover, none of the candidates represents so-called mainstream America. In poll after poll, voters make clear that they want the normal decencies of jobs, proper housing and health care. They want their troops out of Iraq and the Israelis to live in peace with their Palestinian neighbours. This is a remarkable testimony, given the daily brainwashing of ordinary Americans in almost everything they watch and read.
On this side of the Atlantic, a deeply cynical electorate watches British liberalism's equivalent last fling. Most of the "philosophy" of new Labour was borrowed wholesale from the US. Bill Clinton and Tony Blair were interchangeable. Both were hostile to traditionalists in their parties who might question the corporate-speak of their class-based economic policies and their relish for colonial conquests. Now the British find themselves spectators to the rise of new Tory, distinguishable from Blair's new Labour only in the personality of its leader, a former corporate public relations man who presents himself as Tonier than thou. We all deserve better.
© 2008 The New Statesman
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Show All"Naderite Progressives must find a way to work WITHIN the Dem Party, or continue to be the cause of its failure to Repubs election AFTER election."
How are Naderite Progressives going to do that? Should they become more like the Repubs?
Maybe the cause of the Dem Party's failure to Repubs election AFTER election is WITHIN the Dem Party. Hey, it's something to think about, isn't it?
It seems to me the misunderstanding here is the confusion of voting and working. Voting for Democrats isn't really working within the party, is it? Perhaps Naderites should register as Democrats, become activists in pary meetings, move the platform to the left, and oust the Blue Dogs and the DLC.
Don't vote for conservative Democrats; run for office as progressive Democrats?
Good to hear honest reporting about RFK. Kennedy type liberalism has done the US a lot of damage and it needs to be discredited.
But the remarks on Israel are bizarre, and, as always, blatantly anti-Semitic (deny it all you want). Israel isn't responsible for the war there, and they certainly aren't responsible for 'starving' Palestinians in Gaza. The Gazans elected a party that advocated war and now they have the war they chose. When and if they are ready to end it all they have to do is to recognize Israel, the way the rest of the world did long ago, and cease their attempts to steal Jewish land. There's absolutely nothing illegal about Israel's attempts to defend themselves. When people are attacked, as the Israelis have been repeatedly over the last 100 years, they have the right to wage war to defend themselves. The Arabs attacked Israel, not the other way around (as the historical record conclusively demonstrates), and the war will continue until they come to their senses.
Thanks for all the information. Though I'm more confused now.
"Israel does not allow supplies to enter from Egypt."
How exactly does Isreal force Egypt to not allow supplies or leaving or entering Gaza?
"1948: Negotiations were still ongoing between the UN, The Palestinains, represented in part by the various Arab states, and The peoples advocating an independent Israel."
Now this is an historical fact. The United Nations voted and passed the resolution establishing the state of Isreal. No ongoing negotiations then.
The Arab nations immediately attacked.
I don't know whos right or wrong to tell the truth, I really need to look at this. But one thing I'm sure of. If someone is firing rockets into my city, I'm going to shoot back. So I am sure who's right here.
Two years ago when all this election nonsense started rolling out I saw a picture of HRC & BHO together and I was struck by the irony. In an unrepentant genocidal Aryan slave empire, the descendant of a gender slave and the descendant of racialized slavery vie against each other for the post of Head Overseer on Master's Slave Plantation. How Democratic of MAster. How trusting. And of course, they have earned his trust with their deeds.
HRC needed only to abandon her humanity. BHO needed only to pledge allegiance to Master and the White Race (not to those "angry black people"). That was the easy part.
The hard part will be when the "NEW" Head Overseer (whoever that is) says we can no longer afford any health care, medicare, social security, or a middle class. And they will be sooooo sooooorrrreee to have to tell. BUT they will have the troops in the streets when the announcement comes. Along with the closing of the banks. MASTER WANTS EVERYTHING.
Do not doubt it. Richfilth animals lack the gene for self-restraint.
Peace.
Naderite Progressives must find a way to work WITHIN the Dem Party, or continue to be the cause of its failure to Repubs election AFTER election.
How are Naderite Progressives going to do that? Should they become more like the Repubs?
Maybe the cause of the Dem Party's failure to Repubs election AFTER election is WITHIN the Dem Party. Hey, it's something to think about, isn't it?
Get off it, mikep. You only spout lying Zionist propaganda. I for one, am tired of hearing the same mistruths whined over and over.
Please look at this piece with less biased eyes and don't obfuscate the message. The piece IS NOT about Israel. It IS about the future(what's left) of United States.
John is just telling us the awful truth that many on these pages have been warning about - that the choice of candidates remaining in the race are all controlled by the same paymasters:
Former Bush donors now giving to Obama
By Greg Gordon | McClatchy Newspapers
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/39067.html
This is the same pattern that occurred in 2004 - Bush money backed Kerry.
Our corporate controllers of the economy are making too much money from the troubles now besetting us to let go.
John Pilger is brilliant ... again.
I always love it when the people shooting the bullets, dropping the bombs, firing the missiles, stopping the food at checkpoints ..... says its all the victims fault.
Yes, you see the same crap out of the US government. Don't blame us, we were forced to kill those innocent civilians.
And as always, if you dig down deep enough the reason why these people just had to be murdered was that they dared to actually think for themselves and did something that the forces of evil didn't want.
Don't tell me about what happened a 100 years ago. When someone pulls the trigger on a gun, they are responsible for the death and the destruction that results. The killers will always try to obfuscate that, they'll always try to hide their responsibility behind a bunch of bs. But, there's now doubt that the person who pulls the trigger is responsible.
Have you ever considered the possibility that "evil" is good? It sure seems the only realistic, effective options we have are evil to one large degree or another, and "good" is clearly dependent on it. Corruption thrives for a reason, as do insanity and stupidity.
Hail Satan?
...and Mr Green http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/25/9183/ your reply to Mr Pilger? Make it snappy!
Pam Martens' excellent piece on Obama's money can be found here ...
http://www.counterpunch.org/martens05062008.html
I agree with most of John Pilger's article, except the last sentence:
"We all deserve better."
Maybe a few of us deserve better... Soldiers risking their lives for a lie in Iraq, for example.
But most of us greedy little consumers don't even deserve the government we have, much less anything better.
Take a look at the audience of American Idol...
The right President for those absurd schlubs would be Idi Amin.
Election, Incorporated. The sequel.
"An Obama victory will bring intense pressure on the US anti-war and social justice movements to accept a Democratic administration for all its faults. If that happens, domestic resistance to rapacious America will fall silent."
Holier truth than this has never been uttered in these forums. Obama may be a tad better than Hillary and McCain but its marginal at best.
As for Jacob Freeze -- "Soldiers risking their lives for a lie in Iraq," ...
Get a grip .. these soldier mo__f__kers volunteered to commit murder .. they dont deserve any better. We are supposed to feel sorry for these scumbags as they slaughter innocent Iraqis and Afghans. Are they really that brain-dead or morally bankrupt that they cannot disseminate this war for what it is ?
Kennedy did a nice hit job for corporate america when he stifled the teamsters union then Reagan finished them off.
Were they both on the same team ?
Where is Obama on Unions ?
Edwards is the guy the fascists don't want.
"We all deserve better", Pilger says, but declines to offer YOU even one word of concrete suggestion of how you're going to actually GET anything better, ever. It's all about slamming RFK and Obama as though this smarty-pants author could have waved a wand and elected Naderites for you anytime in Nader's last four or five (futile) attempts.
The reality is that a majority of Americans are as dumb as a concrete block on both economics and politics, and a campaign of platitudes fueled by contributions from people who actually have enough money to contribute is the campaign that wins. (How the heck do you think you got Bush twice?)
Without Obama or Clinton (preferably teamed even though she's half nuts), you get McCain by default, and you get him picking your judges and poised to veto every initiative that does not suit corporations for several years.
Stop buying into this self-serving crap that is dished up by "progressives" who enable everything except "progress".
Democrats are what you have to work with. They are ALL you have to work with.
John says:
"An Obama victory will bring intense pressure on the US anti-war and social justice movements to accept a Democratic administration for all its faults. If that happens, domestic resistance to rapacious America will fall silent."
I don't think so, We here on Common Dreams will not fall silent and if the Economy continues to go south and new wars break out, the pressure from all sides will increase on Obama for giving America and the world false Hope.
We cannot hope to form an effective and unified 3rd force in America before this Election, but if Obama double crosses the people like is being predicted, it will be our first opportunity.... why be Gloomy?
This is the chance we have all been waiting for, a force for us! Then we will see if the 3rd parties, the Greens and Nader can join together with those Dems and Repubs all who want real change and peaceful Revolution.
According to the prophecy
The election is a reality game show for the international elite. It's produced out of the White House and brought to you like everything else in America, by Hollywood. and sponsored by Wall Street. Technical adviser the Pentagon. And of course it will be rigged and promoted into bringing the American agenda forward in a positive light. And no one gets into the game that would pose a threat to the status quo. As long as Obama stays mainstream he has a good chance of winning. Of course nothing will change, but that's what America is all about.
Hoa binh
@Jim Glover
"According to the prophecy."
Translation some wild eyed guy walking around with a sandwich board said it, therefor it must be true.
Whatever happened to the idea that we used to diagnose people hearing voices as paranoid schizophrenic? Now days I swear there is a competition between left and right as to who can come up with the most improbable, ungrounded fantasy.
Remember boys and girls, Nazis are all you have to work with, remember to back the Ernest Roheme SA "good Nazis" and not the Hitler Gobbels SS bad Nazis. Together we can all win behind the lesser evil! This message has been brought to you by the ministry of truth.
Daniel David May 31st, 2008 2:23 pm -- "A campaign of platitudes fueled by contributions from people who actually have enough money to contribute is the campaign that wins. [...] Democrats are what you have to work with. They are ALL you have to work with."
Does anyone wonder why the peoples of other nations are willing put their lives on the line in order to oppose USA Incorporated's exportation by force of its system of "freedom and democracy"? Maybe the "terrorists" really do hate your freedom. How about you?
DanielDavid--"The reality is that a majority of Americans are as dumb as a concrete block on both economics and politics"
Wow ! talk about being elitist ... and you Daniel David, the all knowing wise sage in all your infinite wisdom, after making that ridiculous claim, continue to push us to vote Democrat ! How deeply deluded are you really ?
If power was not concentrated on top (Corporate Oligarchy, Republicans, Democrats, Media) and if Media did its job of educating the public we wouldnt have to choose between two equally hated alternatives.
You and your fellow democrat sleaze bags are clearly going to win the next election and continue to maintain the status quo while die-hard, marginalized progressives will continue to oppose your shit-for-brains-but-clever democratrepublicans.
mrraven500 ,
According to the prophecy is a joke that apparently you don't get but if it makes you imply I am hearing voices that is cool with me .
The above article is full of predictions and most posts here are predictions of Doom. If you can't agree with my prediction, why not just give us yours if you have one and insult anyone who you don't agree with if you want since nobody can stop you. It is your choice to choose how you express yourself.
I haven't yet read the article, so can't comment on what John Pilger says, but wonder if Robert Kennedy would've had people like Zbigniew Brzezinski as top foreign policy advisors in political campaigns for the presidency. If so, then my opinion would also apply with RK, and it's that one of the top elites who've been long working to criminally corrupt the U.S. govt and threaten the world about Iraq's or else the Middle East's OIL resources supposedly being owned by the USA and therefore ....
That's from what's known as the 'Carter Doctrine', on which I recently made a post here, and including links to a few resources, but searching CD doesn't turn it up, so I guess CD deleted it; perhaps because I was using this to say that Obama's campaign clearly is already infiltrated by an elitist who is said to have been threatening, in 1980, Russia, but sort of the whole world and with words that infer that he and his ilk treat the Middle East's resources, minimally those of Iraq, as if owned by the USA and its ruling elites. It wasn't a specific claim that Obama is aligned with such thinking that I stated, but that he's evidently not qualitatively selective about who he accepts for policy advisors and that, in itself, is to a characteristic to be aware and wary of.
After all, what Brzezinski specifically wrote is as per above when carefully read, instead of reading it with yet ever more U.S. egotism for starting point.
One of the links in my post was the No. 3 Award at ProjectCensored.org and for 2008. It's entitled, "AFRICOM: US Military Control of Africa's Resources", and the awarded article (and author) is for the part 1 page of a 3-part series; while only the first part is needed for a more extensive reference to this part of the Carter Doctrine, and subsequent applications; including under the Clinton administration; as far as the part 1 page of the article refers to, that is. According to PC, that article series is by Bryan Hunt, but the source article uses the author pseudo-name of 'b real', and is entitled, "Understanding AFRICOM: A Contextual Reading of Empire's New Combatant Command". It's at MoonOfAlabama.org.
I'm not going to include the links, since a CD search is not turning up the link to the page in which I made the post and I don't want that bs censorship bias to happen yet again. CD allows war criminals and supporters thereof to post all of their bs here, while censoring critical, warning, but still valid posts by citizens who truly do hold to the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Intl laws and conventions, human rights and dignity of ALL peoples, as well as dignity and sacredness of Nature. Obama's screwed up and inexcusably so too many times as a Senator, and he's provided a little improvement recently, when Bush Jr inferred that Obama is like an appeaser of Hitler, during Bush's recent visit in Israel; but Obama still has an otherwise awful voting record as a senator. No, not worse than most members of the Senate and the Congress, but that's still inexcusable for placing blatantly criminal votes in such high offices of U.S. politics.
Anyway, the above information should make it easy to do a Web search to find these resource articles, and the PC analysis is very good, even if short. I would've prefered that the reviewer provide more information on the whole of the 3-part series, at least to say that the whole of it is included for the award, as opposed to not saying this and only linking to part I. I haven't read the whole of any of the three parts, but looked them all over enough to see that these evidently are worth reading and are recommendable.
Neither article states that Brzezinski is the person who wrote this part of the "Carter Doctrine", but the Wikipedia page on that "doctrine" states that he was.
Also if anyone is interested in Progressives having more influence we will be able to unify much better if Obama wins and turns out badly than if McCain wins.
The reason is just logic from the past.
If McCain wins Progressives will keep blaiming each other for the McCain win just like the Greens get much of the blame for 2000.
If we do not unify we will remain pretty powerless but we can still be Gloomy.
Even the Sheeple know when they are gettin fleeced.
According to the Prophecy
Thank you Mr. Pilger for pairing Bill Clinton with Tony Blair. Too many Americans think Clinton was liberal, and was a democrat. Nooooooooo!!! He was, and is no different from GW Bush. Look at his wife's campaign. "Two for the price of one?" No thanks. How about ZERO for the price of none! The Clintons are AWFUL, and NAFTA killed THOUSANDS OF JOBS for Americans. I HATE Bill Clinton. What a corporate SLIMEBAG, just like his wife. Why don't they come clean and simply be what they are: neo-con corporate enabling REPUBLICRATS.
Also, and as I believe either most people already know about, or that many enough do, Brzezinski is "grand master" or "wizard" author of the book, "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives" (1997); and he's most surely not given up on such plans, the U.S. basically conquering and dominating the whole world and with not Israel, but economic racketeering as the basis, while, and "of course", we know much of this modern-day Roman Empire expansionism is through military means.
"Grand master" he may be in his planning for his "chess games", but damn stupidly dumb animal he is. He's actually obvious when we known enough about his antics and notions of the role of the USA or any other single country here, on Earth. (Are there any countries on any planets not yet explored? I don't know; haven't been there, and there is not here, though we do have unnatural political borders.)
He's NO advisor; he's a damn war criminal as of when he threatened the world with military aggression if they threatened the USA's OIL "interests" (possessions in his mind and words) in the Middle East. And the same ... hell has been going on in Africa for quite some years now, albeit also for mining resources, natural gas, and vast fertile lands; only so-called "humanitarians", "liberals", "progressives", ... of the West contribute, sometimes wittingly (USAID, really US-MALADY or -DISEASE, -GANGSTERISM, ..., and some other parties or groups) to covering up what the real and underlying problem is and which is that the West refuses to do business [fairly] with other countries that are too weak to be able to oppose the U.S. or West. They cry for the worst criminal state in the world, the USA, and the UN, which is too often controlled, and otherwise is clobbered, by the USA to intervene in situations like in the Darfur region of Sudan, while hellishly ignoring or, worse, intentionally enough disregarding the fact that the USA and Western elites, i.e., pigs, are the biggest problem of all there; as they are across this planet, this one here, you know, the we call Earth (in case another dummy, here, at CD this time, questions again about what 'here' is when it's clear what the answer is).
Anyway, before even opening and starting to read Brzezinski's book, the title itself says a LOT when we truthfully know enough about the truth of the USA's conduct in this world, here (Earth, for the dummies who need further clarification).
I knew Bobby Kennedy. And Barack Obama is NO Bobby Kennedy.
Dennis Kucinich 2012! Oh, that's right: He's too far left for "Liberals".
"Moreover, none of the candidates represents so-called mainstream America."
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Will the real mainstream America please stand up? Sometimes Americans are actually motivated by morality, but more often by narrow self-interest. Hey, it's the nature of the beast. Still, we abolished feudalism, monarchy, slavery, adopted progressive income taxes, and gave women the vote. Two steps forward, one step back. That's the best we can realistically hope for. We just took one big step back; now we need a consensus, and leaders, for those two steps forward. Obama's no messiah, but he may stop the internal hemorrhaging.
My grandfather, who came west on the Oregon Trail and whom I loved deeply, was a member of the KKK. Oregon remains an almost lily-white state, but this month almost sixty percent of Oregon democrats voted for a black guy to lead our party.
No matter how phony President Obama may turn out to be, he's still black, and whites are voting for him in large numbers. Maybe mainstream America has finally overcome its viciously racist heritage. That would be a huge moral victory in its own right.
What a great article!! Thank you!
Daniel David said: "Nader's last four or five (futile) attempts....The reality is that a majority of Americans are as dumb as a concrete block (How the heck do you think you got Bush twice?)...Without Obama or Clinton (preferably teamed...), you get McCain by default, and you get him picking your judges and poised to veto every initiative that does not suit corporations...Stop buying into this self-serving crap that is dished up by "progressives" who enable everything except "progress"....Democrats are what you have to work with. They are ALL you have to work with."
I totally agree!!! Naderite Progressives must find a way to work WITHIN the Dem Party, or continue to be the cause of its failure to Repubs election AFTER election. This ISN'T Germany (though I wish it were). Our constitution specifies a WINNER TAKE ALL Democracy which allows only TWO parties of any REAL strength. Again, I wish that weren't true. But until modern progressives recognize their own complicity in Democratic failures in the last 10-15 years, they will continue to be the Wahabbists of modern American politics: killing other Sunni's for not being 'sunni' enough.
Maybe with a Dem majority we can change our Constitution to be more of a Parlimentary majority type of government. Until then, we're a winner-take-all society, and that means only two boxers in the ring.
RichM said: "mikep writes, '…Israel isn't responsible for... 'starving' Palestinians in Gaza. The Gazans elected a party that advocated war and now they have the war they chose'. [mikep's] post should be studied carefully for its utter contempt for truth & decency...Particularly vicious are the quotation marks in which mikep placed the word "starving," as though those people aren't starving, or as though it was amusing that they are in fact starving."
That's so true. I couldn't believe I was reading it. Where is such filth trained anyway? Hopefully not in MY America.
RichM May 31st, 2008 6:22 pm
As I remember it, I believe that Isreal was attacked each time there was an Arab/Israeli war. Is that not correct?
Isn't Egypt on the other side of Gaza or is my geography wrong? If thats correct, why aren't supplies coming in from there.
Why did the Isralei withdraw in the first place if they wanted to starve the people there? Why not just stay?
As you can tell I haven't paid enough attention to this area.
And once again rabid zionist bitches vomit all over the board and hijack another thread that has nothing to do with zionist israel. The whole world could evaporate in a nuclear blast but these zionist cockroaches (like their southern baptist and al-qaeda brothers) will somehow survive.
By the way ... RichM is absolutely right.
"Get off it, mikep. You only spout lying Zionist propaganda. I for one, am tired of hearing the same mistruths whined over and over." -by curmudgeon99 May 31st, 1:17 pm (responding to mikep)
"The post is pure filth, entirely comparable to writings of apologists for white supremacists, Nazis, or apartheid." -by RichM May 31st, 6:22 pm (responding to mikep)
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I hate to admit it in public, but lately, at night when no one's watching, I've been hitting abcnews.com, together with other porn sites. Last night ABC posted an article on how Israel is refusing exit visas to Gazan Fulbright scholars. If the students leave without their visas, they become instant refugees with no right of return.
I looked at the comments and noticed that they were all similar to mikep's. Total, vicious, back-to-back lies. Huh? So I posted two responses to set the record straight. Haha.
No surprise that an ABC moderator immediately deleted my posts and banned me from the forums. Let's not pussyfoot around, the corporate MSM are promoting war crimes and crimes against humanity, just like Nazi sympathizers did before and during the Holocaust. Zionists rightly wanted to hold Nazis accountable for their crimes against humanity. Who will now hold the Zionists and their MSM sympathizers accountable for theirs?
Thomas More: The Israelis don't want Gaza, there's nothing but sand there--no aquifers like in the West Bank. So Israel turned Gaza into a huge concentration camp. Israel does not allow supplies to enter from Egypt. Both Arabs and Israelis have initiated battles in this ongoing war against Israeli ethnic cleansing and apartheid. Israel started the conflict by driving approximately 700,000 Palestinians off their own land, murdering thousands in the process, and then denying Palestinian refugees any right to return. See books by Walt and Mearsheimer, Illan Pappe, and Jonathan Cook.
A couple things Pilger is missing are just how far the U.S. is from a functioning Democracy as opposed to a Plutocracy or worse, and, under these conditions, which also existed in l968, how important leadership and charisma are to political success. That's what the Kennedys provided along with pragmatic policies for more egalitarian progress. That is what Obama also may offer and why he get's so much support given the media defined alternatives. If we expect much more we will have to first replace our media or eventually wind up like Italy. Of course it would help if our alternative media "progressives" had a better grasp on our real history so we might actually learn from that rather than just have more corporate media influenced spin and agenda driven perspectives.
I have a different take on things. Obama's instincts and philosophy are probably somewhat more progressive than his currently articulated positions, just as McCain's has abandoned whatever moderation may once have been in his soul. I trust Obama's instincts much more than Clinton's or McCain's, and among the choices on offer he is clearly the best. For us to bash him and dispirit progressive voters won't help our country.
Mike C,
I am not so sure Brezizinski is the rabid neo con he is often painted as here.
It seems He is more complex than that.
Check out http://www.oilempire.us/zbig.html
Although very conservative and realistically aware of the ways of emperialism and a Trilateral Commission founder, He was against the 1st Gulf War and Bush's Iraq war and critic the policies of Israel, the War on Terrorism, and the Israel lobby too.
and wikipedia:
"Post 9/11
After 9/11 Brzezinski was criticized for his role in the formation of the Afghan mujaheddin network, some of which would later form the Taliban and would shelter Al Qaeda camps. He asserted that blame rightfully ought to be laid at the feet of the Soviet Union, whose invasion he claimed radicalized the relatively stable Muslim society.
Brzezinski also became a leading critic of the Bush administration's "war on terror." Some painted him as a neoconservative because of his links to Paul Wolfowitz and his 1997 book The Grand Chessboard. Brzezinski wrote The Choice in 2004 which expanded upon The Grand Chessboard but sharply criticized the Bush administration's foreign policy. He has defended the paper The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy. He has been outspoken in his criticism of the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the subsequent conduct of the war.
Brzezinski currently lives in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. He is married to internationally recognized sculptor Emilie Anna Benes (grandniece of Czechoslovakia's former president Edvard Beneš) and has three children. Ian served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Europe and NATO and is now a Principal at Booz Allen Hamilton. Mark is a partner in McGuire Woods LLP, Washington, D.C., and a foreign policy advisor to Barack Obama. His daughter Mika is a reporter who is currently the co-host and news reader on Morning Joe on MSNBC.
[edit]United States presidential election 2008
Brzezinski is one of Senator Barack Obama's foreign policy advisers for the presidential campaign of 2008.[16]
Brzezinski stated on Morning Joe, May 22, 2008, that he has endorsed Barack Obama but is not an advisor."
The alternate view of "Israel being attacked" in each of the Arab israeli wars.
1948: Negotiations were still ongoing between the UN, The Palestinains, represented in part by the various Arab states, and The peoples advocating an independent Israel.
Those representing Israel unilaterally declared Israeli Independence and laid claim to lands Palestinians still lived on and claimed as their own. The Arab nations mobilized to defend Palstinian interests. This war was sparked by the Israeli unilateral declaration of the Israeli state.
Picture settlers on Americas frontiers unilaterally declaring Native American lands as theirs and indicating that the Native tribes should leave those territories. Would the Natives be the agressors if they tried to drive those settlers off?
1956
Nasser tried to nationalize the Suez canal. He closed it to Israeli shipping. The French, British and israelis did not like this and launched an attack against Egypt. Israel promised territories in the Suez. Israel sent its forces into the Suez. Egypt did not send its forces into Israel.
1967
The Israelis attacked first. This is a fact that is beyond dispute. they launched a sneak attack on Arab forces detroying the various Air Forces on the ground.
1973
The Yom Kippur war. This is the only one of the 4 wars where Arab forces acted first. Thjis to reclaim occupied territoires seized by the Israelis in the 1967 war.
" mikep May 31st, 2008 12:52 pm
Good to hear honest reporting about RFK. Kennedy type liberalism has done the US a lot of damage and it needs to be discredited."
We only speculate on what RK might have done if elected, and given that you refused to provide any supporting details for your above words, they are therefore WORTHLESS and putrid, sewage.
However, I have my own order of questioning. Would he have reversed the criminal economic sanctions against Cuba that his brother Pres. JFK signed off on, f.e.? If not, then RK is not as great as his fans pretend, and I'm not fan of anyone; although Harry Belafonte, Jimmy Hendrix, ..., and musicians employing only primitive musical instruments, which I prefer above all, are enough of an exxception.
JFK also did not order full cessation of the criminal war on Vietnam (including the South, eventually, but also quickly enough) in prompt manner; only having taken years to decide that the U.S. should stop. He at least did come to do that, but why it took him that long to do this, while other national leaders of this world, including Canadian PM Lester B. Pearson said that this war was Wrong, well, I don't know why JFK wasn't as bright. Yet, he still came to say that the U.S. needed to stop and that's good, even if later than desirable.
"But the remarks on Israel are bizarre, and, as always, blatantly anti-Semitic (deny it all you want)."
NO, NOT always; sometimes, occasionally, but certainly not always.
"Israel isn't responsible for the war there, and they certainly aren't responsible for 'starving' Palestinians in Gaza."
Duh?! If 'there' is Iraq, then I agree, for while Israel wanted and called for the war on Iraq and does the same, perhaps more strongly with respect to Iran, it is NOT the real reason for the West's war on the Middle East.
It is, however, the superpower, and by far so, in the Middle East, as tiny as Israel is for population; and this military strength is strategically profitable for the West's elitists making these wars (of aggression). It provides them with not a stronger, but a quasi-superpower military basing [in] the Middle East, and, on wider scale, like much of all of Asia, I "figure".
Why? I'm not from textbook schoolbenching, let's say. We can find or already know of sufficient analogies from knowing how criminal organisations sometimes do inter-operate and therefore -relate, f.e. However, we don't need that for understanding that Israel strategically is militarily useful to the West's elites, who know that the USA can't take on the whole of Earth's countries alone, and the more psychopathically ready "allies" are, the more reassured these Western elites can believe to be.
"The Gazans elected a party that advocated war and now they have the war they chose."
Hamas NEVER did that; [LIAR]! By saying that of Hamas, which was fully and democratically elected by the Palestinians, as they [should] have done and greatly did, you prove that you are nothing but LIAR and damn moronically stupid hypocrite. Is that what you wish to prove of yourself?!
You want democracy in your own country, but refuse it to others whenever your hellbent insane biases kick in. For it to be blatantly obvious only requires, f.e., that people pretend that Hamas is wrong and Israel right; for the situation clearly is the complete reverse and anyone of truly sane nature and who's adequately informed knows that not only is Hamas right, but also are most other people of the whole Middle East with respect to HELL-bent Israeli leadership, sons, i.e., human fiends, of the father of lies and murder, NOT of God.
Before you choose to continue your false and easily debunkable pretenses, you should enlist and get your ass over to Iraq so that Iraq's Resistance forces can take some "pot-shots" at you, or become PTSD'd, because you betray our fooled soldiers and our trashed Constitution and international laws, ...; and such treason deserves some bullet holes asap, imo (although lynching would also be fitting). If we really had a country that seriously believes in defending against "enemies from within", the I'm sure you'd be either silent, or on the lynching list.
You're either a blatant liar, or else an unwitting propagator of lies, and neither is acceptable. And neither is acceptable!
People bitch about Hamas not accepting to treat Israel as a real and sovereign state, sure, and everyone or nearly everyone knows this by now. But Hamas is not alone among Palestinians and is RIGHT and guilty of either nothing, or else little, barely worthy of mention when we conduct a fully sound evaluation. The only reason why some, relatively few (very few) Palestinians have committed acts of violence in Israel is because of the Israeli leadership's and military crimes of aggression and genocidal they most definitely and clearly are.
It [is] Israel, that is, Israeli leadership, that refuses to acknowledge that Palestine is a real and long-existing state and sovereign; instead of the opposite. Hamas has NO reason whatsoever to provide to Israel what Israel clearly and hellbent refuses to provide to Palestine, NOT one single iota of whasoever! So that Hamas justifiably refuses to grant Israel the kind of recognition that Israel flagrantly refuses to provide is NO wrong; Hamas is right!
Etcetera.
ubrew 12 wrote here:
"Our constitution specifies a WINNER TAKE ALL Democracy which allows only TWO parties of any REAL strength. Again, I wish that weren't true. But until modern progressives recognize their own complicity in Democratic failures in the last 10-15 years, they will continue to be the Wahabbists of modern American politics: killing other Sunni's for not being 'sunni' enough."
Not one word exists in the Constitution about political parties. They were created after the creation of the country. Or nation.
Also, you seem entirely ignorant of the role of "fringe" parties in American history. For example, in the economic crisis that got FDR elected, he ran to out-Hoover Hoover, but once elected ended up promoting many of the programs of those "fringe" parties from the Left.
Meanwhile, that is pretty inflammatory language you use, comparing American Progressives with fundamentalist Wahabbists "killing other sunni's [sic] for not being 'sunni' enough."
Probably, most Progressives end up voting Democrat for purely pragmatic reasons (esp. in the context of Pilger's article), but we do not really consider ourselves Democrat in the context since Clinton the bloviator. The last "real" Democrat in the White House was Carter and even he was borderline. And as recent polling ought to tell you, the great majority of Americans oppose both Washington DC Criminal Parties on most major issues, both domestic and geopolitical.
In my humble opinion you are what back in the Sixties we called a Provacateur, a person hired by others to learn just enough to disrupt the organization of people seeking their own best interest.
You need to stop writing and start reading. History.
Best to all
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John Pilger is an excellent journalist and this article is great. But he should not perpetuate the misinformation that Eugene McCarthy won the 1968 New Hampshire Democratic Party. He nearly won it, but fell short by about 7% to Lyndon Johnson. He also said afterward that he had waited in vain for Bobby Kennedy to come to his support. It was after McCarthy's great "success" in coming this close to defeating Johnson,however, that the opportunistic Kennedy realized that he could oppose Johnson and pretend to be an anti-war candidate. Kucinich could have been the McCarthy of 2008, if the damned corporate media had been as open now as they were in 1968.
Apologies for the typo:
"provocateur" not provacateur. Sorry. (I probably still haven't gotten it right!) Other similar nouns are disappearing, replaced by "terrorist" or was that "tourist"?)
I know three languages and none of them is French.
"Provocateure" anyone? Or have you skipped to the next article? EUR versus OUR?
Bertrand Russell said, in a TV interview after he turned 96, "Life is a river the banks of which keep receding." Pretty soon we will enter the ocean.
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His adviser on Iraq, Colin Kahl, says the US should maintain up to 80,000 troops in Iraq until 2010.
O'Bama finds plenty of fascists ready to help heave him into the oval orifice. He only has to look around for them, ehh? Probably not far outside the beltway. Heil O'Bama! Heil O'Bama!
"Democrats are what you have to work with. They are ALL you have to work with."
Very well put. In American politics it does no good to be OPENLY very far left of center. If your true feelings ARE very far left of center, your best bet is to toe the line when it comes to certain litmus-test issues (e.g. total support for Israel without conditions) or never get elected. People who don't get elected can't do anything.
It is possible, in theory, to slowly and gradually shift the narrow band of what is allowed in mainstream politics to the left. But trying to jump to a candidate like Nader, Kucinich, or even John Edwards when centrists like Gore can't be elected is just foolish. A Democratic administration needs to work within the boundaries to produce concrete change and gain respect as a party if they can hope to stop the pendulum swinging the other way after one or two terms.
I'm someone who has never given the Monica Lewinsky scandal much thought. But at this moment it seems to have been extremely important. Without that scandal reinforcing stereotypes about liberals with loose morals, "the country" probably wouldn't have switched parties in 2000. Maybe "changing the tone in Washington" was codespeak from Bush to the heartland: "I won't commit adultery in the White House."
I have learned a great deal from John Pilger over the years and very much admire his consistent weighing in on the side of the powerless in numerous conflicts around the world throughout his long career. Nonetheless, I do rather wish he would reserve further doubts about Barack Obama until after the man has been elected president, since there is no guarantee at the moment that such will be the outcome. When the reality staring us in the face is a choice between Obama and bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran McCain, then "liberalism's last fling" doesn't look all that bad – especially glimpsed from within the living nightmare of the past eight years.
Other Socialists out there get the desperate situation we're in and realize this is not a year to indulge in wishful thinking or imagine we can turn to any third force to save us. George Galloway, for example, has backed Obama from the beginning. Norman Finkelstein also gets it, making the point that, although the policies of the competing US presidential candidates hardly qualify as a two-party system, even a miniscule percentage of diversity could mean a world of difference to millions on this planet. Just as RFK and Gore would almost certainly have damaged fewer people than Nixon and Bush Jr., so Obama is likely to prove a saner leader than the alternative.
He might even turn out to be a pretty decent president, as US presidents go, whoever his corporate sponsors may be. Only time will tell, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of a doubt and a reasonable time in office before accusing him of 'same old-same old.'
His senior advisers embrace McCain's proposal for an aggressive "league of democracies", led by the United States, to circumvent the United Nations.
Heil O'Bama! Heil O'Bama! Why couldn't O'Bama propose that the United Nations dump the US so the UN could actually get something positive accomplished?
The media demanded that Obama disown Wright and swear an oath of loyalty to the Bush lie that "terrorists attacked America because they hate our freedoms". So he did.
They hate our wehrmacht! But our wermacht loves O'Bama!
An Obama victory will bring intense pressure on the US anti-war and social justice movements to accept a Democratic administration for all its faults.
Brown shirts in the streets! You didn't know who you were voting for, did you? Get in the bed of the truck!
"Not one word exists in the Constitution about political parties. They were created after the creation of the country. Or nation.
Also, you seem entirely ignorant of the role of 'fringe' parties in American history. For example, in the economic crisis that got FDR elected, he ran to out-Hoover Hoover, but once elected ended up promoting many of the programs of those 'fringe' parties from the Left."
Why would a politician who was elected on a centrist platform, then adopt fringe policies after being elected? Did some monumental shift occur so that the fringe became mainstream? If not, your very unique interpretation of history doesn't stand up to reason.
The real role that fringe parties sometimes play in American politics is to siphon off votes from one of the main parties - or to threaten to do so, and thus force the main parties to address certain issues. It's a pretty minor role in the end.
"Meanwhile, that is pretty inflammatory language you use, comparing American Progressives with fundamentalist Wahabbists 'killing other sunni's [sic] for not being 'sunni' enough.'"
Oh get off it. You're focusing on the wrong part of the analogy. Obviously the poster wasn't comparing what you are doing to murder, but only offering an example of one part of a faction turning on another part. As the saying goes, "the perfect becomes the enemy of the good."
"Probably, most Progressives end up voting Democrat for purely pragmatic reasons (esp. in the context of Pilger's article), but we do not really consider ourselves Democrat in the context since Clinton the bloviator. The last 'real' Democrat in the White House was Carter and even he was borderline."
And we all know how successful Carter's presidency was.... The American people do not want to be told to adjust their lifestyle in any way. "The American way of life is not up for debate" to paraphrase Bush I.
And Carter on Israel? His book was quietly ignored or half-heartedly ridiculed by most. You can't compare the Israeli occupation to apartheid and be taken seriously in American politics (never mind how obviously appropriate the comparison.)
"And as recent polling ought to tell you, the great majority of Americans oppose both Washington DC Criminal Parties on most major issues, both domestic and geopolitical."
Yet third parties don't catch on. I wonder why that is. Voters are perfectly capable of holding conflicting beliefs about politics - and most do. They want lower taxes, plus better schools and an enormous military. They may say in polls we shouldn't funnel money into Israel, but in the end they don't care. It doesn't affect their vote. Half are so apathetic as to not bother voting, and the half that do? You can bet a good deal of them are barely cognizant of things like our policy on Israel.
"In my humble opinion you are what back in the Sixties we called a Provacateur, a person hired by others to learn just enough to disrupt the organization of people seeking their own best interest.
You need to stop writing and start reading. History."
Your condescending tone only contributes to stereotypes about "progressives". Too many progressives refuse to fully accept that their views are not "ready for prime time" in this country. I believe that as the U.S. economy shrinks - a process that will be hurried along by all the military spending - citizens will demand more social programs, and the U.S. will transition to a European-style social democracy. But the people who will facilitate that process are not the fringe. It will be the centrist Democrats who compromise with Republicans to actually pass legislation, rather than be perpetually marginalized.
Now, I'm not giving a free pass to the Clintons and their DLC ilk. There are factions of every stripe within the party, and certainly many Democrats would be satisfied with a status quo of corporatism hardly distinguishable from their centrist Republican colleagues. But the refrain that "there's no difference between the two parties" overstates the issue, and makes reasonable people tune out.
There ARE differences. Yes, they are marginal, but change in American politics takes place within the margins. You can pine for a revolution all you want, but meanwhile people like Obama will be doing what little they can to nudge things in the right direction. We have to pick our battles.
Jim Glover: If McCain wins Progressives will keep blaiming each other for the McCain win just like the Greens get much of the blame for 2000.
Jim, if McKane wins and continues the wrecking ball enterprise, progressives hope that Demoks will finally see the colossal blunder of their triangulation, give it up, and move to the left where sanity prevails. If we're going to unify, it has to be over the progressive platform. The triangulation platform fails the people.
I yesterday posted a comment on this article that was published in Dissident Voice. I reprint it here by way of introducing my viewpoint to the commenters on this post and also by way of apology to Common Dreams, which I lumped among the several "progressive" websites that have frozen out articles with any degree of serious question about the Obama candidacy. Way to go, CD!
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John Pilger speaks a truth that needs to be spoken—and more than that HEARD —by every fearful "progressive" in America who believes that voters this November will have no choice but to vote for Obama as the "lesser evil." Actually he is probably the greater threat than McCain to any dim prospects for peace in the world. His ability to co-opt and placate the anti-war crowd is already seen in the inability of The Nation or Common Dreams or Democracy for America, among others, to raise a whisper of "evil" about Obama's hip-pocket relationship to Israel, his support of militarism and imperialism, and his financial backing by those not sympathetic to any kind of populist political agenda. The realization of this could be the open sesame for public consideration of "alternatives" to the two candidates of the corporate duopology, from which there will be a number of worthy bidders for public support.