If our values are blatant hypocrisy, torturing, and bombing those who don't agree with us, then yes - they should hate us.

The war on terror has given the neocons a license to steal, rape and murder. Assuring a steady stream of new terrorists assures that the license will be renewed indefinitely.

Just as the majority in this country approve of the "war" in Iraq, because of all the propaganda the country has been flooded with since 9/11, they also see nothing wrong with the torture of those they believe to be, because of that continuing flood of propaganda, more terrorists like the ones who flew the planes into the towers on 9/11; and I have no doubt, if half of them were given the chance, would cheerfully assist with the torture.

make that last sentence "if given the chance, half of them would cheerfully assist in the torture."

The answer to the opening question is easy:

We're savages.

And we'll defend our "right" to savagehood with the 200 million non-military, non-police guns floating around the country.

Have a nice day.

Republicans don't do anything unless there's money in it. Where was the money to be made in engaging in torture? Were bonuses handed out for extracting information?; the information ranked on a sliding scale of importance; the better the info, the greater the bonus, with a per centage of the bonus kicked back to Republican government officials. Were foreign governments paid off to be used as torture centers and then kickbacks paid to high Republican officials by those governments? Torture Payola. FOLLOW THE MONEY!

The outrage is carefully managed--- sliced-n-diced and channeled into fear and worry over "culture wars", economic collapse, gas prices, etc.

A society that is spiritually robust enough to torture its enemies can surely rid itself of enemies within. A people who are intellectually equipped to bend back a guy's thumbs and squash his balls can divest themselves of their spiritually diseased. The Great American Genocide will rid our people of personality disorders and promote a race of warriors and patriots.

If the report wasn't featured prominently on American Idol, then the bulk of Americans probably never heard of it, or that there's even an issue about torture. And if they somehow heard about it, the response would be "really? uh-huh, ok...when's the next American Idol".

Too many of these writers and pundits seem to be insulated from real life and what seems to matter to the majority of Americans, even the so-called "affluent".

Probably our enemies will be more interested in reading a 370-page pdf than most Americans. Half our folks are at the sports bar and the other half are at church. Truth, for either of those groups, is low priority.

Don't bother bashing the Republicans. Just elect your Democrats and re-write the future.

In many American Indian societies, the job of torturing prisoners was left to the women, who had a certain zest for it. The fly in the human soup seems to be present regardless of gender, race or nationality, and finds its way to the surface through all kinds of pretensions to the rule of reason or social evolution.

All that we need to give up is the absurd notion of American exceptionalism. We are no better and no worse than everybody else. Our species, across the board, suffers from a definitive malignancy. Nastiness is not all there is to us, but none of us are immune to it either.

Aggression + intelligence = cruelty. You'll get precisely the same amount of outrage about revelations of CIA torture as you get about simulated violence on prime time TV. - i.e. an occasional squeak from some gentle soul who has awakened long enough to be horrified. Those and the Seraphim are the location of Mr. Scheer's missing outrage.

The sad thing is most Americans think of Muslims as their enemies. Christians especially HATE Muslims and are continuing
"The Crusades". The hatred between religions will never cease. I have heard Christians hatred toward Muslims. Jews hate Muslims as well. This has continued for centuries.

As long as AIPAC runs our Government, the torture, murder and destruction of Muslims and their way of life continues.

It is time to end the abuse against Palestinians by the Israelis for land that wasn't theirs to begin with. Carter is right, Europe should not support the US and Israel as they continue to kill and oppress these innocent people.

Olmert is being kicked out in 'another ZIONIST' inside job as he is suppose to have peaceful negotiations with Syria. The powers that Be in this country don't want that to happen as their Agenda is to take over the MIDDLE EAST and continue to kill the MUSLIMS they hate. We have to stop AIPAC and the Zionists or the wars will never end. Only US Citizens can stop it and that is to fight against AIPAC.

Don't worry, the Unitard Decider will locate the outrage. I believe he put out a video a couple years back for the press club dinner that showed him diligently searching for missing outrage under desks, behind file cabinets, etc.

So long as war is championed, aggression will be accepted as its fuel. It's been known by women that they have to try harder to earn positions once only the province of men. Hatred is present in both genders, but it takes a patriarchal model of militarism to encourage women to become more cruel than their male counterparts.

I apologize to those who have heard me state this before, I feel strongly that Condi Rice is the reincarnation of Genghis Kahn, back to reclaim where her empire-building (when empowered by a male body) came to a halt. How many sweet little African American girls aspire to become oil magnates who enter into war-making circles? That is NOT the calling unless it's been IMPLANTED from way before, particularly given the way she rose back to a certain fame and has a LUST for blood that is almost inhuman.

You want outrage? Take away American Idol or Dancing with the Stars!

America is a blatantly criminal, immoral, and hypocritical culture born out of genocide and slavery and expanding through invasion. The embarrassing complacency and apathy of all "Good Americans" keeps it going. Like with all evil empires of the past, someday the world will demand its rightful compensation.

criticalthinktank: If you think Christians hate Muslims - wait'll you finally get it that MUSLIMS REALLY HATE ANYONE WHO'S NOT MUSLIM! I don't mean individuals - but as a group Muslims (males) are dangerous and have proven themselves to be so. I have Muslims in my family - but it wasn't until 9/11 and after that I learned how much Muslims en masse hate the rest of us.

Try not to be so politically correct. It's easier to get to the truth that way.

Or take away "24". Keifer Sutherland has done more to inculcate the acceptability of torture than anyone else in this country. He may escape his crime, a la Leni Reifenstahl, but he is just as culpable as the rest of the fascists.

Bob Dylan once said
"How many ears must one man have before he can hear people cry?"
The media has done so much to demonize Islam, going so far as to imply that all Islamists as terrorists. (Implied DAILY on Fox News)
Torture and inhuman treatment has grown from this seed the same way that anti-semitism grew in Germany in 1939. Secret prisons, denial of legal counsel, and closed door tribunals have also made their appearance.
It has worked perfectly. Americans now associate Islam with Evil.
If we attack Iran there will be little or no resistance from the American populace. (Same as Iraq, same as Afghanistan) There may be even less resistance considering the brainwashing since 9/11. Americans will pay any price for gas as long as they are 'safe'.
Only too late, like the Germans in 1944, will they realize what they are doing.

Robert Scheer,

Regarding your question: "Where's the outrage?" ...

The following is an excerpt from a review by Christie Schaefer of Amy and David Goodman's new book, "Standing Up to the Madness."

Ms. Schaefer:

"'Standing Up to the Madness' begins with a well-known citation: 'When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the American flag.' This saying, attributed to various people, has become something of a mantra in certain circles on the American left.

"The litany of complaints which follow --eroding civil liberties, increasingly stark economic divisions, the war in Iraq -- are presented with no close examination. Each ill is viewed as having a single unifying cause, to wit: the Bush Administration.

"No mention is made of the connection between the breakdown of democracy and the growth of social inequality, or between the predatory war aims of the US elite and the attacks on democratic rights at home.

"In a word there is no suggestion that the policies of the Bush administration reflect more than the 'madness' of one individual or perhaps, at most, neo-conservative circles. The book never raises the larger question of the failure of the social and economic order, capitalism.

"The question asked by the authors in the midst of it all is, 'Where is the outrage?' To ask such a question is to insult the millions of people who have indeed expressed outrage, and who are suffering from the attacks described.

"By implicitly blaming the population for the lack of opposition to the assault on democratic rights the Goodmans shift attention away from the critical role played by the Democratic Party -- the supposed opposition party -- in enabling the rise to power of the Bush Administration through the hijacked 2000 election, the passage of the Patriot Act, the war on terror and the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan."
Click here for the entire review -- http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/may2008/good-m27.shtml

If an international war crimes trial were held, the subject of which was America's murderous foreign policy from, say, 1945 to the present, Democratic Party leaders would be standing in the dock right alongside Republican Party leaders.

US imperialist bloodbaths have had *bipartisan* support.

Consider the following. Iraq is the 20th different country the United States government has bombed since the end of World War II.

The *20th* different country the United States government has bombed since the end of World War II.

What other country can that be said of? China? The Soviet Union?

Many of these countries were bombed for many years (e.g., Iraq, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea).

And none of these 20 countries, not one, had sufficient military power to make it a "fair fight." Instead, these 20 countries -- every single one of them -- was a third world country, with military power dwarf-like as compared to the United States.

It's like Mike Tyson fighting Woody Allen. Some fight.

In such a slaughter of a war, how can a soldier of the superior, imperialist power possibly be "brave"?

Any even slightly informed political observer knows this -- knows the history of US imperialism before and, in particular, *after* World War II.

It's not that the general public isn't outraged by this history; and, specifically, by what's going on in Iraq. They are! It's that liberal opinion leaders and liberal media commentators, many of whose articles appear here at the commondreams.org website, try mightily to "refashion" this broad-based public outrage into support for more of the same-old-same-old; that is to say, for support of the (THEY"RE BAAAAAAACK!) quadrennial-appearing lesser-of-the-two-evil csndidates.

These well-meaning liberal functionaries (note: they might as well draw a paycheck from the DNC as well as their employers) believe in their heart of hearts (or maybe not), that all we have to do is elect a Democrat, pressure them to the left, and all will be solved.

The only problem is: IT HASN'T WORKED! AND IT WON'T WORK!

The Democratic Party is the ruling class' safety valve when the general population does, in fact, become outraged. Faithful political functionaries that they are, the Democratic apparatchik dutifully creates the illusion that if they are returned to power things will be different.

Meanwhile, the US continues, as it has for the past 40 years, to slide further and further to the right. Closer and closer to the fascism the liberal-left so ardently believes resides exclusively in the hearts and minds of the right-wingers, and no one else.

Not so. For to acquiesce -- as the Democrats have done time and time again during the Bush Administration -- is to support.

Consider, for example, how much further to the left commondreams.org *posters* as compared to the people who actually run and finance commondreams.org

The latter have a vested interest in the status quo; the former are outraged and prefer a much more fundamental solution to the problems created by the America ruling class -- a large part of which consists of the well-heeled, "comfortable" liberal punditocracy that permeates the media.

I am outraged. I am also completely at a loss anymore as to what to do about it. I worked hard to get Democratic control of legislative bodies, only to hear Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Conyers take impeachment 'off the table'...I now even more firmly believe that the Rep and Dem National Parties are, together, controlling the power structures within this country's government, are corrupt and fascist and serving the same, and have the temperament, the infrastructure and the weaponry\technology to do many citizens of opposing philosophy grave harm if provoked...where does one go to express outrage when the government's internal checks and balances are sabotaged, and public protest leads to super-violent responses, including tasering\beating\gassing\shooting\imprisoning and torturing, by my own government's paid thugs, and all without legal recourse? This will only end in the streets one day, with you and me as the Ragtag band of poorly-armed walk-ons vs. the United States police\military and Blackwaterboard with their tax-dollar purchased killing machines...

Incidentally, for what it's worth, I absolutely believe 911 was premeditated detonation\murder, and I do not blame Osama\Islam\Muslims, even though I have been repeatedly and emphatically, albeit disingenuously, encouraged to do so...I blame my own government (all three branches) and their corporate partners, who are international in scope and ruthless in execution...where is the outrage? I am the outrage. Who's on my side, and what's to be done?

dubet-
Make sure that your position on 9/11 is due to careful research and study so it's an intelligently formed opinion. (Otherwise you get branded a 'conspiracy theorist') Those of us that have taken the time to research the event can smell the rat and will tell you it was most likely an inside job. Please don't take our word for it. I'm sure the more you research the more rediculous the official story and 'structural collapse due to fire' will become. Don't forget your tinfoil hat. If you don't have one, I have extras.

What was the Democratic Party's response to the 2006 Congressional elections, in which the majority of the general public, clearly outraged at the Iraqi War, used their votes to indicate that they wanted the War to end?

Answer: The votes were no sooner counted than Nancy Pelosi declared "impeachment is off the table." With John Conyers, that great liberal beacon of hope, dutifully following her directive. (... Some beacon.)

And what was the Democratic Party's response when Howard Dean came out of nowhere, galvanizing grassroots opposition to the War in 2004?

Answer: The Democratic Party, specifically, the DLC, soon put the kabosh on any thought that the electorate might actually have a *say* in matters of war and peace. Heaven forfend!

Dean made a funny sound, lost the nomination, and was thrown a fair-sized bone to keep him placated and in-tow.

And Kerry and Gore ... how easy it would have been for them to defeat George Bush! Instead, rather than tapping into the considerable public resentment -- the public *outrage,* Mr Scheer! -- and in doing so LANDSLIDING George Bush, they played it safe, moved hard to the middle-right -- and lost.

Oh but no bother; none of them and their elite friends suffered; certainly not the way the average US citizen has suffered. To say nothing of millions of men, women and children around the world.

Where's the outrage? -- what an insulting, condescending question to ask! Where's the outrage over the Democratic Party and their their well-heeled "cruise missile liberal" pals selling out the general citizenry?

One can't say: "Oh I hate what the US military-industrial complex has done to the world! I hate what corporate dominance of the political system has done to democracy! I hate the social inequalities that are tearing the world apart!" ...

And then say: "Oh, and by the way, vote Democratic. Vote for the party that takes just as much money from Corporate America as the Republicans. ... Vote Democratic, the party that just as loyally as the Republicans supports the military-industrial complex. ... Vote Democratic, the party that, with the Republicans, *unfailingly* passes legislation that creates social inequality, economic injustice and class exploitation.

To acquiesce is to support. Any good Nazi knows that.

The torture issue, like almost every other issue, is about race, and to paraphrase Reverend Wright, those who own the power use it to subdue all others who are different. The reason there is no outrage is because it automatically puts the outraged into the camp of the "other." The powerful manipulate most of us using the same simple sort of axiom. Of course race, may be about any ethnic group, gender group or race group which is highly arbitrary. All that matters is that if you go against the establishment, or the status quo, or now the oligarchy, you will become the "other." Writers, like Scheer, who get paid by the word, don't like to simplify this sort of thing, but it's about that simple.

lorax - I believe you and I may agree regarding 911...I did a great deal of research at the time (before the 'attack Iraq' smokescreen was in play)...incidentally, an actual conspiracy would appear to be, and remain vulnerable to being dismissed as, only a theory if all evidence and avenues of investigation were removed\closed as quickly and effectively as possible, which is what happened here...anyway, the treasonous acts of 911 are the least of our worries looking forward...when one looks at what is happening with this government right now, how can one doubt the depths to which their conceit\deceit\ruthlessness\ambition are capable of going?

The greatest Guru in the world teaches, "ALL RELIGIONS ARE ONE. GOD IS LOVE."
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Truth is dead in the USA.

Also, this new revelation on torture brings to mine a joke I've been hearing lately which says:

"Countries that hack us off better watch out, otherwise we might just bring 'democracy' to their country"

Juliann May 28th, 2008 2:17 pm
criticalthinktank: If you think Christians hate Muslims - wait'll you finally get it that MUSLIMS REALLY HATE ANYONE WHO'S NOT MUSLIM! I don't mean individuals - but as a group Muslims (males) are dangerous and have proven themselves to be so. I have Muslims in my family - but it wasn't until 9/11 and after that I learned how much Muslims en masse hate the rest of us.

Try not to be so politically correct. It's easier to get to the truth that way.
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Sir/Mdm. I certainly take exception to this statement so full of ignorance and hate. As not all of ANY are the same, please refrain from such rants unless what you say is factual and what you have said is NOT.

What is with the American Idol and Dancing with something, I hear this on this site all of the time, I don't know anyone that watches those shows. Many do not even own TV's. It is almost like listening to an ?anchor? on Fox with the use of generalizations.

The outrage I hold is for all of the Contemptable persons of the Executive branch. I have done everything I can think of and many I know as well, yet it continues. Helen Thomas asked bobble-head Perino @ the self admitted Torture in this article and what was going to be done about it, Perino with her normal condescending rhetoric when Helen asks her questions 6 ways from Sunday said, "No, Helen you are misconstrueing the presidents words again.", then Perino goes 'NEXT', Helen threw her hands up in disgust and said aloud, "Why is no one asking any questions? WHY? What is wrong with you people?". This is the last remaining ethical journalist in this country, and perino dares to condescend to her.
This country has gone MAD!!

voxclamantis put for the idea "The fly in the human soup (in this case, willingness to torture) seems to be present regardless of gender, race or nationality, and finds its way to the surface through all kinds of pretensions to the rule of reason or social evolution."

... and in our case, comes to the surface quite readily. We are an anaesthetized society, taught through long years of oppressive schooling to undertake more long years of mind-numbing employment is a mechanized economy, devoid of anything resembling natural human joy or fulfillment. We no longer even need to rise to the level of ferocity needed heretofore in battles fought largely by hand-to-hand combat. The requirement for such ferocity has now replaced by the necessity to be cool under fire as we kill from distances by pulling triggers, or now even from different continents by pushing buttons.

Torture is made possible simply by finding those who enjoy it. Any culture as oppressive as ours can easily find such people, whose natural human deisires have been thwarted or so long that they have stored up an ample supply of rage that can be directed at any target designated by those in authority as suitable outlets.

The other response to the prolonged and repeated frustration of human needs is anaesthetication. We no longer even recognize the thwarted right of every person to human community and personal fulfillment, thus we cope with that mental aunguish and frustration simply by ceasing to care. Lack of outrage is simply the reverse side of the coin whose obverse is torture.

And what about the rule of reason? In modern times, the rule of reason has been detached from values and feelings. "Objectivity" is the catchword of the day, as if our experience of the world could somehow be detached from human values. As if a statement like "the grass is green" is somehow more valid than a statement such as "torture is evil and unworthy of us as a people".

Where is the outrage? Look inside. It's there. Quelled by repeated doses of societal anaesthetic.

purvis ames,

I am anti-torture. I am anti-imperialism. I am most definitely anti-Bush. However, I'm also aware that "24" is a fictional show. It does not sell itself as a docudrama. If someone watches a FICTIONAL SHOW and decides they will shape their opinions on American public policy accordingly, then they are fools. Their stupidity is not Fox's fault, it's not Sutherland's fault, it's their's. They are to blame. People WILLFULLY ignore the facts. No one forces them to watch reality show garbage or "24." They have a choice, and they choose to be ignorant. There should be thousands, if not millions of replies to this story. There won't be, because people choose to not care.

I guess all the outraged people are deciding if they want to vote for Obama or Hillary.

Please pardon my simplicity, but sometimes the simplest answers are correct.

If you support this economic system then you support war and torture.

With respect to the question about whether or not Americans are savages, it would probably help to remember that of all the large cultures on earth today, people of European ancestry are the most recent to have emerge from barbarism. We like to think that we are the descendants of the ancient Greeks, but we're really the descendants of all those barbarians who rushed in to fill up the power vacuum after Rome fell. That's probably why we still wreak so much havoc, be it military or environmental. We are definitely barbarians.

One could surmise as to why the outrage is missing is because not enough of the American population has not actually experienced torture themselves, so it is an abstraction and something that happens to people "somewhere else." Also, not enough Americans travel abroad and see how the United States is perceived without the filter of the corporate media. Simply put, Americans are soft and spoiled.

I am an American on my passport and my birth certificate, but in my heart I have no country. As member of the human family I am outraged when people are tortured in America or Israel or Iran or China.

The sooner we realize that the fight is not against each other, but each one against his/her own local delusions, then humanity may have a chance.

Teach Peace!

Why is there no outrage over what occurs in the world by Americans? The reason is that there is complicity in that Americans are part of the Empire as a way of Life. Americans neither know or care what happens as a consequence of the government's policies because there is the acceptance of the belief that the U.S. never does anything bad, or that what is done is to protect or promote the society. But while Bush and his cohorts are terrible, it is a mistake to believe thye are outliers in the whold propaganda of empire maintenance. The framework, after all, is set by the populace in the main. If Americans did not accept torture or war, we would not have it. Politicians in the South for 150 years advanced slavery and then supression because citizens supported it but also demanded it. Strom Thurmond was elected by a write in vote because of his views on segregation. A House member in Arkansas was defeated by a write in vote in the 1950s because he questiond segregation. Ae Lincoln did not offer for reelection to the House after the Mexican 'war began because he questioned the exact spot where the Mexicans attacked the U.S. American will only become outraged when the accepted ideology is changed by the populace itself, and that occurs very seldom and when they do, politicians will change. Until then, politicians such as Bush, McCAin and Democrats such as Biden and Kerry will continue to remain in the cocoon of the usual and the acceptable: which is Empire as a way of Life. Obama may expand this framework a bit, but it is unlikely he will challenge it.

Robert Scheer forgot a third possible reason for our lack of outrage ... WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO !!!

I'm always amazed by the number of great articles on web sites like Common Dreams, but the lack of leadership and action. It's nice that Scheer is writing, maybe he should step beyond that and lead some sort of action. Maybe he doesn't do that because he doesn't know what to do either.

Dear VOXCLAMANTIS,
Where in the hell do you get your information or shall I say your propaganda from ,the movies? Our Native females had a "zest" for torture? Which Nation? Tribe?
After being and studying First Nations peoples on this great Turtle Island I found VERY FEW instanties where Natives tortured people never mind the females. This MYTH comes from the reasoning of the times for without this MYTH it was harder to murder and steal from us human beings.
You see you had to turn us into another made-up FEAR to justify your counties behavior and to make it easyer for your men to rape our females and murder our children and steal out homelands. You in affect turned us First Peoples into savages in your minds and by the stuff your writing you want to keep up those stero-types going .
americans will go to any extent not to feel the creator given guilt that is suppose to stop us behaving in horrible ways to each other. So there is my out-rage and try and have a PEACEFILLED DAY.

I'll tell you why the people aren't outraged. It's all the corn syrup. It's in everything we eat here in America; it dulls the brain and makes us very accepting.

But really..what can I do? I post articles with comments on my blog, I write to my congressmen whom choose to ignore me, I vote for canditates who can't win. If I went out to city hall to protest in the city of Huntington, WV where I live, I would be arrested.

I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT TO DO, PLEASE HELP ME OUT.

Read Former Attorney general John Ashcroft's letter to the President George Bush on the 1st of February 2002:
http://news.findlaw.com/wp/docs/torture/jash20102ltr.html

This letter gives legal basis for the Americans to torture, without coming under Geneva Convention rules.

If you don't know what to do, you can start by changing the status quo. That means not supporting any of the corporate candidates, the democrats or the republicans. This election is not any more or less critical than the last one was or the next one will be.

Now is the time to quit the habit of voting for the lessor of two evils.

Do you think that society is going to get any better as our economy collapses, food and housing continue to rise, and we become more of a police state (you will soon be arrested by either government police or private police, which is better?).

"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." Frederick Douglass in 1857, in response to those who suggested that the great abolitionist was pushing too hard for an end to human bondage.

Words Are Important,

Ok, I've done that. Nothing has changed. What can I do now?

Where is the outrage? Too many people are marching in the corporate generated Obama parade; they feel voting for him will make everything better. In reality it will do nothing. Just about everything will continue to get worse.

Ok so we torture ... whatever ... get over it .. our cousins across the pond and their cousins further east have been doing it for hundreds of years. It satisfies our bloodlust and gives vent to our dark, deep, inner twisted self, our worst impulses are satisfied, our sickfuck mentality is realized fully and our complete apathy and total disconnection with the other is exposed. So ? As long as we have ESPN and E! and all the porn in the world i dont give a fuck.

1. Barrack Obama's wife has stated what i have been thinking and saying for years and that is that Americans are not good people any longer.

2. Where's the outrage? Outrage? Wheres the goddamn revolution? Other countires have endured civil wars over far less than what the Bush Crime Family has put us through with their century long crime spree....

May the wicked become good,
May the good obtain peace,
May the peaceful be freed from bonds,
May the free set others free."
- Prayer of a Boddhisatva

Outrage in the US public over moral issues was mostly destroyed when the country was Reaganized in the 80s. Now, you have a country where roughly half the population, having taken to heart Reagan's redefinition of the word conservative to mean violently aggressive, would gleefully torture a dark-skinned person while visions of various violent, authoritarian police and military TV shows and movies run through their heads. The other half are either wilfully ignorant, distracted by the cop and military shows, or they agree with the torture but just don't wanna get involved. And those few who do care and are opposed to it (mostly middle-aged and older) spend their time getting angry that writers and journalists exposing the crimes aren't also telling them what to do about it. In a lot of countries, people automatically know what to do about it and do. Here, we just fight amongst ourselves while we sit in front of computer screens believing the internet will magically provide the answer.

" May the wicked become good,
May the good obtain peace,
May the peaceful be freed from bonds,
May the free set others free."
- Prayer of a Boddhisatva

The outrage will come when people no longer can afford cable tv to watch "American Idol" and "Dancing With the Stars". When this country plunges into economic depression, and it directly hits peoples' pocketbooks, then you will see the outrage. Until then, even if War Criminal Bush incinerates Iran, many Americans will not care because they will not feel the impact until the price of gas gets so high, they have no choice but to sell their SUVs and eventually, television sets to put food on the table.