Good case. Too bad no one will do anything about it.

And Cheney's oily cabal also.

For prosecutors willing to follow the rule of law, willing to take up Mr. Bugliosi's complaint, their future would then hold two outcomes. One, they'd achieve instant national notoriety, with attendent lucrative speaking engagements, book deals, tenured teaching opportunities at the nations best law schools. And two, the very likely
appointment to the Dept. of Justice under the next administration, with perhaps a federal judge's chair along the way. Doing the right thing never sounded so good.

George Monbiot calls for citizen's arrest of John Bolton

http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,2282155,00.html

Embarrassment, horror and despair – what Carter feels about torture by US
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/05/26/embarrassment-horror-and-despair-what-carter-feels-about-torture-by-us-91466-20973839/

KELMER.... Why don't YOU do 'anything about it'??? People like you are THE problem..... Call your reps - call your congressmen... Tell them and your friends to buy the book!
Send them a copy of this article.... DO IT NOW.
Hope that Bugliosi succeeds... Because if he doesn't, you better get accustomed to staying in a 'touching your toes' position. Forever.

I just ordered this book after reading this piece, and going to the website.

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/video.php

I am so hopeful that this will nudge someone out there with the wherewithal to do what all of us here want, but none of us has been able to do shit about.

Please Lord, translate Bugliosi's confidence into reality.

Shame on you, Mr. Bugliosi. Our commander-in-chief is a good man who wants to protect us from terrorism. Why do you hate America?

I just paraphrased the views of Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and about 45-50% of the American people. In this country, responsibility is a limited quantity that flows from the bottom up. By the time it gets to the top there isn't any left.

Thank you Vincent! What a breath of fresh air to hear this situation so clearly articulated.

(And greetings from someone who worked with you and Al in the summer of 76' on the case from 68'; while working also at the Gov's L.A. office with Jerry and Al).

Speaking of Jerry; Jerry have you read Vince's book yet? This could get very intereting!

By the Constitution: only congress can declare war. In modern times, in a state of emergency, the President may need to act to protect the country. If the President uses false information and seeks to deceive, in order to create the illusion of an emergency, which serves an economic agenda toward world dominance, which becomes a false "war," which then leads to the deaths of thousands of people, the President is obviously responsible along with key figures in the deception. The same hokey pokey is now being used again re: Iran. Yes, charges of murder. A lot of jail time at the least, Cheney and Bush in one cell, striped uniforms, one toilet, no toilet seat.

Charley Reese on the insanity of attacking Iran: http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=12890

OH YEAH... millitantliberal above has pinned the tail on the jackass, er donkey.
The Teflon president and his miscreant sidekick carry-on, singing as they ride off into the sunset....yo-ho yo-ho give me the dough and the power cause we's the Ego's in the know. The 2 Mofo's.

It's hard to want to take Bush to court because he's so spaced out. Sometimes he smirks when there's nothing to smirk about...kinda like an elbow jab in the ribs, a wink and a smirk when somebody's bleeding to death in front of you. He's just inappropriate in almost every situation. He demonstrated this behavior while running for President in 2000 much in the way Richard Nixon did.

A CHICKENHAWK IN EVERY DOCK!

Bugliosi is only selling books, he knows this is an impossible case, it'll never be brought to court, let alone be successful.

Bush received permission from congress to start the war. Case closed. So if you're going to prosecute, you have to also include the Democrats and Republicans who voted for IWR. What about the hundreds of operatives who provide the government with "false" intelligence?

Anyway, criminals start very small and as the crimes go unpunished, they become bolder and bigger. That's what happened to the Bush family. Prescott started with banking fraud, his son saw that nothing happened there, so Herbert moved on to political assassinations, now Walker is committing war crimes. God only knows what the fourth generation will do.

Hey Vincent: you did the impossible, you prosecuted Manson when people thought it couldn't be done. Surely you can prosecute this war criminal bastard Bush.

Wasn't there also a call to prosecute Henry Kissenger for war crimes some years ago?

And we all know how that went.

It's not just GWB that needs to be arrested and tried. Dick Cheney, and the whole PNAC group, the entire US congress and senate, ALL CIA directors past and present, most of Wall Street and the MSM, all present and former NSA advisors and the entire US military command.

The possible charges? RICO corruption, drug smuggling, sex slavery/prostitution, murder, rape, price fixing... the list goes on and on.

Do you SERIOUSLY think this judicial effort will ever happen?

If you do, please share your recreational meds with the rest of us.

Thank you Vincent. fainthope is correct. Where are the Dems on this?

V. Buguliosi for Atty. Gen., ...of any state

"You just don't expect something like this from an American president."

No, but you do expect something like this from an American who lost the election but went ahead and stole the Presidency, twice, after a miserable existence as a failed, alcoholic, moronic embarrassment who still brags about killing more prisoners than any puppet Governor in history.

Here's the ironic part: if the Loonitary Decider ever was indicted, he's such a pusswad that he'd be the first one to offer to give up everyone to save his own ass... and there's no way his "base" would let him live long enough to squeal.

and what about the israel-firsters like lieberman of ct? they are only sorry that the invasion wasn
't immediately extended to syria and iran.
bush was just their stupid, murderous puppet

ezeflyer: I second you on fainthope and Vincent. "Where are the Dems on this?" Probably at the same barbecue with their "gentle friends" on the other side of the isle camparing stock portfolios.

tahoeblue: Right on!

Galen: Excellent points!

RichM: Good points also. Senators care even less what their constituents think on issues than House Representatives. My two from California won't even call me 'collect' when I spoke to the phone answerers.

We sure have a taxation without representation. I guess I'll be buying Mr. Bugliosi's book tomorrow.

ezeflyer: I second you on fainthope and Vincent. "Where are the Dems on this?" Probably at the same barbecue with their "gentle friends" on the other side of the isle comparing stock portfolios.

tahoeblue: Right on!

Galen: Excellent points!

RichM: Good points also. Senators care even less what their constituents think on issues than House Representatives. My two from California won't even call me 'collect' when I speak to the phone answerers.

We have taxation without representation. I guess I'll be buying Mr. Bugliosi's book tomorrow.

Sadly, it IS unreasonable to expect a prosecutor to have the courage to charge Bush with murder, considering the Speaker of the House and the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee don't have the courage to file charges of impeachment.

The State of Vermont should give this man the job.

Meanwhile, Obama won't even support impeachment.

Put Bush in a cage with Charlie.....and then see you you think is more bug-fucking crazy.

"The majority of the American people probably are going to find it difficult to accept that the President of the United States, the most powerful man on earth, would engage in conduct that smacks of such great criminality. You just don't expect something like this from an American president. "

funny, but the majority of the non-american global population DOES expect this from an American President....just read the (non-US written) history of the USA abnd you would see that just about every US President has been a murderer of one sort or another....stop buying your own propoganda,...the USA is NOT the "good guys"

Bugliosi, considered by many to be one of the best prosecutors in the country, in his video statement, claims to have literally laid out a case for a competent AG to follow. If this is so, then it seems incumbent on CITIZENS TO LOBBY THEIR ATTORNEY GENERAL rather than hoping their AG will act on his or her own.

Here, here, RichM May 26th, 2008 12:18 pm you are so right.

No matter how much we beg and plead for our elected "representatives" in Florida to stop supporting the war, protect our civil and voting rights, demand the truth from Bush & Co., and stop the wasteful giveaways to the rich at the expense of the middle class, our pleas are ignored. They certainly aren't "representing" us. Instead of being called "representatives," they should be called "King's courtiers!"

I wish Mr.Bugliosi would help our democratic representatives grow a set of balls and also put a bug up the backsides of the American people to force them to charge Dubbya and the rest of the fatcats in D.C. with warcrimes. But, I'm afraid its just not going to happen. Pity really when you think about the thousands of American Boys and girls and the millions of innocent Iraqi people dying to help a bunch of already rich folks get richer on their blood.

There is a bright side. Bush is terrified of what is going to happen after he leaves 1600 Penn. Ave. Why do you think he and his family bought that compound in South America? He knows the U.S. president will find other dirty little secrets he and Cheney have done, and will be forced to go after him. I can only hope!!!

Let's not forget W's other acts of murder like this:

http://www.crimesofwar.org/onnews/news-yemen.html

...where he ordered the execution of "suspects", no arrest, no evidence, no trial, along with anybody with the misfortune to be in the same car. Of course the killing of suspects along with innocent bystanders, especially by missile and rocket attack has become commonplace in Iraq.

As for Bugliosi's book, wouldn't anyone who helped authorize (Congress) or carry out (Pentagon, military & contractors) these murders be accomplices? I also wonder how many States AG's Bugliosi has contacted or sent copies of his book. Think I'll be calling Edmund Brown Jr. this week to get his take on this.

To donny (5th post), how do you know kelmer hasn't done the things you demand. Have you done them yourself, and what were the results?

Fantastic proposal, but since this country was founded on ethnic cleansing and genocide against the indigenous cultures the Europeans found here, shouldn't ALL of the surviving ex-president (and prosecutors, and Bush and all those who have perpetuated the ultimate crime against humanity) be held for anything?

A number of people commenting here are the leftist equivalent of neo-con chicken hawks.

Always wanting more and more and more utopian nonsense while being too lame to put their own asses on the line.

Bravo to Mr Bugliosi who is doing something real instead of whining.

Your Manson case notoriety will get a hell of lot of people to stop and pay attention who wouldn't otherwise.

Go Vincent go.

True, there have been so many other crimes that should have been prosecuted--On the other hand, I don't think we can reasonably go back and prosecute everyone for everything our species has ever done wrong. What's the saying? "If justice means an eye for an eye, the whole world would be blind." I have learned not to ask God for Justice, because if he granted it, I would also be punished for my sins. Now I ask for mercy, for me and for everyone.

On the other hand, we as a species are sinking lower and lower. What will we condone next?

On the other hand--but no. Maybe it's time we say, like Reb Tevye, "This time there is no other hand!" We have to put our foot down and stop this madness. Maybe George Bush can still do something right, and make a positive change in the world. Maybe he can be the first modern US political criminal to answer for his crimes. And then Cheney can be the second. Let them pay for treason the way Benedict Arnold paid. Let them pay for their crimes against humanity the way they made Saddam Hussein pay. A swift trial followed by execution.

"Anyway, criminals start very small and as the crimes go unpunished, they become bolder and bigger. That's what happened to the Bush family. Prescott started with banking fraud, his son saw that nothing happened there, so Herbert moved on to political assassinations, now Walker is committing war crimes. God only knows what the fourth generation will do."

And failing to order an investigation into the crimes of 9/11 that is serious. Gee, I wonder why?

The supreme war crime is "War of Aggression." Bush is guilty of that.

There was a headline in the L.A. Times yesterday about the upcoming kangaroo trial for Kahlid Sheik Muhammad at Gitmo. The headline was "He Defends the Most Hated Man in the World." The article was about KSM's appointed military attorney.

Can anyone seriously argue that George W. Bush is not actually the person who most deserves the title "Most Hated Man in the World?" I think he unquestionably is.

While we are puffing away on the dream pipe, why don't we wish for the prosecution of Bushco on charges of crimes against humanity for the 1 000 000 + Iraqi dead and 4 000 000+ Iraqi refugees?

It would destroy the career of any district attorney who attempted it, and whatever court it ended up in would throw it out.

This idea is pure fantasy.

However, once he's out of office, I wonder if there are citizen groups who could sue him for the lies..

Continually amused, Edward Kennedy didn't commit murder. It was an accident. Why don't you GOP ghouls give it a rest.

On 17th July, 1969, Mary Jo Kopechne joined several other women who had worked for the Kennedy family at the Edgartown Regatta. She stayed at the Katama Shores Motor Inn on the southern tip of Martha's Vineyard. The following day the women travelled across to Chappaquiddick Island. They were joined by Edward Kennedy and that night they held a party at Lawrence Cottage. At the party was Kennedy, Kopechne, Susan Tannenbaum, Maryellen Lyons, Ann Lyons, Rosemary Keough, Esther Newburgh, Joe Gargan, Paul Markham, Charles Tretter, Raymond La Rosa and John Crimmins.

Mary Jo Kopechne and Kennedy left the party at 11.15pm. Kennedy had offered to take Kopechne back to her hotel. He later explained what happened: "I was unfamiliar with the road and turned onto Dyke Road instead of bearing left on Main Street. After proceeding for approximately a half mile on Dyke Road I descended a hill and came upon a narrow bridge. The car went off the side of the bridge.... The car turned over and sank into the water and landed with the roof resting on the bottom. I attempted to open the door and window of the car but have no recollection of how I got out of the car. I came to the surface and then repeatedly dove down to the car in an attempt to see if the passenger was still in the car. I was unsuccessful in the attempt."

Instead of reporting the accident Edward Kennedy returned to the party. According to a statement issued by Kennedy on 25th July, 1969: "instead of looking directly for a telephone number after lying exhausted in the grass for an undetermined time, walked back to the cottage where the party was being held and requested the help of two friends, my cousin Joseph Gargan and Paul Markham, and directed them to return immediately to the scene with me - this was some time after midnight - in order to undertake a new effort to dive."

When this effort to rescue Mary Jo Kopechne ended in failure, Kennedy decided to return to his hotel. As the ferry had shut down for the night Kennedy, swam back to Edgartown. It was not until the following morning that Kennedy reported the accident to the police. By this time the police had found Mary Jo Kopechne's body in Kennedy's car.

Edward Kennedy was found guilty of leaving the scene of the accident and received a suspended two-month jail term and one-year driving ban. That night he appeared on television to explain what had happened. He explained: "My conduct and conversations during the next several hours to the extent that I can remember them make no sense to me at all. Although my doctors informed me that I suffered a cerebral concussion as well as shock, I do not seek to escape responsibility for my actions by placing the blame either on the physical, emotional trauma brought on by the accident or on anyone else. I regard as indefensible the fact that I did not report the accident to the police immediately."

Some states permit citizens to empanel grand juries, which could be one way to accomplish this. Civil litigation is another possible route to justice, as in the O J Simpson case. However, the Federal judiciary comprises mostly right-wing Republican judges, and look for them to quash any action against their beloved Commander in Chief and political patron. A final path would be to give Bush a taste of his own medicine: extraordinary rendition (a Clinton invention much adored by Bush) to a country with a functioning judicial system. Human rights offenses being ergo omnes causes, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice et al. could be tried in any number of places.

Bugliosi was out of his element and in way over his head on the JFK assassination. His book was roundly criticized and shown to be wildly at variance with the official evidentiary base by the many historians, doctors and other JFK case subject matter experts at www.reclaiminghistory.org. For example, as probably the top expert on the case, Professor David R. Wrone, documented, Bugliosi just made up facts and created solutions that had no basis in fact and substituted those for the documented set of facts.

However, he seems to have hit the mark with this effort. This investigation should proceed.

Isn't that weird, how a guy can write a great book on one topic and then be completely off the mark on the other one?

The Case For Mental Health Screening Of Candidates and Elected Officials --- by Linda Milazzo

"Many supporters of George W. Bush have apparently never observed or acknowledged his megalomania, sadism, immaturity, aggression, recklessness, quick temper, bravado, short attention span, sarcasm, compulsivity, jitteriness, darting eyes, and more. However, tens, if not hundreds of millions have. Such traits are more the manifestations of mental illness than of physical illness. It's these very manifestations of mental incapacity that have brought this nation to its knees. Surely, a psychological pre-screening by stellar non-partisan professionals, or an acceptable pre-screening tool, or a combination of both, could have identified George W. Bush as mentally unsuitable for his job."

How about starting at POINT #1?! I haven't yet read this article,
above, but people really MUST KNOW the following.

"#16 No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11
in Top 25 Censored Stories for 2008

Source:
The Muckraker Report, June 6, 2006, and Ithaca Journal, June 29, 2006

Title: "FBI says, 'No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11'"

Author: Ed Haas
..."

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/16-no-hard-evidence-connecting-bin-laden-to-9-11

I would normally break that url over two lines, but given someone (some
unfriendly Internet user, or internaut) already caused the horizontal
scrolling to be forced upon us, I'll just post the url for it to be
an immediately usable link.

Continually amused is a Rovian plant. Kennedy was set up in the Kopechne case to undermine any chance at the presidency. By the by Bugliosi was the author of another JFK whitewash. Hey Vince, get a ....... clue. This coup d'etat didn't begin with W.. The peaceniks Jack , Bobby and Martin were eliminated by the marauding U.S. military machine before any real detente could be achieved. There is no easy money in "peace". Read Pinter"s Nobel acceptance speech. The "democracy loving U.S. " has been reeking havoc worldwide since the Fifties. Remember the Domino Theory. Yeah, big bad Vietnam was coming to get us and we had to kill several million of them. Now it is the Iraqis turn to buckle under.And of course Iran with NO weapons is a grave threat. Gee, is there no end in sight to the boogie-men who are coming fo0r us. More Weapons Please...

Rich M;

You better believe that even 1 million people surrounding the Whitehouse or their local Congresspersons offices would make a difference. But that would me Americans would have too get up off of their t.v. watching butts and get involved. That's why nothing will happen, the Simpsons are on.

Re: the Bush regime

The idiocracy rules the idiots who "elected" it.

To cancel the book selling event, look for it at the library.

Oswald lone gunman? Enough said. Waste not one second. Left Gatekeeper and intelligence asset? Oswald lone gunman? Waste not one second. Obviously this is not the route. Or at least not the leader of the route.

toubibcal (3:12 am) thank you, you're spot on. The war profiteering U.S. is forever shopping for war, glorifies it, makes movies about it, shows war movies on TV nonstop, and even tries to romanticize it, e.g. George Bush saying he wishes he were younger, he could partake of war because it is "romantic to do so." So why didn't he go to Vietnam instead of hanging around in Texas pretending to serve in the National Guard while he went AWOL, partying, drunk, etc.

Pardon me while I gag.

All of which gets us to the High Theatre Season with such entertaining shows as the Republican Primaries, "…proving that exit polls can be so inaccurate as to be meaningless", which sets us all up for the big upset in November … and the Democrat Primaries, which is highly entertaining … but could anyone not "owned" by the Military-Industrial Complex actually be allowed to win?

I would hope that some people (citizens) could SUE BushCo after they leave office. That might take it away from the responsibilty of the new president and the new administration, who would be concentrating on doing their new jobs.

This is why bush bought his protective ranch in South America - just in case anyone has the balls to actually prosecute him for his high crimes and misdemeanors.