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Why I'm Kinda Fonda Obama (And More So Each Week)
Some of us who like Barack Obama get accused of having drunk the Kool-Aid - or perhaps love-potion would be more accurate - and thus being too smitten by his rhetorical enticements to see him clearly for what he is.
Maybe that accurately describes many of his fans, but it's definitely not me.
I warmed up to Obama slowly, and I'm still rather dubious about what he would actually do as president. Moreover, I found his rhetorical gifts to be, if anything, both overstated and simultaneously a bit off-putting. For a long time, I never thought that Obama was quite the magician at the microphone that he was supposed to be. And when he was eloquent, he raised my hard-earned suspicions about those politicians who can make people feel good with words, whilst deftly picking their pockets at the very same time. We had a president like that in the 1980s, and then another one in the 1990s. It didn't work out so well. (Although it did work out better than the current one, who skipped the rhetorical foreplay altogether and jumped directly to the royal screwing.)
I didn't really start to warm up to Obama until February or so. But I have to say that since then, he seems more impressive to me each week. It's easy to like this guy a lot in a relative sense - which may be why I or others come off as gaga for 'Bama when we're not actually. Anyhow, he's certainly light-years ahead of either of his competitors for the presidency. But, the more I see him in action, the more I like him in an absolute sense as well. I think perhaps he's for real, and I think perhaps he could be a great president at a moment of multiple crises in this country.
Perhaps not. The real danger is that he would settle for half-measures and replicate the behavior of the Clinton presidency (make that one-tenth-measures). He might even be adored for that, given the public's disgust with the current government, and given their actual desire to avoid serious amounts of real change, however much they like to mouth the words. Even if that was all he was, that would still be one hell of an improvement. I think he would have little choice but to end the war in Iraq and to move on national healthcare, even if he didn't want to risk the considerable political capital necessary for pursuing either of these initiatives. Those two changes alone would be worth the price of admission, but you most certainly could also throw in improved relations with the world, a real government in place of rampant cronyism, much improved environmental protection, and at least moderates as choices for the Supreme Court and other federal judgeships. Like I said, that alone - essentially a return to the status quo ante - would represent some very substantial improvement.
I'd say the real question is whether Obama would have the courage and skill to tackle other real problems that require Americans to actually make some serious changes and sacrifices, and that would require fighting some very powerful lobbies. Certainly healthcare falls under that category, but I think Obama has promised that enough now that he could not really walk away from it. But what about energy policy? Global warming? Military spending? De-imperializing American foreign policy? Entitlement reform? The deficit and the debt? The economy? Gay rights? Regulation of Wall Street?
He can't try to do all these things at once, and he absolutely shouldn't. And yet, many of them scream out for solutions yesterday, let alone tomorrow. Obama could probably easily ride out four years, or even eight, and still get away with pretending to address some of these problems, while remaining highly popular. Clinton did it. Indeed, it is quite likely that much of Obama'a popularity would rest on his not seriously addressing these issues. But the mark of greatness in his or any other presidency is the ability to articulate the big issues of our time (and to do so accurately, Mr. Bush), to place them on the national agenda, to sell the issues at home and abroad, to advance the right solutions, and then to successfully implement those. FDR did it twice, with the New Deal and the World War II. Clinton never did - unless you happen to think the V-Chip was a great leap forward for humankind - though the near-term read on his presidency is that it was still modestly successful. Does Obama have Rooseveltian levels of courage and moxie to be something special? Hard to say so far (and, of course, there's the minor matter of getting elected still ahead of him), but I like some of the signs I see.
I like Obama more each week for a number of reasons. One is certainly the eloquent rhetoric. I think that can be hugely important, as long as it's real, not empty. I'll admit that I initially shared the concern of many that Obama was all rhetoric, no substance. And, to a certain extent it's true, his speeches pretty much contain a lot of lofty notions that are about as objectionable as motherhood and apple pie. But the truth is that he's actually used some pretty tough language on a number of issues, including the two I care about most - the war and economic justice. When I looked closely at those speeches I realized that he is saying pretty much exactly what I'd want a progressive politician to be saying. And, to the minor extent that he's not tossing more red meat out in my direction, I have to admire his wisdom in refraining from doing so, even assuming (which I don't) that he is so inclined. He's not going to get elected by banging the socialism drum, or the Bush impeachment drum, or the fairness to Palestinians drum, so why should he? Especially as a candidate, I don't expect him to commit political suicide, nor do I want him to. As they say, sometimes the perfect is the enemy of the good. A perfect Candidate Obama would surely yield a disastrous President McCain. No thanks to that.
Obama's speeches really are quite impressive, and I think it's fair to say that this country and this world need some uniting now, and need some direction too. So I like him for that reason, but I also like him because he's a really smart candidate. Obama seems to have brought the ethos of successful community organizing to electoral politics, just as Paul Wellstone did, and it's worked. In fact, it's worked really well. After a year and a half of campaigning, we would do well to remind ourselves of the enormity of the dragon he's slain. I don't think anyone - least of all the Clintons themselves - seriously expected him to dethrone Her Inevitableness, Queen Hillary, and yet he's done just that, and quite masterfully. They never saw it coming. They blew off the caucus states, and he went there and out-hustled and out-organized and out-smarted them, quietly pocketing the delegates necessary to win the nomination. Moreover, the Clintons have continued throughout the campaign - and continued again this week with her speech in Kentucky - to bait him into overreacting by declaring victory or showing the slightest annoyance at her massively destructive continuation in the race. He won't do it. He continues to praise her and remains gracious to a fault. I suspect that graciousness is a genuine part of his personality, but either way, it's also extremely smart. Timing is everything, and if he declares victory prematurely he risks being perceived as a bully, and throwing the emotional momentum of the race back in her direction.
He's also smart in the way that he's now transitioning into the general election. The simplest way to win this year is to morph John McCain into George W. Bush. It ain't exactly a giant, unfair leap to do so, either, but leave it to any other Democrat running for president to somehow forget. Not Obama. He's been labeling McCain as George Bush's third term for months now, which is precisely the language he should use. As long as voters believe that - and they should, despite McCain's absurd and absurdly late efforts to distance himself from Bush - everything else that follows beyond that perception is mere commentary. Not for nothing is 'change' the operative word of this election. Voters are ravenous for the opportunity to reject the status quo, and Obama is making sure that they have that opportunity by (rightly) chaining McCain to the sinking ship of Bushism that McCain helped launch and keep afloat all these years.
Obama is also brilliant and gutsy to use Karl Rove's rule of attacking an opponent's strength, although in his case it is legitimate to do so, whereas for Rove it's always breathtakingly nauseating when he goes after someone in the cheapest and most deceitful fashion. McCain's supposed to be Mr. Clean, right? This week, Obama reminded us how a decade ago McCain had proposed barring lobbyists from working on campaigns. He went on to note that, "John McCain then would be pretty disappointed in John McCain now, because he hired some of the biggest lobbyists in Washington to run his campaign. And when he was called on it, his top lobbyist actually had the nerve to say the American people won't care about this." For the life of me, I can't visualize John Kerry or Michael Dukakis or the Al Gore of 2000 exhibiting either the smarts or the courage to toss a heater right down the middle like that. Which is why they all lost and Obama likely will not.
McCain would like very much to position himself as above the fray in the coming campaign, based on his POW experience and his supposed clean government agenda. That would be an outrageous gift, and one which it looks to me that Obama is smart enough not to bestow on him. After all, McCain has been very much part of the problem, not the solution, all along. The regressive right and its electoral vehicle - aka the Giant Oleaginous Pukefest - have made a shambles of this country, and it is more than fitting that McCain should be hoisted by his own petard. Yes, it's true that he is not as monstrous as some of them, but he's also far less the 'maverick' (can we please just ban this word for the rest of this year?) than he'd love for you to believe he is. In any case, with the right's record - ranging from Iraq, to exploding debt, to Katrina, to global warming, to a wrecked economy - anybody still willing to call themselves a Republican deserves everything they get this November. And they're gonna get a lot. At this point, they literally cannot even win a congressional seat in Mississippi (Mississippi!!), and that's in a district that Bush won by something like 24 percent less than four years ago.
A third reason I like Obama is because he is reaching people and mobilizing them. That is important for winning, and it will be important for governing too. Participation in politics is off the charts this cycle - at least by American politics' standards - and a fair chunk of that is attributable to Obama (though George Bush certainly deserves a lot of credit for bringing out voters, too, much to the chagrin of his party). Moreover, Obama is raising unprecedented amounts of money from unprecedented numbers of contributors. Again, this will be crucial to both winning and to governing. He has already demonstrated the former, stomping Clinton after her fat-cats had already maxed out and not too many other folks were much interested. As for governing, a President Obama would have a lot of stakeholders expecting big things from him in the White House, people that he dare not disappoint. Equally important would be the stakeholders he wouldn't have. Nice folks such as Exxon/Mobil, Blackwater, Halliburton and the like.
I'm also warming up to Obama, fourth, because I think he's tough enough to throw a punch. It took the Democrats thirty years to figure this one out, but it looks as though they finally have. Obama's not gonna be some robotic Michael Dukakis, talking the fine points of arcane policy prescriptions when he's just been asked how he would react to his wife being raped. A bunch of scumbags in the Tennessee Republican Party have already begun a campaign against Michelle, and he right away called them "low-class" for questioning his wife's patriotism. He went on to say, "Whoever is in charge of the Tennessee GOP needs to think long and hard about the kind of campaign they want to run", and, "These folks should lay off my wife". For my money, that's pitch-perfect. Not only is he ethically right to say these things, and not only is he strategically wise as well, but the plain truth is the voting public wants to see whether a presidential candidate can actually slug it out when it's needed, and they're not necessarily wrong in principle to look for that.
Obama's also not going to play the moronic patsy like Kerry did four years ago, waiting three weeks to respond to the Swiftboaters' character assassination attempts. Both George Bush and McCain tried to attach Obama to Neville Chamberlain this last week - in Bush's too-clever-by-half case, without naming names and then trying to deny the intended target they had already previously made clear. Even so, Obama didn't wait, but rather shot right back, attacking Bush for using national security yet again to divide the country and score political points. When McCain got into the act, no doubt on the direction of Karl Rove or some Karl Rove clone, Obama kicked it right back in his teeth, and once again tied him to Bush's idiocy: "Iran is the biggest single beneficiary of the war in Iraq," he said. "John McCain wants to double down that failed policy." I tell ya, if John Kerry was the nominee, and Bob Shrum was advising him on the way to the latter's tenth presidential campaign loss in a row (with zero wins), they'd maybe get around to responding to these pot-shots by February. Maybe. Obama didn't wait for a single news cycle to go by.
And he went even further, which is a fifth reason I like this guy. He actually talked intelligently and honestly with the American public, instead of pandering to their political vacuousness, and instead of stupidly buying into the right's absurd fear frame, and thus playing on their turf. Obama made the ridiculously obvious, but so long now absent, simple contextual observation about the threat of Iran. Which is that, whatever it is, it ain't like the Soviet Union, with whom Saint Reagan negotiated, and against whom we didn't need to go to war, through 45 years of competition. What a concept, eh?! I bet a lot of Americans are wishing maybe they had thought of that back in 2003. I know a lot of Iraqis are. And about a million more would be. Except, of course, that they happen to be dead.
Indeed, if I was Obama, I'd go even further and use the whole Reagan hagiography nonsense against its perps, just like a jujitsu black-belt uses the weight of an opponent against that adversary. I'd run ads asking "Why is John McCain demeaning Ronald Reagan? President Reagan negotiated with our enemies, so why does John McCain describe what Ronald Reagan did as naive and foolish?" Boom. End of story.
So, Obama had the courage to do something that just doesn't happen anymore in American politics. He talked logically and forthrightly about an issue. That is especially rare when it comes to foreign policy and security threats. He noted that "strong countries and strong presidents talk to their adversaries. That's what Reagan did with Gorbachev. I mean think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela - these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying we're going to wipe you off the planet."
This is precisely the kind of respectful, non-contemptuous, mature, adult sort of language Obama also employed with his already famous Philadelphia speech on race, which was astonishing for a variety of reasons, but most especially because it was the first time in a very long time that a politician didn't address us as if we were kindergartners, unable to think beyond two-dimensional cartoon cutouts of Mr. Good versus Mr. Evil. I'm not entirely sure the American public actually craves this sort of discourse (because, of course, it inevitably leads - horror of horrors - to their having to take responsibility for their own politics), but I sure as hell do. And I'm not sure the American public deserves this sort of honest discussion, but most assuredly the rest of the world does. In any case, Obama is providing it, and it is shockingly novel. And breathtakingly respectful.
Think about the profound effect that alone could have. Four years of that from the bully pulpit could dramatically change the political culture in this country. Even we progressives sometimes lose sight of the extent to which the entire regressive agenda is built on everyone failing to tell the emperor he's walking around in his freakin' underwear. The right have many nightmares which keep them up at night - an end to their greedy feeding at the public trough, having to share resources with the rest of the world, a black man or a woman in the White House, etc. - but, trust me on this, nothing shakes them up quite like the existential threat of someone intelligently and forthrightly discussing policy questions in America. Once that crack in the dam appears, they are finished forever.
Finally, I like Obama because he seems to have some real decency and integrity about him. And, man, is that rare in American politics. From what I can tell, he doesn't seem so psychologically damaged - like both Clintons and both Bushes and plenty of others - that he absolutely has to have the presidency in order to validate his so very fragile sense of self-esteem. He doesn't seem willing to say or do anything in order to get there. He doesn't seem as bogus as a three dollar bill when he speaks to people. He doesn't strike me as a predator who will do anything to liberate me from my vote.
Maybe that's just because he's such an amazing politician that he fools me better than all the rest. I will admit that at different points over the years John McCain has charmed me to various degrees, though I certainly gave up on him forever after his performance at the Republican convention of 2004 and his enthusiastic stumping for Bush that year on the basis of national security. And he's only gotten worse since. Bill Clinton, on the other hand, seems to have mesmerized millions, though he never did anything for me (apart from not being George Herbert Walker Bush or Ronald Reagan), other than to raise my hackles at regressing the Democratic Party as well as the country's general political discourse.
Maybe I'm wrong about Obama. Maybe he sees people like me coming from a mile away, and proceeds to eat us for breakfast. But I don't think so. Neither his words nor his actions nor his demeanor nor his policies nor his background suggest to me that he is the garden variety self-serving politician we've barely survived for so long now. As far as I can see, Obama's got integrity, sincerity and grace about him. How about that in a president, eh? Out of three hundred million of us, I suppose we were bound to stumble into someone like that eventually, just by the laws of probability alone.
Obama looks to me, in short, to be inspiring, smart, gutsy, empowering, forthright and decent. Moreover, I think it is possible that he just might actually be capable of uniting the country, as he claims to aspire to do. I think the country would rally behind him in that effort, bestowing on him a healthy heaping of good will and support, and a serious interest in transcending the massive failings of the current crowd. In this respect, I am much reminded of the hopefulness originally attached to Tony Blair, and his resounding victory of 1997, following 18 years of Thatcherism.
Let us hope that, should Obama win the presidency and win that good will and support, he won't also follow Blair's path in providing showmanship over substance, and criminal idiocy when he actually does do something substantive. I don't think he'd make those mistakes.
In my lifetime I've survived Nixon, Reagan and two Bushes, not to mention Watergate, impeachment, the Cold War, Vietnam, Iraq twice, wimpy Democrats, a cowardly press, and a lazy and selfish electorate. And I've got all the scars and bruises you'd expect to show for those decades of disappointment. Believe me, I'm no Pollyanna.
It takes a lot these days to get me to use the words 'hope' and 'politics' in the same sentence. But I am more hopeful about American politics now than I've been in decades, and perhaps ever in my lifetime.
Barack Obama is a substantial part of that optimism.
David Michael Green is a professor of political science at Hofstra University in New York. He is delighted to receive readers' reactions to his articles (dmg@regressiveantidote.net), but regrets that time constraints do not always allow him to respond. More of his work can be found at his website, www.regressiveantidote.net.

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Show AllMy thoughts exactly; just more articulately expressed.
Hillary Clinton's supporters say they're going to vote for McInsane if Hillary doesn't win the nomination. Talk about poor sports. If they do, they should be tarred and feathered and run out of the country.
This is one time Democrats need to stick together. Usually Dems don't, which is why we keep losing. The Republicans stick together no matter what their party members do, and they win.
Rethuglicans, including Hillary, keep bringing up Obama being assassinated. No decent people would do such a thing. It's their last hope.
We need to get behind Obama and support him in every way. The GOP will try their evil best to smear him and destroy him.
There's a couple of things I don't agree with Obama about, but so what. To quote Professor Green, he's still light years ahead of the other two candidates. :)
Obama lost me once I found out he had been vetted by corporate America.
As one lobbyist pointed out, big business wouldn't be giving him all that money if they didn't think he was a player.
He has been successful at fooling many progressives about his record---they've succumbed to the hype.
But make no mistake on this site, folks: Obama is not a progressive, he is not running as one and he is not going to govern as one.
You have been warned.
The problem for us is, we cannot afford another four years of "Bushism". That's the bottom line. So if Obama is the Demo nominee and it looks as if he will be, McCain will be our next president. Obama will lose to McCain. The only viable ticket the Democrats have now is Hillary/Obama.
What has happened is, as ~lillulu~ just pointed out and is incredible to me, the Hillary supportes by a majority say they won't vote for Obama. That has never ever happened in our history by anywhere near that number. 40% say that and another 25% say they will vote for McCain, that's 65% of the voters who voted for Hillary.
If that number were only 30% Obama cannot win, it won't matter how much money he has for TV ads. Obama didn't win the key states, in fact he lost most of them big time and that's the states with the largest number of electorial votes are. That's not my opinions, that's how it has gone.
Wall Street also likes Obama because he is a great actor. He has people actually believing he will make some changes if he is elected. The only changes he will make are those wanted by his bosses in corporate America.
Hoa binh
Hillary did not bring up assinating Obama, ___that's bullshit ___ stirred up by his supporters and the media. Naturally if they can find, or make up anything by using assumptions or twisting words to be critical of her, they make it an issue, the media then slobbers all over it and then many take it as a fact.
FormerNaderVoter & 1492 --
I think that's what we're all talking about when we say there are a couple of things we don't like about Obama, or that he's not perfect. We know he's not a true progressive. We know that in some areas, like their health care plans, Hillary Clinton is actually more liberal than he is. But he's more liberal than her in some areas, too, and it's not as if she HASN'T been vetted by corporate America.
The fact is that anyone who has a legitimate shot at actually winning the presidency is going to have been "vetted by" and accepted some money from corporations. That's just the way it is. I just have more hope for our ability to pull Obama to the left once in office than I do in our ability to keep the Clintons concerned with anything other than reelection.
KEM PATRICK --
So, should the party be held hostage by Clinton's supporters because they're too bitter (yeah, I said it) about Obama's rise and feel SHE was rightfully entitled to the nomination from the start, regardless of whatever underhanded tactics she has used since then? No, I, for one, refuse to vote for her in the event she finagles her way into the nomination. Yes, I think she would be a (marginally) better president than McCain, but I don't feel like we should reward her for refusing to accept the facts. So what if she won the "important" states. Were I from one of the UNimportant states I'd take serious umbrage at the idea that my opinion didn't matter.
Hillary will NOT win in November. The Right hates her. HATES HER! They've spent 16 years accepting her as the Anti-Christ. If she's the nominee, they'll mobilize more than they would if every state had gay marriage and handgun bans.
If Obama ran as a progressive, he'd never make it. Look what happened to Dennis Kucinich. I'd prefer to vote for Ralph Nader, but it would just help McBush.
Regarding Hillary and the assassination/RFK statement, she could have made the statement without the word "assassinate." There's no excuse for what she said. She's a despicable person.
Besides the assassination comment, her memory is also wrong. Robert Kennedy was assassinated in June, but back then only 13 of the primaries had occurred, so it was still very early on in the process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential
huzzah--I'm from one of Hillary and Bill's "unimportant" states that went for obama. Actually "unimportant" and "went for Obama" are synonymous; we are learning this week that Puerto Rico for the first time ever, is holding an "important" primary because it is expected to go for Clinton. If she governs the way she campaigns, and all her non supporters are rendered unimportant (and I have every reason to believe she would govern that way), we have problems that will never clear up. The Democrats will be done, and unlike the fantasies held by some, a progressive third party is not likely to come fill in the gap, at least not with the speed needed given the world's urgent problems.
He ain't no Dennis Kucinich. Remember him? Nah, I didn't think so.
Well, Lincoln did say you could fool some of the people all of the time.
Most of this was reasonable, but still too starry-eyed for my taste. It boils down to this--Obama might do some good things, he'll probably do some bad things, and sometimes (only sometimes) he talks honestly about issues. And at the moment that's the best you can hope for in a candidate that has a shot at winning the Presidency.
But why do we have to go further and indulge in doublethink when we're talking about some politician that we support? David Michael Green is well aware of the fact that Obama is pandering to AIPAC when the I/P conflict is mentioned, and on that subject he most definitely does not treat us like adults, so let's not pretend the guy is full of honesty and integrity. People who are full of honesty and integrity just aren't going to make it that far in Presidential politics, unless they're willing to shelve their honesty and integrity on certain issues. Which is exactly what Obama has done.
Support Obama, but the last thing we need are progressives who harbor illusions about politicians.
The problem is, electing the Democrats just insures the problem continues. That's the big lie that the Democrats put forth, that they are the answer to the problem.
But they are not, as you can tell when ever since 1992 everyone becomes remarkably frustrated with the Democrats every time they are elected. The reason for that is this mistaken belief that the Democrats are the solution to the problem, which leads to the frustration that inevitably follows when people realize that the same problems continue in the same way even after they've elected the Democrats.
If you love the way the 2007-8 Congress has ended the war, reset the tax code to make the rich pay their fair share, solved our health care problems, rescued public education, restored grants to college students instead of loans, stopped our jobs from going overseas, reigned in Wall St and rescued our economy, then sure, vote Democrat and you can have more of the same.
People of honesty and integrity can't make it very far in politics if the voters are constantly rejecting them for slick spin artists who lie to us. Its our choice which we choose.
Sorry. This article does nothing for me. Mr Green seems to waffle a lot. Make a good Fox news pundit. Professor of Politics. Phew. We are in a mess.
I just love the Democrats urging everyone to support corporate rule. It comes under the spin lie of 'you have to, that's the way it is', but its there when you listen. Nice to see the true colors come out.
Is it any wonder that we are all getting screwed these days when for the last 20 years or more all we've been doing is electing candidates who represent corporations and not us? Isn't it obvious that we have to stop doing that if we ever want things to change?
All states are important ~Longingforinsanity~, all people are important. The fact is however, some states have far more electorial votes than others, based upon size and population. Hillary won those states and won big.
That is the serious problem Obama has. He won states that will mostly go Republican. That isn't my fault, it's not Hillary's fault either. It's how it was and is.
Hi ~Huzzah~ you ask me should we be held hostage because 65% of the Hillary voters say they won't vote for Obama and almost a third of those say that they will vote for MCain. I don't know what to call it, hostage doesn't seem to me to be the right word.
We only know what has happened. I have no control over that, and have never seen it happen previously. It wasn't my idea. I'm amazed by it.
Even if Obama is the Demo nominee and he likely will be, it's gonna be up to him to change that percentage to less than 10%. I don't think he can do that, don't think anyone can, even if Hillary campaigns for him and I don't see her doing that with any real enthusiasm. Do you?
What is going unstated or unwritten again and again it the generational cleave between McCain & Clinton versus Obama. One of the main reasons why Obama has risen so dramatically is that he has managed to thrill post-boomer generations who are frankly exasperated by the interminable battles of their elders while the planet and the nation continue to hurtle towards an ever bleaker future (which the aforementioned elders are either ill-equipped, unwilling to address, or causing for short term profit). Obama speaks about fixing problems while McCain & Clinton are still carrying on their arguments from the 60's.
It's my personal opinion that Hillary with Obama as the VP is the only way we can keep McCain from being our next president and I fully agree we all have our personal opinions.
That choice is not my favorite by a long shot, but we don't have any others that can keep McCain out. Usually it boils down to two options and we have only one to pick. We don't always have an option we would prefer. I can vote for Nader or Mckinney, write in Dennis or Abe Lincoln and feel good about it, but that will only make McCain feel much better if I do that.
The most important issue is, who gets put on the Supreme Court bench during the next four to eight years. And another is, which one will be more likely to pull our troops out of Iraq and leave Iran alone.
"I respect Senator McCain, he's a war hero". The words of Barack Obama.
If any here believe Obama can win Pennsylvania, Ohio, New York, West Virginia, Kentucky, Texas and Florida, along with the other blue states and he does, then I'm wrong with my opinions. If he loses three of those states, McCain will win. I can name five he will lose, that based upon what has already happened.
KEM PATRICK said: "It's my personal opinion that Hillary with Obama as the VP is the only way we can keep McCain from being our next president "
I believe you're right, although I think Obama/Hillary could do it also. People need to move past personalities and realize that the presidential election is, strategically, about power. Giving power to the Dems, at this point in time, is literally giving 'power to the people'. Repubs have revealed themselves to be hopelessly coopted by powerful moneyed interests, many of them foreign. Dems slightly less so: they have to be somewhat responsive to ordinary Americans, after all, its in their charter. Obama is black: and that don't play in Peoria. An Obama/Hillary ticket (or Hillary/Obama) will win the presidency for the Dems: and THAT's more important than any personality contest.
I think you are right too ~Umbrew~ I just don't believe Obama will take Hillary. We'll see.
It is a just and tragic truth that our country always gets the appropriate president. At this point in our painfully slow evolution toward civilized adequacy no candidate whose lips can form the words "single payer health insurance," "investigate-impeach, indict, imprison," "corporate transparency," "UN Resolutions 242 and 194" (and other things that screamingly need to be discussed) can expect to be elected President. One's best hope is that Obama is the stalking horse for a future political environment in which such topics might be raised. But we're living in times when problems are outracing solutions, and it is hard to have much hope for a patient who will not even permit his doctor to speak the name of the disease. Probably Obama is smart to avoid hot button stuff that would provide his critics with ammo and scuttle his chances of getting elected. But ultimately we are going to have to take that icky medicine, and it will not be so much a matter of Obama (or any other savior) leading us out of bondage as it will be our willingness to wise up and agree to the cure. We are extremely neurotic and immature as a country, at the mercy of fear and fear mongers, and as any psychotherapist can tell you there is no progress to be made until the patient is ready to give up the comfort of his pathology. Remember that we remain inhabited by the unclean spirits of the 59 million people who voted for Bush in 2004, and it is these multitudes, not a handful of posturing candidates, who will determine our future.
Putting Hillary on the ticket as Obama's VP is ridiculous and the worst sort of political posturing. Who in his right mind would put someone who had worked so hard to defeat them, to be the person first in line of succession for that very position? Not to mention that many democratic voters do not believe Hillary has anything new to offer. She is a political animal of the old school political philosophy.
If Hillary is put on Obama's ticket, millions will be convinced that our elections are no more than a mass media brand commercial. The Millions spent on competetive media advertising (better spent on solving national problems) to point out the differences between candidates, become a national travesty if the end result is that a politically motivated woman is permitted to VP for a man who says Yes We Can do it differently - Where exactly is the meaning in such a contest?
Obama would be a fool to put this woman behind his back when his existance is all that stands between her and power.
I would never vote for such an obviously manipulative and disingenuous pairing.
Hillary Clinton is a liability to the Democratic ticket, not the asset media pundits suggest.
Republicans hate her so overtly, so undisputably, that there is no way that she would bring Republican voters to the table. They switched party registrations in primaries to vote for her KNOWING that she can not possibly win them in the fall. Notice that she did not win much until the Rebublicans had chosen their candidate... leaving the best political maneuvering for GOP voters to switch party affiliation in primaries to select a Democrat who they could beat.
I wish the talking heads would just shut up and present the records of candidates. Let the work these folks have done - successful or failed - be the only comparison made.
Obama should choose someone he trusts from his core to be his VP - someone who he would trust with his life - and with the life of this nation. After all the life experiences he has lived through - he must have someone more in keeping with his own spirit and beliefs than the woman half of America loves to hate!
Obama inspires Hope. Clinton is a woman who closely resembles the good old boys... and good old boys who are GOP at that! No matter what they say via election desperation - Republicans will never trust her let alone support her. Bring her name up around everyday GOPs and see the lovely impression she has made on them. The media voices of the GOP may say she has a chance, but that is because she guarantees their guy will have half a chance!
Obama doesn't need Hillary as VP. She mentioned the word "assassinate" last week and has also mentioned it before. She's toxic. Hillary's base is in the under-educated, racist, hillbilly, redneck states.
Obama is for what?I have been waiting for him to come up with any real ideas this whole primary season.
This writer getting to like Obama? Again WHY?
CHANGE??? come on every politician uses that old chesnut.
Even if Obama was sincere about change. Just how would he incorporate it? Asked every voter for their ideas? He would still have to choose ideas.
Anybody thinks Obama is ready even for the general election.I would like to sell them a bridge in Brooklyn.
What just yesterday Obama changes what he said about IRAN? Heck I did not hear him say anything in the first place.
And this business to leave Obama's wife out of this election? Come on! While Senator Clinton may apoligise for statements like RFK being asswainated in June. She will be the only one. The Republicans will roast Obama's wife.
Funny huh Hillary gets yelled at stating about RFK getting assasinate ,Yet Obama's wife says she just started being proud of America.
This is CHANGE????
Hey I remember Bobby Kennedy being killed after he won the California primary.IN JUNE
I guess Mrs Obama was not proud when her hubby spoke at the last Democrastic convention,
Or when he was elected US Senator from Illinois.
Does this mean she will not be proud again until Barack is electer Emperor of the world?
By the way I believe the only thing Barack Obama is good at is running for new offices.
He is like Bush he doesn't like details or work either.
Where will the Obama's ranch be? certainly not Chicago. Kansas? lol Hawaii? posibility
But today it might be Puerto Rico then South Dakota lol
So Barack we are waiting ?What Exactly are you for? Do you know?
Another thing There were many other Democrats running for President. Where are they? All you Hillary haters out there. It seems you are actually doing what Hillary supporters are only talking about.
Because you favorite DEmocrat lost rather the Senator Clinton you vote for Obama.
Well then get off our backs. if we vote for McCain ,write In Hillary Or Donald Duck.
You done it first.
Rush Limbaugh is proud of every one of you Hillary haters.
genaman
A winning Obama/Nader ticket, if it could evade conservative's criminal tricks, would protect Obama's life.
Well, it was an interesting dialogue anyway. I'm not sure if the guy loves Obama or thinks Obama has fooled him. I'm not sur exactly what he said because if it takes that long to make your point, you may not have one.
Obama and Hillary could win.
"KEM PATRICK May 25th, 2008 1:38 pm
If any here believe Obama can win Pennsylvania, Ohio, New York, West Virginia, Kentucky, Texas and Florida, along with the other blue states and he does, then I'm wrong with my opinions. If he loses three of those states, McCain will win. I can name five he will lose, that based upon what has already happened."
Kim Patrick is exactly right in my opinion. Unlike many here I believe the majority citizens of our country are a bit smarter than most believe.
Consider that Obama still hasn't addressed the questions of the people he needs to win. That is what really concerns me. What if he doesn't?
President McCain!
That ought to move some of you to consider Hillary as VP isn't that bad an idea.
Mainstay May 25th, 2008 2:34 pm
I wish the talking heads would just shut up and present the records of candidates. Let the work these folks have done - successful or failed - be the only comparison made.
The problem with this is that Obama really doesn't have a track record. Very thin at best. So I'd rather not bring that up if we can help it. Unless there is something I don't know about his experience.
The anti-Obama people keep harping about him "not having a track record." Tell me, what was George Bush's track record previous to 2000? His was one of a failure as a businessman in his every venture.....LOL
Obama's youthfulness seems to bother them also. Wasn't John Kennedy the same age as Obama or a couple of years younger when he became president? I guess a senile old man like McCain is better??
Talk about nitpicking.
"eloquent rhetoric"? What "eloquent rhetoric"? You mean a fist pumping, preacher, hand clapping, facade. Sure, it's better than a cackle, but it's still and empty suit. A political "American Idol" for TV addicted. The empty suit, a good con artist, is supported by the following contributors according to opnsecrets.org Just what will all this largess buy them?
Goldman Sachs $571,330
University of California $437,236
UBS AG $364,806
JPMorgan Chase & Co $362,207
Citigroup Inc $358,054
National Amusements Inc $320,750
Lehman Brothers $318,647
Google Inc $309,514
Harvard University $309,025
Sidley Austin LLP $294,245
Skadden, Arps et al $270,013
Morgan Stanley $259,876
Time Warner $257,527
Jones Day $250,725
Exelon Corp $236,211
University of Chicago $218,857
Wilmerhale LLP $218,680
Latham & Watkins $218,615
Microsoft Corp $209,242
Stanford University $195,262
Obama can appear to play the role of someone who will bring change as he says words in his eloquent manner (which is much better then our current pretzeldent). That is until you listen to his actual words and watch his actions (votes). He and Hillary have almost an identical voting record.
He wants to bring change?
He wants to increase the military budget (what's up with that?). Israel's 'enemies' are his enemies (even if they were legally elected). Energy independence means nuclear and coal (must be some corporate donations from there).
That being said, he is still a big step ahead of Hillary in ethics and character.
But still far behind Ralph Nader is what needs to be done if the status quo is to change at all.
If you think that there needs to be a change, then you need to act in a different manner, and support.
If you are afraid of making the change because things could get worse, let me assure you, things are already unacceptable for many in the world who suffer just so that we could live comfortable.
lillulu May 25th, 2008 3:02 pm
I'm not opposed to Obama, neither am I for him yet.
We are not comparing Obama to GWB, if we were Obama would qualify as Emperor and GWB would be laid off from garbage collecting as incompetent.
McCain is hardly a senile old man...old,
yep...senile, speaking of LOL! Better take a better look at his track record right up to this moment. He's perfectly capable of inserting his foot in his mouth, they have both proved they can do that (excuse me, all three have). Obama at present has about 50% of Democrats as near as I can tell and shallow support other than that. Am I wrong? If so how?
Words Are Important May 25th, 2008 3:09 pm
I would say you could say the same thing about every legitimate candidate in the race as far as corporate money goes. But wouldn't you say we'd more than likely accomplish more in health care and education with Obama than McCain? Wouldn't that alone be worth it?
"That being said, he is still a big step ahead of Hillary in ethics and character"
For my own curiosity, what are you basing that on?
"He can't try to do all these things at once, and he absolutely shouldn't."
Why not? Bush did it.
I believe that it takes a very discerning eye - keenly attuned to nuance and subtlety - to grasp the brilliance of Obama's campaign.
...the revolution Obama represents,
...and who he is as a human.
Someone once said that - many of us could walk by Jesus and the Buddha strolling arm and arm - and never have a clue.
I get that Obama is an "older soul" - though certainly not at the level the two World-Teachers mentioned above. I see him closer to the level of a Gandhi or M.L. King.
He seems to me to be following the path of "make haste very slowly." After all, he needs to bring along a very dumbed-down American public at a pace that we can tolerate, accept, and hopefully, in time, embrace.
Above all, he needs to slowly but surely work to evoke "the higher angels of our nature."
Kem Patrick you have swallowed the vile Hillary koolaid in fact all polls show Obama beating McCain by 2.9 points and Hillary by 1.2
RCP Average 05/11 - 05/23 -- 46.9 44.0 Obama +2.9
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
RCP Average 05/11 - 05/23 -- 46.1 44.9 Clinton +1.2
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_clinton-224.html
The more important issue for me is whether he's for real or not which I am unclear on, what I am quite certain of, is that Hillary is a war mongering corporate sock puppet, a liar, and a sociopath, evoking the specter of the Bobby Kennedy assassination as the reason for staying in the race was the absolute last straw for me, I'll not vote for a Dim ticket she appears on even as dog catcher. Even with Obama alone I still MAY vote for Cynthia McKinney but with Hillary on the ticket the Dims can be guaranteed NOT to get my vote.
"If I loved you...words wouldn't come in an easy way." If they hadn't invented the subjunctive mood for the English language, Griffin could not have written this love-stricken ode to Barack Obama. I don't know when I've read an "endorsement" with so many conditional words per square sentence: perhaps, might, could be, if only, hopefully, etc. etc.: the whole grammar actually of the Obama campaign which is based on the subjunctive attitude of hope. As if we hadn't been exposed to enough of the Bush administration's disdain for "reality-based" policy, we are being asked once again to support a Dear Leader whose ideas are right because he says they are right and, unlike the last DL, he expresses them with such rhetorical excellence, without a bit more "reality."
Like other commenters here, I am "annoyed" with this article, but I am more annoyed with Common Dreams for its unremitting policy of publishing seemingly any piece of love poetry sent its way, so long as its object of affection is the fetish of its own choice, Barack Obama. As the self-styled voice of the progressive community, I should have thought CD, as well as such other voices as Alter Net and The Nation, would hold the candidate to a higher standard of accountability to progressive standards by looking behind Obama's rhetoric and style to the substance of his stance on public issues. CD does wonderful work and is a great tool in the progressive community. It's just that, like others, its great value as an instrument of journalistic criticism goes into neutral when an election comes round and it is felt that the future of the planet is going to depend on the outcome of an election. I don't say exactly that elections make us crazy, but they certainly do throw up logically off-tilt pieces like the one on which we are commenting here.
"the revolution Obama represents". That nuance you detect is subtle subterfuge. It is part and parcel of the voters, i.e., TV viewers, being taken in by advertising. There is no Obama "revolution". Corporate domination continues. Only the puppet has changed.
I remain on the far side of a great divide between me and true enthusiasm for Obama. As I've been commenting repeatedly on blogs, I unequivocally believe &that Obama is far superior in intellect and character than his major competitors. But I might still pull the lever for Nader or whoever else is on the PA ballot in November. Or none of the above.
Unlike Professor Green, I can't find a comfort zone within our mendacious culture. For instance, I still shudder over the recent AP report on Obama's latest pandering to the AIPAC/Jewish constituency, in which he apparently unequivocally repeated that he would not "negotiate with Hamas"-- the democratically elected Palestinian party. I started to e-mail a copy of the report to someone I know who, like Green, waxes enthusiastic over Obama. My subject line was simply "sigh".
To me, there's a circular enthusiasm or understanding that comes if one is favorably disposed towards Obama in the first place. So-- here comes my usual straw man-- I imagine that an Obama supporter would say, "Oh, no! Don't 'sigh'! First of all, in Chapter Seventeen of 'Wrestling with the Angel', Obama goes into quite a bit of detail about his experiences working with pro-Palestinian groups in Chicago. And he quite clearly elucidates a two-track strategy in which traditional pro-Zionist constituencies must first be engaged and reassured-- only then will it be possible to carefully rehabilitate the Palestinian question and elevate the Palestinian cause with true parity!
So if Obama 'seems' to be echoing the standard dreadful and insidious pro-Zionist positions that are unequivocally part of the problem, it's only because he's thoughtfully and shrewdly taking the necessary steps to become part of the solution! And if one begins drawing a negative inference at such superficially-discouraging pronouncements, one is either missing the point, or advocating a status quo in which true reform and progressive politics will always be marginalized! Dontcha see?"
Likewise, when Obama thundered, in effect, that every American rightfully rejects and repudiates Reverend Wright's views-- which is arrant bullshit-- supporters greeted such demagoguery with a wink and a vigorous nod.
One time, many years ago, a co-worker praised me as a "brainiac", and said, "I bet you really love playing chess." In fact, I don't. My lifelong lack of enthusiasm for games and cards may be due to my predilection for anxiety, which overwhelms the "fun" of competition. So it may well be that my appreciation for gamesmanship is dulled or atrophied, such that I can't appreciate strategic and tactical moves in the right spirit. Thus, I'm unable or unwilling to cross the threshold beyond which Obama's actions seem "brilliant and gutsy".
And I frankly resent the Obama-inspired suggestion (aka Straw Man II) that one ought not base one's appraisal on foolish, petty, superficial, self-centered qualms occasioned by a candidate's articulating positions that don't accord with your personal priorities. It's not about you! One has to judge the candidate by considering the context in which the statements and positions are articulated. Obama is walking a very fine filament over a very deep abyss, which emits toxic and ravaging updrafts along the way. Yeah, yeah-- I get that.
Incidentally, my skepticism isn't exclusive to Obama. As I say, it's the mendacious culture that hangs me up. I've drifted away from some political blogs because of the preponderance of technocratic, wonky "received wisdom" in which supporters of this or that candidate would glibly explain away unfortunate or wrong-headed pronouncements by claiming that of course the candidate was running to the center (i.e. right) in order to be elected and govern from the "left". Presumably the astute, politically mature observer would forgive such superficially wrong turns, recognizing them as necessary rhetorical devices to put a voter-palatable spin on the issue.
Yet these same supporters would just as readily challenge critics by accusing them of not familiarizing themselves with what the politician actually said (or published on their website). You don't even know their positions! the accusers would cry. But even as a spectator to these arguments, I would think, "Hmmm... on the one hand, in a mendacious culture we accept that politicians will, indeed must, make equivocal, occasionally contradictory, or outright false statements about themselves and their positions. But we also convince ourselves that we can somehow "know" what the politician "really" thinks and intends. But how can we "know" anything that isn't based on what the politician is telling us-- which we all agree isn't necessarily the naked, consistent truth? Thus, I am epistemologically hamstrung.
It became obvious to me that the above-referenced supporters had made a leap of faith and trust that conferred the conviction that they indeed can tell what the politician is "really" up to, as very much distinct from what they're saying they're up to. It may just be that I'm too skeptical to make the leap of faith and trust necessary to overcome my reservations. And while I'm really not looking ahead to guess what he'll actually do if elected, I can envision a More of the Same administration (i.e. more of the same Obama, not the present Criminal-in-Chief) in which he'll throw progressives a few bones, with supporters continuing to stress the half-full aspects of his administration. He's "really" ahead of the game, I expect to be (condescendingly) informed-- wait for his second term...
David Michael Green,
i agree w/ longingforsanity {May 25th, 2008 11:03 am}.
2 quotes i appreciated...
"he is reaching people and mobilizing them. That is important for winning, and it will be important for governing too. Participation in politics is off the charts this cycle - at least by American politics' standards - and a fair chunk of that is attributable to Obama (though George Bush certainly deserves a lot of credit for bringing out voters, too, much to the chagrin of his party). Moreover, Obama is raising unprecedented amounts of money from unprecedented numbers of contributors."
"He's not going to get elected by banging the socialism drum, or the Bush impeachment drum, or the fairness to Palestinians drum, so why should he? Especially as a candidate, I don't expect him to commit political suicide, nor do I want him to."
so we willcontinue to write letters to congresspeople, demonstrate in the streets (even in front of the white house), educate our friends and family, decrease consumption and continue to let our local representatives (that are more receptive to our voices)know what progressive legislation looks like in our communities (living wage, subsidized housing/medicine, free job retraining programs etc...).
we'll do these things anyway, which president based on their campaign (raising money from mass individual donors and traditional grassroots door to door/mouth to mouth campaign)is more likely to listen to the american public john mccain or barak obama?
it's a simple question.
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one could argue america needs a further descent into 'graphic' fascism (political dissidents, non anglo americans, the poor and sick held in pens like animals), proliferation of gated communities, increased disparities b/w rich and poor.
then there's the more pressing issues of war and the increased risk of ww3 (nuke war) based on bellicose statements from bush, reinforced by folks like lieberman, mccain and l graham.
this descent into complete darkness could compel the masses to rise and overthrow the brutal regime. the faster the descent the sooner we find nirvana after the revolution.
it's a romantic notion, very violent and w/ no assurances it can work - how does that work when the NSA monitors all communications. a political activist can't even get on an airplane w/ out being detained and questioned.
other alternatives, satyagraha - mass non violent civil uprisings that propels the government out of power. could work, but where's the educated conscious activated base of citizens who will lead the uprisings - and again the NSA surveillance model circumvents this change (especially w/ HSA overseeing everything).
that leaves us w/ political reform, using democratic institutions we inherited (for better or worse)including our defunct 2 party system. obama is the best choice as many progressive thinkers and writers have articulated on these pages...do you believe these people are not progressives because they recognize different tactics than our purist friends?
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about nader.............
as i noted on another thread last night.
iowablackbird {May 25th, 2008 3:33 am}
thank you ralph nader for drawing more attention to the obvious, our government has been run by corporate pirates masquerading as patriots.
mr nader you are a true patriot.
which is why i wish you would help the green party capture a handful of congressional seats in 2010. it doesn't have the glamor of being the leader of the vessel, but it would ensure that green views would receive more attention (-instead of the scant attention 3rd parties receive every 4 yr election cycle-) , as the green legislators crafted bills and supported progressive legislation w/ their liberal democratic brethren.
why haven't the greens captured any congressional seats in the past 15 years?
acquiring congressional seats in progressive districts seems like a more 'realistic' task. herculean tasks (3rd party presidency) that are unachievable only decrease morale after the inevitable loss (and the banter that follows - 'see how foolish the general public is'-).
of course a green victory in a congressional race would radiate enthusiasm for green ideas at a time of environmental crisis, green house reps would also put real political pressure on the democratic party, without those seats a 3rd party president is meaningless.
a dem victory in November could bring huge gains in the congress, which gives the greens more breathing room (an opportunity to more realistically capture dem votes, when people are less fearful of the outcome -like the election in '96). more dem seats in congress equals a greater chance to elect a green in the midterms (especially if obama balks on campaign promises)
i admire your tenacity and willingness to draw america's attention to social injustice again and again….i just wish you would reconsider your tactics. if i changed my mind my 'protest' vote would be for cynthia mckinney….
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mrraven500 {May 25th, 2008 3:43 pm}
thanks for the numbers, the other numbers at RCP (concerning the contested primary states mentioned above PA, OH) demonstrate obama can win. as green noted the rupubs even lost a seat in mississippi. i agree w/ your comments.
...peace...
Vote until tears come to your eyes. The system needs to be changed.
"Likewise, when Obama thundered, in effect, that every American rightfully rejects and repudiates Reverend Wright's views– which is arrant bullshit– supporters greeted such demagoguery with a wink and a vigorous nod."
You are exactly correct there. A number of racists and bigots agree with people like the Wright's and Hagee's of the world.
Thankfully they are far fewer in number than just a few years ago.
jozef wrote:
'"the revolution Obama represents". That nuance you detect is subtle subterfuge.'
I would agree with your 'ss' comment, above... but - I suspect, not in the way you mean it. Think about it - no one can win an election today without the support of big business and corporations. Obama is clear on this. You are right to be outraged about the kleptocracy, which has been running the show for hundreds of years. (Remember the East India Tea Company, and Boston Tea Party?).
And, whatever Lincoln felt about slavery in his heart of hearts, he would have been a fool to have directly come out against it in his first presidential campaign.
You are, I believe, naive to think that at this particular time, demonizing corporations will do anything to diminish their power. Growing up means letting go of the strong temptation to "demonize" our opponents, while nevertheless speaking truth, and helping others transcend their denial and fear of knowing/acknowledging truth.
(Yes, we've been wickedly bamboozled and allowed ourselves to be played for fools. More so than even the most cynical among us yet realize. But admitting this to ourselves and others? That kind of growth - for many of us - is a very tough sell).
If there is be an Obama "revolution," it will happen - from the inside-out - as an "evolution."
Aristocracy has been around for some 5,000 years. The movement from plutocracy to community, if it is to occur, will begin to gain traction in our time. But so sorry, will not provide any of us with the kind of "spoiled American instant gratification" we often crave.
See the brillinat David Korten piece posted on Common Dreams today:
"Navigating The Great Turning From Empire To Earth Community."
I'm a Canadian observer of the American Empire. I'm a white feminist, activist all my life, probably more to the left than most on this site and most American sites.
I can certainly understand the extreme cynicism in these CD comments about the state of your 'democracy' and the sorry state of your corporate controlled country. I share your pain. But the sneering dismissal of Obama makes me think that maybe you're all suffering from Bush induced PTSD and you can no longer see the trees from the forest.
There is no doubt that electing Barack Obama as President would signify a paradigm shift in the U.S., and certainly in the way the U.S. is perceived. It would crack open the neo-liberal frame that seems to have a lock on most Americans' brains, as exemplified by the whimpish whining that Obama could never get elected anyway. Many of you are so completely cowed by the right wing that you've internalized their talking points to tear each other down.
Progressives have been losing ground since the early nineties; in many cases, including the last 8 years in America, the extreme right wing has managed to shut down participatory democracy itself, replacing it with strawmen and propaganda. If progressives are to get back on track, we need to reclaim the public forum and our right to participate. Obama is proving to be brilliant at negotiating the huge roadblocks to the presidency, yet for the most part he is using progressive organizing strategies, processes and language. He is offering an opportunity for progressives, a place at the table. To turn away now is a repudiation of all -dare I say it- hope. Unfortunately this is no longer about health care, Israel-Palestine, Iraq or corporate corruption. This is only, but critically, about taking the first step in dealing with these issues, giving ourselves a platform again, readjusting some of the power imbalances and changing the conceptual framework.
I really hope that American progressives join in doing all they can to get Obama elected. Then we can all get back to the real work of realizing our 'common dreams'.
Obama aside, at this very moment human civilization is on the cusp of a new cycle - a movement forward which, interestingly enough, has been precisely predicted by many of the world's greatest spiritual traditions. More intriguing still, we seem to be closing out this era in the same region of the world as it began...
Two blogs above this one - DMG's "Fonda Obama" - David Korten says it this way:
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'OK. I know the question you are about to ask. Hey, you look at me and say "Didn't this guy Korten just say its been this way for 5,000 years. They crucified Jesus and they assassinated Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr. Why should we expect things to change now? Its over. The ice caps are melting. We're cooked."
'Here is the key to why now. For the first time since the first empires were formed in the lands we now call Iraq and Egypt we have both the means and the imperative to liberate our selves from the story in our heads, break the cycle of domination, and live Earth Community into being.
'It is the Great Work of our time. Some of us call it the Great Turning.
'The communications capabilities of the Internet provide the means to hold the global conversation needed to awaken ourselves from our cultural trance and create global alliances for change that bring together people from all levels of society.
'It starts with local conversations that grow and merge through the Internet into global conversations.
'The global scale collapse of social and environmental systems provides the shared imperative to have that conversation, a conversation now already well underway.
'For the first time since our earliest human like ancestors walked the earth millions of years ago, we humans have the means and the imperative to engage this conversation on a global scale....
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'We weren't born with the Empire story in our heads. Its not in our genes. It got there because it is a constantly reoccurring theme of the cultural stories we turn to for answers to our most basic questions about ourselves and our possibilities.
'It got there from the economic, political, and religious institutions that perpetuate it and reward those who serve its values by showering them with financial success and promoting them to positions of unaccountable power.
'Profound social change takes place when an important cultural story changes - and the impetus to challenge imperial rule rarely comes from within the institutions of Empire. Democracy took hold when we replaced the story of the divine right of kings with the story that the powers of government derive from the will of the people.'
"Someone once said that - many of us could walk by Jesus and the Buddha strolling arm and arm - and never have a clue."
If Jesus and the Buddha did that, Christians would beat them to death for the sin of faggotry.
To Samson at 1:14 pm:
Thank you! Enough said.
Professor Green, where is your political analysis? Your essay is kind of like saying, "I like blue cheese over roquefort" - that's about how convincing I find your argument.
Did you point to anything in Barack Obama's voting record that gives you this confidence? It seems that you like his speeches, while at the same time admitting that being persuaded by speeches isn't the best way to form an opinion about a candidate.
Thanks for omitting socialism early on from the equation (with some relief on your part, it seems). However, we don't have a party structure that offers any choice where socialism is a possibility anyway, so there's no point in mentioning it, right?
Sorry, but I'd give you a "C-" for argumentation were I to grade your essay. Do your research; then write. Uninformed opinions are a dime a dozen.
That's an excellent point you raised ~lillulu~. You say it doesn't matter what Obama's track record is, look at Bush's track record.___ Okay, right. And look what Bush has done to us.
~MRRAVEN~ The polls show Obama will beat McCain. The results of the primary elections show he will get his ass whipped in almost every key state. Polls are maybees, election results are facts.
He must win in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, West virginia, Kentucky, New York and NJ. He might take New York and Ohio, but I won't bet he will.