Fat Chance
Modern capitalism's powerful spell means we cannot accept research into world food policy without turning it into an attack on the overweight
Not a lot of people know it, but in early versions of the Atkins diet, Robert Atkins performed some magic.
In the book that launched his eponymous diet, Atkins observed, correctly, that "sugar is the American food industry's friend" and that modern diets were shaped by contemporary capitalism. We are forced to consume sugar not because it's good for us, said Atkins, but because it's good for the food manufacturers. As Steven Shapin notes, there are moments where Atkins' original critique looks rather like that of other systemic critics of the way we eat today, like slow food.
And then, with a flick of his wrist and a twinkle in his eye, Atkins flips all this on his head. Rather than seeking a collective and systemic solution to a collective and systemic problem, the answer to our being poisoned by sugar is an almost penitent abstemiousness, an exercise of control of the will and, well, the Atkins diet. It's all very Foucauldian.
This is powerful sorcery, but we muggle on oblivious. Our culture is geared, as I've noted before, to understanding social problems much more easily when they're presented as individual vices. Today, I saw that magical moment of mutation happen before my eyes.
This week's Lancet contains a letter from two researchers at the London School of Hygiene. They present some very sensible arguments about food policy. They observe that "petrol tanks and stomachs were competing well before biofuels were proposed to tackle climate change," since transportation and industrial agriculture are both premised on cheap fossil fuel. One way to tackle the competition for a scarce resource is to change transport policy - a shift towards walking and cycling would reduce both the demand for fossil fuel, and secondarily mean that there were fewer overweight people, thus driving down the need for food. All well and good.
They estimate that a population of a billion people at a healthy body mass index would use a total of 10.5 MJ through the daily business of eating and living.
And then they throw in this grenade. It's worth quoting at length to see the damage that gets done subsequently.
"An obese population of 1 billion people with a stable mean BMI of 29.0 kg/m2 would require an average 7 MJ of food energy per person per day to maintain basal metabolic rate, and 5.4 MJ per person per day for activities of daily living (calculations available from the authors). Compared with the normal weight population, the obese population consumes 18% more food energy."
It's a straightforward comparison between a billion not-quite-overweight people and a billion obese people. Not that there are one billion obese people. The World Health Organisation puts the figure at 300 million. But it's a figure that illustrates the argument around food and fuel use, and its subsequent systemic effects.
So what's the headline of the most emailed article at the BBC yesterday? Obese Blamed for the World's Ills.
Paf. Just like that. A social problem about addiction of both our food production system transport policy to fossil fuel is transformed into a bun-throw at fatties. Obese people are the problem.
If they are, perhaps we can find some science to update Jonathan Swift's Modest Proposal (subtitled For Preventing the Children of Poor People in Ireland from Being a Burden to Their Parents or Country, and for Making Them Beneficial to the Public). After all, how many megajoules could we get from eating a billion obese people? Loads, I'll bet. And what a substantially smaller burden on the public it'd be if we ate all that troublesome blubber.
But when a diet of backfat is easier to contemplate than a change in transport policy or our fossil fuel addiction, that shows the power of the spell that modern capitalism has cast over our collective imagination.
Raj Patel is the author of Stuffed and Starved: Markets, Power and the Hidden Battle for the World's Food System
© Guardian News and Media Limited 2008
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Show AllIndeed. I've often somewhat humorously tangled with vegetarians on some of the approaches they make. I remember one time on the Cal campus when one such told me that meat makes one "too horny". My response was, "And this is meant to discourage me from meat???"
Yes, humans are from the primate family. But Caroline Casey has mentioned on her show that our social mechanics seem far more similar to those of wolves.
Obviously there are different kind of carnivores as well; most human meat eaters are not insectivores, though the Old Testament does specify kosher and non-kosher types of locust, nor I think do echinoderms and coelenterates appeal to many (thus the nightmarish aspect of a future of fisherman coming up with nothing but jellyfish).
But yes, I had a tonkinese who ate corn right off the cob. And now as I recall, one of my yearlings ate a head of broccoli.
This subject is more of a digression though. I wanted to speak more to what Raj Patel is getting at, which is what the more leftist members of National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, The Council on Size and Weight Discrimination, the Association for Size Diversity in Health and like-minded groups have been getting at. Yes, there is an epidemic of certain health problems, and food content and activity patterns appear to be among the causal agents. So why not just say this? Why do fat people have to be made into walking markers of this chain of events? What harm does it do not only by making institutional hate against them more palatable to the culture, but to non-fat people who are lulled into thinking themselves immune to these problems?
Most of all, what of the research appearing that emotional stress may be the most important causal agent of all in hypertension and diabetes? And what if a program for promoting better health in the adipose population combined what we all agree on about organic food and body-type-appropriate exercise with feeling one's own beauty and power and worth without "goal weights"? That happens to be exactly the idea its advocates call Health At Every Size.
For so long we've been doing this slash and burn campaign; and the sad part is that's not even a metaphor - those exact words are used for what to do with fat people, and increasingly in operation rooms it is exactly what is being done to them "for their own good". I don't think this will produce any different results than those we've all seen. Indeed, I've watched one post-bari friend lose half her weight and all of her mobility due to a malabsorption-indiced syndrome of travelling joint pain.
My only hope is that an alliance will finally come between two factions which have suffered mutual mistrust for so long.
There are many types of herbivores.
Original habitat is also important... whether plains, jungles, etc.
So, we have frugivore herbivores, granivore herbivores, folivore herbivores, etc.
I will investigate your tales of the cats. I had cats for many years and did not see the things you report but I am aware of a site called http://vegancats.com... I assume that this subject has been investigated by them...
We'll see what we can see.
Elfcat,
I just saw your comment but it is late. I'll try to return to this in the morning.
Here is a good clip from a talk by Dr. Mills, the actual author of the chart above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFROlwe-m3Y
Please keep in mind that humans are from the monkey family tree.
I have two things to say.
First, to Raj Patel, it is really nice to see a progressive in this issue who gets it that the negativity directed at fat people is not productive to any agenda other than outright systematic discrimination. Nearly a century of "war on obesity" has had the results of many other social and actual wars: collateral damage, little practical benefit in general, a waste of resources, and a faction which screams of unthinkable disaster if ever we bring the troops home. I look forward to corresponding with this author more.
Now for ItsANaziWorldOrder, INWO writes a list of supposed characteristics of carnivores, herbivores, omnivores and humans supposedly proving that humans are herbivores. The problem is, this list basically says not only that humans and herbivores are alike, but that carnivores and omnivores are alike.
This is problematic because omnivores are alleged to have the same lack of certain abilities that carnivores have, such as a lack of carbohydrate digesting enzymes - or actually, in the exact language written, NO digestive enzymes at all. In the first place, if an omnivore has the same alleged lack of carb digesting enzymes as carnivores, then how does an omnivore successfully get nutrition from vegetables? And in the second place, if carnivores have no ability to digest carbohydrates, then explain how one cat I've had loved corn and another I now have loves sweet potatos. You'd think these carnivores would be instinctively sweet-averse as they supposedly would have no reason to have any pleasure response from tasting carbohydrates.
Also, INWO conspicuously avoids mention of the eyes, which are more often forward-directed in carnivores as human eyes are, to maximize depth perception for targeting, and more often laterally-directed in herbivores in order to have the widest field of vision in order to minimize blind spots exploitable by predators.
As that Jackson Browne song goes, "...Long on hunger, short on joy...this world is not your toy".
"Humans are not herbivores, our teeth are evidence that we are omnivores, and our eye position indicates that we more predator than prey."
Our teeth are evidence that we are herbivores and so is the position of our eyes.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=05zhL1YUd8Q
What is profoundly amazing is that an artificial culture (such as our own temple-based warrior culture) can impress upon its members something completely contrary to all common sense and though evidence to the contrary will be everywhere abundant, those impressed with the cultural teaching not only continue to believe and fail to see everything that disproves it, they will also feel superior to any who are not as thoroughly 'educated'/conditioned. (After all, they have been sanctioned by said culture, 'peer-reviewed' indeed!)
So dear atheist, you'd better embrace Natural Reality (not this arbitrary cultural reality, scripted to accomplish dominance and control by virtue of deception, even deceptions so basic as to relate to one's own anatomy and harmonious connection with the natural world) before the only awakening possible is the nightmare that has been created by this culture of pseudo-scientific minds overcoming natural (ecological) matters.
From "The Comparative Anatomy of Eating", by Milton R. Mills, MD
Facial Muscles
CARNIVORE: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
HERBIVORE: Well-developed
OMNIVORE: Reduced
HUMAN: Well-developed
Jaw Type
CARNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HERBIVORE: Expanded angle
OMNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HUMAN: Expanded angle
Jaw Joint Location
CARNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HERBIVORE: Above the plane of the molars
OMNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HUMAN: Above the plane of the molars
Jaw Motion
CARNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
HERBIVORE: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
OMNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
HUMAN: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
Major Jaw Muscles
CARNIVORE: Temporalis
HERBIVORE: Masseter and pterygoids
OMNIVORE: Temporalis
HUMAN: Masseter and pterygoids
Mouth Opening vs. Head Size
CARNIVORE: Large
HERBIVORE: Small
OMNIVORE: Large
HUMAN: Small
Teeth: Incisors
CARNIVORE: Short and pointed
HERBIVORE: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
OMNIVORE: Short and pointed
HUMAN: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
Teeth: Canines
CARNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HERBIVORE: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
OMNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HUMAN: Short and blunted
Teeth: Molars
CARNIVORE: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
HERBIVORE: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
OMNIVORE: Sharp blades and/or flattened
HUMAN: Flattened with nodular cusps
Chewing
CARNIVORE: None; swallows food whole
HERBIVORE: Extensive chewing necessary
OMNIVORE: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
HUMAN: Extensive chewing necessary
Saliva
CARNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HERBIVORE: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
OMNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HUMAN: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
Stomach Type
CARNIVORE: Simple
HERBIVORE: Simple or multiple chambers
OMNIVORE: Simple
HUMAN: Simple
Stomach Acidity
CARNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HERBIVORE: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
OMNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HUMAN: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
Stomach Capacity
CARNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HERBIVORE: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
OMNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract
Length of Small Intestine
CARNIVORE: 3 to 6 times body length
HERBIVORE: 10 to more than 12 times body length
OMNIVORE: 4 to 6 times body length
HUMAN: 10 to 11 times body length
Colon
CARNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HERBIVORE: Long, complex; may be sacculated
OMNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HUMAN: Long, sacculated
Liver
CARNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HERBIVORE: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
OMNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HUMAN: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
Kidney
CARNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HERBIVORE: Moderately concentrated urine
OMNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HUMAN: Moderately concentrated urine
Nails
CARNIVORE: Sharp claws
HERBIVORE: Flattened nails or blunt hooves
OMNIVORE: Sharp claws
HUMAN: Flattened nails
Humans are not herbivores, our teeth are evidence that we are omnivores, and our eye position indicates that we more predator than prey.
Ignorance is appalling, especially when masquerading as intelligence and sanity.
Humans are herbivores! Leave the cows, chickens and pigs alone! You are NOT the TOP of the food chain... but the end of the line!
Life is a cooperative mechanism... when some part of it gets out of synch and begins to re-script the laws of nature, nature stops playing along...
Today I took another look at Mapquest's aerial views of the earth's continents, guess what? They are only turning browner!
Nature's biosphere is amazing, most humans are going to realize this (since it will be impossible to avoid realizing) when it is completely defeated... we're about 98% there... keep pushing at this ignorance thing and we'll get where humans are demanding to go!
Or, wake up, embrace the facts of your own ecology and live accordingly. Abundance is natural, creating scarcity and sickness are human preoccupations.
http://allinharmony.org
Dr. David Reuben, author of the famous "Everything you wanted to know about sex" book, also wrote "Everything you wanted to know about nutrition" (came out in 1978), a FABULOUS forward-thinking book that pins much deserved blame on white refined sugar and manufacturers who dope up all of their "food" products with the stuff. Highly recommended read even though it's 30 years old now. Lots of copies available on Amazon for dirt cheap.
Btw, Scientific American published a report that debunks, with cold hard numbers, the popular theory that obese people are endagering their lives and burdening the health care system. It's only true of the morbidly obese. People who are overweight, mildly obese, and even moderately obese are, in general, just as healthy as "normal" weight people. And in fact, people who are overweight LIVE LONGER than people who are "normal" weight. Eat that, fat-haters.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=obesity-an-overblown-epid
Yes during the 90's things we not the best in CUBA and the organic revolution started full time. Yes I said imports from the US are high with Chicken being at the top of the list. You can get 20 acres of land for free in CUBA to farm if a small% goes to help the needy. I know organic farming is high since oil base fertilisers are costly. CUBA by its forced way to go organic is ahead of the curve. When the food crises hits the rest of the world they have a system in place that food production will not be as affected. I feel parts of the world that are sucking the oil drum tit will be worse off than some countries like CUBA. The USA should maybe learn a lesson from CUBA as we can see in the store prices jumping daily.
Now CUBA has oil the refinery in Varadero smells a bit but I am sure it will be upgraded soon.
major hutton (or MH)
I don't know where you get your information from but in 2002 an Oxfam America report found that the US embargo of Cuba has turned a food crisis into a sustained recovery of food production. By decentralizing agricultural production,
initiating ecological practices and opening farmers markets, Cuba has been able to turn around the severe crisis of the 1990s. While the World Health Organization recommends an intake of 2,700 calories per day, the caloric intake in Cuba reached its low point of 1,863
calories per capita in 1994. However, the caloric intake in Cuba has since climbed 40%. Cuba has a unique model for agriculture, with land reform laws limiting the size of private landholdings and the government mixing market mechanisms with state controls. According to this report Cuban farmers are also doing more with less, imports of pesticides and herbicides actually dropped from 1995 to
1998, yet food production rose over the same period. Animal traction has replaced tractors in many farms and organic fertilizers and pest controls are used instead of expensive chemical-based inputs.
MH
typo on name MJ, not MH
I travel where ever I want in this world and no President is going to take my FREEDOM to do so away.
You would be supprised how much the US does trade with CUBA but it is a back room deal so the WH can keep its bla bla bla record playing on the evils of CUBA. Also I am not alone in my travels to CUBA as up to 100,000 US citizens travel to CUBA every year. Great place and I hope the US oil business stays out
MJ:
Yes I have been to CUBA several times and make a point of helping the local people when ever I am there. I have also worked with people who live there on different levels and stayed in their homes ate their food and even done some dating while there. Great people who are very healthy, have free healthcare and dental and education. I have used their health system on 2 occasions one dental that cost me 15$ and another 10$ for drugs to help with a little pain etc. The other was a leg injury that I stayed in hospital for 2 days. The cost of that hospital stay was 35$ That is the trouble with people who only know what they are told to think like yourself.
As for a one party system, as many have posted on this web site and even CD itself isn't that what the US has? You can't tell a Dem from a Rep on so many important issues. The people you elect or DIEBOLD elects are on the take by big business to a point that they don't represent the people who voted for them.
As for supporting the military yes I have no problem there at all. It is just illegal invasions I have trouble with.
Are any of you advocating that we voluntarily, or not so voluntarily, reduce our consumption of food to "help the planet?" If so, you don't know how deluded you have become.
Yo Hollow point,
You ever been to CUBA, dude? The people are going with out food. Want to live like that? Did
not think so. What happens when you let a one party system (commies for sure)take over & let the
people not really vote. How sweet our system, with
all its problem, is, huh? Cuba is a fine example of
how BAD life can be, dude.
True, FAT is bad. Hopefully the human race will
wake up one day, with care & repsect for all. Me?
I like beef & all the many good foods we have. Our
present life style needs some changes but makes it
a good life. Ask any farmer, fertilisers ARE a
good thing, natural more better of course. Grow
something with & without, you will see the BIG
difference.
Oh by the way HP, thank a vet or any military
person you meet, they provide you with all your
freedoms & good way of life, food included.
George
your favoright neocon, retired army combat officer
& Texican
1 billion people is used to get the numbers then the real number is 300 million world wide. So that leaves over 6 billion people on the earth that are not overweight? OR 5% of the world population. what is the big deal folks?
This is a no brainer, eating good healthy foods and not being overweight is better for you and the planet.
CUBA uses almost NO fertilisers in their growing operations since for years they had almost no oil. The price of food would drop if the rest of the world followed their lead. You don't have to fill the ground with fertilisers to grow something
Siouxrose-get a canning book from your local library-it's super easy, just time consuming.
sojrnrz-"control your excesses"-those three words could go a long way to solving some of our envrionmental and physical problems.
shenneferh-We are trying to live as you, but in the suburbs, in a small house on about a 1/3 acre. I spend my days doing a lot of the economies that you talk about and the afternoons teaching piano lessons. summer is gearing up and so is our garden. I swap children's clothes and visit local thrift shops (I don't WANT to buy new if I can avoid it). We also save up for big purchases, saving helps seperate the chaff from the wheat, so to speak.
siouxrose-your comment about your kids and the lifestyle they grew up with rings true. Ours are currently all still under 18 and the teenager does express her distaste from time to time, but I think growing up with a reasonable lifestyle means hard times won't affect their minds as much as other kids. And that when/if the time comes, they'll have the tools necessary to adapt and survivie in a changing world.
The Buddha (and the other yogis) used to try to enlighten us lesser dim bulbs with regard to unlimited appetite. This comes in many forms. A limited, basic understanding came to me when I was about 12 years old, and has stayed with me the 50 years since. You can sum it up in three words, "Control your excesses." I guess the very bottom line is that overpopulation has already begun to turn our planet into a toilet, and an overweight population is just one visual manifestation of the underlying problem.
heh "You can't buy a Columbia jacket for $3. it is fake...."
define fake;
fake as in not the same materials as in cloth metal string etc.
or fake as in the same item at real costs plus small profit as opposed to the corporate logoed same item at hugely inflated, ego aimed prices?
" hey I got these new sun glasses.. they are worth 600$."
I replied " no , You paid 600$ for a pair of sun glasses with a logo on em, same pair without that logo ,is worth about 40$"
You can't buy a Columbia jacket for $3. It is a fake, or stolen. Asian countries produce cheap copies of everything but they are not the real article. They look the same but they are fakes....
SHENNERFER: Lovely lifestyle! I am similar. As a writer, I bought a little mobile home on a quarter acre and since it's such a low status item, the cost was mimimal and the benefits: daily bike rides into the springs of a state park, no noise, little stress, the time to write and contemplate (and now share nature's wonders with my grandson). My food costs are minimal, and I finally planted fruit trees and am beginning a vegetable garden. I would lOVE to know how to can as you do. I, too, came to realize as a single mother with 2 daughters to support that we would do without fancy car/clothes/housing and PRIZE the time we had to do what we wanted and needed to do. For me, that is freedom. I gave up TV a while ago and find name brand great clothing at consignment shops, same for furniture and just about everything else (or flea markets).
My children initially resented these frugal strategies but now as they see gas prices rising, and without overly alarming them, I share that I believe a SERIOUS recession is coming... seems to me that the powers will phase out products little by little, then there will be lines for gas, and people will be forced to consume and use less. Those of us "already there" have a head start... the benefit is in giving Earth Mother a rest, so that her ecosystems, truly parts of her distressed body, can begin to heal.
For about a decade now, since reading "Fatal Harvest", I've been actively removing myself from the corporate food chain, both figuratively and literally.
I'm not a farmer, I'm an artist with an acre of land and a tiny house. On that mini-"farm" I raise my own chickens- both for eggs and the true riches- their manure- I raise my own veg [including sweet potatoes], and I raise berries, apples, and greens [this year's experiment- grain in the form of amaranth]. My spouse works to bring in the money for the bills and taxes.
We get together with four or five other families and we pool our resources to buy a 1/2 cow's worth of high-quality pure organic beef straight from the Amish farmer who raised it, then divvy it up at a cost of about 2.50/ lb. [a bit more, now]. I can my own jellies and preserves [don't have a pressure cooker yet for the veg], and freeze everything else. When I cook something, I make a huge batch and freeze the extra, that's my "convenience food", and it's all excellent "slow" food, which increases over time because I do that once a week.
I barter- paintings for massage [fibromyalgia makes for a lot of pain]- eggs, green beans, or jelly for handmade pottery, herbalism and reiki for books and music. We know most of our neighbors, and have a wide circle of friends both locally and abroad. We don't have a lot of cash, but we save up for the things I want- I cut up all my credit cards three years ago. Remember sending away for something out of the back of a comic book when you were a kid, and having to wait six weeks for it? Saving up to buy a new cookpot, or a lawnmower, or a set of glasses, makes every purchase a treat. And it makes every purchase something to mull over- no impulse buying. We don't waste much, either, and fix things if they break. We buy the best of whatever we do buy, so that it will last.
I learned the mindset that brought me to this lifestyle from my Depression Grandma- she taught me how to live frugally and well. Being an artist and [formerly] single mom, it might as well have been Divine Guidance in terms of survival skills, over the years, but long ago it became quality of life as much as anything else.
There is so much more nutrition in a green bean from your garden than the ones in the supermarkets that you eat less and enjoy it more. There is so much satisfaction in the bright orange standup yolks of my hens' eggs, and the deliciousness of them, compared to the washed out, yellow, flattened yolks of the flavorless month-old eggs in the supermarket. And the lemon/honey-flavored dandelion syrup on my crepes on a Sunday morning is something you can't buy anywhere.
I decided long before this worldwide food crisis began that the quantity of money one has is a very poor measure of the quality of life one can attain to. I also decided that while fiscal solvency is a wonderful thing, the ability to make something out of nothing is a much better skill. When my kids' dad dissolved our family, all he had was money and his profligate style, and in the long run, I've prospered much more than he has.
We in the US need to remember that this crazy unsustainable way of conducting our lives is a recent development. The 3,000 mile salads, the clothing made in sweatshops half a world away for the sake of a middleman's profit [a friend who went to Thailand bought a Columbia jacket for $3 on the street there], the exportation of our manufactories and our skill sets and training for the sake of someone else's corporate profits- all these things are destructive to the quality of life so many desperately seek. And most of these developments began in the 80s, with deregulation and the breaking of unions and shipping jobs overseas. Just shy of three decades- a generation and a half- and the mighty nation of our grandparents has lost all of its self-reliance, know-how, and moral standing to simple greed and wastefulness.
I value the time I have left on this planet. I spend it making the necessities of our lives in the best way I can- food, clothing, fixing up the house that is our shelter, making enough money to pay the bills and the taxes, but also having time for living. Instead of working for more and more cash to pay for cheap meaningless things that others have made- too often badly- we work on things that take some more time and are made well- and just the way we like. The little "boughten" luxuries in our life become more special, and while they're fun and enjoyable perks, it's actually the way we spend our time that gives us happiness.
Our Depression Grandmothers understood all that stuff.
I think there's a lot of wisdom there.
I loved reading Swift's proposal when I was in high school. Blaming the obese is a ridiculous conclusion. Change transportation habits, bodies change. Change the type of food people eat, bodies change. Change the education people receive and bodies change...feel free to add your own
Fat chance of OVERPOPULATION being attacked. We need to address the root of 90% of the problems our species is creating for ourselves & the rest of the living beings on this planet. The rest of the 10% of problems we have include greed & lack of education even in the affluent West to act in a rational way, or consider self-restraint for the sake of the future.
Yo boo,
Problem is most humans are self center me first only.
Sacrifice! What does that mean? One world government is
what is needed. This tribe - nation - has to go, start
thinking there is ONLY one Race = the Human race.
Now even in the UN it is really each nation on it on.
The waste in the western nations is understated. I grew
17 acres of sweet potatoes = American house wife would only
buy a certain size (others too big or too little - no sale)
and so much for cattle food. Had 5 acres out of 17 wasted.
Put a notice in the local newspaper - FREE sweet potatoe,
yep you guess it - too lazy to pick them up.
So the problem is with us - you and me - human beings
not care about others here, overseas, what do you think?
Those people, don't know them, heck with them attitude.
Mr/Mrs/MS small businessperson speak up. Vote! Tell others
to eat less, help everyone & work for a one world government
or we will always have problems.
chow,
George
your favoright neocon, retired army combat officer & Texican
Ignorance knows no bounds.
Right on the money lexington. This issue is about more then the price of seed, its about the price of transport as well.
And let's not forget speculation, that oh so idiotic economic engine that gave us the mortgage crisis in america, high oil prices, and I strongly suspect high food prices as well. As a small businessperson in the food industry, this is killing me...
You can get to the lancet article here
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140673608607163/fulltext
but I think you have to register
The Lancet 2008; 371:1661
Correspondence
Transport policy is food policy
Phil Edwards and Ian Roberts