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Democrats Position For War Funding Approval
WASHINGTON - The House kicked off a partisan debate Thursday on a Democratic plan to sharply boost education benefits for Iraq-Afghanistan veterans as the price for approving President Bush's long-stalled request for war funding.
People whose unemployment benefits have run out would also get a 13-week extension.
The Democratic plan would impose a surtax on individuals with incomes above $500,000 to pay for the 10-year, $52 billion cost of boosting the GI Bill to try to provide Iraq veterans with college educations. Couples would pay the tax on income exceeding $1 million.
"We are talking about people who are making over $1 million to pay a small sacrifice for this war where our military families are paying a huge sacrifice," said Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill.
Senators in both parties, however, were balking at the one-half of a percentage point increase in tax rates. At the same time, Republicans and business groups said the plan amounts to an increase in taxes on small businesses that pay taxes at the same rates as individuals.
GOP Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin said the Democratic bill "would bust the budget with billions in nonemergency spending but also raise taxes on small business. I can't think of a worse time to implement a tax increase with a weak economy that is struggling to create and grow jobs."
The war spending would provide $163 billion for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan into next year. But Democrats are focusing more on their add-ons, especially the big increase in the GI Bill and extension of unemployment insurance for people whose benefits have run out.
The two items, along with proposed restrictions on Bush's ability to conduct the war in Iraq, have led the White House to promise to veto the measure.
The White House weighed in with an official veto promise Thursday that also attacked the Democratic plan for increasing taxes.
"The president has been clear that tax increases are unacceptable," the White House statement said.
The tax increase on wealthier people was inserted after moderate House Democrats demanded the bill comply with budget rules that require new benefit programs to be "paid for" with accompanying revenue increases or spending cuts.
The new GI Bill essentially would guarantee a full scholarship at any in-state public university, along with a monthly housing stipend, for people who serve in the military for at least three years. It is aimed at replicating the benefits awarded veterans of World War II.
The House measure also includes money for foreign aid and military construction projects as well as flood protection around New Orleans and a variety of smaller items. All that brings the total spending to $183.7 billion.
Taken together, the changes to Bush's war requests probably are not sufficient to provoke a veto on their own. The same cannot be said of Democrats' plans to extend unemployment benefits or improve the GI Bill.
Besides the GI benefits, Democrats have tacked on a plan to give 13 more weeks of unemployment checks to people whose benefits have expired and 13 weeks beyond that in states with especially high unemployment rates.
Bush also has threatened to veto any bill that ties his hands on Iraq. The House measure would require Bush to begin pulling out troops from Iraq within 30 days once the bill becomes law, with a nonbinding goal of a complete withdrawal of combat troops within 18 months. Senate Republicans are expected to block the provision.
Democrats are bringing the bill to the full House under an unusual process in which it is broken into three separate pieces for votes in the House and Senate: war money, anti-war policy provisions and domestic spending.
The idea is to allow anti-war Democrats to vote against the war money - which Republicans will provide the votes to pass - while ensuring the money goes out to support troops overseas.
Democrats would get to vote for restrictions on the war, but the provisions would never make it through the Senate to face a veto. Republicans would have to decide whether to stick with Bush in a difficult vote on extending unemployment insurance and passing the new GI Bill.
Also Thursday, the Senate Appropriations Committee planned a vote on its version of the war spending.
© 2008 Associated Press



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OUT NOW. OUT NOW. OUT NOW.
Go ahead, Democrats. Keep on funding the genocide in Iraq. Attach a few crumbs to make the bill 'palatable'. Fascists. No one in this country wants this to continue. You are out of touch, in on the take, or being blackmailed. There can be no other explanations.
Bush refuses to even provide adequate health care for veterans, why in the world would anyone think he would agree to educate them?
It's a disgrace that they give so much and we give so little back. The WWII GI bill created a vibrant middle class, which is now disappearing.
kathyodat
hamster, give it up. No one is listening in Congress. Look at Pelosi's face in that picture. Scary.
...and what are we getting in return for our taxes/sacrifice/life/liberty/rights?
sounds like high crimes and misdemeanors all around.
guess it's lucky for them that we aren't a democracy.
Pull the troops out of Iraq and cut the military budget in half; then there'd be plenty of money to do all kinds of useful things.
...we aren't even a republic any more.
Look at those teo idiotic smiling hosebags....two peas in a pod...seems the Dems have fully bought into the eternal warfare of global corporatism
The picture attacked to the article is scary. Ms. Pelosi looks like a witch.
All I can say about bush is "That one may smile and smile and be a villain"
Somebody help me out, is that Ulysses S. Grant in the background?
With $163 billion going to Iraq and Afghanistan, it puts a nice little vice around Iran. Since bush will veto any bill that restricts his use of military personnel in Iraq, he is enabling himself to attack Iran. The requirement to withdraw troops will be "blocked by senate republicans". OF COURSE! If there were 99 democratic senators and 1 republican, he/she would still be able to block any vote. The democratic congress is nothing but a group of do-nothing bobbleheads.
The thing that gets me is that whenever you see Pelosi and Bush together, she always has this giant grin on her face. Makes me wonder if she has a crush on Bush. She always seems to be fawning over him.
elmysterio: She's cute for an old gal! Its the pictures of Cheney that give me the creeps.
Free propaganda translation of the day:
White house flack sez: "The president (sic) has been clear that tax increases are unacceptable."
Reality: "The fuehrer's sidekick has been clear that ANY social spending is unacceptable."
Public money may flow only to private corporations. The day of tripe like the G.I. Bill and unemployment insurance has passed.
Back to business, how can you bust a budget that is already busted beyond belief?
America sent working middle class jobs to China. America sent the troops to Iraq. America owes these folks the unemployment extension and the GI Bill.
Goebbels:
Which one is the sidekick and which one is der fuehrer?
BeForKids,
Some say I am too "biased" against Pelosi ever since she's been helping buddy Bush continue his agenda, and I cannot glance at her picture for more than two seconds without my stomach churning. What a fiend!
I'm glad others view her similarly. Unbelievable!
Come to think of it. Madam Speaker is a real life "Manchurian Candadate." Has she had cosmetic surgery or been "under the knife" in the past two years?
Pelosi always smiles when she's with Bush. Maybe she likes the guy.
It is clear that Pelosi is running both the show, and get ready folks, OBAMA.
Maybe someone told a Clinton joke?
He seems like quite jovial.
Nancy Pelosi is nearing 70 and there's not one grey hair on her (dyed) head. She recently had her teeth whitened and was giving big smiles to show them off. With her botox and/or face lifts, she believes she's a movie star.
She should be put out to pasture instead of hanging around flirting with Bush.
Get the truth about what happened on 9/11 at the Pentagon on airamericaradio.com tonight at 9 PM Eastern..The Clout show..EYE WITNESSES...Live stream. A plane did not hit the Pentagon!
If you really want to know why this crap continues no matter which party is in power see the documentary From Freedom to Fascism. It is on Google.com or you can rent it from Netflicks. I felt after watching it like I'd been punched in the stomach but it is probably better to understand exactly what we are up against than to kid ourselves. I thought I knew the worst but this is even worse than I had thought.
!!!!!!BREAKING NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!
The House just voted down the Iraq funding bill!! 141 to 149! It's a long story, but the Repugs beat Pelosi at her own game. Now it's off to the Senate!
Goebbels, you accurately note:
"Reality: "The fuehrer's sidekick has been clear that ANY social spending is unacceptable."
Public money may flow only to private corporations."
Yes, any social spending is unacceptable --- and public money only flows to the private/corporatist 'feeding trough'.
In fact, in Al Gore's newest and radically revolutionary political book, "The Assault on Reason", he very bluntly states that our country has been totally taken over by a "radical right-wing corporatist 'faction', which holds in utter contempt the very concept that there even exists such a thing as 'the public interest'".
My only bone with Gore's assessment is that he merely calls this a "corporatist 'faction'" --- whereas, I call it a 'corporatist Empire', which is hiding behind the facade of this two-party 'Vichy' American government.
Come to think of it --- that's the real reason why Bush and Pelosi are smiling --- they represent both side of this friggin 'Vichy' government fronting for the same corporatist Empire. They're not just smiling --- they're laughing at us!
!!!!!!!MORE BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!
The Senate just voted almost unanamously (sp) to overturn the FCC media consolidation rules!
It feels so good to win this one!! Now it's off to the House.
P.S. Of course, the current resident has threatened to veto.
Only FOOLS would be surprised see the Dems continue funding, yet again, this war. (after all without their complicity this war couldn't have started in the first place).
And in my opinion only FOOLS support Obama/Clinton because they are part of the complicit party.
George does not look so good. I think maybe a nervous breakdown is in the works, maybe he is even slipping into insanity---the kind that will start to show when he begins to sing "God Bless America" while giving the finger during a state of the union speech.
That chimp-like gait of his is symptomatic of something. Maybe he has a backache, or maybe regression is setting in.
Starofthesea, 'From Freedom To Fascism' was on Free Speech TV. Excellent film!
The plan was set in motion at least forty years ago. We are now beginning to see the initial stages of it's fruition. They are united and have set goals. Progressives/liberal can hardly get along with each other and agree on a plan of action. The main reason we also lose. It's not rocket science.
Citizen 1: No disagreement here!
Willybill: We never did see the film footage, did we? And thanks for the info!
On second thought, maybe we've been too hard on beauty parlor Nancy and the coward-in-chief. Both of them smiling with not a care in the world...they are the epitome of true bipartisanship.
And people had the nerve to ridicule Ralph Nader in the 2000 election when he spoke out against the one-party duopoly.
for nancy:
http://www.petitiononline.com/everyman/petition.html
Nietzsche, LOL
Poor George and his simian smile.
The US Defense Dept and its backers are turning this country into something that's not worth defending.
Nietzsche
Bush might be slipping into insanity? Aren't you being far too generous?
Rebel Farmer
What do you make of all those 'Present' votes?
All you Obama supporters should watch very closely how your candidate votes on this.....All you Clinton supporters should already know that she will vote to continue this horrid little War for Profit....
With each passing day Nancy Pelosi looks more and more like Michael Jackson. . . except that maybe he's whiter.
WmC May 16th, 2008 8:22 am
Good observation.
presence May 16th, 2008 1:34 am
The reality is these freaking politicians don't care about freaking 4000 signatures. Vote all of them out, if you can.
Join the "anybody but the two parties" movement.
Anyone see today's story on the outcome of this?
The Republicans got mad at Pelosi, and voted with the minority of Democrats who are actually antiwar. This defeated the war funding (for now ... its only temporary).
But the fascinating part is the quotes from the Dem leadership in the articles. They reveal just how mad they are that the war funding did not pass. These articles really show the true colors of the Dem leaderships (Pelosi, Hoyer, and Emmanual). These people are committed to funding this war, and are truly pissed off that the Republicans and a handful of anti-war Democrats blocked them.
Amazing stuff.
Go Cindy!
Nancy Pelosi, and the Democrats sold out America. Fire Nancy Pelosi, Cindy Sheehan for Congress.www.cindyforcongress.org.
contact anyone you know in san francisco and encourage them to vote Cindy Sheehan for congress in upcoming elections...time to throw this witch out of office.
"GOP Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin said the Democratic bill "would bust the budget with billions in nonemergency spending but also raise taxes on small business. I can't think of a worse time to implement a tax increase with a weak economy that is struggling to create and grow jobs."
Of course! That's only logical since, according to the Republicans, the 2000 expanding economy was the perfect time to implement tax cuts for the wealthy to cool the economy and the recession of 2001 was also the perfect time for those same tax cuts to revive the economy. If its always the perfect time for tax cuts, how can it ever be a good time to increase taxes? (Although one does wonder; how hard a time someone who is making 1,000,000 is having finding a job ...)
Different subject: I'm no Pelosi fan but, guys, grow up! She's smiling! BFD! What's she supposed to do? Glare at Bush every time she's in the same room? Stick out her tongue? Make faces? There is a lot to criticize about "Off the table" Pelosi but the amount of comments about her smiling is really ridiculous!
So, this is another cynical ruse by war criminals in congress, headed by House Speaker Nancy Palosi, and stage managed by Rep. Rahm Emanuel, who with a dual US-Israel citizenship and head of the Democratic Caucus, and previously ran the Congressional Campaign Committee that denied funds to antiwar candidates running in the primaries, in favor of hawks. And less we forget the rabid meddling of AIPAC and the warmongering for profits, US Military Industrial-Complex, with combine with the mass media mind fuck, to perpetuate eternal wars of aggression, with parallel interest by the oil and energy magnets. Together they comprise "The War Machine" a proven enemy of the US Constitution and all of humanity, save the super-rich insane few!
I am against the GI educational ploy, it is an inducement to sucker fools into the military. And what is worse, is waiting in the wings. The reenactment of The Compulsory Military Draft - H.R. 393
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services
It is my considered opinion, that it would be passed on voice vote late at night after the November election, in another "Christmas Tree" package of "Guns and Butter" goodies, that will survive conference, and passed to the lame-hawk in the white house, and be law, for the new designated war criminal to enforce as the cheaper route for imperial wars.
If they do that, they will need martial law, for this place will be in a state of rebellion, and when rebellion triumph, they are, a REVOLUTION!
Please help oppose the endless cave-ins of this fake "Democratic" congress.
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Anyone with dual citizenship should not be allowed to hold office in the U.S. as their loyalty is obviously compromised. That would include Joe Lieberman, Rahm Emanuel, and a host of other people too numerous to mention.