There is direct evidence that President George W. Bush did not honorably lead this nation, but deliberately misled it into a war he wanted. Bush and his administration knowingly lied to Congress and to the American public -- lies that have cost the lives of more than 4,000 young American soldiers and close to $1 trillion.
A Monumental Lie
In his first nationally televised address on the Iraqi crisis on October 7, 2002, six days after receiving the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), a classified CIA report, President Bush told millions of Americans the exact opposite of what the CIA was telling him -a monumental lie to the nation and the world.
On the evening of October 7, 2002, the very latest CIA intelligence was that Hussein was not an imminent threat to the U.S. This same information was delivered to the Bush administration as early as October 1, 2002, in the NIE, including input from the CIA and 15 other U.S. intelligence agencies. In addition, CIA director George Tenet briefed Bush in the Oval Office on the morning of October 7th.
According to the October 1, 2002 NIE, "Baghdad for now appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional or CBW [chemical and biological warfare] against the United States, fearing that exposure of Iraqi involvement would provide Washington a stronger case for making war." The report concluded that Hussein was not planning to use any weapons of mass destruction; further, Hussein would only use weapons of mass destruction he was believed to have if he were first attacked, that is, he would only use them in self-defense.
Preparing its declassified version of the NIE for Congress, which became known as the White Paper, the Bush administration edited the classified NIE document in ways that significantly changed its inference and meaning, making the threat seem imminent and ominous.
In the original NIE report, members of the U.S. intelligence community vigorously disagreed with the CIA's bloated and inaccurate conclusions. All such opposing commentary was eliminated from the declassified White Paper prepared for Congress and the American people.
The Manning Memo
On January 31, 2003, Bush met in the Oval Office with British Prime Minister Tony Blair. In a memo summarizing the meeting discussion, Blair's chief foreign policy advisor David Manning wrote that Bush and Blair expressed their doubts that any chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons would ever be found in Iraq, and that there was tension between Bush and Blair over finding some justification for the war that would be acceptable to other nations. Bush was so worried about the failure of the UN inspectors to find hard evidence against Hussein that he talked about three possible ways, Manning wrote, to "provoke a confrontation" with Hussein. One way, Bush said, was to fly "U2 reconnaissance aircraft with fighter cover over Iraq, [falsely] painted in UN colors. If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach" of UN resolutions and that would justify war. Bush was calculating to create a war, not prevent one.
Denying Blix's Findings
Hans Blix, the United Nation's chief weapons inspector in Iraq, in his March 7, 2003, address to the UN Security Council, said that as of that date, less than 3 weeks before Bush invaded Iraq, that Iraq had capitulated to all demands for professional, no-notice weapons inspections all over Iraq and agreed to increased aerial surveillance by the U.S. over the "no-fly" zones. Iraq had directed the UN inspectors to sites where illicit weapons had been destroyed and had begun to demolish its Al Samoud 2 missiles, as requested by the UN. Blix added that "no evidence of proscribed activities have so far been found" by his inspectors and "no underground facilities for chemical or biological production or storage were found so far." He said that for his inspectors to absolutely confirm that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction (WMD) "will not take years, nor weeks, but months."
Mohamed ElBaradei, the chief UN nuclear inspector in Iraq and director of the International Atomic Energy Agency, told the UN Security Council that, "we have to date found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapon program in Iraq."
The UN inspectors were making substantial progress and Hussein was giving them unlimited access. Why was Bush in such an incredible rush to go to war?
Hussein Disarms, so Bush ... Goes to War
When it became clear that the whole purpose of Bush's prewar campaign -- to get Hussein to disarm -- was being (or already had been) met, Bush and his people came up with a demand they had never once made before -- that Hussein resign and leave Iraq. On March 17, 2003, Bush said in a speech to the nation that, "Saddam Hussein and his sons must leave Iraq within 48 hours. Their refusal to do so will result in military conflict." Military conflict -- the lives of thousands of young Americans on the line -- because Bush trumped up a new line in the sand?
The Niger Allegation
One of the most notorious instances of the Bush administration using thoroughly discredited information to frighten the American public was the 16 words in Bush's January 28, 2003 State of the Union speech: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." The Niger allegation was false, and the Bush administration knew it was false.
Joseph C. Wilson IV, the former ambassador to Iraq, was sent to Niger by the CIA in February 2002 to investigate a supposed memo that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake (a form of lightly processed ore) to Iraq by Niger in the late 1990s. Wilson reported back to the CIA that it was "highly doubtful" such a transaction had ever taken place.
On March 7, 2003, Mohamed ElBaradei told the UN Security Council that "based on thorough analysis" his agency concluded that the "documents which formed the basis for the report of recent uranium transactions between Iraq and Niger are in fact not authentic." Indeed, author Craig Unger uncovered at least 14 instances prior to the 2003 State of the Union address in which analysts at the CIA, the State Department, or other government agencies that had examined the Niger documents "raised serious doubts about their legitimacy -- only to be rebuffed by Bush administration officials who wanted to use them."
On October 5 and 6, 2002, the CIA sent memos to the National Security Council, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, and to the White House Situation Room stating that the Niger information was no good.
On January 24, 2003, four days before the president's State of the Union address, the CIA's National Intelligence Council, which oversees all federal agencies that deal with intelligence, sent a memo to the White House stating that "the Niger story is baseless and should be laid to rest."
The 9/11 Lie
The Bush administration put undue pressure on U.S. intelligence agencies to provide it with conclusions that would help them in their quest for war. Bush's former counterterrorism chief, Richard Clarke, said that on September 12, 2001, one day after 9/11, "The President in a very intimidating way left us -- me and my staff -- with the clear indication that he wanted us to come back with the word that there was an Iraqi hand behind 9/11."
Bush said on October 7, 2002, "We know that Iraq and the Al Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy -- the United States of America. We know that Iraq and Al Qaeda have had high level contacts that go back a decade," and that "Iraq has trained Al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gasses." Of Hussein, he said on November 1, 2002, "We know he's got ties with Al Qaeda."
Even after Bush admitted on September 17, 2003, that he had "no evidence" that Saddam Hussein was involved with 9/11, he audaciously continued, in the months and years that followed, to clearly suggest, without stating it outright, that Hussein was involved in 9/11.
On March 20, 2006, Bush said, "I was very careful never to say that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack on America."
Vincent Bugliosi received his law degree in 1964. In his career at the L.A. County District Attorney's office, he successfully prosecuted 105 out of 106 felony jury trials, including 21 murder convictions without a single loss. His most famous trial, the Charles Manson case, became the basis of his classic, Helter Skelter, the biggest selling true-crime book in publishing history. The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder is available May 27.
For more information visit www.prosecutionofbush.com
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Show AllThis question was ask, "So, Mr. Bugliosi has laid out the case. When does the action come?" Here is the one word answer, "NEVER"
Here is the major problem with having to wait until G.W.Bush is out of office to be able to charge him for the crimes he has committed. If Bush believes there is a real chance that he will be arrested and charged with the crimes he has committed then he most likely will never leave office. We, the American people, have allowed him to get laws passed that makes it so easy for him to become dictator of this country and I have no doubt that is what he will do to prevent anyone from being able to arrest him for any thing.
So I warn you that if there is a really serious move to arrest and try Bush for the crimes he has committed he will not leave office and that will leave us with only one way to remove him from office and we are going to need the full support of our armed forces to be able to that. So the question is, Will the soldiers of our armed forces continue to support this corrupt government or will they support the people. Pray that we will support the people, but to be honest I doubt that they will.
Bugliosi is mostly right, but 9/11 was not the first attack on American soil in American history. That honor should probably go to the Brits in the War of 1812, who brushed aside defenders quite as incompetent as our own Bush 2 crowd, took Washington, burned it to the ground, and hurt many Americans in the process. The president was James Madison. Congress soon investigated the incident, but carefully refrained from expressing any opinion or imputing any blame. What else is new? It's all in the book by Henry Adams, "History of the United States/1809-1817."
When do the Charges get filed? Why is it taking so long, everyone here has wanted this for 6-8 years! We have the video, e-mails, witnesses, crimes, and the truth but those who CAN won't. Could this be a Class Action? Can the People start this ball rolling? Where do we start. Where can we donate? Can The People hire Bugliosi? You all know we can't depend on the mealy-mouthed cowards in Congress. Well, what do you think Mr. Bugliosi? Will you take this on?
I'm not planning on moving to Canada. I'm already here. The problem is that the Conservative minority government here is led by a wannabe neocon, Stephen Harper (whom Bush refers to as "Steve" -- he's the only one who calls him Steve).
I've read Bugliosi's book, and have no doubt that Bush could be tried federally or by any state for the crime of murder. Bugliosi even goes through the cross-examination of Bush (Bush would look pretty guilty if he didn't take the stand in his own defense), an it's not pretty for Dubya. Just about anything he might say would back him into a corner.
Anyway, it's nice to know that I'm not the only person in the world who can see that the emperor has no clothes on. I think it's interesting that many people here see the JFK/RFK/MLK assassinations, the JFK Jr. crash/assassination, September 11 (I don't like to use 9/11 because it tends to trivialize the events), and the Afghan and Iraq wars as part of the same despicable chain of events--with the common thread of GHW Bush and his dysfunctional family, starting with Dubya's grandfather.
I'm also happy to see that Reagan worship doesn't seem to exist here. Ketchup for all!!
I am glad someone is finally defining the deception and criminal culpability of Bush in this war; saying what many have thought for so long. If you have read any of Mr. Bugliosi's books you know that his clinical analysis of subjects is beyond compare. This book has been blacked out by the mainstream media; although he will be on C-SPAN2's bookTV Sunday July 13 at 4:15AM ET.
Long post ahead, y'all have been warned... ;)
This is a great book, but you know, the thing I keep thinking is that I knew almost a DECADE ago just how bad George W. Bush was (and so did the people who would read this site in the first place, I expect.) But the specific reason why *I* knew this is that I investigated vote fraud in Tennessee in the 2000 election. When I first started doing this (in November 1999), I'll never forget how weird it felt; it was like I was the ONLY one who knew that something terrible was going on, and the people walking around on the street all around me just had no idea. Of course, I wasn't the only one who knew and wanted to find out more; the NAACP definitely wanted to know, which is why the Tennessee chapter held a huge meeting on the subject only a few days after the election to start recording information about the many, many, many allegations of voter disenfranchisement among African-Americans in our state. A press release was sent to all major papers in Tennessee-- well, guess who printed it? The Tennessee Tribune (the major African-American paper) and Urban Flavor (one of the alternative AA papers.) Everyone else, EVERY other news source, just ignored it. The Urban League was also quite interested in the subject, as was the SEIU and the local UAW chapter at the Saturn plant. American Progressive, American Liberal, and the scholarly journal Southern Exposure all printed articles because *I* wrote and sent them; ditto with Alternet (Bite the Ballot, one of my pieces, is still in the archives, actually.) Not that there's anything particularly special about me, but after the untold hours I put into this, all the abuse I received, all the threats I got including death threats with specific time, place, and weapon, some credit is always nice. :)
The general media was so inexcusably dismissive of the massive mountains of allegations of vote fraud that all favored George W. Bush that it still seems unbelievable. Nobody will ever know exactly what happened in that election, but the atmosphere of "who cares, Gore is a sore loser" presented and nurtured by the media is what helped to ensure the very fact that we'll never know. Honestly, that did nothing but foreshadow the way the media has treated anything related to Bush all along (obviously, this exempts a source like Common Dreams.) This is one of the things that Bugliosi does such a great job of pointing out. The American people aren't dumb. But it's very hard for the vast majority to see any other way of understanding things if EVERY single mainstream media source of any kind whatsoever-- and not even dragging in Rush and his ilk, either-- is saying one thing, presenting one point of view, and behaving as if no alternate POV could even exist.
So all in all, the only problem with the book, I think, is that I want him to give people like me and us more credit!!@ We knew what Bush was ALL ALONG, when everyone else was bleating how great he was. When Bush had a 90% approval rating, WE were the ten percent. When invading Afghanistan was approved by 94% of the American public, hey, guess who the 6% were... could it be US??? However, the main reason I thought that invasion was such a bad idea may or not be the same reason others had. I knew what an incompetent moron and loser Bush was, and I had absolutely no confidence that he'd do what he said he was going to do, which to capture Bin Laden. And he didn't. I thought he'd just end up going in there and making a mess that would come back to haunt us later. And he did.
However, the really interesting thing this book ends up getting across is that you don't have to be any kind of a liberal to realize just how bad Bush is. Conservative Republicans *should* be more horrified than anyone else; as Barry Goldwater correctly points out, the Bush cabal is made up of people who could hardly be further from a genuine definition of conservatism OR Republicanism. I suspect that few people would really 100% fit the definition of liberal, conservative, or mushy middle anyway. For example, I've known how bad Bush is for almost ten years, I don't think Reagan has turned into a saint just because he's dead, and I don't have anything good to say about any flavor of Republicanism at all. I'm a good old-fashioned bleeding heart liberal, but I'm also a very old-school Democrat, which means that I believe in FDR-style big government! :) And when it comes to law and order, to tell y'all the truth, I'm pretty much where Bugliosi himself is, which is mighty conservative indeed. I'm not an anarchist by any manner of means. I don't drink alcohol, smoke pot, or use drugs (except for Ritalin! Don't take away my Ritalin! ;) I'm a complicated mess of liberal and conservative and everything in-between, and I suspect that the same is true of all of us. So I can come together with you, and you, and you, and all of the individual you's that come together to make up America. If there is any one message to take from Bugliosi's book, it's that a people really can and should decide to do this.
Also, there's a very good reason why this book is FAR from old news. It's old news for US, because we've known all along. But look at how many people still have no idea about any of the facts presented in this book, and even how many STILL think that Bush is a good president!! We need to not forget this. But in time, things can and do turn around. Maybe the most interesting point Bugliosi makes in the entire book is that Pinochet was finally tried for his crimes in Chile fully THIRTY years after he committed them. We all know that nobody would try Bush for murder *now* or a year from now, but five, ten years from now... well, anything could happen. So let's all take heart! :)
Yawn....
Sorry for the skepticism however, the time for talking has long passed. The question has been and will always be, when do WE as Americans take action?
Cheney/Bush World Tour 2009
01/20 - Crawford Texas
01/21 - the Hague
01/22 - Hell
LC May, as soon as you invoked Ted Kennedy, your post became a joke.
ClassAct May 9th, 2008 1:13 pm
How can you relate this great story about this Godzilla thing, which explains a lot, and then just leave us all hanging! Why should we believe this? What are your references??? Where/how did you find out about this? PLEASE EXPLAIN!!
One way of getting this message out beyond the liberal choir is to join a peace vigil with some of this information on a sign. My favorite peace vigil sign, which gets honks of approval from the general public driving by in Dover, New Hampshire, is:
"NO LIES
NO WAR"
That seems to rather succinctly summarize much of what is in this article and the comments. I invite people everywhere to take this message to their local peace vigils.
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
Albert Einstein
I have a major problem with the guy that wrote this. Being is that he went along with the miscarriage of justice called the Manson trial. Anyone who would claim justice was done in a trial where the jury was told the president says the defendant is guilty, does not make me feel I could trust them. As for his article on Bush I agree but unless this can be posted by a major world media source in America on a national scale it is meaningless. Since all major media is under complete control of the Bush crime family, this will just be a exciting song for the LIBERAL CHOIR.
Simo wrote:
"There is no “rule of law†in the USA. The law exists merely to control the masses, not the powerful. Bush and his allies are guilty of war crimes on a mass scale and Congress, for refusing to impeach and jail these murders, these traitors, are complicit in these crimes. Shame on Congress. Shame on America. One million Iraqis dead. Jesus Christ, what has this country become?"
What this country has become is ruled by psychopaths who are cunning enough to construct a "mask of sanity". These creatures have no conscience. No sense of empathy. Imagine doing whatever you think will get you what you want and nary a twinge to ever make you lose sleep over it. THAT is what we are dealing with. And what they want is total control over all resources and labour to utilize those resources for their personal benefit. We will be the unwashed masses that serve the elite. The pieces are being put into place, but we are currently mesmerized by the pieces. We are not seeing the larger picture. This is be design, of course. Our entire capitalist society favours, and rewards the traits considered to be psychopathic.
It's estimated that only 6% of the population may be considered essentially psychopathic. They can, however influence and sway another 12 to 16% of the population. 20% seems to be enough to corrupt a society's fabric. Notice any resemblance Bush's recent poll numbers? There's that 28% or so of true believers and /or conscience-less profiteers.
There's so much to be done to take back this world for the normal people, but the first thing is to educate yourself. All the marches and demonstrations won't do any good unless you truly KNOW YOUR ADVERSARY. You cannot cure what you don't understand.
Start with this link: http://www.ponerology.com
Then read Robert Hare's "Without Conscience"
Martha Stout's "The Sociopath Next Door"
Hervey Cleckely's "The Mask of Sanity" available as a free download here:
http://www.quantumfuture.net/store/downloads.php
Time is precious!
Rich Griffin, why not contact Bugliosi and ask him to step up to the plate? He is toward the end of career so he would not ruin a career by taking this on, he has a well known name.....after the election is prime time, won't be competing for media coverage--from November to the first week in January. Why Boston? Why not Philladelphia where the important documents were drafted, and the Liberty Bell resides?
Not only Bush but also Pelosi and Reid must be indicted for war crimes and tried by the same tribunal prosecuting Bush & Cheney. Pelosi and Reid have both allowed and authorized Bush to continue his war by keeping its funding in a cynical ploy to extend Democratic majorities in congress in 2006 and 2008.
Before this happens, however, Pelosi and Reid must themselves be impeached for high crimes against the US Constitution, a constitution they have failed to uphold by, among several other violations, not impeaching Bush & Cheney, and not stopping an illegal occupation of a foreign country.
I thought you’d like to check out the political allegory of mine that I just found a literary agent for. It’s a story set in the context of a teacher discussing with his class all of the evidence that the Bush administration is as corrupt as it is incompetent....and how to rectify the Constitutional crisis we face. It’s couched in a discussion about the urgent need to stop abusing Mother Nature. I wrote in 3 dozen celebrities to play the students, so it’s very funny despite how infuriating it is. You can read it at www.stoplittering.com/theswitch.htm and, yes, StopLittering.com is my site.
The fact that Henry Kissinger is still running around grunting and snorting his gibberish proves that war criminals are not indicted and prosecuted in the US. When I designed and built blast furnaces for melting metal and casting objects (which was fun), I ran propane tanks at full blast in a 6 inch thick high temp refractory walled 55 gallon drum....it two hours I could not melt steel and I ran out of propane. Anyone who says the fires from the planes and their 'impact on the building caused severe structural damage' don't know shit from shinola....nor do they know how powerful simple wind blowing against such a huge structure is. The planes were nothing, the fires were nothing....but the explosives....that was something.
War crimes and crimes against humanity is what the GOP and and WH has actively engaged in for seven years now. Fortunately for them, the brainwashed minds of republican voters from decades of propaganda issued from the GOP makes it impossible to differentiate between the ringing of the bell and their salivating thinking they are getting 'conservative' healthy food and the fact that they have become essentially Pavlov's dogs......but even with Pavlov's dogs, the torrential rains and subsequent flooding of his laboratories in Russia immediately extinguished the conditioning of the brainwashed minds of his dogs due to the trauma of the floods. So it will be with the so-called 'conservative' voters when the economic flood of almost 40 years of horrific economic policy finally hits everyone square in the eyes.
Unfortunately, Nixon's removal of the gold standard is the enabler of the globalist agenda which is the end game of the whole 9/11 and 'war on terror' scheme. 911 was just the Reichstag fire of the globalist/WTO/IMF mussolini corporatist thing they have going on...it will end the same way but only after much more suffering.
“…how the hell are we going to turn this Mad March to the Cosmic Sea of Dark Matter around…?â€
Answer: Amendment X - that is to say, we must recognize and grow beyond the founding concept that the 3 branches of Government and their relative separation of powers are endowed with all the authority and all domain over all matters germane to the human race and the eternal future of humankind. The understanding and provision for this was specifically and succinctly preserved for us in the Constitution’s Bill of Rights – and it can’t be any more American or patriotic than this:
“ The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. â€
1) Create and administer a publicly owned fund and community trust to equitably preserve, manage and promote public wealth (not money or coin – but which could have the effect of competing effectively with the privately owned fed. and other self-serving private money markets, such as insurers – whose profit and wealth is inequitably gained through the fruits and labors of the working class - i.e., double unto her her deeds…)
2) Provide for a council of elders (nonpartisan, non-appointed by Congress or Executive, selectable by common consent based on an Individual Life Work and/or social interest apart from politics - such as teachers, philosophers, researchers, humanitarians) to serve as an advisory authority, directed to act in the interest of the planet and for the future of the human race, rather than for expedient and/or immediate corporate self-interests – a dept. of the future perhaps, but not under the authority of an existing government branch.
3) Adopt and endow a fourth sentient sovereign functional arm of government (thus creating a more solid equitable 4-square system of checks and balances) that is charged with assuring and promoting the ideas as set forth in the Declaration of Independence; to identify, enumerate, preserve and promote unalienable rights, to identify and champion legislation and judicial enforcement as necessary to guard against and reconcile grievances accordingly, to promote the general welfare, with the power to accept and submit public referendums for legislative and judicial consideration, to help preserve the integrity of checks and balances with full access and oversight of all government activity, to check national security and covert intelligence interests, to freely create and distribute press and public media uninfluenced and free from corporate and commercial interests, to administer public resources, to freely provide objective campaign information and to monitor elections, etc.; to act in stead and on behalf of the balance of power between public, private and power interests, without undue influence of special interest.
Simply stated - it is self-limiting to hold that the full scope and balance of all power lies entirely within the scope of the constitutional authority given to any one or several of the current branches of government. That is, indeed, the very reason for the provision and existence of Amendment X in the Bill of Rights (emphasis on Rights). Which thus, establishes both the opportunity and purpose for such a unifying guardian body of authority to manifest - in order to secure a firm foundation for the forward ideals laid forth by the founding fathers, and as necessary to assure the Constitution serves onward as an essential living evolving instrument for public good – to secure Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness for all - to provide new guards for future well being - to strive forever to form a more perfect union, and to secure the blessings of liberty for posterity.
We can leave it to God, or as he would will we do for ourselves - to evolve society and government as from time to time becomes necessary in the course of human events.
Mens sana in corpore sano.
Mustard Seed
Readers here will recall that I've been saying all this on my own website (said a great deal of it here, too), for literally years. The fact is that like prosecution of federal employees for crimes (murders) like Ruby Ridge, Waco, Ken Trentadue, Amadou Diallo, Sal Culosi, Sean Bell, and literally hundreds more, there will be no prosecution of George W. Bush for what is among the worst crimes in history - this nation or the world. My own lawsuit - the third, actually - has just been effectively ignored (after a year and a half, the court finally responded with a list of utterly false assertions concerning the complaint). Come on folks, talk is cheap. Look up Flast v. Cohen, then ask yourselves why people go on paying federal taxes. Good luck to Mr. Bugliosi - the book should sell like hot cakes. Just like Barbara Walters latest - and for pretty much the same reasons.
Wouldn't it be great if we had freedom of the media instead of Rupert Murdock and more people had time to spare from trying to keep up with their credit card payments to think about what is going on?
It would indeed be sweet to hear the truth and see evil doers forced to hear it too.
By the way where do you all live? If I display a red bandanna around here I will be asking for trouble from all the enemies of the Bloods. Blue would align me with the Crips, green with the Lime street faction etc... I would like to show my solidarity with the movement but bandannas are already being used by street gangs.
By the way what about the "private contractors" who have lost their lives in this Iraq mess? No one ever talks about them.
AlexLawyer, I appreciate your comments. I have always said that impeachment or trial by the international criminal court--either one would be fine by me. America has revealed her fatal weakness because we have refused to stand up to this president and his policies and a great many of our own congressional leaders have been complicit. Bush, as I understand it, rather purposefully distanced America from the International Criminal Court which to me shows that he (or his handlers) understood that he was going to be doing things that would subject him to international censure. America has systematically undermined the United Nations and while the ICC is not part of the UN, they are connected.
Given the lassitude of the American Congress how can Americans who care about this issue effectively call for much needed intervention and commentary from the International Criminal Court?
Can anyone provide for me e-mail addresses of more anti-Bush sympathetic groups, organizations, individuals? This would be a great help! bentaurus@hotmail.com
Those 16 words:
"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
Bush is such a moron, and not only did he have the look of a mass murderer when uttering that infamous lie, but his speech writers coud not use the name of the country, Niger, for fear he would butcher the pronounciation on national television. Pronouncing "significant" with the silent "g" was difficult enough.
Also the worst liar ever.
gw has two personalities. One the buffoon a failure at everything he attempted; school, military, several businesses that daddy financed. The other, a ruthless, cruel, lazy bum alcoholic schidso who surrounds himself with like minded who will make jokes on national t.v. about breaking the law big time.Thinks nothing of attacking a country illegally that causes millions of deaths while publicly coddling family members with wealthy excess.
It would be easier to make a voluntary manslaughter case for the dozens of prisoners tortured to death by US officials. Bush authorized techniques that have long been clearly recognized as unlawful in the US and around the world, and he created a system so brutal that it resulted in deaths of detainees, some of them demonstrably innocent. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, Ashcroft and Tenet are also implicated and should be investigated, indicted, tried and convicted.
Coco,
I love the song "imagine" Somehow as old as it is it sums up what we seem to be thirsting for.
I want to believe that somehow we have one last opportunity to change the world....for the better.
I am hoping we can let the bandana revolution take on a life of its own and "imagine" what we can do to stop this Empire and choose to build a new Earth community.
Time is limited. We best get working on it. At no other time in my 56 years have I seen such a need for urgency.
JDRMMR,
35 years ago I chose not to have children. I thought I would be bringing them into a world that would be fighting for water. Not far off.
I started being scared about four years ago. I realized what was in store. I finshed restoring this historic home we bought in 2003 in West Palm Beach. We have now have had our house for sale for close to two years. A beautiful little spot in the sun of West Palm Beach. I saw this coming but obviously not soon enough. It's been very difficult to stay ahead of the Empires plans to make my own.
We cannot go north to Canada (too cold) but have debated other places outside this country. Can't do anything unless we sell.
In the interim I have sworn to fight until I leave. As we used to say in the 60's "Power to the People!" I think it's time to revive a few good ways and times the best way we can.
The bandana is the way I can see who is willing to join the fight.
LC,
Did you take your medicine today?
JDRMMR: Thinking of Canada...hmmm 50 million educated voters and their families trying to move to Canada? There might be room, health care is rational and moral. Sounds good better than fighting with knuckle heads here. I am sure that half of the supposed 49 million Bush voters would not vote for him if they were not duped by the media, maybe only 25 million hard core.
castlecoalition.org it explains how to become as powerful as a multinational. To join millions of Americans into the Coalition of Americans trying George W. Bush, et al. for murder, war crimes, etc. is the power back to the people. Coalitions - we're forming ours to save our water rights since eminent domain is rampant in the U.S. Millions, think about it for a minute, in a Coalition to bring Justice to the Criminals who have stolen America.
I like Father Mulkahy's war song (from Mash) as a theme song also.
"There's no one singing war songs now like people used to do,
No "Over There," no "Praise the Lord," no "Glory Hallelu."
Perhaps at last we've asked ourselves what we should have asked before,With the pain and death this madness brings, what were we ever singing for?"
I am scared of the future of this country. I am glad I don't have children. I am thinking of moving to Canada. Like so many of my friends have.
CIVIL BEHAVIOUR/GHAWAR/NOTB4NOW969 ET AL
'earth community' seems like a good message. and as a theme song i would like to suggest david bowie's 'space oddity'. he wrote the song by being inspired by kubrick's 'space odyssey' in 69 and it was broadcast during the moon landing transmission programme in the u.k. revoluntionary at the time and exactly what we need now. and in the absence of new ideas, let's use one that has been proven to be effective. see it at:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhSYbRiYwTY
it's a classic..................along with 'imagine' by john lennon.
civil behavior - thank you for your reply. i missed that discussion on 4/21.
I think there is enough discontent and possibly even the beginnings of enough understanding of our predicament for a movement of real substance and visibility to soon develop. The unifying powers of a recognizable symbol will work wonders in this atmosphere - if we can pull it off.
As for color - I see it's to be a free-for-all. Okay. As for the message - we have to keep away from negatives and stick with positives; I like, for example, "Earth Community" as discussed above. I'm all into this, until it flops, which hope it won't. Bravo for a great idea!
Oh, and of course I'll be keeping an eye out now for a colorful hemp bandera that I will wear everywhere as soon as I see it. the right one.
lawlessone May 10th, 2008 2:28 pm
"I continue to be amazed at both the willingness of the Bush Administration to deliberately lie to us and the assumption we are bone headed stupid."
Bush is not bothered by his lies because he knows that those of us who can see through them are outnumbered. I used to think that, caught in a lie, he would be shamed and be forced to recant. No.
His attitude is - So what if we know better? He has at his disposal one hundred million American morons who believe him, and while we may be educated and skilled in communication, his one-hundred million true believers outnumber us, and many of them are armed and authorized to protect the empire from truth and reality.
Great comments and many calls to ACTION by Posters. One early to post provided his e-mail who is ready to lead: bentaurus@hotmail.com. Lets get going on this and not just talk! It is a chance to make a real difference.
I tied my royal blue bandana to my yellow purse, and I'm feeling all rebellious, and slightly empowered that I can at least make a statement, and maybe others will too. If anyone has put this nicely into words (what it stands for etc.) and can e-mail it to me, I will start getting it sent around (around the Twin Cities area, anyway). My e-mail is my screen name + @yahoo.com.
Waiting For The Signal
These pages that bring us together
are the fire in the cave above the stream,
a dream we move in and out of, faceless,
expendable, waiting for a burst of wings
to spill our pooled bones like coins
over the chilled and silent ground
we fell in love with so long ago,
singing the green hills homeward
under that shovel-shouldered sun.
Fatigue works grim the stone of souls.
No talk is needed to believe the bleeding
will be ours all too soon. Needled dust,
that settled itself in naive lungs, cuts
with each rasp, yet the bleeding
won't be stemmed. Quick, black tongues
flick from windows, floors below pancaking
slabs, and the Street slumps with peanuts
beside its beer, locked on the game.
In our rush of voices a stream curses
the murmur of pines. In our names,
what we begged for never to be done,
is done with no shame. And the day
drags its blindered self to toil. Night trades
whiskey pete for oil, while down slope,
death-drummer birds with blazing eyes
ascend the holy crags to kill dissent
before we waking innocent arise.
rockpicker
12/10/05
I continue to be amazed at both the willingness of the Bush Administration to deliberately lie to us and the assumption we are bone headed stupid.
Bush's spokesmen now claim that the "Mission Accomplished" banner under which he declared victory in Iraq five years ago was not "his" banner. It is general knowledge they actually turned an entire carrier fleet around just so that the near shoreline would not be visible in tv shots. They staged a carrier jet landing with Bush strutting out in warrior costume. And, they chose precisely where the podium and all the photographers would be placed.
To suggest now that the horrendously wrong sign and its wording were not with their full participation defies credibility.
Of course, since one out of three people in this country apparently still believe those pathological liars in the White House who seem to lie even about things that would not harm them, well, maybe the Bush Administration is right on one thing. We do seem to be bone headed stupid.
OOPS.......sorry ghawar....not gahwar.....
Gahwar,
I think you'll enjoy this.
I've been working on this bandana idea for about three weeks now and it seems to be catching on. What was so awe inspiring was the following response to one of my first posts on it from another commenter. Here is most of it.
Please read and enjoy. It gave me the inspiration not to give up on the idea even if it took awhile.
"From Estabandido Common Dreams April 21, 2008
Yes, bandanas!! I been wearin’ one for years anyway. They are the all-around earth-lover’s protection, wipe, tool, and symbol of the wild and free, the untrammeled, the lover of natural and left-alone corners, a shade to eyes so damn tired of peering out into the carnage and insanity… So let’s try bandanas! Let everyone use those colors they most appreciate, let the symbolism of color enliven this hopeless task, a task nevertheless (exactly like the bodhisattva’s to “aid in the illumination of all sentient beingsâ€â€¦) completely necessary if our pitiful species is to survive this century….......
Amazing isn't it?
My dictionary shows that either spelling of bandana - one n or two - is correct, so I withdraw my earlier remark about spelling; one n is better anyway - simpler.
I was also thinking of maybe translating the word into Spanish, and I thought of the word bandera, as in the Puerto Rican national anthem ( " que bonita bandera..." ) but this is Spanish for flag, not quite right. I don't know the Spanish translation of bandana.
Anyway, it's a great idea and I hope that we can develop it and encourage widespread use.
Please add to this discussion. I think its important.
I want to join in giving my good and optimistic opinion of the "bandanna revolution" in which we all wear bandannas to identify ourselves with the Earth Community and so that we can recognize each other in public. It is an excellent idea, and one that has occurred to me independently too, although I had not settled on what sort of public symbol we should wear; the bandanna idea ends my thinking on this question.
What is the color and style of the bandanna? ( I will offer that our bandanna has two n's, not one. )
The bandanna is analogous to long hair forty years ago. In the mid to late sixties, long hair was so outrageous and so bold - you could not find a job, for example, if you wore long hair - that encountering someone in public who also had long hair meant instant friendship. That is what we need today.
This is such an excellent idea that it needs to be repeated in other posts. I'm going to copy my comment here and try to renew the discussion in more recent commentaries as this one I see is now passing into oblivion.
Buckoo, it's interesting and downright strange that only powerful Democrats die in small plane crashes. I've heard that the Rethuglicans were afraid JFK Jr was going to run for president in the future and so they got rid of him.
These right-wing fascists will kill for money and power because they know they can get away with it. George Bush by comparison makes Charles Manson look like an innocent child playing in a sandbox. Bush has caused the deaths of over 4,000 GIs and a million Iraqis.
Then these killers in expensive suits (paid for by us taxpayers) turn around and go to church on Sunday for photo-ops and claim to be religious Christians. What's George's excuse? God "told" him to do it.
Does George Bush even bother to get up every Sunday to go to church? LOL
Mr. Bugliosi and the host of "progressives" above are the reason liberals hide behind progressive and Bush 41 was with a majority of Americans able to define us as kooks with the L WORD.
From a legal standpoint as this is deemed an indictment of George W. Bush, I would remind that Mr. Bugliosi and all of the progressive brethern above figure out that your little international lynching of a President of the United States will not stop with George W. Bush.
GET THE POINT THAT YOU MR. & MS. PROGRESSIVE WILL BE INDICTED ON A NATIONAL SCALE AS ACCOMPLICES.
Before you start wide eyed claiming your innocence, just remember the last socialist, and George Bush is a socialist and not a right wing neocon, because he has spent more money on programs than Bill Clinton and Teddy Kennedy aided him in writing the education bill, that Germany twice had international indictments against it's leaders and the entire German nation was made to pay.
So for progressive Americans throwing George Bush on your pyre, because you are angry the electoral college made him president as Al Gore was too busy bashing America and John Kerry was too busy trying to be a slaughter king, you just remember that a host of Democrats demanded and voted for the Iraq War "that something had to be done" and as Mr. B along with the armchair posters here have NO WRITTEN PUBLIC RECORD CALLING FOR BILL CLINTON TO STOP BIN LADEN that makes you an accomplice for 9 11 and as there is no written record for trying to stop the first Gulf War, you are an accomplice for you charges of mass murder.
Oh and legal children, even if you did find something you posted, voila, there are hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi's and Kurds by Saddam, so you are guilty of aiding in mass murder for now ousting him.
See in your charmed world the reality is in the REAL WORLD your sword cuts both ways. YOU who supported Bill Clinton in Kosovo and now evidence has come to light that Serbian babies were butchered by "your side" led by Wes Clark that you too are indicted for mass murder.
To touch on the reality as apparently Mr. Bugliosi has no intelligence connections as I have in socialist Israel, communist Syria and fascist Saudi Arabia, the fact is known that Saddam did indeed have WMD. The Russian GRU (Russian Military Intelligence) loaded 2 shiploads of chemical weapons and dumped them in the Indian Ocean.
2 plane loads and 2 truck convoys of biological weapons were sent the week before the invasion of Iraq into Syria where they are now sitting atop Russian made medium range missiles.
Added to this Saddam's one lone nuclear bomb, which was too heavy to place on a Scud missile was flown out by a GRU jet shortly before the invasion to Moscow.
The record in Darfur also reveals from their communist leaders that Saddam sent his Air Force pilots to drop chemical weapons on the Christians there. The evidence is in the mountain graves there.
Now George Bush is guilty of covering all this evidence up. Guilty because the chemical weapons, bio agents weapons grade uranium came from socialist brothers in Europe.
This evidence coming out would have toppled France and Germany, leaving America standing alone and Europe ripe for Islamocommunist revolution. That is why George Bush covered this all up.
It is also why Valerie Plame who was working for the Clinton's sent her husband into Niger to "find nothing", because the fact of that matter is Saddam Hussein bribed with billions of dollars most of the leaders of the world. Marc Rich laundered this money and the Clintons got around 51 million dollar in their cut........it is why Bill was out speaking and being paid for it as that way the money could filter in and be explained. It is called double dipping.
In this the French socialists were bribed with Bill Clinton knowing that the French would refine 1.77 tons of weapons grade uranium for Iraq. We know this if you bother to Google it, because America flew out 1.77 tons of weapons grade uranium to White Sands shortly after Iraq was taken over.
THAT IS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION that either Helen Thomas is now covering up or Mr. B is completely ignorant of on purpose.
So as the mob chimes in for the trial of Geroge Bush, just remember my progressive brothers and sisters that once the court trials start that ALL THE RECORDS will start filtering back. The same records George W. Bush knew were there when he ordered Justice to close the files as Louis Freeh told him and the same records were there which George H. W. Bush scolded Bill Clinton in public with "I know where the skeletons are to back off Bill".
Those same records will be used against all the progressives on this site if we start hauling in our presidents, because it was your cheering policy which can be shown with Bill Clinton which led up to all the things which Mr. B is accusing George Bush of.
That is a legal accomplice.
So if progressives here desire their own trials they had better get their own lawyers and prepare for the same fate Nazi sympathizers got after World War II.
Progressives have got to stop sounding like incompetent no minds and fringe kooks. The same blame you level at one of your own is picked up by terrorists and used to act.
For the fact, every American soldier and Iraqi after Saddam was toppled is not George Bush's responsibility alone because it was progressives like Helen Thomas to Jeff Rense who started planting inflaming stories which caused those murders.
Sure you can deny it, but hey this is international court and one American is all Americans.
So Mr. B and the others clueless of historical fact, historical law and real international justice........just remember that YOU ARE NOW ON RECORD VOTING FOR HILLARY CLINTON who says she will vaporize Iran with nuclear bombs and Barack Obama who states he will nuke parts of ally Pakistan.
As you are on record now calling for a lynching of a President of the United States, that same rope is now precedent for ALL PRESIDENTS and the bloggers who agreed and voted for them.
Your thought it was ok to make it policy to label all Germans as "nazi" and never stopped Mario Cuomo from calling Pat Buchanan one.........well when the indictments come it will be each of the progressives here looked upon in group as "Americans" who will be led away.
You are guilty by your own condemnation.
Reasonably, progressives brothers and sisters, grow up, as this is politics and not good and evil for courts. You loose elections, so put forth candidates who will not be raping women and destroying liberal ideals in Bill Clinton's 8 years so America turns from liberalism and shuns a kook like Al Gore.
But no, progressives are now voting for 2 candidates who are talking about nuking nations, guns, God and a nazification of America where all of us work for benefits.
That is quite blind and completely not John F. Kennedy.
So Mr. B dust off the files as when the gavel bangs, you might get George Bush as an accomplice to Bill Clinton policy, but you are going to get a bigger group of progressives which is the entire Democratic leadership.
If that is what you want, which George Bush covered up for Bill Clinton, so America would not have another Watergate fiasco so a blundering Jimmy Carter could hand America over to our enemies, then enjoy your prison cell as you will have sealed America's fate.
Progressives had better relearn how to think as what is coming out is going to lynch progressives.
To Cee Miracles and all others interested…
First off, the thing I like about CD is I can go back and actually find a response to posts.
Secondly, I too cut my teeth at the end of the 60’s as part of the revolutionary movement to halt the Nam war. Too many kids then were getting killed for the Empire and women and blacks were fighting for social justice al of which had the visual support of the many.
Since then we have seen a precipitous decline in our ability to trust government. Agreed? The control that has been consolidated at the top including members of Congress know that keeping us unseen and divided about what we can agree upon has worked to their advantage. No better time than the present to steal their thunder and show them VERY visually how many of us there are. They don’t worry about us because they don’t know how many of US there are.
Problem is in today’s world it is just not as simple to get together hundreds of thousands in one place to protest Empire which is why the bandana revolution might just work. We need to be able to express it locally. We need to gather locally. Blackwater cannot be in 5,000 towns as easily as they can in one (DC mass protest). But first we need to see each other.
A simple square of fabric can be its own broadcast media if people like yourself pass it on. I have been working it into different blog posts and sending it out to friends. I talk to others about it when I get the chance. Wouldn’t it be amazing to see a country abloom with bandanas of all colors? Sort of an interim flag, so to speak?
We need to SEE bandanas,
and so do THEY.
Revolution using symbolism stands for the IDEA. A bandana is merely the convention used to achieve an end to empire through a show of hands. Solidarity shown by carrying a bandana is the choice made for Earth Community over Empire. Once you’ve made that commitment then you can back whomever you feel has laid out the best plans to reject Empire and embrace Earth Community because that is your personal choice. Committing to Earth community is the nexus of the bandana revolution.
Earth Community
And all that it entails.
That means making substantial, sustainable choices that educate and show others that your level of consciousness is of a higher level than what the status quo is. Voting is not enough anymore. Lifestyles must change. We can no longer attempt to rule the world for our own self aggrandizement. We are all responsible. Hopelessness and despair beget suicide. Why do you think freedom fighters use it?
So I have tied my bandana to my bike. And you?
It is time to show each other who will support Earth Community and reject Empire’s dominance.
Pssssst……….do something………….pass it on!!!!!!!!!
P.S. Feel free to cut and paste any or all of the above
Why has the Justice Department not throughly investigated the Murder/Assassination of John F. Kennedy Jr.
John's plane did not crash, it exploded. The Plane was in a landing pattern only 7 to 9 miles outside of Airport at Martha's Vineyard.
Will the Truth ever come out? There are many among you that are afraid to let the Truth be known.
The American Public demands that this Investigation be immediately reopened.
When will Congress issue the order for his Arrest? Also the Arrest of Chaney, Rumsfeld,Rice, Wolfawitch,Colin Powell, All Media Pundits and any Congressman ,CIA, FBI, or Public Official that knowingly advance this Lie.
The American Public Demand Our Elected Representitives to immediately Order this Command to Arrest The Above Mentioned Officials as a Danger to the Peace and Safety In America And The World.
As a prosecutor of Manson, Bugliosi had the police on his side. The police arrested Manson and dragged him by his filthy hair to jail. If Bugliosi should try to have Bush arrested he would be laughed at or arrested himself.
That is why, when you watch the national news each evening for your information, you see that the Iraqi resistance frequently attacks police stations. The police in Iraq work for George Bush just as the police in the U.S. work for George Bush.
The police are a real problem in the U.S. In my lifespan I have seen a profound transformation of the single, friendly officer who helped me cross the street on my way home as a first-grader, into a state-controlled gaggle of heavily armed thugs who might accost me for no reason, threaten me with violence and demand that I empty my pockets. If I were to try to arrest George Bush, then they would surely kill me.
The police do not protect or serve the people. They protect the government thugs. They are mostly retards who are impressed by authority, like the corrupt Supreme Court or Bush himself, and they take satisfaction in administering a beating to anyone. American police today are the equivalent of Hitler's brown shirts, a collection of thugs and losers and emotional basket cases with guns and grins and chips on their shoulders. They are easily manipulated and are loyal to the corrupt system out of ignorance and vanity.
Out of a sadistic whim or a moment of rage, a cop can kill you along the roadside in the U.S. with no consequences to himself whatsoever. All he must do is say that the cell phone in your hand appeared to be a weapon. No one will question him; he can walk away from a murder, and cops commit murders and executions in the U.S. every day.
Genocide in America has only just begun, but it has begun on several fronts and as an ignorant population invites the expansion of these initiatives out of frustration and anger, the program will develop into a full scale system of genocide that will kill millions of American undesirables, and Bugliosi, like you and me, can now count himself among the dead.
To those so-called "patriots" who insist that NO ONE should question the actions of George W. Bush, please consider the following words of one of the most revered Republican presidents ever:
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
hey huck, truth be told there arent any "DEMS" anymore. they are wolves in sheeps clothing all bought and paid for by the Bush Crime Family so blaming them is again blaming the Bush Crime Family.
If we truly do reap what we sow, then I would hate to have Bush's karma.
Maybe you ought to check with your Heroes in the Democratic Party who gave Shrub permission to invade. Then you might want to check with Party leaders who have funded the war since they took over both Houses in 2004 thus allowing the murder to continue by taking Impeachment and impeeding attempts to Investigate Bush! This is just another example of speaking with a forked tounge. The Dems are every bit as responsible for the murder as Bush. Another Meta Narrative of the white inside the beltway refrain driven by a flock of sheep.
It looks like the mock impeachment will be held in Boston.
Are there any lawyers on here who could take up some posters' suggestions of a class action suit?
There are also lots of small functionaries, like Yoo and Gonzales. These are the worms that signed the memos approving torture. Yoo is in Berkeley. He walks around the campus and has a normal life. While others scream their throats bloody because of his actions.
To LetsSaveDemocracy,
How can anyone rob his home (or country) without first "binding the Strongman."
America is NOT A DEMOCRACY. It is a REPUBLIC. This fact is a matter of historical and written record.
Once the masses "Study to Prove Themselves Worthy" and learn the True history of the country in which they dwell, then maybe we will see some changes.
No wonder Bush and his thugs (all the way back in time to the original criminals)have committed crimes.
They have been ALLOWED to as our people don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. They have been "BINDED" with false history, religion, politics and all the other lies they have fed the people.
On the count of 3, can we all say "...AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH AMERICA STANDS?"
I agree, but most of you fellow commondreamers must act and spread the message..just writing in this forum will do nothing to get the war criminals the hundreds if not thousands of them in jail and hung for treason..take action..not with obama--not billary--not mcinsane--
you want criminal prosecutions??
http://www.votenader.org
and
http://www.roguegovernment.com/
First, I have to correct all of you on this board. Puppet Bush is simply a puppet. He has no more brains to run a coffee shop them to loot an entire treasury of the U.S. The "puppet masters" at the core of this disaster are both the Rockefellers and Rothschilds who control this government. Ever notice while they are never mentioned in Forbes richest men and their families are never mentioned anywhere in the media. Well then, now you are getting it. The international banking cartels have fomented and created all wars on this planet for some time now. They are the source and core of all evil. The leaves of this tree of corruption simply spread out from the root of the tree. Do you due diligence and research, and google Roschilds and Rockefellers. It is time we dragged these robber barons into the limelight and give them their just reward. A rope and an oak tree.
An Indictment of Bush, would be an indictment of the system, that allowed such tragedy, and obvious crime to occur. They would never carry out such a trial.
Because to do so, would be to admit that not only is Bush and his whole adminstation guilty. But also, all those that cheered it on.
Mankind is not yet ready to admit to himself that he his so flawed.
That war is murder and he is the murderer.
I love the bandana idea !!! Let's do it ! I'm going to call it the "Bandana Republic"
After all-
re·pub·lic
–noun
1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
www.dictionary.com
Who says we have to forgive and forget?
I don't care about vegeance at all. I care about WAKING UP AMERICANS so these things don't happen in the future!
I've written to many different progressive groups who might be interested in a mock impeachment; as usual, all i get back is begging for money letters & e-mails! Typical!
If anybody knows anybody who can MOVE this idea into reality, please let me know - or just do it!
On March 20, 2006, Bush said, “I was very careful never to say that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack on America.â€
See how smart he is? We're up against a criminal genius! There's no way to beat this guy, no way to capture him or bring him to trial. All we can do is forgive and forget. He is invincible!
Let us not forget the Bioterror Attacks on the Senate Judicial Committee as we mail our Mother's Day cards with the extra three cents postage. That too is a Capital Crime.
If Manson is deemed to be mentally ill, then certainly Bush Cheney et all are mentally ill and obsessed with bloodlust, disqualifying them from holding public office and requiring removal from society as dangerously mentally ill criminals. A psychotic person on the street who might appear to be dangerous to themself or others would most likely be incarcerated or hospitalized, if they were not gunned down by brutal american police. These deranged killers running the corporate government should be apprehended, examined, and subjected to the system.
And don't forget to include the rest of the murderous gang.
Good article Vincent, you're gettin Close to the big picture now.... Google George Bush and the JFK assassination.
Also if they find more bodies at the Manson Ranch, see if some murders around Topanga Canyon are linked.
I picked Charley up with two of his girl friends hitchhiking on Old Topanga Road and at the time there were rumors that "Big foot" was killing people..... Bigfoot turned out to be Charlie Manson as I recall.
Victor, who is more clearly bat shit crazy? Charlie or George?
h buchman, I completely agree with you. Concerning Bush's reaction, the pieces didn't fit, unless you think of him sitting there pondering the orchestrated events that he knew had just come into play. He was sitting there thinking well now there's no turning back. It's begun. I'm totally convinced that's why he was frozen in place. The momentary failure of nerve of a weak but malevolent man involved in something way over his head, without a handler in sight. The... oh shit it's started, response.
Sociopaths can be Charles Manson, the housewife next door, or the president of the United States.
CORRECTION/ADDITION: SECOND PARAGRAPH BELOW - UPPER CASE. For the rest, see previous post.
"However, I kind of like Patrick Henry’s fire: GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.
Since true liberty on behalf of my brother and sister citizens and on behalf of all those global brothers and sisters being attacked, oppressed, ripped off, and controlled by my now out-law, criminal government IS THE ISSUE OF OUR TIME, there will be a bandana hanging off my tailgate, Civil Behavior, flying just above the stickers all over the backside of my beat-up, rusting beauty of a car. It runs.
The stickers include IMPEACH, PEACE IS THE WAY, HE’S NOT MY PRESIDENT, and quite a few others. And I live in a small-town, conservative, Bible-beltish, Republican area.
Let’s do it. Shall we? The Bandana Revolution. It’s a start for a burgeoning Meet-up wherever you or I happen to meet up."
peace …
Civil Behavior, May 9, 2008, 10:04 pm:
"Use a bandana to identify yourself to me and all others who will bring down the Empire and begin to build the earth community. Wear it, tie it to your briefcase, backpack, bike or car. Join the bandana revolution.
They are few, we are many. A traveling visible symbol lets me know in a gas line, a supermarket or at work who you are and what you stand for. Earth Community needs us. Now."
+++++++
Just realized how 1984-ish wary I have become at this juncture, but that's the year that I actually started with "A Plan To Save the Planet Earth from Nuclear War," which was the hottest issue of the time with approximately 10,000 local groups/1,000 sponsoring groups in the U.S. and far, far more in Europe, the Soviet Union [yes!], and every other continent.
It was a piece of cake back then because of the activism generated by the horrific debacle of the Vietnam War, and reporter/journalists like Walter Cronkite and, yes, a young Dan Rather and so many others. Then labels like "liberal press" were accurate, and the news media still had strong, healthy teeth rather than soft, infected gums that can't hold on to a meaty concept like TRUTH.
But this is now, and I have learned to distrust, and if I wear or attach a bandana to "a briefcase, backpack, bike or car" as a signal/emblem "to identify [myself] to [you] and all others who will bring down the Empire and begin to build the earth community," and if you are not who you say you are, Civil Behavior, I have just identified myself as someone trying to "bring down the Empire"/government of the United States. That could get me declared an "enemy combatant," with no charges necessary and no habeus corpus to prevent my being thrown in a hole somewhere.
However, I kind of like Patrick Henry's fire: GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.
Since true liberty on behalf of my brother and sister citizens and on behalf of all those global brothers and sisters being attacked, oppressed, ripped off, and controlled by my now out-law, criminal government, there will be a bandana hanging off my tailgate, Civil Behavior, flying just above the stickers all over the backside of my beat-up, rusting beauty of a car. It runs.
The stickers include IMPEACH, PEACE IS THE WAY, HE'S NOT MY PRESIDENT, and quite a few others. And I live in a small-town, conservative, Bible-beltish, Republican area.
Let's do it. Shall we? The Bandana Revolution. It's a start for a burgeoning Meet-up wherever you or I happen to meet up.
peace ...
How can Bugliosi do such good work on this case and trying to expose the conspiracy behind the RFK killing, but then completely blow the JFK case:
http://www.reclaiminghistory.org/
We all know by now what a heartless coward Bush is. The big question is...how does Laura continue to live with this slimeball? If she'll sleep with him, we can only assume she'll sleep with anybody.