From the Department of Justice to Guantánamo Bay: Administration Lawyers and Administration Interrogation Rules
Testimony before the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties of the House Judiciary Committee
May 6, 2008
What does torture have in common with genocide, slavery, and wars of aggression? They are all jus cogens. That's Latin for "higher law" or "compelling law." This means that no country can ever pass a law that allows torture. There can be no immunity from criminal liability for violation of a jus cogens prohibition.
The United States has always prohibited torture in our Constitution, laws, executive statements, judicial decisions, and treaties. When the U.S. ratifies a treaty, it becomes part of American law under the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution.
The Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, says, "No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification for torture."
Whether someone is a POW or not, he must always be treated humanely; there are no gaps in the Geneva Conventions.
The US War Crimes Act, and 18 USC sections 818 and 3231, punish torture, willfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, and inhuman, humiliating or degrading treatment.
The Torture Statute criminalizes the commission, attempt, or conspiracy to commit torture outside the United States.
The Constitution gives Congress the power to make laws and the President the duty to enforce them. Yet Bush, relying on memos by lawyers including John Yoo, announced the Geneva Conventions did not apply to alleged Taliban and Al Qaeda members. But torture and inhumane treatment are never allowed under our laws.
Justice Department lawyers wrote memos at the request of Bush officials to insulate them from prosecution for torture. In memos dated August 1, 2002 and March 18, 2003, John Yoo wrote the DOJ would not enforce U.S. laws against torture, assault, maiming and stalking, in the detention and interrogation of enemy combatants.
The maiming statute makes it a crime for someone "with the intent to torture, maim, or disfigure" to "cut, bite, or slit the nose, ear or lip, or cut out or disable the tongue, or put out or destroy an eye, or cut off or disable a limb, or any member of another person" or throw or pour upon another person any scalding water, corrosive acid, or caustic substance.
Yoo said, "just because the statute says -- that doesn't mean you have to do it." In a debate with Notre Dame Professor Doug Cassell, Yoo said there is no treaty that prohibits the President from torturing someone by crushing the testicles of the person's child. It depends on the President's motive, Yoo said, notwithstanding the absolute prohibition on torture.
Yoo twisted the law and redefined torture much more narrowly than the Torture Convention and the Torture Statute. Under Yoo's definition, you have to nearly kill the person to constitute torture.
Yoo wrote that self-defense or necessity could be defenses to war crimes prosecutions, notwithstanding the Torture Convention's absolute prohibition against torture in all circumstances.
After the August 1, 2002 memo was made public, the DOJ knew it was indefensible. It was withdrawn as of June 1, 2004, and a new opinion, dated December 30, 2004, specifically rejected Yoo's definition of torture, and admitted that a defendant's motives to protect national security won't shield him from prosecution. The rescission of the prior memo is an admission by the DOJ that the legal reasoning was wrong. But for the 22 months it was in effect, it sanctioned and caused the torture of myriad prisoners.
Yoo and other DOJ lawyers were part of a common plan to violate U.S. and international laws outlawing torture. It was reasonably foreseeable their advice would result in great physical or mental harm or death to many detainees. Indeed, more than 100 have died, many from torture. Yoo admitted recently he knew interrogators would take action based on what he advised.
Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, George Tenet, and John Ashcroft met in the White House and micromanaged the torture by approving specific torture techniques such as waterboarding. Bush admitted he knew and approved of their actions.
They are all liable under the War Crimes Act and the Torture Statute. Under the doctrine of command responsibility, commanders, all the way up the chain of command to the commander in chief, are liable for war crimes if they knew or should have known their subordinates would commit them, and they did nothing to stop or prevent it. The Bush officials ordered the torture after seeking legal cover from their lawyers.
The President can no more order the commission of torture than he can order the commission of genocide, or establish a system of slavery, or wage a war of aggression.
A Select Committee of Congress should launch an immediate and thorough investigation of the circumstances under which torture was authorized and rationalized. The high officials of our government, and the lawyers who advised them, should be investigated and prosecuted by a Special Prosecutor, independent of the Justice Department, for their roles in misusing the rule of law and legal analysis to justify torture and other crimes in flagrant violation of our laws.
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For the complete testimony, click here.
Marjorie Cohn is a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law and the President of the National Lawyers Guild. She is the author of "Cowboy Republic: Six Ways the Bush Gang Has Defied the Law."
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Show AllNow's the time to be an activist,call,E-Mail,organise,don't just sit there.
Hey Puck, the sooner the better... but I don't have a lot of faith in the present pack at the wheel; so I am hedging my bets for a LONGER term outcome: the scales of justice eventually (key word) balance.
Well Siouxrose, are we so close yet far apart: "She is providing an unimpeachable record for that day!"?
I'm feeling and touching with all my being that she is providing an impeachable record for this day and the days of the near future. Do the lessons of the Spiritual Masters compel you to thwart the energy of my words?
For God's sake and more importantly The Troops, start or maintain a conversation on impeachment hearings with your Representative and Mayor on out, first force them out of office somehow (Bishop Thomas Gumbleton once said he thought for the International Criminal Court to succeed there would need to be an amnesty date - think of the Troops still in harms way on this one.
That's why I say focus on forcing a resignation, which for me this article greatly sharpens the argument for - impeachment hearings - and thus at some point that group of Republicans fateful walk to the White House. Of course Bush/Cheney will fight it to the end, but that's ok, as the Wright/Obama narrative attest, the Nation is in for a good conversation and a re-confirmation of the United States Constitution:
Senator John Warner for interim President.
Senator Chuck Hegel for interim Vice President.
One of the first over the top statements of arrogance by the Bush/Cheney administration for me came during the early "Where's Vice President Cheney Day's" - Cheney said, "...if the both of us got knocked off at the same time...the USA would be decapitated". Well, that right there told me they weren't going by the Constitution: one of the Constitution's inherent strengths is the Succession of Power, where even when the 3 Branches of Government meet, along with ranking Generals, and Cabinet members during the State of the Union Address - and yet if that contingency where to be incapacitated within a singular event: this great Nation would prevail and move on.
It is time for a Civics lesson on how great this Nation is - it is time for Impeachment Hearings for George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney.
Warner/Hegal '08
Obama/Kucinich '09
And for God's sake think of The Troops! No interruption in this pathological course for 9 more months? With a possible Reichstag/bin Laden tape McCain victory? Feel for the Troops and their family's, and the "somewhere" around a million Iraqi dead; how many wounded? How many not just foreclosed on: but forced out at gun point and bomb threat...after someone they knew had succumbed to such a fate? 4 to 5 million.
4 to 5 million on the march between war zones...unemployment compensation? Personal savings? Pension? Social Security?
And how many millions more on the continent of this Nation, cower chronically from gun violence due to the lack of social uplift at home, due to the expenses of the atrocities abroad?
It's time to re-confirm the Constitution, it's time change the mission in Iraq, it's time to clarify the "war on terror": it's time for the Impeachment Hearings of George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney
Intelligent, moral lawyers and law professors (like Ms. Cohn) are building their cases for history's own judgment. Although Pinochet and others have seemed to walk off scot-free from similar behaviors, there could come a time in the future when America is so handicapped by the karmic blowback from Bush's inane decisions (inane for the good of the nation, sane for the immediate profits of his small circle of corrupt corporate amigos) that the World Court (or similar body) has REAL clout. She is providing an unimpeachable record for that day!
And just as the legal term "jus cogens" represents "higher law," so, too, do all Masters relate the inviolate nature of the law of karma. The carnage willfully enacted on the basis of so egregious an abuse of power on the part of a handful of neocons and their supporters sets these individuals up for future lives of sacrifice and service to the very ones they robbed of life, liberty and livelihood. I relate this message NOT on my own authority. It represents the fruit of years of research and study of spiritual Masters.
"What the hell is going on?"
Militarism:
A predominance of the military class or its ideals exaltation of military virtues and ideals as well as a policy of aggressive military preparedness. "Support the troops! Support our noble 'heroes'!"
Corporatism:
The organization of a society into industrial and professional corporations serving as organs of political representation and exercising control over persons and activities within their jurisdiction, i.e. military-industrial interests, lobbyists, deregulated and minimally taxed businesses and corporations, as well as the marginalization of labour.
Totalitarianism:
The centralized control by an autocratic authority, i.e. "unitary executive," and the political concept that the citizen should be totally subject to an absolute state authority.
Militarism + Corporatism + Totalitarianism = Fascism.
Basic math.
"After the August 1, 2002 memo was made public, the DOJ knew it was indefensible."
Hold on another damn second - Sen RF explains today that a President can have a knee-padder like Yoo write whatever he wants and it's then an actual law.
If true, then the "memo" cannot be indefensible, because it's a new law, right? And, if still indefensible, why not just have Yoo write another "memo" that says that the Supremacy Clause is no longer operational - which, according to RF, would immediately become a law. And why he's at it, Yoo could "memo" that Geneva is moot - or why not just "memo" that ALL LAWS ARE NOW MOOT??? With a clause that also labels all dissenters of the new law terrorists?
What the hell is going on?
"The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."
Winston Churchill
Book 3, chap V; 1984, by George Orwell -
" At each stage of his imprisonment he had known, or seemed to know, whereabouts he was in the windowless building. Possibily there were slight sifferences in the air pressure. The cells where the guards had beaten him wre below ground level. The room where he had been interrogated by O'Brien was high up near the roof. This place was many meters underground, as deep down as it was possible to go.
It was bigger than most of the cells he had been in. But he hardly noticed his surroundings. All he noticed was that there were two small tables straight in front of him, each covered with green baize. One was only a meter or two from him; the other was further away, near the door. He was strapped upright in a chair, so tightly that he could move nothing, not even his head. A sort of pad gripped his head from behind, forcing him to look straight in front of him.
For a moment he was alone, then the door opened and O'Brien came in.
'You asked me once,' said O'Brien, 'what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everybody knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.'
The door opened again. A guard cam in, carrying something made of wire, a box or basket of some kind. He set it down on the further table. Because of the position in which O'Brien was standing, Winston could not see what the thing was.
'The worst thing in the world,' said O'Brien, 'varies from individual to individual. It may be burial alive, or death by fire, or by drowning, or by impalement, or fifty other deaths. There are cases where it is some quite trivial thing, not even fatal.'
He had moved ta little to one side so that Winston had a better view of the thing on the table. It was an oblong wire cage with a handle on top for carrying it by. Fixed to the front of it was something that looked like a fencing mask, with the concave side outwards. Although it was three or four meters away from him, he could see that the cage was divided lengthways into two compartments, and that there was some kind of creature in each. They were rats.
'In your case,' said O'Brien, 'the worst thing in the world happens to be rats.'"
Hummmmm….. coincidence, I think not, The rats outside of the cage are really worse than the rats inside of the cage….
george, dick, rummy, wolfie, pearlie, rove, addie, tube-yoo and alberto….
sum law firm that… "how to dismantle the constitution in 8 short years…."
its been fun….KCT
Impeach
Try
Convict
Hang & Quarter
There can be no immunity from criminal liability for violation of a jus cogens prohibition.
Wanna bet? USA Incorporated will NEVER permit any of its CEOs to be indicted, let alone tried and convicted, for crimes against foreign nations or their citizens. Doing so would open a Pandora's Box so large that it would threaten the essential mythology upon which their very existence depends.
There may be "no gaps in the Geneva Conventions" insofar as their legal applicability is concerned. But their enforcement against a nuclear-armed rogue nation that is ready and willing to commit the "supreme crime" against peace and humanity creates a pretty large gap of its own. And, unlike impeachment, first use is NOT "off the table", not even against non-nuclear nations.
Ms. Cohn
what did the nurem berg trials and the geneva conevention establish re those who facilitate torture, but do not carry it out themselves?
is giving illegal advice in 'good conscience' an effective defense for those who give such advice?
can advice that is kept secret, and hence undebated, be given in good conscience?
Most people seem to miss that the research Yoo and others carried out at the behest of Chen-Bush began PRE 9/11.