Naw. This ain't about oil. This is just about spreadin freedum and good cheer.

Sorry to be apart of it at all, but damn glad not to be on the receiving end of this bit of Amerikun largess--but we will do our collective suffering for this grossly criminal outrage against mankind.

American Exceptionalism has become a night mare from hell--not exactly a surprise for a nation that has allowed itself to become utterly dependent on resources belonging to people that don't care for us so much. What were we thinking.

I repeat the "Stright Talk Express" does not drive in a straight line. It weaves across lanes. Johnny Bomb Bomb lies to people.

Haaa Haaa Haaa, the first Gulf War was because of control of the Iraqi and Kuwait oil, but not the current five year long war.

Nope, this current illegal war was because of the WMDs that were never there. ___ Haa ha ha. Except it isn't funny Senator McCain and you and I and everyone with any brains knows it's for contol of the Mid-East oil, just as Greenspan wrote it was.

You aren't going to clarify anything. You fumbled your words as 72 year old men like myself may do on occasion. You blurted out the truth. You said the war in Iraq was for oil and you were 100% correct. No clariffication is necessary. Why don't you drop out of the race and let Ron Paul run against Obama or Hillary?

Scary. He reminds me of Ronald Reagan - you know, the President with Alzheimers. I remember when Reagan was governor of California, and his press secretary, Lyn Nofziger was constantly following the governor around, telling the press "That isn't what the governor meant". There are alarming similarities in the mental processes of these two men.

Just for fun, a link to a site of Reagan's "Reign of Errors". It brought back memories, since I had the unfortunate experience of being a California resident when he was governor, and includes many comments by international heads of state regarding his mental faculties as president. I wonder what they will be saying about Bush. I hope they won't have an opportunity to make future comments about McCain. I hope Hillary stops making that a possibility.

http://www.geocities.com/thereaganyears/reaganquotes.htm

kathyodat

Hey Kem, if McCain dropped out Ron Paul just might win.

kathyodat

McCain might be better than we thought. He could have his wife loan the government 100 million to help pay for oil war when the Chinese and Saudi`s won`t give us any more money.

McCain is so confused he doesn`t even know which century he is in and is not likely to improve. Look for a real interesting four years ahead if he gets in.

Typical War Hawk,

Whenever they accidentally tell the truth, they have to clarify with a purposeful lie.

Right on kathyodat, Ron Paul said out of the three, Obama is the best chance to end the war.

So I guess we should be happy that he is only half as delusional as the current occupant of the white House. Somehow though I am not reassured.

I'd have more respect for "Straight Talk" McCain if he would say,

"Of course, this war is about controlling oil. Our responsibility as Americans is to do what's best for America, and that's securing permanent access to oil. Our economy and way of life depend on it. That's what makes this war worth fighting. That's what justifies the casualties we have suffered. That's what justifies a hundred-year occupation, until the oil is gone. If we leave Iraq, we open the way for others to penetrate the country politically and economically and cut us off from that oil. Then we'd be paying $10 or $15 per gallon instead of $3 or $4. Do I want American companies to profit from our occupation? You bet! I'd rather have American companies profit than Iraqi, Chinese, French, Russian or Indonesian. To quote the great Calvin Coolidge, 'The business of America is business.'"

A speech that honest might rally support for the war, for a little while, and improve his standing in the polls. Go for it McCain!

It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad. It's vegetable to vegetable at this point.

~Hi Poet~ The scary thing is, he may be more delusional and war mongering than Bush.

Yay, someone said Ron Paul! ooOOOooo, it'd be good if he were the republican candidate. There is no WAY he would get elected, or selected, or whatever that is that happens, imagine, if he were to get in and trim defense spending to the level required to defend, unemployment would reach at least 20% in most states! Get Ron Paul on the ballot and on the TV and let Diebold sit back and watch this one play out.

I hope it would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world

MICain's rhetoric is evil because it is exactly the US presence/influence creating the volatility in the Middle East. Without US influence on the world, the demand for Middle East oil and the security costs would be moderate, and the US contribution to the radicalization of Islam would be minimal. Without the extreme demand for oil largely driven by the US, the infighting among the tribes and sects of the Middle East would be much less exploitable as a pretext for US imperialism. The zionist enterprise impinges in a similar way.

Armed with the truth as stated above, Americans can disengage from the capitalist, zionist, imperialist propaganda matrix and start to become part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Shift your exchange/association away from the power centers and toward your local community. This will limit your energy consumption to that which can be sustainably produced by small independent local farmers and craftsmen. Only when you severely restrict your exchange/association with the power centers can you become part of the solution.

My head has been exploding over the glacial public/media recognition of the obvious.

Iraq = A military midget with no friends sitting on a sea of money.

For a capitalist, money driven society we sure don't catch on quickly, do we?

The First Great War For Petroleum was conducted by Secretary of War Cheney and President Bush (The First) who looted Arab treasuries to pay for it.
This Second Great War For Patroeum is being conducted by President of Vice Cheney and President Bush (The Second) who are looting American and allied treasuries to pay for it.
Are there any treasuries remaining for a President McBush (The Third) to loot?

Whatfools,
Maybe McBush already knows or will be told the Federal Reserve (private Central bankers) will just keep printing the money as long as foreign nations buy the bonds until the dollar is too risky and worthless.

When that happens his wife's 100 millions will let them last a little longer than us but her accountants will probably advise her to exchange to China's currency before they lose it all.

Then They with Bushes and pals the Clintons can find some safe haven to hide out.

Hey, Why an I giving them Ideas?

I am Sorry! Time to take a break in my bomb shelter.

McCain's mind will be shattered by the events of the near future. He will be rendered silent by ignorance.

Ok so the first gulf war was about oil, and we didn't finish the job. So does that mean that this one was about something else? What else? We went to war over a lie? Seems that if that's the case somebody should be criminally tried in court.
This doddering old fool McCain doesn't seem to know whats happening in the world. I agree with the above post by BeForKids, This fool acts like ronald reagan more and more every day. Maybe he thinks that the yellow brick road full of the B.S. and feel good speaches that reagan took is the way to the white house.
God protect us from fools and patriots.

KEMPATRICK .....i thought you were around my age (42) man you still have it (mind wise) at 70 years old..i hope i'm like you 30 years from now....keep up the good work !

militantliberal.....mccain would never say anything like that......that's polictical suicide.....do you really think that american companies would only profit.......WHAT ABOUT GREAT BRITAIN,AUSTRAILIA,ITALY.ETC

Well JLOVER ya see, when I turned 55 I needed a lot of dental work and it was going to cost $3,500. I got a whole new head transplamt for $1,800 teeth included. Only problem was the one I got went bald.

Hey there ~BIG MOONEY~, you think the economy would suffer under a Ron Paul?

Ya think it's doing so great now? Haaa haaaaaaaaa, ha. Wait a few more months and especially if Bush or McCain bombs Iran. Our economy is already in the toilet and Bush has his hand on the flusher. The money we spend for defense is fine, the money we spend supporting our troops and KBRs Blackwater gang in Iraq is destroying us.

Another thing is, a Ron Paul might be able to cut the corruption with government military contracts, that money and the illegal war money not spent for stupidity, could insure millions of jobs developing clean energy, repairing our failing ifastructures, insuring everyone had decent and affordable health care insuraance, upgrading our education system, etc.

It's easy to condemm Ron Paul for his ideas on militay budgets and I don't agree with all he says, but if I had a choice between Ron Paul and McCain, Paul would get my vote and all of the dead Texas peoples votes. He is from Texas after all, and that's how Lyndon Jonhson won his first election.

Somewhere out there, Republicans think McCain makes sense.

Actually, the "Iraqi government" has already asked the U.S. government to provide a time line for withdrawal. The Bush administration refused to give it.

I wonder if McCain might have the early symptoms of Alzheimer's disease. Imagine if he got to be the President. He would be totally reliant on his "advisors". Just the way such neocon and corporate "adivisers" like it. Definitely no threat of someone developing a concience.

And we would not hear about it very much, until he was no longer the president. Then, like Ronald Reagan, he would be retired to a nursing home, and the media say he was only having the beginning onset of Alzheimer's. They would once again deny that the US president was suffering from advanced Alzheimer's.

For what noble cause?

May 4 (Reuters) - Four U.S. Marines were killed by a roadside bomb in the western Iraqi province of Anbar on Friday, the U.S. military said on Sunday.

Following are the latest figures for soldiers and civilians killed since the U.S.-led invasion in March, 2003:

U.S.-LED COALITION FORCES:

United States 4,070

Britain 176

Other nations 136

Iraqis, ___ a million plus. Not counting Saddam.
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braithwa842 May 3rd, 2008 7:22 pm

Yes, McCain suffers from Alzheimer's disease, or else he has been mentally incapacitated somehow, possibly a result of abuses during his imprisonment in Vietnam.

I rarely watch television, but I must admit there's nothing better for diagnosing mental illness and incapacity in our leaders. For some reason, most Americans evidently cannot see what I see as obvious. McCain is an absolute dullard. Whether it's age or a natural gift I cannot say, and it doesn't much matter. He'll probably win the election.

oh-my-god. Is this the best the GOP has to offer? I guess when you look back, all the Republican presidents since Reagan have been below average in intelligence. Some of them WAY below. And you're right Ghawar--McCain will probably win!

I wonder what the price of oil would be now if we had finished up in Afganistan, got Bin Laden, and then brought everything and everybody home.

How much fuel have we used in 5 years in Iraq with all of the military equipment and the support trucks and planes going constantly? Now we have aircraft carriers in the gulf and still are rebuilding some of what we destroyed over there.

How many vehicles could fill their tanks with what just one aircraft carrier uses? We have thousands of large fuel gulping machines, vehicles, ships , planes, all using immense quantities of fuel.

It might be acceptable if there had actually been a good reason to go into Iraq to protect our country. It appears that our going in for oil ended up with us being much worse off than before. The price of diesel has doubled and gasoline nearly that much since the Bush-Cheney-McCain oil war began.

If you fight over something the value is going to go up!
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I think about how much fuel everything uses to support the occupation when I see the military training here in the US. DAY AND NIGHT! Hey, Supply and Demand
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Albuquerque Journal commented about jokes hurting the U.S. when the Jay Lenos crack jokes like:

Obama, Clinton and McCane went down in a plane crash; who gets saved?
A=The United States

Corporate Media will never get it!

I think the real the biggest reason for the recent spike in oil prices (and food prices) is the devalued dollar. The Fed keeps lowering interest rates, even in the face of a plunging dollar, because our brilliant leader thinks this will stave off a recession long enough for him to get out of office and McCain to get in.

well mccain is right. this war is not about oil. that is it is not just about oil. 50% oil, 50% israel's need to destroy iraq.
the common dream folk assiduously avoid seeing the israel connection in this war.
when the US bombs iran i am sure the folks writing here will not see the israel connection either.
the fact that the israelfirsters wanted this war is not a clue to them.
the fact that lieberman keeps pushing for an attack against iran will not give the folks here a clue that maybe this is something for israel.

The US is not occupying Iraq for oil. The US has the best health care system in the world. If only it were as easy as electing a great storyteller.

"Panama Jack" McCain fails to see that there already IS , "chaos and genocide in the Middle East."

"We should end our dependance on oil, get rid of these dang horseless carriages, and go back to the good old days...you know...when I was a youngun' we......zzzzzzzzzzzz"

Somebody wake Grampa up....

Perhaps it is more than the oil.

The garden of eden was said to have been in southern Iraq. Six thousand years ago, it is likely aliens, the sons of god as they are called, descended into the region as angels of light, and messed around with the daughters of man (Eves). Man was a good but a dumb animal. Despite being warned to stay away, the Eves messed around with the sons of god, who saw the daughters of man were pleasing to the eye. The Eves were tempted by the sons of god as they had a nice set of big apples hanging under their large tree, and the sons of god moved their tree like a serpent and spilled the seeds of knowledge in the Eves. They were evil SOB's, but good in the sack, and when the Adams came to take back their Eves, they got a taste of the Big apples tree serpent in a different orifice. This set the stage for human civilization as a result of the genetic boost given to man, and man became smarter, but not so good as before. They also liked to fight wars and dominate inferior races, and were not content with living the good life.

Maybe they are planning a return, and we are in Iraq to greet the emperor of the galactic empire, who will then rapture us into the New World, transporting us via the God Ships we will be told to report to, which will then take those chosen to "heaven" where they will become genetic food stock or slaves, or simply disposed of as surplus labour. It is possible that Cheney and Bush are really aliens who have infiltrated our government. The elite in fact may all be aliens, or perhaps simply have bloodlines that trace back to the sons of god, confirmed by DNA testing, and it is time to eliminate the inferior races that do not have sufficient genetic linkage to the sons of god (otherwise known as ET).

ET go home.

LOL if you will, but this reality is just as plausible as McCains.

The US of Terrorism is funding weapons development, and training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people to go and kill foreigners every single day, to the tune of trillions of dollars per year.

Said this before I will bet money McCain is the next president. Wake up that is what they want a person that is so controled by outside people he doesn't know what the hell is even going on.
Lets start the bidding at 5000 Quatlu's ( Star Trek)
OK people every time McCain shows up some place in America be that one person who asks or yells out Do you have Alzheimers?

KEM,

McCain is 72? What the HELL are Republicans thinking? Lest you think that last comment is ageist, my concern is centered around his mental faculties, not how many candles are on his cake. 72 seems a bit early for that kind of dementia, but I suppose senility and Altzheimers sets in at different ages for different folk. Come to think of it, after Reagan, shouldn't we as a nation strive to include some sort of minimum level of mental competence along with a 35-year minimum age and having been born in the US as prerequisites? It'd replace MILLIONAIRE status quite nicely, I think.

Regardless of age, you're pretty sharp, KEM. If the Dems implode in childish bickering and Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance, I'm writing your name in, okie? It'd at least be a way to get your clarion call about Arctic methane to a wider audience.

Ohmygosh...that gives me an idea: who among regular CD posters would y'all elect if'n you had the intestinal fortitude to forgo the national candidates? This could get interesting. Mind you, it's all just for fun. Be nice.

MiMiCcS,
I bet Eve tasted a little like pasta. Good post.

MiMiCcS--No more beer for you!

Hey Jim Glover: Just like the Ponzi scheme housing bubble, the dollar already is too risky and worthless. Its just a matter of when it plays out. We could have inflation and stagnation that would make an old banana republic proud.

McCain has so many things wrong its scary. He isn't the best the Republicans can offer, but his timing was good. He certainly tried enough times. The Repubs have unfortunately driven out or marginalized their moderates. It peaked when Santorum went after Arlen Spector but wound up losing is own seat. The neocons could have groomed the next man, say Colin Powell, but in their simple minded hubris, they allowed him and so many others to discredit themselves.

McCain's strategy is to distance himself a bit from Dubya and the cons, and let Hillary and Obama trash each other for him. Seems to be working so far. I can't believe any Republican could be elected after the last 7 years, and I can't believe McCain could be the nominee. Stranger than fiction.

Lets just hope if elected, he keeps the neofascists at arms length, brings in good people, restores law and order in government, gets the US off the Human Rights watch list, and his administration resembles more that of George H W Bush than Dubya's. He might even take a stab at greenhouse gas emissions.

Thoughts_Into_Action - "Somewhere out there, Republicans think McCain makes sense."

No, they think the same way we do about him, but once he became "IT" they put aside those thoughts, and rallied around "Their Man" like good little Borgs. (I wonder if they've purged all those comments on the conservative websites?)

thewonderingyou - "... 72 seems a bit early for that kind of dementia ..."

My sister is 71.5 and is already so far gone that she refers to her husband as "that nice man who takes care of me," (and changes her Depends). She wasn't able to answer questions about her own kids five years ago, and a few years before that was about like McCain is now.

Talking about sharp old guys, they will be recalling healthy 70-something vets back into the service if Iraq goes on much longer.

When an IED goes off under the Bradley, there is no difference between 22 and 72.

Ron Paul and John McCain are the same age but McCain is given a pass because he's a talker.

Ron Paul always makes sense and doesn't need someone prompting him for the next sentence or correcting what he has just said.

Everyone looks for the wrong things in a presidential candidate, and that's why we keep getting duds.

It's frightening to think we will likely have another 'mindless toadstool' like Bush in the White House for 4 more years! This guy is pathetic! He spends his time correcting 'sticking his foot in his mouth' disease statements. Making erroneous statements that people around him have to correct. Making outrageous statements about bombing countries who are currently leaving us alone. He should be giving up politics not running for President! The only reason he won the Republican primary he is acceptable to moderate Republican's where a lot of the other candidates weren't! I hope people wise up and retire this guy before he gets into the White House!

Thing is: If the 2nd gulf war was about WMD (rather than oil,) there's no justification whatsoever for continuing it.

McBomb should be referring to his campaign as the Straight Talk Expresses: i.e., one coming from either side of his mouth.

I think the simple fact of the matter is that McCain will say just about anything that happens to sound good at the moment, even if it's completely inconsistent with what he said in the past, or what he's likely to say in the future.

The Straightjacket Express is running true to form. It gives me chills to think he could be our next president. Another disaster. The commercials aren't lies, they're just doing what I take it you don't want us to do, take you are your word.

He's only in the position he's in because the other fatally flawed candidates dropped like flies. Then the finger pointed at him and it's, Who me? Really?

Blessthebeasts, you're right. From Reagan on they've been dullards. And they've fought off the Democratic nominees by casting them as uppity smart people, not the sort the Republicans want in office. Being intelligent is a drawback.