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The Other Global Crisis: Rush to Biofuels is Driving Up Price of Food
The world's most powerful finance ministers and central bankers are meeting in Washington tomorrow; but as they preoccupy themselves with the global credit crunch, another crisis, far more grave, is facing the world's poorest people.
A dramatic rise in the worldwide cost of food is provoking riots throughout the Third World where millions more of the world's most vulnerable people are facing starvation as food shortages grow and cereal prices soar. It threatens to become the biggest crisis of the 21st century.
This week crowds of hungry demonstrators in Haiti stormed the presidential palace in the capital, Port-au-Prince, in protests over food prices. And a crisis gripped the Philippines as massive queues formed to buy rice from government stocks.
There have been riots in Niger, Senegal, Cameroon and Burkina Faso and protests in Mauritania, Ivory Coast, Egypt and Morocco. Mexico has had "tortilla riots" and, in Yemen, children have marched to draw attention to their hunger.
The global price of wheat has risen by 130 per cent in the past year. Rice has rocketed by 74 per cent in the same period. It went up by more than 10 per cent in a single day last Friday - to an all-time high as African and Asian importers competed for the diminishing supply on international markets in an attempt to head off the mounting social unrest. The International Rice Research Institute warned yesterday that prices will keep going up.
The buffers stocks of staple foods that governments once held are being steadily exhausted.
Rising prices have triggered a food crisis in 36 countries, says the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation. The hike in prices means the World Food Programme is cutting food handout rations to some 73 million people in 78 countries. The threat of malnutrition on a massive scale is looming.
The impact is beginning to be felt in the rich world, too. More expensive wheat has caused large rises in the cost of pasta and bread in Italy where consumer groups staged a one-day strike that brought pasta consumption down 5 per cent. The price of miso, a fermented rice and barley mixture, is up in Japan. France and Australia have launched national inquiries into rising food prices and are pressing food producers and supermarkets to absorb price rises. In Britain, the price of bread is rising in line with the cost of wheat.
Governments have begun to negotiate secretive barter arrangements as the price of agricultural commodities leap to record highs. Ukraine and Libya are close to a deal on wheat. Egypt and Syria have signed a rice-for-wheat swap. The Philippines has just failed in a rice deal with Vietnam.
All across the world, cereals, meat, eggs and dairy products are becoming dearer. "Food prices are now rising at rates that few of us can ever have seen before in our lifetimes," said John Powell of the World Food Programme. Prices are likely to remain high for at least 10 years, the Food and Agriculture Organisation is projecting.
A complex interaction of factors has provoked the panic among dealers in international food markets.
Diets are changing radically in nations such as China, India, Brazil and Russia, where economic growth has boosted meat consumption. In China, it is up by 150 per cent since 1980. In India, it has risen by 40 per cent in the past 15 years. The demand for meat from across all developing countries has doubled since 1980.
Because cattle and chickens are fed on corn - it takes 8kg of grain to produce 1kg of beef - the price has risen.
The new market for biofuels has raised grain prices. Corn is being used to produce energy and the market is anticipating hugely increased production in the coming decade. George Bush wants 15 per cent of American cars to run on biofuels by 2017, which will mean trebling maize production. Europe has a set a transport fuels target of 5.75 per cent from biofuels by 2010. As a result, the price of corn has begun to track that of oil quite closely.
The soaring cost of oil, which last week topped $105 (£53) a barrel for the first time, has another impact. It increases the price of fertiliser, and also the costs of food processing and transport.
Climate change is taking its toll. Droughts and floods are affecting harvests.
Floods in central China this year displaced millions of people and devastated rice and corn crops. Overall China's grain harvest has fallen by 10 per cent over the past seven years. Last year, Australia experienced its worst drought for more than a century, causing the wheat harvest to fall by 60 per cent. The UK wheat harvest is expected to be 10 per cent down this year, partly because of the flooding.
Worldwide, an area of fertile soil the size of Ukraine is lost every year because of drought, deforestation and climate instability.
There is also increasing demand from a rising world population which is expected to grow from 6.2 billion today to 9.5 billion by 2050. The World Bank predicts global demand for food will double by 2030.
Government policies do not help: the rich world subsidises agriculture not to feed the world but to enrich its farmers.
There is an increasing recognition of the gravity of all of this among the leaders of the industrialised world. On Thursday, Gordon Brown called on the Japanese Prime Minister, Yasuo Fukuda, the current chairman of the G8, to devise an international plan to deal with rising food prices with the World Bank, the IMF and the UN.
There is increasing concern about the rush to biofuels. Britain's new chief scientist, Professor John Beddington, has said cutting down rainforest to produce biofuel crops was "profoundly stupid". It was, he said, "very hard to imagine how we can see a world growing enough crops to produce renewable energy and, at the same time, meet the enormous increase in the demand for food".
Lennart BÃ¥ge, the president of the UN's International Fund for Agricultural Development, suggested that those opposed to GM crops should take another look at the productivity gains they can unleash and bring changes as massive as the "green revolution" of the 1960s, when crop yields in India and other developing nations jumped because of of better seeds, fertilisers and improved irrigation.
That change brought down food prices, freeing millions from hunger. If world leaders cannot come up with something similar again, the food riots could spread across the globe.

110 Comments so far
Show AllHey America...
When the food riots start in YOUR hometowns... eat your SUVs.
I didn't imagine this neo-Lib nightmare-assault on the Poor would really 'kick-in' until after we had Clinton's back in the White House. [Guess they got a 'head-start'?]
We are going to regret this latest fad of careless moral error, foisted by some upon others, that over-using the finite fresh water and cropland of the world to make auto fuel instead of food is somehow a good idea. It isn't.
Bio fuels...one of the biggest scams ever to be thrust on an unknowing and not very curious public. There are a few folks getting very rich off this little piece of con artistry. There will be food riots around the world as the speculators load up on commodities, including wheat, corn, rice and all other domesticated grains and plants.
The energy required to turn bio products into fuel is greater than the damn fuel savings. When oh when will we ever learn.
Turning food into fuel is more than just blow-back from a class war the press has chosen to mostly ignore. I believe the corporate media is complicit. Turning other people's food staples into fuel is not only predatory, it's economic genocide on a global scale. It's rich versus poor at the worst possible level where we've become monstrous beasts ripping the food from other people's mouths so we can continue our lives untouched . . . The most obscene part is that corporations have hidden their rapacious hunger behind the green movement by trying to convince us to burn up anything that grows. Go green! Current bio-fuel policies were created by the oil industry to discredit the the viability of alternative fuels and those food riots and food shortages are not proof of a co-opted movement meant to sustain our planet not exploit it to death.
Oil is used to grow the food which is being turned into fuel to power the McCars of the McNation of McSlobs so they can steal even more oil from other nations that are starving because the food they need to survive has been supplanted by crops that go to be fuel to power the McCars of the McSlobs...
And we are fighting pointless wars to continue this insane cycle.
Stop the world.
I want to get off the rat race 'American Dream' treadmill...
I wish the price of corn did mirror the price of a barrel of oil. Oil has gone from 20 bucks to 112. That would mean corn, in relation would be priced at 14.00 a bushel. It is 5.50. The reason that wheat/rice have not been produced was because it was being produced below the cost of production. Enough farmers went broke, production went down because economics dictated that. IF you don't believe me, look at auction sale trends for the past few years and population trends in the rural states. The farmers share of the market basket is at 17%. That is the last figure I have available. The reason that the food has gone up has much more to do with the cost of transportation/packaging/labor etc than the actual raw product.
As far as biofuels, wheat is not used, rice is not used. If not for bio fuels the price of gas would be about .50 higher than it is now. The main reason for the rise of oil prices, and hence food prices is we are at peak production/demand. Also add in the cost of the Iraq invasion and occupation, which has provided a huge instability cost to oil....and here we are.
Just a few facts and thoughts.
Also in response to the person who said bio fuels are propogated by the oil industry. Ahem. The oil industry spends large sums of money to discredit bio fuels as they are a direct compitition to the oil being pumped.
Sigurdur11- Dude, the oil companies OWN the biofuel companies!
If they spent a quarter as much on conservation as they do on this nonsense, they'd have four times the net energy supply to show for it, and the price of all sources of energy would be lower.
I can hear MBA's shrieking when I think things like that...
Fuel guzzler drivers are irresponsible, conservative and stupid, but they have the most guns.
Look - I keep hearing about how little of the cost of finished food goes to farmers. Duh - We don't eat raw grain. The farmers get a fair slice of the grain that is fed directly to farm animals. Do the farmers save grain and eat it, or do they buy finished products from the store? Second - It does not matter if rice and wheat are being used for ethanol. Corn acres replaced wheat acres where ever possible to cash in on the ethanol boom, and other grains are being used in place of corn because corn is expensive due to the ethanol subsidies. Third - The grain shoratage is no accident. These guys are not stupid. The unfair practices of many importing nations have become so bad that the US is demonstrating what happens when grain is in short supply. Boys, this is hardball.
"Lennart BÃ¥ge, the president of the UN's International Fund for Agricultural Development, suggested that those opposed to GM crops should take another look at the productivity gains they can unleash and bring changes as massive as the "green revolution" of the 1960s"
Can someone please inform Lennart BÃ¥ge ASAP that he needs to update his knowledge for the safety of all of humanity. According to figures use of herbicides and pesticides on GM crops has risen and therefore after a few years of false "productivity" we will be hit with a much more serious problem. So what he should demand is that food goes to people not rich peoples cars.
Nadia Renee - You need to get your information from scientific studies from reputable sources like Lennart BÃ¥ge, instead of from activist web pages and tabloids.
Well Mr.Obvious the information that GM crops need more pesticides and herbicides is facts. This will make the soil less productive in the longer run and that can not at all be seen as a sustainable solutions.
"We told you so" is not at all comforting in his situation, but a number of progressive writers and anayists had predicted exactly this crisis over three years ago.
one example from November 2004, is here:
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/11/23/feeding-cars-not-people/
I am a civil engineer, and believe expertise is a good thing in a lot of fields, but in economic, political and social policy (the academic field of socioligy being ignored by policymakers) these goddamn "experts" are leading humanity to disaster!
Nadia Renee - This is Bull. Bt crops require far fewer insecticides, and herbicide-tolerant crops use less of shorter-lived safer weed killers. By what convoluted logic can you come up with GM crops using more pesticides. How can built-in insect resistance and herbicide tolerance increase pesticide use? Why would farmers pay for the GM traits and then spend more money on pesticides? Do you think that they are all stupid? In addition, these crops favor no-till agriculture which has saved countless amounts of top soil. These crops provide such environmental gains that the world's regulatory agencies have declared them "in the public good" like antibiotics, and have required restistance management techniques to be implimented to delay pest resistance. Time to educate yourself and not follow the green cult leaders like a sheep, or have you already swallowed the cool-aid?
Poorer countries will have to get together, and make treaties to protect their food supply. They will have to refuse to sell their grains to the US, Europe, and any other resource glutton. Also, animal production will have to be reduced or halted. For example, you either eat or sell you cows to the US or sell it for bio-fuel. Both of these will have to be halted. Meat export and wheat export for bio-fuels will have to be limited or halted so that their growing, starving populations will survive.
Eventually we will have to do something about overpopulation as well. I say we start by educating women and working to extend their rights beyond child-bearing.
Galen,
Oil co's do not own the bulk of ethanol plants.
Shankari,
The US is an exporter of grain, Europe is an exporter of grain.
Mr. Obvious,
The main reason that there is a shortage of wheat is economic. I grow the durn stuff. To give you an example:
In 2002 I grew over 1,000 acres of wheat. By 2007 I grew 154 acres of wheat. I replaced the wheat acres with edible beans, which are also not used to produce ethanol.
I couldn't afford to grow wheat except for rotation purposes. Every acre was a huge loss to me.
In real dollars, if you used just 1970 as the baseline,
Corn should be 12.42
Wheat should be 24.18
Has it gotten there? Not even close. And that is the reason that rural areas like ND have been suffering so greviously. We have been feeding people for less than cost and by doing so, people go broke fast and leave. Look at National Geographic for Jan or Feb I believe.
The few tons of corn that are used for bio-fuels on the world stage are not the problem. The huge increase in energy costs are the problem.
We need more electric cars/wind energy/solar energy. To become energy indepenant would require about 500 billion in our country. Ref Scientific American Feb article.
Last I heard we spend way more than that on wars for control of the oil.
That is a travesty in and off itself.
Just my thoughts.
Sigurdur:
"The reason that wheat/rice have not been produced was because it was being produced below the cost of production."
Huh? How can you produce something "below the cost of production"? Go back and take Logic 101.
"Enough farmers went broke, production went down because economics dictated that. IF you don't believe me, look at auction sale trends for the past few years and population trends in the rural states."
Farmers have been doing very well. Median household income of US farmers has been over the median of non-farm households since 1996 and the spread has widened dramatically since 2004. Also, production doesn't decline if a farmer goes broke because another farmer takes his place. Mechanization, better job opportunities off-farm and extremely large capital requirements to farm are reasons for the farm exodus just as they have been for more than a century.
"The reason that the food has gone up has much more to do with the cost of transportation/packaging/labor etc than the actual raw product."
Poor third world people do largely consume the "actual raw product" and often spend 50% of their income to feed themselves. If the price of grain doubles, which it has, that has a disastrous effect on their standard of living.
"As far as biofuels, wheat is not used, rice is not used."
Yes, but non-biofuel crops must compete for acreage with biofuel crops so the price must rise to provide incentive to grow non-biofuel crops.
" If not for bio fuels the price of gas would be about .50 higher than it is now. "
Biofuels currently make up about 2% of global fuel consumption. The tiny increase in supply reduces gasoline costs perhaps a $.15 a gallon at most. But now the 25% (and rising) proportion of US corn that goes into ethanol is responsible for doubling the price of corn, at least. IN this marketing year 3.1 bil. bu. corn will be used for ethanol vs. this year's surplus at 1.2 bil. Take that 3.1 bil. to the bottome line of the balance sheet and we have a 4 bil. bu. surplus and corn prices at $1.50 vs. $6 per bu.
"the person who said bio fuels are propogated by the oil industry. Ahem. The oil industry spends large sums of money to discredit bio fuels as they are a direct compitition to the oil being pumped."
True enough, but the oil industry, not the ethanol industry, gets the $.51/gal. blenders tax credit to simply add ethanol to their gas. They're making good money off of ethanol, thanks to your tax dollars.
"
shankari25 - Government reform and education (including birth control) are probably the biggest needs in these countries. I do not think that most of these countries have a problem with too much consumption of animals or animal products (milk). This is a problem of "developed" countries.
Per the suggestion of someone else here at CD (I think it was Poet), I obtained the book: "Alcohol Can be a Gas" by David Blume: http://www.alcoholcanbeagas.com/ . I haven't finished reading the book yet, but it is very interesting and I recommned it for those who want to learn more about bio-fuels.
This book advocates ethanol production in an "ecologically appropriate" manner. It speaks to several myths regarding alcohol as a fuel. Many of these myths have been propagated by big oil for whom widescale use of ethanol as a fuel would be a threat to their profits.
Ultimately, if done properly, use of bio-fuels can be an integral part of implementing solutions to many of today's challenges, so I think it is important to understand the possibilities rather than dismissing bio-fuels out of hand.
Furthermore, I suspect that increased food prices are more the result of capitalist greed and misguided government policies than anything else.
Peace,
Ken
Mr Obvious and freeranger- Excellent job of laying out the facts.
Free Ranger,
Below the cost of production is when you borrow the money to grow in in hopes the price will rise above the cost. When you can't pay the bank back, it is amazing how testy they get.
Income of farmers:
The real income of farmers has gone down dramatically. If you have this large capitalization....what is the rate of return on assets? And what risk are you experiencing. The reason I ask that is I am still farming, but my banker is becoming very very testy. My income is within the national norms, but I can't seem to purchase machinery needed to continue. A combine costs 310,000, tractor 190-400K just to name a few items. That is what is called below the cost of production.
You can't grow corn in most of ND, nor Manitoba, Sask, Alberta etc. It is a grass cereal country. But we sure do try and not grow one bushel of wheat if we can avoid it.
Anyways, good luck all. As a producer of raw product I have an understanding of the costs. I don't think this temp bump in price will restore our schools etc out here, but maybe it will stop the exodus. Time will tell.
Sigurdur11 - The calculations you provide for "what grain should cost" ignores increased yields and efficiencies. Its not about the cost of each bushel but about net income per farm enterprise. As yield and efficiency goes up, each bushel should be cheaper per bushel in real terms (that is the benefit of these improvements). You know these grain figures are bogus. Are you making less net profit today then the boom years of the 70's? Well if so, maybe it is not economical to farm in SD on the scale that you are operating?
Also Free Ranger:
China used to be a net exporter of corn. On a global scale, and being we are a global grain supplier, our share has increased to almost 100% verses around 60% a few years ago. China exported way more than 3.1 billion bushels.
And also Free Ranger, the DDG from corn are a much better feedstock than corn itself.
As I said, the total used in ethanol on the global scale not a significant volume.
Jane's Intelligence Review was right. I posted this last year it was a July 2007 release:
http://www.janes.com/press/press/pc070716_1.shtml
Good info is hard to come by. Oh well
Reuters has just posted an update on the food riots in Haiti this afternoon:
PORT-AU-PRINCE, April 12 (Reuters) - Haiti's government fell on Saturday when senators fired the prime minister after more than a week of riots over food prices, ignoring a plan presented by the president to slash the cost of rice.
More details here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/homepageCrisis/idUSN12217781._CH_.2400
Mr Obvious:
In the 70's I was getting 60-70 bushels per acre of wheat. There have not been dramatic increases in wheat yeilds from genetics for some time.
In 1975 I bought a 110 hp tractor for 11,000 dollars. That equated to 2,200 bushels of wheat. That comparable hp now costs 111,000. Local wheat price was 9.05 on Friday.
Now that hp costs 12,265 bushels of wheat. When you pull farm draft machinery it is hp that pulls it.
This has been coming on for a long long time. I also grow potatoes. I was at a meeting in Florida a few years back and Burger King knew that even spuds were being bought below cost of production. Their statement was they didn't care as long as they could do it. The piper is coming home to pay for them now as the supply of spuds in this area and even in Idaho is falling dramatically.
Banks have no humor at all these days, and there is crp land coming out that no one will rent. Give you an idea of what is really going on?
Sigurdur11 - Are you seriously alleging that the ethanol subsidies have not been a major contributor to the record grain prices?
http://agebb.missouri.edu/news/ext/showall.asp?story_num=4289&iln=908
Mr. Obvious:
The ethanol subsidies have been a contributor to higher corn prices. Not a major contributor tho. Chinas decline on the export front has been THE major contibutor.
We have been producing ethanol in this country for years without a increase in the price of corn. Exit China from the world supply front tho, and now there is a price increase. The reason China has quit exporting is that their countries standard of living has increased and they are demanding more meat products etc, hence they are consuming their production. Also South Africa had a poor crop. You have to look at global numbers to really understand what is going on. If Ethanol was the main driver, you would see increased prices in the US but not the world market.
That is the crux of it all. We are in a world market again whether we like it or not.
We used to be the supplier of last resort as there was a grain embargo in the 70's that killed our export market. Now we are once again a supplier.
The Consumer Price Index for food rose 4 percent in 2007, more than the CPI for all goods and services. "Much of that increase came from rising energy prices, which increased costs all along the marketing chain including the farm level," said Scott Brown, FAPRI livestock analyst.
Mr. Obvious, there it is in a nutshell as far as this country goes.
Sigurdur11 - Read the rest of the article. No one said that ethanol was the only cause. Please read the whole thing. The CPI in the US is not the issue. Its the price of grain for 3rd-world countries. No one in the US is going to be seriously hurt by this increase in food prices.
Some selected excerpts from the article. This is not the whole story but it is a major contributor.
"Corn receives major attention in the report. Ethanol demand for corn almost doubled from 2005 to 2007, with nearly 4 billion bushels to be used from the crop to be harvested this fall. FAPRI projects corn for ethanol will almost equal the bushels fed to U.S. livestock by 2015, Brown said."
"Projected wheat prices remain higher than in years before 2006, because of higher prices for corn and other crops. "
Mr. Obvious- I read the whole article. We shall see what the cost of raw products (grains) is after this production year. I do think the days of "cheap" food are gone now that India and China have booming economies. Russia has filled some of the gap in production, and Australia looks to have a promising crop coming. The crop in the US is still suspect, as the western wheat belt is dry and the soft red wheat areas are too wet. Also, Canada's major wheat areas are quit dry. ND is the largest producer of spring wheat in the US and our western 2/3'ds is very dry.
We went through this price spike type thing in the middle 70's as farmers. To give you an indication of production costs wheat in ND is projected to be up only about 600,000 acres. The prices of mach/fert/fuel etc plus the discounts when wheat was in ample supply have basically driven it to a crop of last resort, rotation only.
I am not sure if the increase in farm income will keep up with the increase in costs. And if you burrow deeply into the government reports you will find them really interesting in the statistical analysis when it comes to profits. It seems they forget to include standard economic models of costs.
I am not complaining as it is what it is, but the main reason for the rise in food is that the cost verses expense to grow the durn stuff has finally come home to roost. And I am only talking raw costs. When a box of corn flakes has 7 cents worth of corn in it at todays prices and the box costs Kellogs 21 cents, there is something wrong with this picture wouldn't you say?
Global Famine begins. At least one of the apocalypse horsemen is up in the saddle and roaming around. The high cost of oil is starting to bite. And the local solar alternatives have not been adopted enough to make a big difference. For many people it will be too late.
Once again,
You have to look at global supplies. In this country, ethanol use will increase.
If I took the .15 cents a gallon that someone put in here as the reduction in fuel costs to an average consumer because of ethanol, what is the net effect on the whole in the country? And also, what is the economic effect of ethanol production to our economy as a whole? Not only in the gas price savings but in the increased economic activity in the country as a whole, rather than importing more oil?
IF China was still exporting 6 billion bushels of corn, would what we are doing have much of an effect on the world market?
Sigurdur11 - Do you make bread from your wheat or do you buy bread from the store? If you want the convenience of "store bought" packaged goods, then you pay what the market will bear. Like I tried to emphasize before, processed food prices in the US are not the issue. I seriously doubt that we will see riots over corn flakes.
The pressure for revolt in Iraq must also increase, as anything that presses on the already desperate Iraq population will bring about further violence. Rising food prices may trigger a further descent into chaos.
Mr. Obvious,
Yes we make bread from our wheat. We haven't bought a store loaf in years as it just upset us that we could make a loaf for less than 40 cents and it would cost us over 2 bucks in a store. Don't know how to make corn flakes tho.
Look - Domestic ethanol subsidies are simply clever ways to get aroung WTO rules against Ag subsidies. We can buy Brazilian ethanol cheaper than we can make the stuff. Without tarriffs on the Brazilian ethanol, grain prices would be much lower. I am not even arguing against the Ag subsidies because other countries, like the EU. are playing the same games. Unfortunately the poor get hurt in this economic game. If people get hungry, our grain will be worth more than oil.
Sigurdur11 - How much money could you make flipping burgers at McDonalds in the time it takes you to make a loaf of bread? Maybe you should consider consulting with an economist on your farm operation if you are making a loaf of bread to save $1.60?
Mr. Obvious:
You have hit the nail on the head. In all reality, I don't want anyone in the world to be hungry. The whole grain/fuel/clothing thing is so much more complicated than ethanol or bio fuels. Most of the anti biofuel opinions come from think tanks funded by oil co's. My 1st cousin, retired this year from Tessoro, told me how much money they give to combat bio fuels as it scares them.
I would love to see more wind towers, which just to the west of me there were 132 built last year come online. I would gladly pay more for electricity produced from them and solar. I would find a way to buy an electric car if there was one produced that could go over 40 miles. My main trade area is 17 miles away, and that is the machinery parts trade area. The largest city within 100 miles is 65,000 people. That is one of the costs to us rural folks of cheap food prices. Some schools in western ND have bus routes over 120 miles long to get enough kids to make a school. It is sad but it is reality.
As a farmer I am not only conservative in political values, but also very conservative in real life values. Waste not, want not per se. I am a good steward of the land, and contrary to popular retoric, do not use chemicals to just use chemicals. I drink the water I have under me, I breath the air around me.
We have huge untapped resources of energy between solar and wind which are being developed way to slowly. I am not an advocate of government spending, but in this case, being what I consider infrastructure I am. It would be wonderful for the nation as a whole. Not good for the oil co's, but the horse and buggy seemed to go by the wayside some time ago and we survived that.
We are protecting oil in the Middle East, as we think we have a "right" to do so. I have no doubt that we would leave that area in a heartbeat if we were energy independant. But between the military industrial complex, which Ike warned us about in his parting remarks, and the money that oil has to throw around, I don't forsee us leaving it anytime soon unless Americans actually read and educate themselves. We will need a leader who in interested in the United States, not who is interested in what corps and power can do, to really benifit from our resources. Will that happen? I don't know but I would love to be President for a year.
It is kinda like medical costs. There is a limit on the amount of doctors that schools will put out. It is back to econ 101. supply verses demand. Keep doctors in short supply and costs will go up.
Anyways, it has been a great discussion Mr. Obvious. I respect your knowledge and I bet you are a conservative as well, as you haven't attacked me personally, but we got to discuss facts. Thank you.
Mr. Obvious:
It takes us less than 2 mins to make a loaf of bread. Panasonic has a greattttttt bread making machine. Works out to a great hourly wage.
Sigurdur11 - I have also enjoyed our discussion and have learned from you. I do wish you well in your farming and life. I don't really know if I would call myself a conservative because I really don't want to tell others how to live unless they are hurting someone else or asking me to support their indulgences. I think that the federal government is into too many things and is too big. While I would be inclined to leaving the presidency vacant for 4 years as opposed to electing one of the bozos running this round, I will have to vote for Obama because I cannot vote republican after the fiasco we have experienced, and I cannot vote for Bill's wife who stood beside him and helped him lie to the American people. Better to spend billions to help the poor than to spend it waging war to save a people who are not willing to stand up for themselves. We are not likely to bring peace to an area that has been waring for 3,000 years. Best of luck this season. We need some warmer dry weather in my neck of the world so I can work our small plot of ground.
Ultimately, we are bumping up against the limits nature has set for us. Those of us in the rich world simply can't continue to live the comfortable life we've known for the last 50 years. So no more driving everywhere, no more long showers, etc. Either we all learn to live sustainably, or there will be nothing left for anyone. Too bad the Conservatives might win in Britain and McCain in the U.S. Those are the kind of governments that will encourage people to maintain their unsustainable ways of life. Oh well. Guess I'll sit in my room and watch us do ourselves in.
The greed of current day capitalism exceeds all hubris.
As long as the monied classes can rip off the remainder of humanity and starve it in the process in order to keep even more control of resources is exceedingly criminal.
The rich had better watch for there is more of us than them and no matter how much power the rich wields, paybacks are a mother_______!
http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/04/10/energy-doesnt-grow-on-trees/#comments
There is a demand deficit in Mexico for the output of Mexican farmers practicing the thousands-years old traditional methods thanks to illegal NAFTA dumping by El Greedy Gringo. Nutritional values of traditional Mexican varieties measure far greater than those of El Greedy Gringo's petro-fired genetic-mutant corpo-corn. This is because corpo-corn is engineered to maximize macronutrients, protein, starch and fat, and neglects micronutrients.
In all the micronutrient comparisons so far revealed the traditional varieties in Mexico are far superior to the corpo-corn from Greedy Gringoland, and it's extremely likely that EVERY micronutrient would compare likewise. This would come as no surprise because the Mexican soil has been maintained for all of these thousands of years by sustainable methods. One such method is rotation that allows deep rooted plants to pull minerals up from the deep soil and deposit them in the topsoil. Another method in traditional reliance on their plant's own phytochemicals for pathogen resistance. Not surprisingly these same phytochemicals transfer similar resistance to the consuming animal. The traditional plants are themselves more water and nutrient efficient among other things.
So the ethanol-fired price inflation on corpo-corn is an opportunity for Mexico to revive its great agricultural traditions. If there is only one lesson to learn from the planet's unfortunatel experience with Gringo Capitalism it is this: DO NOT DEPEND ON EL GREEDY GRINGO FOR ANYTHING OR YOUR RACE, CULTURE, TRIBE WILL DIE.
The hysterical screaming over biofuels is the subversive work of El Greedy Gringo to further his "goal of goals" to divide the progressive, peasant, people's movements. Indepedent biofuels production happen to be one of the peasant's keys to emancipation from El Greedy Gringo.
Some day, a wealthy person weighing about 180 pounds will yield about 75 pounds of edible meat. At that time, the wealthy will have achieved their true worth.