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John Yoo's Tortured Explanations
"John Adams," that entertaining and instructive TV mini-series based on David McCullough's biography, is a reminder that in some respects nations are created as much from rancor and ego as they are from hope and goodwill.
In the television version of the irascible Mr. Adams' saga, democracy triumphs. Still, while watching it, I can't help but be a little depressed by the thought that while the Founding Fathers sought to build a government of laws rather than men and were crafting such worthy documents as the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, the current administration's legacy to history will be a series of documents that chose to subvert the very Constitution that Adams, Jefferson, and the others battled so hard to create.
These documents reveal themselves slowly and reluctantly, as if to acknowledge that those who wrote them know deep in their souls that what they have done is wrong and antithetical to the ways of a republic.
The latest to ooze its way to the surface, thanks to a Freedom of Information Act suit by the ACLU, is the March 14, 2003, memo written by John Yoo, former deputy in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC), an acolyte of David Addington, Vice President Cheney's chief of staff and former Cheney legal counsel.
Contrary to claims that the abuses at Abu Ghraib and other prisons were contrived by subordinates on the ground -- i.e., "hicks with sticks" -- Yoo's 81-page memo rationalizes motive and establishes the bar for virtually every human rights violation that has taken place in the name of fighting the global war on terrorism.
It is, in the words of Dan Froomkin, author of the Washington Post's irreplaceable "White House Briefing" blog, "a historic document... the ultimate expression of Cheney's belief that anything the president or his designates do -- no matter how illegal, barbaric or un-American -- is justifiable in the name of national self-defense.
"It is also an example of how enabling zealots to disregard the rule of law and the customary boundaries of human conduct leads to madness."
Froomkin's description of the memo was echoed by the Post's Dan Eggen and Josh White, who added, "Nine months after it was issued, Justice Department officials told the Defense Department to stop relying on it. But its reasoning provided the legal foundation for the Defense Department's use of aggressive interrogation practices at a crucial time, as captives poured into military jails from Afghanistan and U.S. forces prepared to invade Iraq.
"...The memo provides an expansive argument for nearly unfettered presidential power in a time of war. It contends that numerous laws and treaties forbidding torture or cruel treatment should not apply to U.S. interrogations in foreign lands because of the president's inherent wartime powers."
It was this memo, among others, that was shown to Major General Geoffrey Miller, who had been in charge of detainees at Guantanamo Bay, when he was reassigned to "GITMO-ize" detention operations in Iraq ("GITMO-ize" being the word he used to Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, then commander of military prisons in Iraq, including Abu Ghraib).
Perhaps not insignificantly, as noted by Georgetown law professor Marty Lederman, formerly with the OLC, "The vast majority of the criminal abuse in Iraq occurs between Miller's arrival and December 2003 (In December 2003, new OLC head Jack Goldsmith informed the Pentagon that it should no longer rely on John Yoo's legal analysis.)."
As if this weren't enough, a footnote in the March 2003 memo reveals a second John Yoo masterpiece that blithely undermines the Constitution; in this case, the Fourth Amendment right of the people to be secure against unreasonable searches and seizures.
Written on October 23, 2001, not even a month and a half after 9/11, this still-classified Justice Department memo, titled, "Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activities Within the United States," held that the Fourth Amendment had no bearing on domestic military operations.
Although now disavowed by the White House, according to the Associated Press, "For at least 16 months after the Sept. 11 terror attacks in 2001, the Bush administration believed that the Constitution's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures on U.S. soil didn't apply to its efforts to protect against terrorism."
AP quoted Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU's National Security project: "The administration's lawyers believe the president should be permitted to violate statutory law, to violate international treaties and even to violate the Fourth Amendment inside the U.S. They believe that the president should be above the law."
In 1977, most of us laughed in astonishment after a disgraced Richard Nixon said to David Frost, "When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal." Turns out that belief is standard operating procedure in the White House of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and their enablers, such as David Addington and Yoo, who now teaches at the University of California, Berkeley.
According to several sources, one of the "inspirations" for the techniques used against real-life detainees has been the Fox TV series, "24." In my own mental TiVo, the great John Adams is to John Yoo what the intelligent "John Adams" TV series is to a different program on Fox, that sordid reality game show, "The Moment of Truth," in which contestants are hooked up to lie detectors and interrogated about infidelities and other vices.
But on the game show, only the viewers are tortured.
Michael Winship, president of the Writers Guild of America, East and former writer with Bill Moyers, writes this weekly column for the Messenger Post Newspapers in upstate New York.
copyright 2008 Michael Winship



42 Comments so far
Show AllDavid Addington and John Yoo are co-chairs of the Hans Frank Totalitarian Law League (American Division).
Why would any university (other than Pepperdine, Oral Roberts or Jim Jones) hire either of these guys?
there is only one terrorist organization, and it goes by the initials "USA"
Proves once again that ignorance of history can be found at every level of society, no matter what the level of learnin'
Clearly, Yoo and Addington and the people they toady for believe the constitution was for dealing with the Limeys and other furriners, way back when, but whatever the Government does now is ok under the law that Might Is Right.
Cool. Can we queue up to waterboard Yoo, or do we have to take numbers?
Where did the show "24", credited as inspiration for the techniques used against real-life detainees, come from? Didn't the pentagon call hollywood producers together in early 2002 to see how they could help? My memory is vague on this, but it's there somewhere. I know that the one episode i watched in it's early days made me wonder if the show was a pentagon product.
Yeah, Fox TV... first to declare Bush the 'winner' against all evidence on election night 2001.
Whare are the missing emails.....?????
Waxman, Conyers.... and the rest of you self described "hard hitters" are a bunch of lightweight pseudo-humans with no stomach for the real truth....
Missing Sidelined Media is just a coverup and distraction tool used by the corporate government.
A plague to all.....!!!!
KCT
Used to be the USA was admired for the rights of its citizens.
Now it's hated and feared for its wrongs.
Sometimes a defendant's reliance upon erroneous advice given by legal counsel can constitute a valid defense to criminal charges, but it is a slender reed to lean upon. Good public prosecutors will often simply charge both the lawyer and the client with criminal conspiracy to head off such disingenuous contrivance early on.
Although I've never read John Yoo's 81-page memo, I did wade through a similar tome of legalism he authored that was made public a couple of years back when the warrantless NSA domestic surveillance program first surfaced.
The internal logic of Yoo's unitary executive, Commander-in-chief war powers theory hinges upon a very bizarre analogy: since everybody agrees it's not only entirely legal but also laudable for American field commanders to secretly intercept and exploit the enemy's communications on a battlefield in time of declared war without getting some judge's approval, by waving our hands and verbally announcing the war on terror is a war, then it magically also becomes legal and laudable to subject ordinary citizens' domestic communications to secret surveillance without a judicial warrant.
This strained logic works (by analogy) if and only if the federal executive branch can equate the rights of its own peaceful citizenry to the rights of hostile enemy soldiers engaged in belligerent acts.
But Indianapolis is as different from Iwo Jima as Newark is from Normandy beach, you say?
Picky, picky, respond the neo-con gurus of the Federalist Society like Mr. Addington and Mr. Yoo. Try and stop us if you can.
When the dust settles and George Bush, Dick Cheney, and friends finally pack up and leave the White House in a mess for the next occupant to clean up, part of the process should be holding some lawyers ethically accountable for aiding and abetting in some high crimes and sordid misdemeanors.
Bill from Saginaw
militantliberal: Why would any university (other than Pepperdine, Oral Roberts or Jim Jones) hire either of these guys?
Yeah - is UC actually letting these clowns teach this crap?
The Constitution was written to help Americans build and maintain a country. Somewhere along the line, the purpose was changed. Now the Constitution is being used to build an empire. Actually, it's being used to prop up a rapidly declining empire.
Hoa binh
It's ironic that this neocon cadre uses one hand to prepare elaborate legal arguments to circumvent Constitutional protections while using the other to pack the Supreme Court with so-called "originalists" who prepare elaborate legal arguments to ensure that the Constitution of the 1790's must never be interpreted to reflect evolving societal values.
In both cases, the result is not government by laws but government by sophistry.
A couple of weeks ago someone wrote a letter to the LA Times editorial page stating that he felt the US was almost trying to make new enemies. I for one believe that is exactly what is going on. The reason they keep saying this 'war on terror' could be never ending is the very actions of the US gov't. itself. There is no logical reason to torture people, as the information extracted is notoriously unreliable. The only possible purpose is to create more and more folks that hate the US. (no war, no money for the dept. of defense) Also, never lose sight of the fact, this is a clear message to all of us- Get out of line, and you could be next!
U. S. Constitution - R.I.P.
"I don't think anyone in their right mind can approve of torture."
–Isabelle Allende on Democracy Now, yesterday.
Bush and Cheney want to crush your child's testicles
John Yoo wants to crush your child's testicles
John Yoo is the former WH lawyer that helped clear away such tiresome and meddling concepts as the Bill of Rights and the Geneva Conventions, so Bushco could wage unlimited war on anyone they choose, thru Yoo's "torture" memos and his work on the Patriot Act.
In explaining the Unitary executive theory, Yoo made the following statements during a December 1, 2005, debate in Chicago, Illinois, with Notre Dame Law School Professor Doug Cassel:
Cassel: If the President deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person's child, there is no law that can stop him?
Yoo: No treaty.
Cassel: Also no law by Congress. That is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.
Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.[11]
Just think!!! At the same time your child's getting his nuts crushed by some Bushco goon, the father would be under going waterboarding to extract dubious information.
Is America a great country under the Bush/Cheney Junta or what?
"Hey, put down that pliers.....aaahhahh..."
John Yoo will go down in history as the Wilhelm Stuckart of the United States. Where they differ is that Stuckart actually wrote law, whereas Yoo perverted it. They both served evil though.
John Yoo is Korean, so not sure if this applies, but in Japan when a man is shamed beyond belief he simply ends his life with a ritual knife. Mr. Yoo, just do it -- a small step to redeem yourself.
BILL FROM SAGINAW: Thanks for breaking it down. I see it the way you do and it just blows the mind that this shit can pass for viable legal theory and practice!
I remember a time when UC Berkeley was considered a bastion of the Left. What happened?
With Yoo teaching "Law", one wonders if these particular torture briefings are part of the curriculum and in what way this affects the thought processes of the students.
Is anyone, reading this, aware of the reception Yoo receives from these students.Pity the state of the American justice system if these students are nodding sagely with every utterance from the vile mind of the Yoo's of the world.
UC Berkley;
Shame on you to invite; Shame on you to keep.
Truth_Forward is right.
Are UC Berkley students asleep ?
Why is the alumni keeping quiet ?
I hope Mr Yoo takes a fancy to travel outside the US.
A prosecutor or two are waiting for him!
Why hasn't the BAR Association had Yoo disbarred?
Rufus
You're (erroneously) assuming that Yoo has some sense of shame. If one has no sense of decency, how can one feel shamed?
John Yoo is another associate masterpiece of what will go down in history as the "Bush Deception Era".
Like the wiretapping issue, the defense of torture by the United States White House is just another grave abuse of executive power.
I would never send my child to study at Berkley Law School while this man is teaching there!
When I was a kid and Castro railed about yankee imperialism I thought he was being silly, exaggerating. I couldn't understand why anybody would dislike the US. Today my eyes are open to the true nature of this country. I am starting to see clearly how militarism permeates the whole culture. I undestand now the why of violent movies and thing being blown up everywhere. I understand the school shootings. I see now that the games of cowboys and indians were part of the sickness of society and I can scarcely believe I cheered the cavalry coming to the rescue in those awful kill indians movies. I bought it hook,line and sinker. I was a fool, but no longer. The mask is off.
WillieB: Torture is carried out, not to make new enemies, but for the pleasure of revenge and torturing itself. Having an excuse allows you to engage in this kind of pleasure, revenge. This revenge could simply be against your father or kids that were mean in school or the girlfriend who left. This society is full of angry people with curious notions of good and evil, more than enough to find someone willing to engage in torture. Evil, punishment, capital punishment, all part of the Calvinist foundation of the nation.
Although lawyers often disagree, there are limits. It is unethical and unlawful to advise a client to violate the law, as Yoo clearly did. It's a sad commentary that UC Berkley, an otherwise reputable law school, keeps a man scarcely morally different from some Nuremburg defendants on its faculty, that students do not boycott his classes and call for his removal, and that the Bar does not take action against him. These memos are not legal analysis, but sophistry in the service of felonious behavior.
Canuckchuck,
Terrorist Organization goes by the name of "Bush Republicanderthals" and not USA. Most of us are repulsed by Bush and his actions.
I can wrap up my comments in two words:
SCREW YOO!!!
If you torture a cat, it's a felony; but if you torture swarthy Muslim men from some Middle East sandbox it's National Security. Truly ironic: he would have been hung as a war criminal for issuing a memo like that for the Nazi regime.
And with all this, impeachment is off the table? One is hard pressed to imagine circumstances or behavior that could ever reach the bar of "High crimes and misdemeanors" if what this group of criminals has done does not reach it. A blow-job leads to impeachment while "legalized" torture does not?.... WTF???
The war crimes trials will come. These hateful people may be able to escape persecution for a time, but that will not last forever.
william street April 8th, 2008 1:32 pm (Bill from Saginaw wrote, "When the dust settles and George Bush, Dick Cheney, and friends finally pack up and leave the White House in a mess for the next occupant to clean up, part of the process should be holding some lawyers ethically accountable for aiding and abetting in some high crimes and sordid misdemeanors."
I concur completely, but the likelihood of that ever happening are as slim as an "ice cube's chance in Hell." Since we can presume with 99% reasonable accuracy, that our dispicable elected officials (and their cronies) will never be held to account to the very Congress who--in case no one has noticed--has also aided and abetted them by their not-so-benign neglect of their duty to protect the Constitution, maybe it's time someone finds a pool of talent who could represent the citizens of the United States at the World Court? Why not start a movement to bring a case for crimes against humanity against these scroundrels. Screw Congress! It would start the process of clearing our names and show the world that our government is no longer OUR government. In so doing, it just might get enough of a majority of the citizentry-- who have been sleepwalking and shopping their way through the last quarter century--to get angry enough to become politically engaged again, in a revolutionary sense. By "revolution" I mean in the sense that we create a strong, third party movement composed of ETHICAL elected representatives. If we could do THAT, we might just break the monopoly of the two-headed single party that has sold us--and the rest of the World's citizens--down the river and restore our nation and our Constitution to it's rightful place in history. Alas, I think the tipping point has already passed us and nothing we do will matter or effect change.
Jude Montarsi, Lock Haven, Pennsylvania.
Reading that Yoo is teaching at Berkeley momentarily startled me.But then reflecting on the changes here in Madison since the Vietnam War put all this into a better perspective. The Univ. of Wisconsin was second only to Berkeley in the resistance to the Vietnam War.The College Republicans seldom made an appearance.Now the right wing campus newspaper circulates more copies than the venerable Daily Cardinal and almost all the attention and resources go to the business school.
The neo-cons have consolidated their power bases in every part of our society and I can't be optimistic for our future-but I take solace in CD and hope that other posters here feel likewise.
smilodon: Most of us are repulsed by Bush and his actions.
If you mean CD posters I agree. If you mean Americans, I don't think so.
This is late...but Williamstreet commented in his/her excellent post that the strained logic of the Yoo executive powers idea that:
"This strained logic works (by analogy) if and only if the federal executive branch can equate the rights of its own peaceful citizenry to the rights of hostile enemy soldiers engaged in belligerent acts."
Now another little interesting fact about this statement is this..the Military Commissions Act..states clearly that the President can establish an american citizen as "The Enemy" by designating them a "BELLIGERENT" so..I dunno if that was known to Williamstreet or not..but it is in fact the very language they ARE using to strip a person of the rights they were born with if they were born in this country etc...how odd..so..don't act up...don't get too..UPPITY..or you may be classified a "BELLIGERENT" and...dissapeared..
And Yoo is at...BERKELY? What the Sam Hill is going on THERE?
that is a piece of bizarre irony to say the least...well..maybe its simply that the "So Far Left They're RIGHT.." folks don't mind another voice of intollerence....for example many..MANY "liberals" do not believe in the..COMPLETE CONSTITUTION...for example the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS...and possibly even certain aspects of FREE EXPRESSION.
What may be needed is a NEW HEADING...for those of us who are ..actually just simply "PRO CONTSTITUTION" or "CONSTITUTIONALISTS" or "CONSTITUTIONAL PROGRESSIVES"
As the case may be, the bottom line in all of this SHOULD BE:
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE CONSTITUTION!
In fact I keep waiting to hear a CANDIDATE say these words...now I admit..OBAMA basically said this in Oregon a few weeks back..Hillary has never indicated any real belief in the founding documents...
and MCBUSH? you can FORGET IT! That idiot is possibly even WORSE than what we have now...maybe even the real deal end of our democracy...can you see McBush coming on TeeVee and saying..."gee..it pains me to do this..but...well...golly..I am gonna have to go ahead and SUSPEND the CONSTITUTION...these crazy kids just can't get with the pogrom..oops I meant to say PROGRAM..sorry...forgot to take my meds today..oops..ramble..rant..Splut!.."
Then the sounds of distant air-rade sirens...and...it's over folks...hordes of screaming city vermin being tormented by Charly Mansons long envisioned Dune Buggy Army all blaring Helter Skelter and circling your suburb like '..ants, driven mad by the smell of gazoline..'..
Yeah..well..hopefully there will be a good market for Giant Insect Parts...because if George Peppard is any indicator...there WILL BE GIANT INSECTS AFTER THE McAPOCOLYPSE...food of the gods people...food-of-the-gods...
YEEE-HAAWWWWWWW!
USA!USA!USA!USA!
smilodon1 - the USA has been a terrorist organization for over 100 years. this is just the first time it's been so open, so blatant - the first time they are actually laughing at you/us openly.
canuckchuck - unfortunately, no - the USA is not the only terrorist organization on the planet, just the biggest and best equipped at the moment, except for Israel, and they're doing everything they can think of to keep it that way. Unfortunately, it's a battle they're losing - and they're losing everywhere right now - so the tactics get ever more vicious and insane.
It's rather surprising that people still believe everything was fine till the Bushocrats arrived. No one apparently remembers McCarthy, Kent State, Cheney's involvement with Nixon, Nicaragua, Chile, Guatemala, Iran, Diego Garcia, the Philippines, etc etc ad nauseam.
As I've said before, what we see as "government", even here in Canada, is just a puppet show. If you ever doubted that, Mulroney, Harper, Ontario's Bob Rae, Harris, were examples of puppets who handed our Common Good over to the American (!) MIC interests piecemeal, puppets jockeying for position and favour with the armed thugs that operate behind the scenes, but who are the real powers these days, maybe always were, just not as obviously. Now it's Germany that's swallowed the Friedman-Thatcherite line of swill; now Sarkozy is going to destroy France's noble legacy of human and economic dignity, forged in the fires of the Revolution; now the European government is revealing itself for the puppet circus it really is.
My point - the world is run/controlled by vicious gangs of armed thugs who use government to serve their own interests by jerryrigging the laws and policies to suit them. Our politicians provide us with no safety buffer, no protection for the people, as they are too busy lining up for favours and securing their own safety.
Kinda makes me sentimental for the Mafia, which is beginning to look like Santa Claus by comparison. At least, they were clean - they never pushed any hypocritical propaganda or religion to guilt the public into compliance; they freely admitted they were about power, money and territory.
Ameriqaeda is busy torturing 'confessions' out of people to try to cover up it's crimes. It's like the Spanish Inquisition. Confess! Confess! Confess!
If anyone is ever held accountable, the docket at The Hague is going to be full for the next 20 years.
yes, yes medusa and we know it by the names of NAFTA, CAFTA, The World Bank, International Monetary Fund. The primary purpose of all of these is to destroy home rule, castrate representative government, and establish the principle that the only natural right that exists is the right to make profit.
If it is permissible for the President to claim absolute powers during wartime and the nation is perpetually and continuously at war due to his doctine of prevention and preemption, then there will never come a time when the executive branch is checked in its activities. This condition is no differnet in its essence than any despotic regime that ever existed, regardless of the ideolology it desperately wanted to manifest as socioeconomic reality--it relied on its police and spies to keep its populace in a state of fear and regimentation.
Let's Keep It Simple: Who has the authority to Charge these people, Addinton and Woo to begin with, and follow it up the Chain of Command??
Why hasn't it been done??
Has ANYone heard, any candidate talk about actually Restoring Our Constitution, eliminating Signing-Statements?? That ANY future foreign military involvement, has to be Declared Wars?
Rufus April 8th, 2008 4:03 pm
John Yoo is Korean, so not sure if this applies, but in Japan when a man is shamed beyond belief he simply ends his life with a ritual knife. Mr. Yoo, just do it — a small step to redeem yourself.
Actually a japanese man would also kill himself if he was being unfairly blamed for the transgressions of his superiors as a way of retaining his honor. Does that apply to Yoo?
AndieG---unfortunately, the short answer is NO and the most disgusting part is that no one is even asking them in interviews--even asking the question is out of line. Like HOW EMBASRRASSING putting them on the spot like that, eh?
Gosh, I am proud of you people!