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Another KBR Rape Case
Editor's Note: Lisa Smith is a pseudonym used on request. Additional reporting by Te-Ping Chen. Research support provided by the Investigative Fund of The Nation Institute.
Houston, Texas
It was an early January morning in 2008 when 42-year-old Lisa Smith*, a paramedic for a defense contractor in southern Iraq, woke up to find her entire room shaking. The shipping container that served as her living quarters was reverberating from nearby rocket attacks, and she was jolted awake to discover an awful reality. "Right then my whole life was turned upside down," she says.
What follows is the story she told me in a lengthy, painful on-the-record interview, conducted in a lawyer's office in Houston, Texas, while she was back from Iraq on a brief leave.
That dawn, naked, covered in blood and feces, bleeding from her anus, she found a US soldier she did not know lying naked in the bed next to her: his gun lay on the floor beside the bed, she could not rouse him and all she could remember of the night before was screaming and screaming as the soldier anally penetrated her while a colleague who worked for defense contractor KBR held her hand--but instead of helping her, as she had hoped, he jammed his penis in her mouth.
Over the next few weeks Smith would be told to keep quiet about the incident by a KBR supervisor. The camp's military liaison officer also told her not to speak about what had happened, she says. And she would follow these instructions. "Because then, all of a sudden, if you've done exactly what you've been instructed not to do--tell somebody--then you're in danger," Smith says.
As a brand-new arrival at Camp Harper, she had not yet forged many connections and was working in a red zone under regular rocket fire alongside the very men who had participated in the attack. (At one point, as the sole medical provider, she was even forced to treat one of her alleged assailants for a minor injury.) She waited two and a half weeks, until she returned to a much larger facility, to report the incident. "It's very easy for bad things to happen down there and not have it be even slightly suspicious."
Over the next month and a half, she says, she faced a series of hurdles. She would be discouraged from reporting the incident by several KBR employees, she says. She would be confused by the lack of any written medical protocol for sexual assault (as the only medical person on site, she treated herself with doxycycline). She would wander through a tangled maze of interviews with KBR and Army investigators about the incident without any clear explanation of her rights. She would be asked to sign several documents agreeing not to publicly discuss the incident, she says. She describes having her computer--which she saw as her lifeline, her main access to the outside world--confiscated by Army investigators as "evidence" within hours of receiving her first e-mail from a stateside lawyer she had reached out to for help.
And eventually she would find herself temporarily assigned to sleeping quarters between two Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) officials, who, she says, assured her that it was for her own safety, since her alleged assailants were at the same camp for questioning; they roamed freely. When she wanted to move about the camp to get meals etc., she was escorted.
Smith felt very alone. But she was not.
In fact, a growing number of women employees working for US defense contractors in the Middle East are coming forward with complaints of violence directed at them. As the Iraq War drags on, and as stories of US security contractors who seem to operate with impunity continue to emerge (like Blackwater and its deadly attack against Iraqi civilians on September 16, 2007), a rash of new sexual assault and sexual harassment complaints are being lodged against overseas contractors--by their own employees. Todd Kelly, a lawyer in Houston, says his firm alone has fifteen clients with sexual assault, sexual harassment and retaliation complaints (for reporting assault and/or harassment) against Halliburton and its former subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root LLC (KBR), as well as Cayman Island-based Service Employees International Inc., a KBR shell company. (While Smith is technically an SEII employee, she is supervised by KBR staff as a KBR employee.)
Jamie Leigh Jones, whose story made the news in December--when she alleged that her 2005 gang rape by Halliburton/KBR co-workers in Iraq was being covered up by the company and the US government--also initially believed hers was an isolated incident. But today, Jones reports that she has formed a nonprofit to support the many other women with similar stories. Currently, she has forty US contractor employees in her database who have contacted her alleging a variety of sexual assault or sexual harassment incidents--and claim that Halliburton, KBR and SEII have either failed to help them or outright obstructed them.
Most of these complaints never see the light of day, thanks to the fine print in employee contracts that compels employees into binding arbitration instead of allowing their complaints to be tried in a public courtroom. Criminal prosecutions are practically nonexistent, as the US Justice Department has turned a blind eye to these cases.
Jones's case was the subject of a House Judiciary hearing in December. Right now, Jones's lawyers are awaiting a decision on whether she will get her day in court or be forced to submit to binding arbitration, which KBR is insisting on. Likewise, the company is pressuring Lisa Smith into pursuing her claims against the company through its Dispute Resolution Program based on the contract she signed before she went to Iraq. Critics argue that the company's arbitration system allows it to minimize bad publicity and lets assailants off the hook.
Smith, who retained a lawyer only two weeks ago, is weighing her options.
KBR attorney Celia BallÃÂ, responding to a letter from Smith's lawyer, wrote in a letter dated March 17, "The Company takes Ms. Smith's allegations very seriously and has and will continue to cooperate with the proper law enforcement authorities in the investigation of her allegations to the extent possible." Ballànoted that the matter has been turned over to the CID and said that Smith has been "afforded with counseling and referral services through the Company's Employee Assistance Program." Ballàwrote in the letter that there are "inaccuracies" in the description Smith has put forward regarding her treatment after the alleged sexual assault. "Therefore, the Company requests that you fully investigate all the facts alleged by Ms. [Smith] as the Company intends to pursue all available remedies should false statements be publicized."
Such "investigation" may prove difficult for her attorney. In the next sentence, the company says it is "not in a position to release any personnel or investigative records regarding Ms. [Smith's] allegations at this time." In response to a request for comment on this story, a company spokesperson wrote in an e-mail that Smith's "allegations are currently under investigation by the appropriate law enforcement authorities. Therefore, KBR cannot comment on the specifics of the allegations or investigation." The spokesperson added, "Any allegation of sexual harassment or assault is taken seriously and investigated thoroughly." It remains unclear, however, what law enforcement investigation is examining the KBR employee's role in the alleged assault, since Army CID is charged with investigating only cases that involve US military personnel.
For her part, Smith can't quite call herself a victim yet. In the course of several conversations over several days, she never once says the word "victim" out loud. Let alone "rape." Let alone "gang rape."
She simply describes what happened, moving through the course of events as if this had happened to someone else, as if the recitation of details were an act of contrition she was compelled to perform.
Like many rape survivors, she feels guilty. In this case, Smith confesses that she broke company policy the evening of the incident by having a drink (alcohol is expressly forbidden). She had landed at Camp Harper only a week earlier, when she returned from a stateside R&R with her family. Since arriving in Iraq six months earlier, she had been at a larger facility, Camp Cedar. But her new posting at Camp Harper put her in a smaller outpost of sixty people: part US military, part KBR employees, part SEII workers. When some KBR colleagues invited her to join them for a drink after work, she did.
Smith says she had only one drink--and she asked someone to hold it after a few sips while she went outside for a smoke. Smith's attorney, Daniel Ross, speculates that someone slipped the date-rape drug Rohypnol in her drink.
Smith's memory of the evening is fuzzy, and the only thing she remembers clearly about the events surrounding her assault is the aforementioned moment of oral and anal penetration. She also remembers screaming.
The morning after the incident, Smith says, she was called into the office of her supervisor, who was Camp Harper's KBR manager; he appeared to know--at least in part--what had happened. She would later learn from an Army investigator that her supervisor had been in the room where the drinking and alleged rape had taken place at least twice that evening. Smith, who appears to have blacked out, has no direct knowledge of his participation--or indeed of who else among the crowd initially gathered in the room may have been involved. "He was one of the people involved in saying, 'Don't say anything,'" Smith says of her conversation with the KBR camp manager the morning following the incident. "Then he said, 'This will never happen again.'"
Smith offered to pack up and go home. But he sent her back to work. First, though, he responded to Smith's plea to get the soldier she still had not been able to rouse out of her bed by contacting the military's Special Forces liaison at Camp Harper. The liaison, whom Smith knew only by his nickname, DJ, was direct. "He told me not to speak of this to anyone and that he would take care of it," Smith says.
Smith sat tight for a few days but then contacted a friend at Camp Cedar, where her permanent assignment was, and asked if the Employee Assistance person for KBR was back from her R&R yet. She was not. Smith was worried about even discussing the incident, since she knew that none of her conversations were confidential. "Camp Harper has only three phones," she says. "One is in the camp manager's office. One is in the Operations Office. And one is in a hallway." She wavered. A few days later, when she knew that the Employee Assistance person for KBR would be back, Smith called her on the phone. The Employee Assistance woman was a friend of hers and, without getting too specific about the details of the incident, Smith sought her advice. "We had worked other situations together in the past, and I talked to her and she was like, 'I don't know if I'd report that. You know what happens when you report things.' And I did. I'd seen it."
Despite Smith's silence, rumors were circulating at the camp. Two and a half weeks after the incident, she was questioned by someone from the KBR Employee Relations office, who appeared to be investigating a series of improprieties at the camp, Smith says. Fearful, she denied knowledge of any wrongdoing at the camp.
When Smith returned to her original posting at Camp Cedar, a larger facility with a human resources person and more friends she could approach for advice, she recontacted the man from Employee Relations who had been investigating "improprieties" and told him her story.
This set the wheels in motion for a series of interviews, most of which concluded with Smith being asked to sign a nondisclosure statement by representatives of the company, she says.
Eventually, shortly before she was slated to return to the United States for R&R, one of the investigators for KBR suggested that Smith get tested for STDs, hepatitis, HIV, etc. and took her to the nearby military Combat Support Hospital. "The doctor took me into her office, and we talked a long time before she did an exam," Smith says. "We talked about the assault and the details and she was actually very, very kind and encouraged me to report it to the military. She tried convincing me that it wasn't my fault [for having a drink]. She was just a really kind lady--and that was the first time I had given any of the whole details of all that had happened."
In fact, military protocol compelled the doctor to report the incident; Smith was immediately contacted by the Army Criminal Investigation Division and questioned.
A few days later, shortly after contacting an attorney in the United States to advise her on her rights, the attorney sent her a draft letter he was sending to KBR on her behalf, notifying the company that he was representing her and briefly summarizing her accusations. The military came to her office within hours, she alleges, and confiscated her computer as "evidence," effectively limiting her access to the outside world. The CID did not respond to requests for comment.
Many victims of sexual assault find themselves without meaningful recourse when they work for US defense contractors that are powerful companies on foreign soil. "It's one big battle over where to fight the battle," said Smith's attorney Ross, who is considering if and how and against whom to file charges on behalf of his client.
Take Jamie Leigh Jones's case, for example.
Since Jones alleged she was gang raped in 2005, while KBR was still a Halliburton subsidiary, her case is covered by an extralegal Halliburton dispute-resolution program implemented under then-CEO Dick Cheney in 1997. The program has all the hallmarks of the Cheney White House's penchant for secrecy. While Halliburton declared the program's aim was to reduce costly and lengthy litigation (and limit possible damage awards in the process), in practice it meant that employees like Jones signed away their constitutional right to a jury trial--and agreed to have any disputes heard in a private arbitration hearing without hope of appeal. (While two lower courts declared the tactic illegal, in 2001, the Texas Supreme Court overturned those rulings.)
Accordingly, Jones faces two major roadblocks in the fight for justice. The first is the battle to have the perpetrators prosecuted in criminal court--which, because of Order 17, may be nearly impossible. According to the order, imposed by Paul Bremer, US defense contractors in Iraq cannot be prosecuted in the Iraqi criminal justice system. While they can technically be tried in US federal court, the Justice Department has shown no interest in prosecuting her case. In fact, for more than two years now, the DOJ has brought no criminal charges in the matter. Representative Ted Poe, a Texas Republican who has taken up Jones's cause, reports that federal agencies refuse to discuss the status of the investigation; meanwhile, in December, the DOJ refused to send a representative to the related Congressional hearing on the matter.
Even more appalling, the Justice Department, which can and should prosecute most of these cases, has declined to do so. "There is no rational explanation for this," says Scott Horton, a lecturer at Columbia Law School who specializes in the law of armed conflict. Prosecutorial jurisdiction for crimes like the alleged rape of Jones is easily established under the Military Extraterritorial Jurisdiction Act and the Patriot Act's special maritime and territorial jurisdiction provisions. But somebody has to want to prosecute the cases.
Horton wonders what the 200 Justice Department employees and contractors stationed in Iraq do all day, noting that there has not been a single completed criminal conviction against a US contractor implicated in a violent crime anywhere in Iraq since the invasion.
"We have a complete process in place for solving military criminal violations when soldiers commit crimes, but for the 180,000 employees of private contractors over there, there is nothing," says Horton. "It's like Texas west of the Pecos in 1890 over there!" It's just common sense that you're going to have some violent crimes when you throw this many people together, he says. "Think about it. You have 180,000 people over there, you're going to have a few crimes. I don't know how anybody could fairly view this as a partisan issue. Crimes happen when you bring people together anywhere, and in a war setting, without adult supervision, crimes are going to increase. That is just a fact. And if you eliminate law enforcement, the crimes are going to get worse because people will quickly learn they can get away with it."
Things don't look a whole lot rosier when it comes to seeking relief in the civil courts.
For example, KBR is fighting tooth and nail to make sure Jones's case stays in private arbitration, as per her contract. And given that in February, a federal district court ruled that Tracy Barker--another KBR employee who says she was sexually assaulted--couldn't present her case in open court, prospects for the civil suit Jones brought last May look dim.
And that's particularly troubling, according to Jones's attorney Todd Kelly, because the clandestine nature of arbitration allows corporate malfeasance to go unchecked. Trials serve a purpose above and beyond pronouncing verdicts. "It's like the Enron trial here in Houston," he says. "Where every day in the Houston Chronicle there was a story exposing what egregious things go unchecked in the corporate culture. The United States got to peek into the corporate underwear drawer and saw it was not as pretty as it looked from the outside." Kelly argues that Halliburton and KBR ought to be similarly exposed to public scrutiny via jury trials. These civil remedies arranged in a secretive manner have repercussions beyond the dollar figures. "It allows for future rapes to occur," he says, arguing that these defense contractors have been able to quietly settle and compel victims to remain silent: the public remains oblivious to the crimes, no one is punished and a hostile and violent workplace continues unchecked.
In the future, the sole recourse for victims like Jones may be through Congress. Last October the House overwhelmingly passed legislation that requires the FBI to investigate allegations of wrongdoing and permits all US contractors to be tried under American jurisdiction. The Senate has yet to vote on the legislation.
For her part, Jones intends to persevere. "Part of the reason I'm going forward with this case is to change the system," she says. "Who knows how many of us rape victims are out there?"
Smith, who is now back in the United States on two weeks R&R, is uncertain what the future holds for her. "I don't think I've been able to make any decisions or plans or goals yet," she says. First of all, there is the fact that she arrived home from Iraq to learn that her husband had been rushed to the hospital earlier that day after a partial stroke. She needs her job with SEII because she is the one who gets health insurance--vital not only for the two teenage daughters still living at home but for her husband, with his health problems. She worries, "Human Resources made me sign statements saying that I'm supposed to be back in Dubai on April 7 at 10 p.m., and if I'm not there I will not be reimbursed my $1,600 airfare or for my two weeks' vacation."
And indeed, the March 17 letter her attorney received from KBR attorney Celia Ballàsays that Smith can be placed on medical leave "pending resolution of the investigations related to this matter" but warns, "However, per Company policy, [her] leave will be unpaid." She is welcome to apply for workers' comp, the lawyer states.
Can she return to her old job as a paramedic in Lena, Illinois?
"Yes, my license is in good standing, and I've never had a problem," she says. "But it means a difference of about $6,000 a month in salary and no health insurance. My biggest reason for working for KBR in the first place was so I could get insurance for my husband and girls..." Smith's sentence trails off. She begins a new one. Stops midway. She tries again to organize her thoughts. "I've been trying to figure out how I'm going to go back to work. How am I going to make myself do this?" she says, manifesting the confused indecisiveness and sense of a "foreshortened future" that are hallmarks of post-traumatic stress disorder.
Has she seen a rape crisis counselor?
Not yet, Smith says. "Someone from KBR Employee Assistance gave me a flier to call someone in Houston," she says, but it turned out to be for general financial or emotional problems during deployment. They referred her to a website. "I'm 9,000 miles away in Iraq and the website says, 'Please put in your zip code and we'll refer you to a rape crisis counselor in your zip code area.'"
Smith, who says she cannot sleep, appears exhausted. She tells her story without affect, little inflection and tamped emotion. She only tears up twice, most visibly when speaking about one of her sons, a 22-year-old US soldier who served in the Middle East recently. While she was in the process of debating whether--and how--to go about reporting her assault, she contacted him to see what his feelings were on the matter. "I didn't want him upset with his mom," she says, explaining that she was very loyal to the mission in Iraq and that he was similarly loyal to his service. "I was assaulted by somebody who was wearing the same uniform as him, and I just didn't want him to think bad of me. My children are pretty much my world." Smith's eyes fill with tears, and she pauses to collect herself. "I didn't want him to be upset because I was calling out somebody who was wearing his same uniform. They're supposed to be proud of what they do. And I'm proud of my sons. And in my mind, I live that war every day. I can make all sorts of excuses under the sun for bad behavior."
Her son advised her to make the formal complaint.
"He was like, 'Of course you're going to talk to CID, Mom. Of course you are.'" Smith smiles. "He doesn't think people should be allowed to wear his uniform and act like that. He's been in the war too and says it's no excuse. They're better trained than that. That's what my son thought. And he's not angry at his mom."
©2008 The Nation
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Show AllI'm sorry but this poor woman will get absolutely NO WHERE with this case..
In the good 'ol USA, the prevalent thinking( if you can call it that) is she must have been walking around "asking" for it... everyone knows that poor Young man can't control his urges when confronted with a woman, barely dressed...
The animals that rape women , and /or men are just that, animals with no higher thinking , or it'll generously add, mentally incompetent
there is NO EXCUSE for rape... even if a woman walks around birthday suit naked ..
All one needs for an example of this , is the over the top outrage at Janet Jackson's famous "nipple slip".. the whole country went nuts about this..some not having even witnessing the event.
While the details of the stories in this article are enough to make us sick and very, very angry, there is a legal point in the 32nd paragraph that has relevance to everybody working at any corporation.
There we're told that Jamie Leigh Jones was required to sign her agreement to a Halliburton corporate dispute-resolution program ("arbitration" without appeal) in order to have a job, so she couldn't sue her incoporated employer even in the case of an alleged gang rape. And we're told that the Texas Supreme Court has in 2001 declared this constitutional.
This is an extreme example of corporate "rights" being given preference over citizen rights. Corporations may require you to relinquish in advance any claims you now or ever may have--in order to work at all. This is why you, the citizen, need liberals in Congress to legislate around these over-reaches of corporate power and a liberal president to appoint a citizen-oriented Supreme Court that will correct for you whatever Congress has not.
With Bush, you lost bigtime on the Supreme Court part with Roberts and Alito. Your only hope of not going further down is to elect Obama over McCain. There are going to be several Supreme Court appointments in the next eight years. You choosing the philosophy of judges by choosing the philosophy of the president is a BIG DEAL. Think about the women in the article before you either vote or spout off about how you hate Democrats.
That is disgusting.
She has one drink and she let someone hold it - it would not have mattered whether it was an alcoholic beverage or a soft drink.
I don't hear about this kind of stuff in the Canadian Military. Either it remains unreported or we have developed safe guards. But then again, these were "contractors" and there are no government policy of safeguards which protect those who either work for (or come in contact with) contractors.
I remember Romeo Dallaire coming down very strong against even sex between men under his command (not Canadian) and locals and taking steps to stop that practice once it came to his attention when he was leading apeacekeeping mission in Rwanda. He said in Shake Hands with the Devil that such "consent" was an illusion because of the power of life and death his forces held in many cases over the inhabitants of Rwanda.
There are scandals of sex for food in aid stations too.
It is not just the sick minded - there will be sick minded in all professions. What it important here is the recourse for the victims and whether the government has the power to impose policies which make such victimization less likely.
Blaming and bullying the victim is a way to keep this stuff both quiet - and happening.
There should be an inquiry into this and recommendations should be made to stop this from happening.
I can see by the "abundance" of comments to the above article some read "rape" and just mouse on by..pathetic
What I don't quite understand is WHAT is in it for the company to cover these sexual assaults up? Are they concerned about getting sued or something? I bet if they were compassionate to these women and handled their cases appropriately, the likelihood of getting sued would be minimal. IF the company sided with the victims, it would be GREAT PR for them as well... Instead, they show their evilness by siding with the rapists. As well, how can the women in the company live with themselves after assisting in intimidating the victims and covering up the crimes? Traitors to their gender. I guess there's no limit to what people will do for money when the company OWNS them.
The companies won't claim accountability or allow oversight because by doing so outside sources would have leverage over them - something anathema to this entire administration and its demand for total secrecy and deception. If you don't admit the problem exists - then it doesn't exists.
If you blame the victim, saying it is her fault because she signed some type of pre-employment contract to arbitrate outside of court - then that is not the company's fault - it is the fault of the stupid women who sign these contracts and don't read what they sign (sarcasm intended).
America has become an intellectual and moral wasteland. Common people are no longer concerned with the 'common good.' When that happens - there is no salvation because those on top are void of mercy or caring. Then, of course, we all know what happens . . . . . .
I can not believe that pre-employment contact can trump someone's legal rights not to get raped! There is something dreadfully wrong here. If the KBR executives don't come down hard on their employees, then they should get THEIR ass raped with a broom handle!
I have no time for this type of low life or conduct.
I can hear the AG now. Well, since it happened on Iraqi soil, it is out of our jurisdiction, and it is up to them to prosecute.
She'll probably get sentenced to lashes.
Anthropologists might still use the word "civilization" but that word as it is used by governmental agencies is meaningless.
Rapists should be castrated, every, single, time.
The article tells us:
"Accordingly, Jones faces two major roadblocks in the fight for justice. The first is the battle to have the perpetrators prosecuted in criminal court, – which, because of Order 17, may be nearly impossible..."
I too have read Joseph Heller's 'Catch 22' -- from where the 'Top Br-ass' dimwits of the armed services obviously source their most innovative (and wholly inhumane) concepts.
Meantimes, some fools in the government crow about the 'courage' of their armed wing (their hired assassins) but where are all these *courageous* men who are willing to stand up and be counted when one 'uniform' severely (and very cowardly) sexually abuses another 'uniform'?
The only courage so far displayed has been that of these very brave women who have dared challenge the rotting 'system'.
How many blind eyes does one have to develop, to attain poltroon 'Top Dog' positions in the armed services?
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America needs to regain every shred of good it has lost (and sold) since the mentally sick have run the country and these large corporations.
Failure to act properly (and morally) will ensure a toppling into the abyss. The gods do not smile on such renegades as these, and any supposed 'divine patience' with the USA must surely be running at a very low ebb by now.
I think this phenomenon is called 'suicide' amongst ordinary people, but in their hellish fog, the evil and abhorrent coven governing the USA would doubtless somehow hail it a 'success'. That is a sure mark of their complete insanity.
Only the most satanic devils could ever spout 'Mission Accomplished' as they tore down that which was (admittedly) imperfect, only then to replace it with the utterly ruinous.
The gods have a sure cure for lost, egomaniacal leaders and their wayward nations.
Look away now children, -it's not a pretty sight...
johnycanuck, Not only are these sick perpetrators totally forgetting that their co-workers are human beings; but, these contractor corporations who create these pre-emplyment contracts, themselves act as inhumanely as the bad apples. And, where are our elected and appointed government leaders that permit such immoral legal constructs? Where is the media? Where is the relgious right? The stench from this sewer, like so much that goes down in Iraq, is beyond nauseous.
i would've bit that shit right off! clamp-pull-RIP!!!
So many accounts similar to this, crimes being committed, injustice being ignored, employees being raped and abused and it all should make us sick enough to do something. The government in this country is not our government, it does not represent us or our sense of fairness, justice or personal rights. How have we lost the right to seek justice in issues like this? I know that many of our people sign up with the military and the contractors and go to Iraq for the money. Many of the young people have little to choose from and others, like the woman written about here, need gainful employment. Is working in a war the only way for them? What has happened to this country makes me sick.
If a minority finds employment with a known white supremacist organization (ie KKK, KBR, etc...) and is subsequently harassed and beaten you would say to him "what the hell were you thinking".
This is no different. Mercenaries operate at the same level as criminals, but they are better paid and are protected by the company that employs them. This is not new. The French foreign legion is (yes, they are still in operation) one of the oldest and ruthless group of mercenaries known and documented. Blackwater, KBR and the rest are no different. They are doing exactly what the American military pays them to do - act without conscience, regret or consequences.
Anyone working for any of the private contractors in Iraq, for a very high rate of pay, as a mercenary or support personnel should understand that they are giving up their rights as a citizen (of any country) and as a person when they sign that contract (why would a company create a contract to protect itself from their employees, while operating in a foreign country, if they did not have to).
So, Ms. Smith, what the hell were you thinking...
KBR...Kill, Bugger & Rape
"Horton wonders what the 200 Justice Department employees and contractors stationed in Iraq do all day"...slip roofies to female coworkers and anally rape them...what else?
the binding arbitration contract provision was probably never intended to cover criminal acts, but since Bremer's making it illegal for anyone to criminally charge a US contractor, THERE IS NO ACT THAT KBR CAN DO THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED A CRIME...hell, they could murder their own employees if they felt like it, and only go to binding arbitration to settle the bill.
"I don't hear about this kind of stuff in the Canadian Military"
Vaudree
Oh how soon they forget...Remember Somolia? Remeber that Canada used to have an Airborne Regiment? Remeber how the entire regiment was disbanded in disgrace?
"That dawn, naked, covered in blood and feces, bleeding from her anus, she found a US soldier she did not know lying naked in the bed next to her..."
Hell, Who hasn't?
Ask any male Iraqi teenager...
One thing that really sticks in my craw is this again shows how the US Private Medical Health scams are used to manipulate the working class.
"she arrived home from Iraq to learn that her husband had been rushed to the hospital earlier that day after a partial stroke. She needs her job with SEII because she is the one who gets health insurance–vital not only for the two teenage daughters still living at home but for her husband"
instead of debt slavery, the US has health slavery
I hope Ms. Smith sues KBR for millions, get the best lawyers you can find, hold them accountable, make them pay, as for many of the comments on here, she was just trying to do her job, you guys are sick to even think she in any way deserved what she got by being over there in the first place, you are sick people!
These bastards who did this to this woman are lower than rat do do!
"TEX-ASS" is a lawless third world country, run by thugs, bruts and cretins.
Its also home to George W. Bush.
These actions approved and paid for by our Republican run, criminal enterprise called: THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
If the institutions whom we depend upon (duh, Our legal system) cannot and/or will not protect this woman -- then it is time to take the law into her own hands.
Somehow.
Let them send her back there.
Sure, and the next time she has a chance to get her hands on a weapon (there are likely plenty around) - enact her own justice -- and without restraint.
Then let's see what happens and who steps in.
My two cents.
I wonder how many similar cases have gone un
reported in the regular branches of the U. S.
Military. I recall something sililar happening at the Air Force Academy a few years ago, which was promptly swept under the
rug.
I know that it makes us sick to read this kind of stuff but what you are reading is not new. These types of problems existed in the military in my days. You may not agree with wdmax3, but what he says is true. I don't know if it is how he really feels or if it's sarcasm. I think that the important points here are that when US forces are in a war zone, they are not subject to local law. Bremer may be responsible for much of the problem in Iraq, but he wasn't wrong on this. What would the American people say if we made our troops (and contractors) subject to Islamic law? I don't think so.
American forces become subject to a "status of forces agreement" when the host nation is ready to assume the status of "host." Under such agreements, the host nation can assume jurisdiction in criminal cases when it is to their advantage to do so but generally they leave such matters to the US military. With civilians, if the host nation chooses not to prosecute, the US federal government holds the jurisdiction and can bring charges against US civilian contractors in foreign countries. The part that nobody had commented directly on is the fact that the AG of the US has not done so. Time for change - OBAMA is change.
The other point is that Texas court decision about binding arbitration. This one somebody covered but let me add that the Texas Supreme Court was wrong - totally wrong. The arbitration covers lawsuits brought against the company where it is cheaper for the employee or union to go to arbitration to settle a grievances anyway. It is to the employee's advantage in most cases and it does save everybody money. Arbitration is a good thing, but needs to always be offered with a way out if one is sure that they want to skip it. In criminal cases, arbitration is totally unacceptable. No arbitrator can hand down a jail sentence or death sentence for those of you who believe in such. When you elect your next president who will appoint judges, this should be a consideration.
This is about the rich and powerful protecting themselves, and screw what happens to the little guy (or little woman in this case). It is the very worst that human nature can foist upon itself, and a system that protects money over human beings.
We will be judged over how we treat the most vulnerable amoung us, and based on what is happening all over this planet right now, that judgement will be harsh.
Beam me up Scotty, no sign of enlightenment here.
I feel sorry for anyone who would sign up to "serve" in this whole immoral fiasco. Still, $6000 a month pay is a lot of money, and somewhere in the article it's stated that this woman believed in "the mission." It's a "mission" that's doing a lot of harm to a lot of people; so while in NO way would I support what was done to this woman (rape), she certainly put herself into a very hostile position. Part of it for the reasons WDMAX3 articulatedly, and partly because anyone who CHOOSES to be part of a war of choice, is no longer entirely an innocent.
I've spoken in this forum about the hyped up sense of macho/Mars that's the psychological fodder for war and warriors. EVERY war involves rape. This victim made the quite naive presumption that our side is "the good side" and "good boys" would never do THAT to a woman.
I hope she wins her case, too; but when the military is itself a largely anti-life misogynistic organization (if hiding behind religion & patriotism), her chances are rather limited in the search for true justice. Perhaps she could learn more about natural nutrition and keep her children healthy, without having to take a job in a war zone to make $6000 a month.
HAHAHAHA
this is what should happen to EVERYBODY who enables Bush Co.
(At one point, as the sole medical provider, she was even forced to treat one of her alleged assailants for a minor injury.)
Anyone care to speculate on the aftermath of Ms. Smith having applied a scalpel to the "alleged assailant"'s carotid artery as part of the treatment for the minor injury?
hello, darling:
I hope you never ever have a daughter.
Enabling BushCo is wrong, but so is the desperation that causes americans to sell their soul to the WAR MACHINE just to raise their kids.
Someday, maybe, you'll look into a mirror and see your shadow.
I hope someone has more empathy for you when that day comes.
The same type of people who did this will be coming back eventually and helping create the American police state. We need to act now to make sure the attackers go to jail. And since when does a work contract negate basic rights to a fair trial?
http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/PoliceState.html
Daniel David April 3rd, 2008 3:10 pm
"With Bush, you lost bigtime on the Supreme Court part with Roberts and Alito. Your only hope of not going further down is to elect Obama over McCain. There are going to be several Supreme Court appointments in the next eight years. You choosing the philosophy of judges by choosing the philosophy of the president is a BIG DEAL. Think about the women in the article before you either vote or spout off about how you hate Democrats."
A lady was raped. Can we please not use her suffering as yet another excuse to shill for the Democrats?
Ah, spreading democracy across the Middle East...."love 'merican style." To quote Cheney, So.
DEMS won't do anything, they still want sloppy seconds from the GOP of what's left here and abroad. Sorry, such sentiment is probably better suited for MSM blog sites and below the likes of CD and readers/poster, so I pardon the sarcasm and accept my apology.
Nobody likes rape - and this thread is competing with the "AS GUANTANAMO TRIALS NEAR, PENTAGON CENSORS COVERAGE" thread.
Tell your daughters that if they go to the bathroom at the party or the bar to take their drinks with them. If they don't, then they will be avoiding articles like this - it brings back too many bad memories.
Canada had a big laugh out of nipple-gate.
RE: - What I don't quite understand is WHAT is in it for the company to cover these sexual assaults up? Are they concerned about getting sued or something?
The victims are more of a threat to the reputation of the company than the perpetrators. The perps wish to keep the whole thing quiet because it allows them further victims. Father Sylvestre the Molester was able to abuse girls for decades because the Church did not want the publicity - I doubt the Military contractors do either.
What has changed between now and then is that now we know that the victims of rape don't just get over it (video on your right).
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/goodfather/
If the problem of rape seems to be wide spread, then it might affect the securing of future contracts - so there might me financial consequences if the victims get too uppity and noisy.
RE: - Oh how soon they forget…Remember Somolia? Remeber that Canada used to have an Airborne Regiment? Remeber how the entire regiment was disbanded in disgrace?
I meant since then. Seems that Canada was bent on not repeating that experience.
My memory about Somalia was more about racist comments and beating a kid to death for the fun of it - all the while posing for film and photographs. Though there was a Canadian soldier a little while back who was caught with child porn on his computer. In Canada, it is a crime for a Canadian citizen to possess child porn (whether they are in Canada or not).
Also, it doesn't hurt to find out who the Canadians are on line who know about Somalia. :evil
RE: - instead of debt slavery, the US has health slavery
And politicians of both stripes are trying to dismantle our system and implement yours. What you want to dismantle you first have to starve and sabotage.
So she can't quit a job where she was raped and the perpetrators got off scot free (increasing the likelihood that lightning will strike twice) because her family needs health care!
RE: - I feel sorry for anyone who would sign up to "serve" in this whole immoral fiasco. Still, $6000 a month pay is a lot of money
It is a lot of money when without it you worry about food and shelter - how $6,000 sounds pretty close to what you would be making working at Sev or McD, doesn't it.
I wonder how her husband feels when he knows that, because of his stroke, she has to go back to the brothel. He must be feeling really powerless at the moment - not just because he could not prevent what happened to his wife but because he can't prevent what may happen to her in the future or even tell her not to go back. Society tells her husband that if he was a real man, he would be able to protect his wife from stuff like this.
RE: - And since when does a work contract negate basic rights to a fair trial?
Since when has it not! There is a reason why labour rights and protections were not incorporated into FTA/NAFTA. In Mexico, one can be jailed for trying to start a union and yet "inefficient" workers in Canada and the US are supposed to try to make themselves more "efficient" by giving up what labour rights and wages they still have.
Oh and gay men cannot be in the military because they may look at straight men in the shower.
History has shown that private armies acting in lieu of their government equivalents usually tend to have poorer discipline records. One need merely examine the history of the British East India Company and the Force Publique of the Congo Free State for immediate examples. Since KBR is being "contracted" to take the place of the armed forces logistics and supply cadres, you have the unrestrained testosterone of soldiers without the cudgel of military discipline. Thus it is not surprising these rape cases have occurred (and probably more have happened and were successfully swept under the carpet).
In 1979 I went to work in Management for an Oil company Contractor in the Gulf of Mexico. As well I worked in Mexico itself for 2 years. Ethics, the law as we know it here does not exsist with Haliburton, KBR. There are very inhumane to work for. They will fire you for any little thing, especially if you look like you could cause them problems, such as if you are a rape victim. When I worked in Mexico along side Brown and Root, and others they could be vicious if you were intending on reporting something unethical or criminal. I m glad I left that industry in 1981. It has not changed. It has now contracted for "Wars" as well as oil. Good luck all.
What appears to be a lack of commen sense is this woman, over forty, leaves her drink and returns to it after going outside for a smoke. Fuck, I wouldn't do that anywhere, even the local bar in the US.
Just a thought...If this story is true about an American worker in Iraq imagine what may be happening to the Iraqui women who have even less voice and no legal recourse against the mercenaries.
No, VAGreen, as a matter of fact, these rape cases ARE a very important reason why I "shill" (as you put it) for Democrats, and why you should (if you had any sense.)
No one can prohibit mean men from raping women. But the degree of justice served after the fact is directly related to who makes our laws and who interprets them. You get Republicans in government who like men better, who like white people better, who like corporations better, and then you get raped women shut out of recourse. You get liberals in government, those women get better protection, better compassionate response, better justice, better reparations, better everything. Democrats are the only liberals ever elected to make differences, and every opportunity to point this out is appropriate---perhaps especially rape cases.
Daniel David,
Perhaps you are right, but Dems are NOT liberals, and frankly, we don't appreciate your posts anymore. We are aware you support them, so can you focus on the topic for once?
And if they are so great, why they haven't impeached? Why they keep funding this occupations? Why are they sooooo attached to the status quo?
You are a smart man, come up with better posts.
No one can prohibit mean men from raping women. Except Sam Colt who would never work for Kill, Bill & Rape (KBR).
RE: - Oh and gay men cannot be in the military because they may look at straight men in the shower.
Not only do gays and lesbians serve in the Canadian military, but some of them are married to other gays and lesbians.
Speaking on the issue of homophobia, how long do you think it will be until Tom Lukiwski's political career is over?
Video on the right shows the comment in context:
Saskatchewan MP apologizes for anti-gay slur
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2008/04/03/lukiwski-video.html
Remember the CBC News Sunday doc Mississippi Cold Case where the old woman said that they should just forget about the torture and murder of two young black men because it happened so long ago. James Ford Seale was later charged and convicted for those crimes because of the video.
Yeah, there is probably a similarity between gay bashing and violence acts committed against women. And between attitudes and actions or, in case of the superiors who punished the victim while letting off the perps scot free, attitudes and the tendency to sanction the actions of others.
While we are on the topic, seems that Christopher Columbus and his crew were responsible for bringing a certain form of VD to both Europe and North America.
Columbus did not see anything wrong with either himself or his crew partaking in the "spoils of war" even as they often slaughtered and enslaved peaceful peoples.
RE: - History has shown that private armies acting in lieu of their government equivalents usually tend to have poorer discipline records.
Do you think it has more to do with the kind of people these armies tend to attract or do you think it is because the terms of employment turns many good men (and possibly women) into creeps?
RE: - they could be vicious if you were intending on reporting something unethical or criminal
Of course. Because if you report it, it makes it more difficult for them to continue doing that "something."
RE: - What appears to be a lack of commen sense is this woman, over forty, leaves her drink and returns to it after going outside for a smoke.
In fairness to her, one goes to bars, in part, to - er - admire the scenery - so there is a greater expectation that one will be in the company of those on the make. The woman seemed oblivious to the concept that they thought of her any differently than they thought of each other.
Secondly, there was a sense of loyalty that if she was caught with the drink while taking the smoke that they would all be in trouble, not just her. If you take a drink with you outside the bar, it is only you that gets charged for it - not everyone sitting at the table with you.
That said, trust needs to be earned and no one should ever ever assume it automatic. Also to be said, we can always criticize a woman's behaviour after the fact - if it happened in the shower room, we could say that maybe she should refrain from showering until she got back home.
RE: - imagine what may be happening to the Iraqui women who have even less voice and no legal recourse against the mercenaries.
I don't think we need to imagine that, we know. All men feel humiliated because of this. Some men blame their wives (because they are easier to retaliate against) and others become suicide bombers.
Do you think that these men only raped the women serving with them?
RE: - No one can prohibit mean men from raping women.
Sure, but we can prevent them from doing so with impunity. If someone rapes, they should be courtmarshalled and put in with the general population in some prison. Then again, rape is just the most extreme form of looting and it demoralizes the enemy - so it does prove useful.
Hmm. If this article is any indication, what the Smith "case" consists of is her totally uncorroborated claim. Maybe there's more to it, but according to this article, there's no physical evidence, no DNA evidence, no medical evidence and no eye witness to corroborate anything she says. That doesn't mean she's making it up, although she could be. But if there's no more to the case than this article indicates, she's got nothing.
It's interesting that the author didn't bother to interview anyone who could corroborate anything Smith has said. Not even members of the military or KBR who could corroborate her claims that she told them this happened, interviewed her, etc. The only thing this writer did was to get a boilerplate statement by some office at KBR. And it's not like the writer isn't sympathetic to Smith, so you'd think she'd do everything she could to get something to back up this woman's claims. Interesting that she didn't. Weak journalism for a weak case.
These stories are tragic, and it's infuriating that the DOJ is sitting on it's hands. It just doesn't have time for stuff like this when it's so busy trying to disenfranchise likely democratic voters. I guess Mukasey is in Cheney's pocket. Schumer and Feinstein, are you proud of yourselves yet?
Someone should make a movie called CheneyWorld. Oh, I think Soylent Green got there first.
Klar, you made a good point. I've been concerned for some time that we're next. Certainly what happened in New Orleans has been underreported. But a preview.
Forgiveness April 3rd, 2008 4:13 pm
Rapists should be castrated, every, single, time.
forgiveness, have you considered changing your username? With statements like that I might.
kathyodat
A parallel with this incident are the torture cases. Giving unbalanced people trained to kill and see in other the fiction of "enemy" power over others creates an environment where abuses of disgusting sorts proliferate.
I am an idiot.
I just need to get my head around that.
As many times as I read down to these "comments" after heading the above article(s), 9/10 times I regret it.
Yeah, whatever, but what makes me an idiot is I think it is gonna be different or something.
It is not, and almost never is...
Most of you folks I can't help but think of as people that if I ran into on the street, I would want to turn away from and walk the other way and fast!
I have said it before, and I will say it again:
What is up with this need for you all (not all, but the people that know what I am saying know who I am talking about)to be SO RIGHT ?
(and to take it a step further: so much righter than everyone else here?)
I just don't understand.
If I were doing a social study, this comments section would be ripe with insight into why everything is so F*#ked up.
Peace y'all!
bolwriter, has it occurred to you that keeping rape victims quiet is PART of the KBR's agenda here? Or that it usually happens in America as well?
Victims are consistently blamed in rape cases...
"hellodarling April 3rd, 2008 7:50 pm
HAHAHAHA
this is what should happen to EVERYBODY who enables Bush Co."
"Nanoo April 4th, 2008 9:12 am
What appears to be a lack of commen sense is this woman, over forty, leaves her drink and returns to it after going outside for a smoke. Fuck, I wouldn't do that anywhere, even the local bar in the US."
You need to take a good long look at why you decide she deserved it, remark that it's somehow her fault (for being a woman?) or that it just didn't happen.
Rape is about Power....supposed Power over another....aggression, violence. And in the USA or at least what used to be America,
rape was a crime. How is it that you and I and every Tax payer in America, yes from each and every one of us to the Heads of our government condone this and the other crimes in Iraq. Oh, you don't think so, well who hired KBR and who pays them ? Also, the Supreme Court of Texas says the contract is binding........what of the Supreme Court of the USA ?
And, I wonder is a person legally sane enough to enter into such a contract which would allow this to be done to there person with no safe recourse?
Do those who sign on realize what they are in for, possibly? Must be some lawyer out there who can figure an illegality there somewhere.
And what of the supposed greatest nation on earth who's citizens are to the point of having to put themselves into such a situation in order to support and feel that their families are safe?
Further, this is the democracy we are bringing to the rest of the world?
America, in my opinion, we need a change. It might start with THE IMPEACHMENT AND PROSECUTION OF ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BROKEN US CONSTITUTION NOW! Then corporate powers need to be addressed, etc. etc. etc.
Instead I'll probably be reading more stories of victims and murders and the ravages and wastes of the day........for after all the congress has more important things to do than stand their oaths of office, it must keep on with the important business of America. And the rape of USA, one at a time or in groups, while sad and sick has just become another day of business as usual.