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Molehill Politics
The Democrats didn't expect so much pain. The assumption was that out of a patch of good candidates one would emerge to take on an inevitably weak Republican-the field was seen as lacking and George Bush as a drag on the party-and defeat him in what everyone knew was a Democratic year. But this has been the year of the unexpected. Now, anguished Democratic Party leaders fear that the increasingly bloody struggle between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton will continue until the end of the primaries or, worse, play out further at their convention in late August-which could only benefit the Republicans' putative, and unexpected, nominee, John McCain.
The Democrats' contest has changed from simply a fierce fight for "pledged delegates," who are elected in the primaries and caucuses, which Obama is winning, into a battle to convince the as-yet-uncommitted superdelegates which candidate would be stronger in the general election-regardless of who has won the most pledged delegates. This is an issue injected into the contest by the Clinton campaign. Mathematically, there now appears to be no way for Clinton to catch up to Obama in pledged delegates; the final decision will be made by the superdelegates, who are under extreme pressure from both sides.
In this fight, the Clinton camp is the more aggressive of the two, and it's adept at what might be called molehill politics: making a very big deal in the press about something that's a very small deal-such as a single word in a mailing or a slip-up by an aide. Clinton's strategists pounce on whatever opportunity presents itself to attack Obama, and try to knock him off his own message, and his stride. Clinton's approach resembles her tactics in the White House, in which her inclination was to attack (which caused a number of problems, and was one of the reasons her health care bill was defeated). The Obama camp has sometimes been slow, and even reluctant, to respond, because if he attacks her personally (which the Clinton campaign would like him to do), he's not Barack Obama anymore. Moreover, Obama takes care not to come across as the "angry black"-a stereotype he does not fit, but that could be imposed upon him by others.
While it's true that the two remaining Democratic candidates have few substantive differences, they have very different approaches to campaigning, which give us clues about the differences in how they would govern-and that, after all, is what this whole thing is, or should be, about. It's useful to try to imagine these people in the White House, and, from their campaigning, to try to figure what they will be like there: how they will use power; how well they would sustain their appeal over a considerable period of time.
It's been long said among politicians that "the Clintons will do anything to win." Unfortunately, they are increasingly proving the point. As the primaries in Texas and Ohio approached, the Clinton campaign, which has a tendency to announce its next steps, said that it would use a "kitchen sink" strategy against Obama-and so it did: with the famous and apparently effective "red phone" ad questioning his fitness to be commander in chief; and in frequent and heavy-handed conference calls to reporters (an innovation), in which Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson makes charges against Obama, raises questions about him, or moves "goal posts" designating what Obama has to do to win. (Obama "has to win Pennsylvania," which few think is likely.) This propaganda makes its way onto cable and other news outlets. But where does, or should, a "kitchen sink" strategy belong in a presidency?
Hillary Clinton is employing conventional politics, while Obama is trying to create a new kind of politics. Similarly, as they respond to the country's desire for change, they have very different concepts of what "change" means: briefly, for Obama it means changing the very zeitgeist of Washington, creating a new way to get things done by building coalitions that transcend longstanding political divisions. For Clinton it means passing bills-though sometimes she has suggested that it means electing a woman president. ("I embody change," she said in a debate in New Hampshire.)
That Obama's style didn't work so well in Ohio and Texas, on March 4, is not surprising, although he is likely to end up with more delegates in Texas, thanks to the caucuses that followed the traditional primary voting. (The Clinton campaign is now challenging the outcome of the caucus voting.) Ohio in particular was not a welcome place for him. It's a meat-and-potatoes state (I grew up there) whose voters demand practical solutions and are not given to the romance or the leap of imagination that Obama's campaign involves.
The demographics there were not in his favor: it's older and whiter than most other states, and has a higher population of women (to whom Clinton played heavily) than any other state the two candidates had contested. A declining rust-belt state, it also has a larger number of discontented blue-collar workers than any other state in which the two candidates had campaigned before. And unlike, say, Iowa, it has a higher percentage of blacks and a history of racial conflict. Obama had had a streak of eleven straight victories, but there was always a question of how he would fare when he hit the industrial states.
Obama's victories in Maryland and Virginia on February 12, and then Wisconsin a week later, showed him gaining voters among Clinton's constituency of women, white men, and blue-collar workers, which suggested a major reshaping of the race; but that trend stopped in Ohio and in Texas-where Bill Clinton warned the voters that they had to keep his wife in the race. Obama did poorly with Hispanics, gaining only 30 percent of their vote in Texas to Clinton's 63 percent. If Obama could not win the votes of blue-collar workers and Hispanics in the general election-and this is not to say that he couldn't-that could seriously damage his chances.
That the presumed neophyte Obama has stood toe-to-toe with the Clintons (for all of Hillary Clinton's complaints about being "ganged up on," Obama has had to face both Clintons every day), has beaten them more often than not, and still might prevail is in itself remarkable. But in one important way his campaigning has fallen short. A great many people who follow politics closely simply don't "get" Obama, and can become quite angry about him. (This election is dividing friends and families like no other I've seen.) They see him as offering empty rhetoric, as simply building a movement, even a cult; the huge crowds he has drawn, his rock-star appeal, have only reinforced these suspicions. Actually, Obama is a serious student of policy-even, in the words of one adviser, a "geek"-and highly informed as a result. In Wisconsin, in some frustration-as Clinton was calling him "a talker, not a doer"-Obama said:
Everybody has got a ten-point plan on everything. You go to Senator Clinton's Web site, my Web site, they look identical.... The problem is not the lack of proposals. The question is, who can bring Democrats, independents, and Republicans into a working majority to bring about change. That's what we're doing in this campaign. This is what a working majority looks like. That's how we're going to move the country forward. That's what I offer that she can't do.
Obama has a big idea: he believes that in order to change Washington and to get some of those ten-point programs through, and to reduce the power of the lobbies and "special interests," he must first build a large coalition-Democrats, independents, Republicans, whoever-to support him in his effort to change things. He has figured out that he cannot make the kinds of changes he's talking about if he has to fight for 51-49 majorities in Congress. Therefore, he's trying to build a broader coalition, and enlist the people who have come out to see him and are getting involved in politics for the first time because of him. If he can hold that force together, members of Congress, including the "old bulls," according to a campaign aide, "will look back home and see that there is a mandate for change." Thus, Obama talks about working "from the bottom up" to bring about change. When he says he will take on the special interests and the lobbies, to him it's not as far-fetched as most jaded Washingtonians think: he intends to do that with the army he's building.
To understand Obama, one has to recognize the importance to him of his days as a community organizer in Chicago: he worked with churches, and "in the streets," to organize people to take on the powers-that-be in order to improve their living conditions and get jobs. An Obama adviser told me, "His being a community organizer is the fundamental insight and philosophy of his campaign." Thus, Obama has a fresh, even revolutionary idea about how to govern. The inspiring speeches have a far-sighted and pragmatic goal.
Being an organizer at heart-though he also practiced law in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for ten years-in the first quarter of his campaign Obama focused on setting up campaign organizations in many states and raising money, mainly through small contributions via the Internet. The Clinton campaign, by contrast, raised money from the top, so that many contributors "maxed out" early.
Obama's ability to inspire people, to draw tremendous crowds, has carried him a long way, but even though he began to season his speeches with talk about programs, he failed, in Ohio in particular, to clearly connect what he was saying to individual people's lives. He didn't bring the rhetoric down to earth, translate it into something real that voters could understand. And I think this is one reason he lost. Clinton, by contrast, got across that she was "a fighter" (her new self-description) who would produce "results for America" (her new theme) and would improve the lives of many Ohioans; she talked in specifics about what she would do, and made it all seem real. Since then, Obama has been dealing much more in specifics.
Obama's wonkish side led him early on to steep himself in position papers on numerous issues, from defense policy to health care to climate change, and from April to December of 2007 he gave speeches describing in detail how he would approach various issues. It was at this time that the press was describing him as "flat." And then he lit up the political world by giving an extraordinary speech at the Jefferson-Jackson Day dinner in Des Moines, Iowa, on November 10, 2007. The last to speak, he roused the audience, and made some subtle digs at Clinton:
This party-the party of Jefferson and Jackson; of Roosevelt and Kennedy-has always made the biggest difference in the lives of the American people when we led, not by polls, but by principle; not by calculation, but by conviction; when we summoned the entire nation to a common purpose-a higher purpose. And I run for the Presidency of the United States of America because that's the party America needs us to be right now.
Obama has been accused of being all flash, and of not having done much in the Senate. His record in the three and a half years he has been there suggests someone serious about the job: he worked on a nuclear nonproliferation bill that passed and backed a number of policy changes to help veterans, including more medical care for those with post-traumatic stress disorder, assistance for homeless veterans, and the extension of tax credits for military families. He pushed through the Senate a major bill on ethics reform; and introduced legislation in January 2007 to stop, or if that failed, limit funds for the surge. He also worked with the conservative Republican Tom Coburn in a successful effort to get Congress to impose transparency on government expenditures so that anyone can look them up. The criticism that he hasn't done more also overlooks the fact that during his first two years in the Senate, he was ninety-ninth in seniority and in the minority party. Already a celebrity when he reached Washington, he was in fact careful to be humble, and to seek the advice of his elders. (Just as Hillary Clinton did when she got to the Senate.)
As for Obama's often-questioned record as an eight-year Illinois state senator, James Warren, a managing editor of the Chicago Tribune, says,
The caricature of him as a neophyte legislator with a modest record is unfair. He was very hard-working and effective, often against significant political opposition and amid scant media attention. Through forging coalitions, he got bona fide, important legislation through on taping of police interrogations, racial profiling, ethics reform, and the earned income tax credit.
The Clinton campaign's false assumption-based on a 350-page, state-by-state study in the summer of 2007 by key strategist Mark Penn-that Clinton's victory was "inevitable" led to a series of mistakes: (1) presenting herself as the "inevitable" nominee; (2) prematurely running a general election campaign; (3) assuming that the race would be over on February 5-Super Tuesday; and (4) believing that a number of small states that held caucuses could be skipped. And if Penn's strategy didn't work there was no Plan B. It's never a good idea to have a pollster in an important policy position in a campaign, since he or she can design the polling to get the answers he or she wants, as some believed Penn had done in the Clinton White House. (Hillary Clinton brought him in after the electoral disaster of 1994.) The Clinton campaign has been divided and sometimes almost paralyzed by internal feuding among outsized egos. By contrast, this hasn't happened in the Obama campaign: Obama deliberately picked congenial people and instructed his staff that he wanted "no drama."
In early March, Clinton went from, in a debate, "I'm honored...to be here with Barack Obama...absolutely honored" to, a day and a half later, angrily, shouting, "Shame on you, Barack Obama." In that instance, she was engaging in molehill politics: a flyer on trade that the Obama campaign had sent out quoted her as saying that the North American Free Trade Agreement had been a "boon" to the United States' economy. The use of the word "boon," an accidental error, was taken from Newsday, which put in quotes the gist of her remarks.[1] Obama replied calmly. "Senator Clinton has...constantly sent out negative attacks on us, email, robo-calls, flyers, television ads, radio calls, and we haven't whined about it because I understand that is the nature of these campaigns."
Clinton's frequent switching of tactics and personas raises the question of who she is and why she's so changeable: employing a Southern accent in a Selma, Alabama, church; dropping her g's while touring in Appalachia; sounding something like a cowboy in Wyoming ("concerns that keep ya up at night"), and then back to a Southern accent in Mississippi. Clinton's variability does not mean that she lacks her own core belief about the need to help improve people's lives. But it suggests that she is not a natural politician and is willing to try almost anything, while her feuding staff gives her conflicting advice. As a result, her campaign has had no overall message, and her themes have shifted almost by the week. The disorder within her own campaign team raises questions about how she would govern.
Clinton believes that the issue of health care-in which there is one substantive difference between them-works to her advantage. She brings it up often and even harped on it in the last debate, in Cleveland, on February 26, where she came across as the dinner guest who just won't drop a subject. She argues that for health care to be universal, people must be required to participate in the plan. Obama argues that if the cost of the new insurance is low enough, people will participate. But the great debate on this issue is phony, for Clinton has refused to say how she would enforce her plan (and states that have tried enforcement programs have failed); moreover, everyone knows that campaign plans change once they reach the White House, and political compromises are made.
In debating NAFTA, the other big issue in the Ohio campaign, both candidates pandered to hard-up workers, whom the labor left has convinced that the treaty is the cause of their woes. Both pledged to renegotiate the treaty, which could cause large problems with numerous other countries, and may not even be possible. Clinton tried to disavow the treaty, despite her several past comments praising it-it had been one of her husband's major triumphs-while Obama chided her for being selective about which of her husband's achievements she wants to take credit for. But then the Clinton campaign was blessed by a report on Canadian television that one of Obama's advisers had met with a Canadian official and told him, in effect, not to worry about the heated rhetoric that Obama was using about NAFTA. Exactly what happened in this meeting-many foreign governments get in touch with campaigns to find out what's going on-remains unclear (though if the adviser did say this he was probably speaking the truth). But the Obama campaign mishandled the affair by denying for a few days that there had been a meeting. Meanwhile, Clinton pounded away, to her great benefit.
Hillary Clinton's ten-point victory in Ohio was a testament to her exceptional resilience (she sometimes went on only three hours of sleep, yet most of the time managed to look fresh and enthusiastic) and her determination when her back is to the wall. She seemed a more confident campaigner, and it helped her, as it had in New Hampshire, that before the voting there was much press babble to the effect that if she didn't win in Ohio and Texas she'd have to get out of the race. Such talk serves to bring out her followers, especially women, to rescue her. Also, race had a part in the Ohio results. The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that race mattered more in Ohio than in any other primary thus far.
From the beginning, the Clinton campaign has suggested-first in whispers by Clinton aides and then, starting earlier this year, heading into the Iowa caucuses, aloud by Clinton herself, and it continues-that Obama hasn't been "vetted." This smear is intended to suggest that there are "things there" in Obama's past (left unspecified) that could cause him real problems. Yet despite their own efforts-every campaign has "oppo" (for opposition) research-thus far the Clinton campaign has turned up nothing new about Obama. Warren, the Tribune editor, says, "His life has been very rigorously inspected by the Chicago papers, and they've been pretty tough on him. The idea that he needs to be vetted a lot more by a heretofore compliant press is baloney."
In fact the Tribune had already revealed in November 2006 something that the Clinton campaign makes much of: that Obama made arrangements in 2005 with Tony Rezko, a Chicago businessman, which yielded the Obamas extra yard space for a house they were buying-an action that Obama has numerous times described as "a mistake," and "bone-headed." At the time of the Obamas' purchase, Rezko was under grand jury investigation, and Obama has admitted it showed poor judgment on his part to do business with him because Rezko was a contributor and Obama himself was in politics. Obama recently told the Tribune that Rezko had raised more money for his earlier races than he had previously disclosed: about $250,000 in all. Rezko has not contributed to Obama's presidential campaign; but unfortunately for Obama, Rezko's trial began on the day before the Ohio and Texas primaries. Wolfson had a field day with this in his conference calls, and the press showed a renewed interest in Obama's dealings with Rezko.
On 60 Minutes the Sunday before the March 4 primaries, Clinton said that Obama was not a Muslim, "as far as I know." And on the morning after the Ohio and Texas primaries, Clinton said, icily, that now there were "new questions" about Obama, which the superdelegates should know or should have known about. She did not specify which questions she had in mind.
Shortly after that, the issue of race, which had emerged only around the margins of the Democratic contest, exploded. Some reporters felt the Clintons were making sure that Obama, who is of mixed race, was known as the black candidate. Hillary Clinton commented in a debate, "isn't it wonderful" to have a woman and an African-American in the race. (Obama could only smile gamely.) She has made similar remarks elsewhere. And there had been Bill Clinton's comments in South Carolina, such as his saying, after Obama won by a huge margin, that Jesse Jackson had won the state, too. Also noticeable was the series of Clinton allies making what could most kindly be put as racially insensitive remarks-among them Bill Shaheen, husband of the former governor of New Hampshire and co-chair of Clinton's campaign (he stepped down); BET founder Bob Johnson; and Governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania.
And then, along came Geraldine Ferraro, Walter Mondale's running mate in 1984, saying that Obama was "lucky" to be black, because that's how he'd gotten where he had. With Obama not running as the "black candidate," and not belonging to the civil rights generation, many people, perhaps naively, had thought that the issue of race could be avoided. But now this most painful subject in American life was squarely before the country.
Clinton, who had at first given a tepid response to Ferraro's comment, saying, "Well, I do not agree with that," and tried to equate both campaigns in "veering off" into the personal, had to go further. At a meeting on March 12 with a group of black publishers, someone brought up Bill Clinton's South Carolina remark and asked her how she could regain the trust of the African-American community. Mrs. Clinton replied that she was "sorry if anyone was offended," and then added, "We can be proud of both Jesse Jackson and Senator Obama."
Right on top of the Ferraro episode came-not coincidentally, some observers think-the release on television of some particularly inflammatory statements by Obama's pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright-"No, no, no. Not God bless America. God damn America." Such preaching is not uncommon in black churches and Wright's is milder than some others. That Obama attended Wright's church-the biggest and most influential black church in Chicago, a church that had done a lot of civic good-does not at all signify that he shared these particular pastoral views. Obama has had no part in the angry-black world. The controversy over Wright was not a new issue, and Obama had dropped him from giving the convocation speech at his announcement that he was running for president.
But, as always, pictures made the difference, as did the reality of what Wright had been saying. Obama's speech on race, in Philadelphia on March 18, was both a necessity and an opportunity. His description of his background as Kansas white and Kenya black, of being raised by white grandparents, and his frank and searing description of the anger of both blacks and whites over the subject of race enabled him to define himself as not simply the "black" candidate, and to forcefully restate his position as the candidate of unity. His explanation that he found some of Wright's fiery sermons "not only wrong but divisive," while he refused to "disown" him, made both moral and political sense. "This time," he said repeatedly, the country must grapple with the issues that set the two races apart. He took on a big burden.
Many Clinton people feel that it was a disastrous mistake to skip so many caucuses, which allowed Obama to rack up delegates-this was in part a result of Penn's planning; in part it reflected the fact that Obama's campaign is better at organizing than Clinton's; and in part it was because Clinton herself, since her big loss in Iowa, has made it clear she dislikes caucuses, even portraying them as somewhat illegitimate. So, out of necessity, she and her husband campaigned hard for the Wyoming caucus on Saturday, March 8, and Obama beat her 59-40.
Particularly shameless after all their attacks on Obama, including the charge that he was unfit to be commander in chief, were the unsubtle hints by the Clintons, just before the Mississippi primary on March 11, that Hillary Clinton might put Obama-the front-runner-on her ticket. Their remark was demeaning to Obama, but also meant to suggest to Mississippi blacks and others that they could have it both ways. Obama made fun of their ploy, and sought to make it clear that this was a no-go.
In any event, Obama won 90 percent of the black vote in perhaps the most racially divided state in the country. Seeking not to undermine Obama's claim to be a new kind of politician, his campaign has so far been cautious in its response to kitchen-sink politics. His campaign leaders have called for the release of Clinton's tax returns and her White House records, but there is plenty of other material that could be telling, including Bill Clinton's pardons (the National Archives says that he is holding up the release of papers about them) and the contributors to his library and his foundation. There are also questions of Bill Clinton's curious business deals since he left office.[2] (So much for having been "vetted.")
Members of the Obama team have also been raising questions about Hillary Clinton's assertions of her "experience," particularly in foreign policy. They point out that she didn't have security clearance in the White House, and could not attend National Security Council meetings. They have also been taking apart her claims of specific foreign policy successes, for example her assertion that "I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland," a claim that even Northern Ireland officials debunked recently. Or her claim that "I negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo." Of this Greg Craig, an Obama adviser and former director of the State Department Office of Policy Planning in the Clinton administration, who is now for Obama, has said that the borders were opened the day before Hillary Clinton arrived in Macedonia where she would have conducted such negotiations.
In her efforts to paint Obama as unfit to be the commander in chief, Clinton has recklessly gone so far as to argue that she and McCain are readier than Obama is: "Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience...I will bring a lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will bring a speech that he gave in 2002." Thus she dismisses Obama's claim that he had shown better judgment in 2002 by opposing the Iraq war. She has never come up with a plausible explanation of her vote to authorize the war because there isn't one. It won't do to say, as she has, that "if I would have known then what I know now," because there was ample reason to know then. Senator Bob Graham of Florida, the then chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, knew enough to strongly urge his colleagues to vote against the resolution; and he was one of twenty-two Democratic senators to do so. It was widely understood that Bush was intent on going to war. Clinton is known to have wavered on how to vote, and, like other Democrats, was advised by Democratic consultants to play it safe-to not cast a vote that might damage her political future. The irony is, of course, that she did just that.
Clinton took other steps, such as joining the Armed Services Committee, to protect herself from the sexist notion that a woman might be soft on national security. Early this year, Maureen Dowd reported that Clinton's aides were telling people that she would be a tougher leader than her husband, and "less skittish about using military power." A number of people, including former Clinton White House aides, worry that if elected Hillary Clinton might turn out to be a "Warrior Queen."
As of this writing, the Democrats are still trying to figure out what to do about the renegade voting in Michigan and Florida. A solution is complicated by Clinton's insistence on breaking Democratic Party rules by seating the delegates in those states, particularly in Florida. When I asked a close Clinton ally and adviser about this matter recently, he replied, "Rules? Rules? The rules are what people say they are. This isn't law. This isn't the Supreme Court."
At this point, Obama has about 150 more pledged delegates than Clinton, and the election expert Tad Devine says that even if Clinton wins Pennsylvania, on April 22-as she is expected to-and whatever happens in Florida and Michigan, when all the voting is done, in June, Obama will probably still have at least one hundred more pledged delegates. (Michigan is closer to settling the matter; several strategists are suggesting that Florida delegates be given a half vote, netting Clinton nineteen delegates rather than none-instead of having a civil war.)
Clinton leads in the superdelegates-having an estimated 248 to Obama's 212 (several of Clinton's signed on when she was "inevitable"); but she still lags behind Obama overall. A consensus is forming among leading Democrats that the nomination should be decided on the basis of who has the most pledged delegates; their main concern is that the outcome appear fair. If Clinton has won the popular vote, which is a possibility but difficult (at this point Obama is ahead by 700,000 votes), or most of the big states (including, presumably, Florida and Michigan), the Clinton campaign will argue, those factors should prevail. The Obama people argue that most of the "big states"-New York, Massachusetts, California-will vote Democratic in the general election anyway, and that Obama has won some important "swing states," such as Iowa, Missouri, and Virginia, as well as more states overall.
Most of the leading Democrats want to avoid a situation in which Clinton somehow wrests the nomination from Obama while he is ahead in delegates. This would leave the hundreds of thousands of people whom he has brought into the political system for the first time disillusioned-and an uproar could ensue. On March 16, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who will chair the convention, said firmly, "It's a delegate race." According to Pelosi, "The way the system works is that the delegates choose the nominee." This translates into a preference, shared with many House Democrats, for Obama to head the party ticket. Pelosi was clearly unfazed by the recent storm over race.
The superdelegates, especially the elected politicians, are worrying that the party might be cleaved in two. A large number of them favored Obama early on, and still do. A senior House Democrat told me that support for Obama is based on three things: concern that the animosity of Republicans toward Hillary Clinton would motivate them to go out and vote against the Democrats; that Obama attracts independents, which the national ticket will need; and that Obama gets the votes of blacks in overwhelming numbers, which can help in many districts as well as nationally.
Being politicians, the Capitol Hill Democrats who hadn't already committed themselves waited to see what would happen on Super Tuesday; then they waited to see what would happen in Ohio and Texas on March 4; now they are waiting to see what will happen in Pennsylvania, and also Michigan and Florida. They are hoping that the delegate race will somehow resolve itself so that they won't have to deal with a messy situation.
Elizabeth Drew, who lives in Washington, is a regular contributor to The New York Review of Books. She is the author of twelve books.
© 2008 The New York Review of Books



38 Comments so far
Show AllThis is an intelligent analysis of what has taken place. We must dispose of the Clinton clan once and for all and rid ourselves of their poisonous politics.
As I mentioned in another post, the sooner Clinton or Obama drops out, leaves that much more time for the big guns on the other side to focus on the remaining candidate.
How sad to use so many words and ignore the most salient fact: Barak's approach is based on the assumption that Republicans will abandon their billion dollar political attack industry and meekly engage with him in reasoned discourse concerning the nation's welfare. Oh my! I'm afraid that's right up there with Easter Bunnies, tooth fairies and flying pigs.
Warrior Queen? More like Bloody Mary. The idea that she would invade and murder to prove how tough she is is scary.
I read that her kitchen sink tactics have driven up her disapproval ratings another 20 points. But I am far more concerned about the examples of poor judgment and internal disarray in her campaign and how that would translate in a Clinton White House. It also doesn't bode well that her campaign is a deadbeat to small businesses providing services to her campaign, leaving a trail of unpaid bills across the country, not returning phone calls asking for payment and even ignoring certified letters. So much for concern about the little guys.
I read that the party elders are freaking out because the numbers of Obama supporters who would never vote for Clinton are going up and the number of Clinton supporters who would never vote for Obama are also going up. Sounds like cannibalism of the Democratic party. Maybe this will go down in history as the year of the Democratic disaster that didn't have to happen. On the one hand, it would be a shame for the Democrats to ruin a perfectly good record of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. On the other hand, it would be a shame for the Democrats to throw away an opportunity to really change our approach to problem resolution, which Obama is offering us. Interesting times.
kathyodat
EEYORE, where did you get that idea? Did you make it up?
kathyodat
Elizabeth Drew writes too many words with too little to say--I think she needs more forceful editing.
My view is that Clinton and Obama should both drop out. Vote Green or die.
EEYORE -- I'm so sorry that both your tale and tail are so far lost and forlorn.
Miracles occur for those willing to take action upon their dreams.
"Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it.
Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Namaste
TOM COBURN? Transparency in government? You mean the "lets execute abortion providers and adulterer's" Tom Coburn? The flat earth religious nut Tom Coburn? Who would have thunk it?
Poet - you said it. The adjective 'molehill' got me to read this piece, kept waiting to learn something but didn't.
I want to see more force to the supers to come out and just vote now. They are proving that even 'super' delegates are just people who are afraid. Damnit take a stand. The future caucases and primaries can go ahead. But we need to know now, and behave now, knowing where the party heavy hitters are.
These flashy, expensive extravaganzas called "primaries," performed for the benefit of mainstream-media profits, don't impress me at all as a way of choosing candidates. With idiots like Candy Crowley and Wolf Blitzer preening themselves before the cameras while destroying the credibility of every candidate, how can Americans expect to make anything close to a rational decision?
This whole situation stinks and is gonna lead to a McCain win in November.
With "so little difference" between Hilary Rodham Klanton and Barak Obama, why the hell is Rash Windbag blowing so hard to see Obama, not Klanton bloodied up? Think about that!
"Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience…I will bring a lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will bring a speech that he gave in 2002."
**Yeah--Clinton's great.
Since she cant win unless she strong arms super delegates, she should drop out. For her to say it isnt letting voters choose, is like saying all the democratic nominees should stay in the race whether they have a chance to win or not.
However-I agree that whoever emerges as the nominee, the democrats will be fractured--the racist Clinton supporters are far more unlikely to vote for Obama according to polls, and the Republicans will focus on the remainder with full force. You will see "Hussein" everywhere.
But as long as Obama doesnt wimp out like Kerry or Gore, he has a better fighting chance--until Bush attacks Iran.
The love affair the mainstream media continues to have with Barack Obama astonishes me! I've looked at all of the election data and it's clear to me the Democrats would do better with Hillary Clinton in the fall. If you look closely at where they have drawn their votes, which states they have each won, Clinton wins where it is necessary for Democrats to win, and Obama wins where it is less likely for Dems to win - and he jeopardizes those necessary states, too! Esp. since it is clear that he lacks the experience to handle the inevitable attacks & creation of a counter-narrative that will raise doubts about him (it will be easy to do) in the fall.
I think Democrats are making their usual mistake and nominating the wrong candidate. I'm not a Clinton supporter per se (I usually vote outside of the two party system; I'm an independent-progressive). I hope superdelegates wise up and we get our first ever woman President in November. (She will win so long as the Republicans don't steal their third election in a row).
Says Rich Griffin: "I hope superdelegates wise up and we get our first ever woman President in November."
This is exactly the problem with the Hillary candidacy. Backing her because she doesn't have a penis (so far as we know) is not a logical reason for backing her. Now if you want to back her because she would be a good president, that's different. But I really think that many of her supporters are doing so only because she's a woman for reasons that escape me.
zoya March 30th, 2008 1:10 pm
"With idiots like Candy Crowley and Wolf Blitzer preening themselves before the cameras while destroying the credibility of every candidate, how can Americans expect to make anything close to a rational decision?"
Zoya,
If they are incapable of thinking beyond idiocy, we can't expect them to make a rational decision. We have to deal with the fact that most of them have accepted their role as "indentured servants" - no questions asked!
Most of the population is working 40+ hrs. per week; paying for and watching cable television; paying a portion of, or all of their health insurance costs and a variety of others as well; paying higher utility bills; paying more for gasoline to get back and forth to work; paying higher tuition for their childrens' education; paying higher food bills and putting it on their credit cards along with clothing and other necessities. They just can't keep up with increasing costs!
Everything we can think of has gone higher except wages!
Most people are so busy working two jobs and worrying about their debt that they don't have time to "investigate" or even make the connection between debt and the politicians who are ultimately responsible for keeping them in a state of servitude. Most of them are simply hard-working people who can only process what they hear or read from the mass media; there is nothing in-between or beyond.
Sad, but true!
Both HRC and BO are on the corporate payroll - the only difference is one uses prettier words to distract from the fact that neither can suck down the big bucks fast enough.
Only the truly deluded - and liberals and progressives can just as easily delude themselves as can the 41 million who still support the Loonitary Decider and McCrazy - believe an employee of the Big Energy-Defense-Security-Finance-Telecom-Government industrial complex will be a deliverer of "change."
Nader, Paul, McKinney, or more and more of the same. Period.
This woman is about the best the US mainstream media can do except in Madison WI, and thus explains why the more people pay attention the US mainstream media the less they damn know.
AD,
Thanks for asking us to "Think" why Rash Windbag wants Obama "bloodied up". Because he knows Hillary is utterly defeatable in November. If we mess around and nominate her, I assure you her lying about her Bosnia landing among snipers will be the big story playing on TV all fall to prove she is not only untrustworthy but unworthy be Commander in Chief after so carelessly INSULTING the U.S. Military. Our armed forces most certainly did not allow the first lady to land anywhere "under fire" or under any threat whatsoever. That she said they did is both a bald-faced lie AND an insult of breathtaking ignorance and arrogance toward the forces themselves.
There is also the fact that Obama could debate McCain under the table anytime anywhere, and will do so if nominated.
Rash Windbag knows this.
Meanwhile, as I plan to mention over and over and over on this site, evangelical voters MUST be told about McCain's twenty-five years in the big beer business with wife Cindy, and how this has put $40 million or so onto his net worth.
Every liberal and progressive should know about Hensley & Company (Phoenix) and shout it to the rooftops for the conservatives to hear. Google and learn. Then tell the story every day. It is the single biggest vulnerability of John McCain. He CANNOT win without the protestant church voters, and they will not vote en masse for a beer profiteer IF THEY KNOW ABOUT IT.
Win? Win what? Win a chance to preside over a failed nation? Is there a Sanity Clause in our Constitution?
EEYORE and Rich Griffen___ Good thinking, both of you. This insane deification of Obama has gotten completely out of control. Anyone should realize that while a fine candidate, he will not be able to deliver what he is promising, even if he gets the job. The Repubs will have quite an arsenal of ammunition ready if he gets nominated and he may not have a better chance than Clinton against McCain.
Daniel David - McCain's biggest vulnerability might be Marie, the Flame of Florida, his stripper girlfriend back when he was learning how to crash airplanes in Sarasota- waking up, one imagines, on the floor of her trailer with the popcorn and spilled whiskey. Tell us more about big beer. I'm not evangelical, but I'm ok with beer generally.
Good sense from the NYRB.
Here are two big differences between the campaigns. Clinton is in bed with big biz and the war machine, and uses the rightwing smear tactics that big biz and the war machine are known for. Obama advocates fundamental changes in economic & foreign policies, and mainly avoids rightwing gutter tactics.
If Democratic primary voters have any sense, they'll see Clinton's smears for what they are, see Obama's proposals for change and his gentlemanly civility for what they are, and vote accordingly. If not, the Democratic Party doesn't deserve Obama. And if the Dems don't deserve him, the country doesn't, either.
Hillary's latest, having major fund raisers tell Pelosi to be more open/flexible on superdelegates basically attempting to armtwist Pelosi. Pelosi deserved it for her spinelessness on the DLC supporting candidates not comkmitted to getting us out of Iraq.
Clinton accepted Rupert Murdoch holding a fund raiser for her early on. WTF???!?
McCain is vulnerable. Supporting a war of aggression, "Bomb Iran" to the tune of Barbara Ann, the walk through the Bagdad Market with 100 troops and 3 helicopter gunships overhead, crimi9nality of the Bush administration, economics. That last won should have his opponents working him over but good. Think FDR vs. Hoover.
Although FDR would now be called a radical liberal (oxymoron) by the DLC and waaay too many dems.
McCain and Guliani were the two Republicans I thought most likely to implode. Guiliani's strategy took himself out.
McCain's trying to parlay "War Hero" label, courage in being a POW into being a capable President/Commander in Chief is so much BOOLSHIT.
His surrendering on torture to Bush-Cheney is proof.
(BTW, Betrayus was extraordinarily thin /nonexistant leadership in combat experience- another Oli North politicos in olive drab/desert camo. McCain says the'll go down as one of the greatest American military leaders. Proof that McCain has equal grasps on military leadership and economics, that is, McCain can't find his butt with both hands and a team of protologists.)
Where are the Democrats when it comes to countering voter suppression? Voter suppression is an albatross for McCain too. The last 2 Attorney Generals Gonzo and Pukecasey, running interference for criminal activity. Which is criminal in itself. Especially as AG.
Reads like an ad for Obama...
Never seen anything like it. Instead of prosecuting the current criminals, they want to elect new ones. All three wannabes vote in the US Senate to fund an illegal occupation over and over in violation of the supreme law of the land. They all stand by while capitalists double-gouge healthcare recipients. Do you want to finally make a stand against the capitalists? Then write in third party progressive candidates in the November elections.
Clinton is as unstable and out-of-touch as Bush.
The one lie the MSM covered for a day or two was just the tip of the iceberg. She lied about Northern Ireland, NAFTA and last night I saw her speaking about the S-chip program again like it was her baby:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/14/clinton_role_in_health_program_disputed/
This in addition to the ugly race-baiting and suspicion that she would prefer McCain to position herself for '12. It isn't like she got down and dirty to bring down the Bush crowd. Obama may be adverse to knocking her out of the park--but someone should. We do not want or need more of the same and the problem with the Bush administration is so few called them on anything. Obama may not be ideal but Clinton is a horror story.
The two Dems range from practical to Machiavellian. Obama evidently thought he needed traditional cold warrior types and wall street types among his advisors. Pity. He is better than most of them. Clinton has a pretty good grasp of chicanery all by herself.
If McCain is elected - well that is a failed Rorschach test for this nation, makes us an even bigger disgrace in the eyes of the world, guarantees endless war on a large scale, and who knows about the domestic picture. Free beer on the unemployment line and in the tent cities?
With the Dems, I believe the best we can hope for is lukewarm diplomacy abroad backed up with militarism and an FDR "lets save capitalism from itself" policy at home (although structural ruin and international competition may make this strategy untenable in these times).
Whoever gets the nomination, whoever wins, we have similar tasks. The citizens must become the bosses of what happens here. The left must...
1. Educate the public about the content behind the issues and specifically where each candidate stands. Tie the issues to larger concerns like military spending, corporate domination and the environment.
2. Listen to the people in your community. Find venues and methods to help the public get their voices heard on the issues that affect their lives.
3. Register voters in large numbers and suggest they make their showing up at the polls contingent of certain policy commitments.
4. Vote for third party candidates or use them as a back up threat to get certain concessions.
5. Most importantly, see the elections not as a culmination of anything but as a beginning of citizens taking more control.
kathyodat
Excellent post!
By the way some of you, I am really growing tired of the "Clinton supporter is a racist if they won't vote for Obama" rant. Did it ever occur to you that some people just disagree with you and our candidate?
I'm probably going to vote for him and I don't support Hillary. But that doesn't mean I think he is Luke Skywalker and every one else is on the dark side.
If you don't stop the Republican and Leftist tactics of "if they disagree with me they must be stupid, senile or horrible, nasty people" you will continue to divide and diminish the country. I'd think you'd have had enough of that over the last 8 years. I have. Progressives should always be ready to listen to anyone. If you won't. you'd make a great neocon.
Politicians are so hot to talk about their religion. If you are anything besides an extreme right wing evangelical Christian Hillary's religion should scare you.
Namaste, sorrowfully, EEYORE must take issue with you when you say that "miracles occur for those willing to take action upon their dreams." Sorry but there are no miracles; only temporary mysteries. This sad donkey is often accused of cynicism, and, I guess, if you define the word as does Ambrose Bierce, I'd have to agree: "Cynic, n: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be."
EEYORE -- We actually are no so far apart.
I just prefer to create something new and unprecedented by focusing upon a possible future, and that then materializes (however mysteriously, or through grace, or source of all existence).
What you may not be able to see clearly, is that by focusing upon what IS (which no one argues is "real" today), you are actually being the creator of a recurring repetition of those forms and ideas (rubber stamped into the future). My guess is that you didn't know you had it in you, and cannot find any evidence of such tripe.
Another well worn definition of a cynic is "one who knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing".
Would it not be valuable for you to "improve" that faulty vision you have, and share in the abundance that many around you already enjoy? Elsewhere today, on CD, I read of the comparison of smiles and good feelings everywhere else upon this Earth, as the natural state of people, but no so for US in the USoA. Why is that?
I believe that we too easily fall into a victim role, when perceive so much depressing "input" around us, while the greater good the universe is always right there in front of us - if we'd only learn to look with "new" eyes.
I guess that would be perhaps a miracle?
Namaste
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Sad to say, Namaste, this cynical donkey does not know the price of your torrential outpouring, but does know its value. Seek examples closer to home. Focus in on Governor Patrick of Massachusetts - "together we can" - and measure his success in the ugly reality of the political process. It has been sad at best, I'm sorry to say. Fool me once....
kathyodat-so sorry, but EEYORE never makes things up, he's far too un-clever for that. As Christopher says, always look for the real! AEI, Heritage, Manhattan, and all the rest are just waiting for Barack to emerge victorious. Do you have a clue as to the power of "swift-boating?" Take your enemy's strength and turn it into a weakness. For example: Kerry served with grace and courage in Viet Nam; Bush skulked in Texas. Who's the tough guy? Bush. We're only seeing a foretaste as they swift-boat Barak with his pastor. God forbid that I or anyone else should be tarred with their pastor's sermons. Mostly boring, and who besides EEYORE wants to be boring? Child, they're going to get him, not reason with him.
Namaste--bless you for your efforts! I have been silent for a time---too difficult to stay centered and positive in the midst of so much discord here on CD. For a time I could not even read, let alone participate, but when I do read, I look for your posts---they are a real beacon that burns brighter than you might think.
I just keep saying to myself, " for those who have ears to hear, for those who have eyes to see..." There are many of us here on Gaia and we are working hard to dream that New earth into full blown manifestation. Don't let anyone talk you out of being a dreamer. Imagination is everything!!!!
Thank you STAROFTHESEA -- You are illustrative of the ineffable synchronicity that profoundly draws (etches?) into my BEING yet to become.
I have such depth of feeling, that my compass loses North within, toward what I may become.
As you may have read elsewhere, the dark void of space pulls me deeper into unmanifest consciousness, while the softness of loving starlight tugs me toward a future unconsidered. I grow stronger although in tenuous shadows to who I thought I was, and drink the solace of my shared companions upon the journey with no beginning nor end.
Bless your quasararity buoyantly reflecting upon the waters of dreamfulness, casting marks toward destiny (?)
Namaste
NAMASTE-----WOW!!!
STAROFTHESEA -- U . R . A . WOW . R . 2 (you are a WOW'er too)
I'm but eggcitation, awaiting shellessening
while you telexhilarate dustsmoldering stars to come
Namaste