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Shame on Them and Shame on Us
This week, the Iraq war claimed its 4,000th American killed in action, but that sad and tragic milestone came as the war seems to have slipped off the evening news, off the front pages and from the minds of the American people.
I suppose this benign neglect of so important and damaging an event is combat fatigue on the part of the public. No doubt the White House is happy to see Iraq shoved to a back burner, just as all three presidential candidates are relieved to talk about something else, anything else, but their half-baked ideas about the war.
Shame on them, and shame on us, for such callous indifference to the service, sacrifice and suffering of the families of the dead, wounded and injured troops who've given so much for so little in return.
Vice President Cheney again stuck both feet in his mouth by saying and then repeating that we should remember that our military is composed entirely of volunteers; that our troops all volunteered for this duty, this burden, this sacrifice.
What's your point, Mr. Vice President? That because they volunteered to serve our country in uniform it's okay to squander their lives in a war of choice, your choice and your president's, and that it somehow matters less than if they'd been dragooned into service by press gangs or a draft like the one you dodged with five deferments during the Vietnam War because, you said, you had "better things to do"?
The 58,249 Americans who were killed in the war of your youth had better things to do than rest under their white marble, government-issue tombstones. I'm certain, too, that the 4,000 Americans who've died in the war that you and President Bush launched five years ago for no good reason and several that weren't true had better things to do than die under your command.
No sooner did you and your boss begin celebrating "victory" in the surge in Iraq than new problems erupted in one of the most critical parts of the country, the southern Shiite Muslim city of Basra and nearby oilfields and ports.
Iraq government soldiers are fighting it out with the Mahdi Army of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr for control of Basra, and the truce that's helped keep a fragile peace in Baghdad's toughest neighborhoods began to unravel. Sadr's militiamen rained mortars and rockets on the Green Zone - the headquarters of the Iraqi government and American diplomats and military commanders - as a pointed reminder of who still holds some good cards in this game.
Sadr turned off his murderous militia for reasons of his own last August, and casualty figures for American forces began falling sharply because Shiite militias were responsible for as much as 65 percent of U.S. casualties. If Sadr now turns his war back on, our casualty figures could rise as swiftly as they fell.
We'll get a good idea from the fighting in Basra about how strong the American-trained Iraqi Army really is as it goes up against Sadr's militiamen. The Iraqi police - American-trained but heavily infiltrated by another militia, the Iranian-backed Badr Organization - ran for their lives early in the fighting.
By the time the U.S. commander in Iraq, Army Gen. David Petraeus, arrives in Washington during the second week of April to report to the president and the Congress on the achievements of the surge, he may have less good news to report.
But none of this makes a damn bit of difference if most Americans don't care and don't want to know anything, good or bad, about Iraq, the war and our troops.
That's the sort of apathy and know-nothingness that elected and then re-elected Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. They're what happens when fewer than half the eligible voters in this great experiment in democracy and freedom even care enough to vote on Election Day.
Meantime, our volunteer troops - who comprise about one-half of 1 percent of our population of 300 million - soldier on, bearing the burden and making all the sacrifices on behalf of all the rest of us.
The war that Americans don't want to know about drags on because its authors don't care what you think or even if you think. In fact, they'd prefer that you didn't think or ask any pesky questions that they can't answer without lying.
Joseph L. Galloway, a military columnist for McClatchy Newspapers, is the co-author, with Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, of "We Were Soldiers Once … and Young," a story of the first large-scale ground battle of the Vietnam War.
© 2008 McClatchy Newspapers



49 Comments so far
Show Allokiegal wrote:
"And we will stay until 'the enemy' is defeated. No one bothers to define 'the enemy.' It obviously isn't limited to Osama bin Laden.
"Is is Al Qaeda? Is it the Sunni? The Shia? Iran? Who is it? McCain says we will stay until 'the enemy' is defeated."
The "enemy" that Bush, Cheney, and McCain (and probably Hillary would agree) are referring to are non-wealthy US citizens who would resist a dictatorship, virtual slavery, and inevitable and eternal poverty and who still believe in equality, justice, and the constitution. Bush, Cheney, and McCain plan to stay in Iraq until this enemy is defeated once and for all.
Richard Paine:
I grew up in an area where the constitution was routinely ignored. That ignorance was a bit hard to ignore, and gave me a long-lasting contempt for
"laws". In practice, laws are whatever the ruling classes deem them to be.
If it is expedient to ignore them, that will be the order of the day(think
of nearly any "Indian" treaty ever entered into).
Bush and Cheney are unscathed as of this date, and unless they leave the United States, they are not likely to be scathed.
Laws are a fine thing. They give us benchmarks of social morality, but in and of themselves, they mean nothing. They are real only to the extent that they are enforced...and are our present powers that be going to enforce any
laws aimed at justice and fairness? It is a rhetorical question. The enforcement of justice and fairness will not come from the organs of government; it will come from direct action.
Constitutions, however verbally apotheosed, mean nothing in and of themselves.
odoco:
I do not disagree with the concept that most US military personnel were conned into it, although by now there is no excuse to know better. However, it was not just the Bush administration that led the US to re-expand the war, or a compliant Congress, but also the individuals inside the military itself. The greatest criticism goes to those wearing the stars, who kept critical information from the US public about the likely outcomes and costs of the war. However, all US military personnel are legally adults and should be expected to behave that way. Legally there never was an excuse according to the official Nuremberg principle of law. The other Nuremberg principle is why they get away with it: if the criminals are numerous and win, they get away with it. Curtis LeMay and Bomber Harris were more guilty than several who hanged at Nuremberg.
"Support the Troops", "Our Brave Troops" are the same nonsense that led to the slaughter of so many millions in WW1. At least then they concentrated on each other, now they concentrate on civilians because there is no opposing military to fight.
As a practical matter, forgiveness and reconciliation are needed. But, this is not appropriate without repentance, which so far only a small fraction have demonstrated.
Hamburger, beer, sports, porn, drugs, movies. Let's eat! let's drink! Let's get high! To hell with Iraq, who cares, I am on a mission to get as fat as possible so I can be happy. I know no other way of being happy. Don't mention the war!
The fact that 50% of Americans don't vote is not just a sign of apathy, it is a sign that people don't see that their vote will do much for them. This is a failure of democracy as well as of the people.
I know someone else commented on this but it just strikes me as seriously messed up: "Shame on them, and shame on us, for such callous indifference to the service, sacrifice and suffering of the families of the dead, wounded and injured troops who've given so much for so little in return."
How about SHAME ON THE TROOPS who kill and maim in the name of corporate profits. There's nothing honorable about being a paid killer. You Americans need to stop worshiping at that alter of military power... It's nothing but evil.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man in despised. To give a more accurate take on this old saying.
This would be an amost great country except corporate greed, political corruption, and a generally and willfully ignorant population.
I was talking to an ex-marine about whether he got any disability payment for injuries he recieved; he said he thought about it, but wasn't very good at filling out forms. To be clear we're not talking about a brain injury here.
The professional liars in DC are using the "volunteer military" as simple tools and care nothing about their welfare. I hear rumors that the military command is all high on Jesus--god help us!
Can we really afford that war? Can really afford cigarette manufacturers? Gov. Arnold with 5 Hummers? Can we really afford any politician (aka professsional liar) who doesn't shout that conserving oil is more important than any terrorists. Can we really afford hedge funds? Can we really afford to let Wall Street run the economy? Can we really afford to run up the national debt and give more tax breaks to the richest 0.01%. Can we really afford Donald Trump? Can we really afford Halliburton, Blackwater, and hundred os other major predators.
Can we survive as a nation? Will global warming drown the whole state of Florida? Will we be able to afford food? Will you have a job? The people don't want to hear and don't want to think. No pol (aka professional liar)
will deliver the bad news.
The end is nearer than you think. Good luck to the few good people in the world.
Shame,Shame, Shame. What a horror
I am 45 and never voted until now- Now meaning 2000 when I was
38 and wanted "Anyone else but Bush". I am living in Colorado, a land of milk and honey in my dim witted vision. Colorado is an amazing land to see for all those ignorant fools out there- From my front door I can see a good stretch of the Colorado Front Range- an amazing view of mountains in the heart of the Indian Peaks. Among the highest is Mt. Audobon- sp? 13,200'- A monster by any estimation- anyway a sweet view from the Denver area. Who says that America is not beautiful? These mountains prove that it is. My back yard is still a little cold to make any tomatoes and peppers. They are one month away from thriving in the outdoors. Don't BS me- I know these plants since I have lived with them for years!!
Cat here! the game is for the world...the new world order...we will not loose...but forget the vote...the fix is in...all the systems are in place to make life on this planet very unpleasant...
anyone check out a "nut" named David Icke on youtube? We each and every one of us is on our own...No club membership is going to save the day...you can't trust anyone or anything ... So...Whats the answer? THEY FEED ON YOU...YOU FEED ON OTHERS. The system has been in place so long you think it's the only way to play...?
When you stop feeding them...they dissolve...It still isn't going to be pretty. Share everything...use less...refuse the plastic toys and the guilt of debt...the world is now set up to enslave some of us and cull the rest...your own have sold you out for greed... hierarchy?? question it? live simply, learn to take care of yourselves and the planet...STOP SUCKING THE TIT OF THE SYSTEM AND BLAMING THE PUPPETS. Consider? We belong to the earth not she to us? Many minds must become one mind and remain many.
No leaders...No followers. Pretty tough huh? got to turn you back on everything you have been told life is for to live!
Cat here! the game is for the world...the new world order...we will not loose...but forget the vote...the fix is in...all the systems are in place to make life on this planet very unpleasant...
anyone check out a "nut" named David Icke on youtube? Or What is money? also on youtube. We each and every one of us is on our own...No club membership is going to save the day...you can't trust anyone or anything ... So...Whats the answer? THEY FEED ON YOU...YOU FEED ON OTHERS. The system has been in place so long you think it's the only way to play...?
When you stop feeding them...they dissolve...It still isn't going to be pretty. Share everything...use less...refuse the plastic toys and the guilt of debt...the world is now set up to enslave some of us and cull the rest...your own have sold you out for greed... hierarchy?? question it? live simply, learn to take care of yourselves and the planet...STOP SUCKING THE TIT OF THE SYSTEM AND BLAMING THE PUPPETS. Consider? We belong to the earth not she to us? Many minds must become one mind and remain many.
No leaders...No followers. Pretty tough huh? got to turn your back on everything you have been told life is for to live!
Cat here! the game is for the world...the new world order...we will not loose...but forget the vote...the fix is in...all the systems are in place to make life on this planet very unpleasant...
anyone check out a "nut" named David Icke on youtube? Or What is money? also on youtube. We each and every one of us is on our own...No club membership is going to save the day...you can't trust anyone or anything ... So...Whats the answer? THEY FEED ON YOU...YOU FEED ON OTHERS. The system has been in place so long you think it's the only way to play...?
When you stop feeding them...they dissolve...It still isn't going to be pretty. Share everything...use less...refuse the plastic toys and the guilt of debt...the world is now set up to enslave some of us and cull the rest...your own have sold you out for greed... hierarchy?? question it? live simply, learn to take care of yourselves and the planet...STOP SUCKING THE TIT OF THE SYSTEM AND BLAMING THE PUPPETS. Consider? We belong to the earth not she to us? Many minds must become one mind and remain many.
No leaders...No followers. Pretty tough huh? got to turn your back on everything you have been told life is for, to live!
Joey, I agree with you most of the time, but this statement is WRONG:
"Shiite militias were responsible for as much as 65 percent of U.S. casualties."
Suggestion: read Dr. Juan Cole's blog, he will straighten out some of your disinformation, e.g.
Sunday, February 11, 2007
NYT Falls for Bogus Iran Weapons Charges
Completely Implausible Numbers are Thrown Around
Repeat of Judy Miller Scandal
This NYT article depends on unnamed USG sources who alleged that 25 percent of US military deaths and woundings in Iraq in October-December of 2006 were from explosively formed penetrator bombs fashioned in Iran and given to Shiite militias:
' In the last three months of 2006, attacks using the weapons accounted for a significant portion of Americans killed and wounded in Iraq, though less than a quarter of the total, military officials say.'
This claim is one hundred percent wrong. Because 25 percent of US troops were not killed fighting Shiites in those three months. Day after day, the casualty reports specify al-Anbar Province or Diyala or Salahuddin or Babil, or Baghdad districts such as al-Dura, Ghaziliyah, Amiriyah, etc.--and the enemy fighting is clearly Sunni Arab guerrillas. And, Iran is not giving high tech weapons to Baathists and Salafi Shiite-killers. It is true that some casualties were in "East Baghdad" and that Baghdad is beginning to rival al-Anbar as a cemetery for US troops:
Robert Burns of AP observes,
"The increasingly urban nature of the war is reflected in the fact that a higher percentage of U.S. deaths have been in Baghdad lately. Over the course of the war through Feb. 6, at least 1,142 U.S. troops have died in Anbar province, the heart of the Sunni Arab insurgency, according to an AP count. That compares with 713 in Baghdad. But since Dec. 28, 2006, there were more in Baghdad than in Anbar - 33 to 31."
Over all, only a fourth of US troops had been killed Baghdad (713 or 23.7 percent of about 3000) through the end of 2006. But US troops aren't fighting Shiites anyplace else-- Ninevah, Diyala, Salahuddin--these are all Sunni areas. For a fourth of US troops to be being killed or wounded by Shiite EFPs, all of the Baghdad deaths would have to be at the hands of Shiites!
The US military often does not announce exactly where in Baghdad a GI is killed and so I found it impossible to do a count of Sunni versus Shiite neighborhoods. But we know that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki was running interference for the Mahdi Army last fall, and it seems unlikely to me that very many US troops died fighting Shiites in Baghdad. The math of Gordon's article does not add up at all if this were Shiite uses of Iran-provided EFPs.
So the unnamed sources at the Pentagon are reduced to implying that Iran is giving sophisticated bombs to its sworn enemies and the very groups that are killing its Shiite Iraqi allies every day. Get real!
Moreover, there is no evidence of Iranian intentions to kill US troops. If Iran was giving EFPs to anyone, it was to the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq and its Badr Corps paramilitary, for future use. SCIRI is the main US ally in Iraq aside from the Kurds. I don't know of US troops killed by Badr, certainly not any time recently.
It is far more likely that corrupt arms merchants are selling and smuggling these things than that there is direct government- to- militia transfer. It is possible that small Badr Corps stockpiles were shared or sold. That wouldn't have been Iran's fault.
Some large proportion of US troops being killed in Iraq are being killed with bullets and weapons supplied by Washington to the Iraqi army, which are then sold by desperate or greedy Iraqi soldiers on the black market. This problem of US/Iraqi government arms getting into the hands of the Sunni Arab guerrillas is far more significant and pressing than whatever arms smugglers bring in from Iran.
We now know that Iran came to the US early in 2003 with a proposal to cooperate with Washington in overthrowing Saddam Hussein, and that VP Richard Bruce Cheney rebuffed it. The US could have had Iran on its side in Iraq!
The attempt to blame these US deaths on Iran is in my view a black psy-ops operation. The claim is framed as though this was a matter of direct Iranian government transfer to the deadliest guerrillas. In fact, the most fractious Shiites are the ones who hate Iran the most. If 25 percent of US troops are being killed and wounded by explosively formed projectiles, then someone should look into who is giving those EFPs to Sunni Arab guerrillas. It isn't Iran.
Finally, it is obvious that if Iran did not exist, US troops would still be being blown up in large numbers. Sunni guerrillas in al-Anbar and West Baghdad are responsible for most of the deaths. The Bush administration's talent for blaming everyone but itself for its own screw-ups is on clear display here.
We need to break the Iraq war down to the basics and repeat it over and over again. Use cheney's and bush's (rove's) strategy but repeat the truth instead of lies.
This war was based on lies. At least 4,000 of our troops died, most likely very much higher than that. Perhaps 1.2 million innocent Iraqis died due to this illegal war.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that the official reason Saddam died from the end of a rope was based on killing about 120 of his own people?
The main course correction measure is seeing to it that John McCain is not elected in November.
And truthmonger above is quite right about repetition. It works and it is very much needed.
They were lured and volunteered. The diff between them and the foreclosed is that they were lied to and 4,000 of them lost their lives as a result.
The repetition must include the fact that the invasion was illegal. The media shifts to incompetence and NEVER say that we were/are wrong from the beginning. Now we are just bombing anyone who fights. We know nothing of whom we are killing. Every day a new, worse thing.
Cheney is about as low as it is possible for a person to be. If everyone had the attitude he and Bush did when it was their turn we would have no military that he thinks is so great and is the answer to all problems.
DD above is right, no matter who one votes for, do not vote for McWar as he will be as bad or worse than we have now.
We simply have to do the grunt work of total political REFORM! This means: switching to a multi-party parliamentary system; making corporate lobbying illegal; taking $$$ out of the electoral equation; abolishing the undemocratic U.S. senate; challenging any and all electoral tampering, voter purges, lost votes, etc.; supporting 3rd parties, breaking the death grip of this "two" party system that is broken beyond repair - it's time for NEW abolitionists to bring an end to the stranglehold these murderous thugs and corporate thieves have on our lives!
Who's going to repeat the message? The corporate media are embedded with the corporate government. Isn't that the new FCC rule? It seems so.
Watch their gleeful coverage of the Obama/Clinton mutual destruction pact. Note how they continue to portray "liberal" as a disparaging term.
And don't forget the McMedia's love affair with their "straight talking, maverick war hero" McCain.
If Americans were stupid enough to re-elect Bush, they are stupid enough to elect McCain. And we know who wins if the election is close. The Republican anti-democracy machinery is still intact.
I like the suggestion from John Dolan in his article at AlterNet. Let's see some bumper stickers and signs that read, "Republicans: Millionaires and Suckers".
This is a fight for our freedom and being nice won't cut it.
Fighting Words: How to Humiliate -- and Convert -- a Right-Winger
By John Dolan, AlterNet
http://www.alternet.org/story/80507/
Who cares?
American tv dumbed down to American 8th grade intelligence level; reality shows replace reality, and farce and stupidity draw an emotional blanket in front of the pain and death created by US. Recruiters routinely lie to the most disadvantaged to steal their lives - and please tell me what would happen to this all volunteer force if this country really provided affordable tech training or college programs for all children - then where would this 'patriotism' be that Cheney and Bush blah blah about all the time? Do you think these kids would be putting their asses on the line if this great 'democracy' of ours provided choices?
How come many of the upper-level NCOs have left?
How come so many captains and majors have left - the backbone of our infantry leadership class.
How come the right wing has recruited these so-called 'freedom' groups to infiltrate our high schools and feed their warrior / hero worship bullshit to our children? Think you would see any of these nasty little Nazi groups at the upper eschelon private schools - yeah, right - give me a break.
I post here alot - I usually try to be analytical - issues oriented. But the truth is this - the only thing these bastards understand is power - and if the people do not find an effective way to combat / isolate / remove this cancerous growth we refer to as Bush / Cheney / McCain / NeoCon / Corporatist / Religious Right (in truth - they're neither)then we will have allowed them to destroy this country, and probably much of the rest of the world.
Most Americans dawdle in their ignorance, complacent as long as they can stick beans and rice in their mouths and watch their insipid tv programs.
Question is: what happens when the beans and rice aren't there? That, my friends, is when the revolution will begin.
Odoco is right on but is more optimistic than I am. I think our democracy is done. My only hope is that Obama can rescue it at the last moment.
Remember----4000 kia in Iraq & suicides in Iraq and suicides after discharge amount to many more than 4000. Then add those who have died of wounds after discharge and those suffering from depleted uranium and brain injuries.
4000 is just the beginning!
Then, lets get rid of the beans and rice then. Everyone who blogs here acts like all we need to do is A)Figure out that there is a problem. B)Go to the polls and vote it right again. We cant vote our way out of a hijacked democracy anymore than we can impeach Bush & Cheney. I'm terribly sorry. I think its too damn late!
The MSM, the corporate press, wants McCain to win. This is as obvious as George Wanker Bush's cowardice. They don't give a rat's ass what happens in Iraq; they simply want the pirates and killers of the Republican party to keep shoveling the $$$$ their way - something which is a little less likely with a Democrat as president. Therefore, beginning now, ignore coverage of the war, and the average uninformed, poorly educated citizen will think everything's going our way, or even that the occupation is over. But at any and all costs . . . McCain must win. And he probably will because as dudleydoright says above, it's too damn late.
"Shame on them, and shame on us, for such callous indifference to the service, sacrifice and suffering of the families of the dead, wounded and injured troops who've given so much for so little in return."
Shame on Galloway for ignoring the truth. All except a few percent of the veterans of the war, and all except an even smaller percentage of the dead, are Iraqi civilians. US troops sacrifice the lives of others, and only occasionally their own. The "War on Drugs" sacrifices many more US lives per year than the Iraq war costs US lives.
Galloway has "embedded reporter" syndrome, akin to the "Stockholm syndrome" in hostage cases. He is too close to the US military to see the larger picture.
Right on, Dudley......
All one has to do to see that election is rigged (again. Don't you morons realize that we was robbed in 2000 and 2002 and 2004 and 2006- or do you think Ms. Pelosi is a Democrat and that the Repubs will voluntarily not do what they did before, and do you think the touch-screen voting machines will be replaced with pen and paper this time?) is to be aware of one simple fact:
McCain, through his ties with the neocons, including President Cheney (forget what he says and look at how he's voted), Obama (his chief foreign policy adviser is Zbigniew Bryzinski), and Clinton (she sleeps with Bill, presumably, some of the time) all have DIRECT TIES to the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS and the BILDERBERG GROUP. You could look it up.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm
Hmmmmm...... All three supposed to be adversaries, and different enough that we have distinct choices, yet all are connected to the most influential and disgusting of policy making organizations? Sounds kinda fishy to me. (That's "fishy" as in the Catholic Church "fishy", or the Christian conservative movement "fishy"......)
How WOULD Jesus vote?
To 'gde.' Good point, but it seems too easy to condemn. Galloway on been one of this administration's harshest critics since, excuse the phrase, 'day one.' The fact that he supports, or cares about the US military does not automatically denote a lack of sympathy or caring for the killed and wounded Iraqis.
I walk with you in your quest to bring more light to who is the greatest sufferer of this tragedy. Having said that, I will not turn my back on the hundreds of thousands of young men and women who got conned into this war based upon their lack of education and their economic situation.
The real journey is one of education - for all - not condemnation. Hey - let's work together to make peace. Okay?
And we will stay until 'the enemy' is defeated. No one bothers to define 'the enemy.' It obviously isn't limited to Osama bin Laden.
Is is Al Qaeda? Is it the Sunni? The Shia? Iran? Who is it? McCain says we will stay until 'the enemy' is defeated.
Ah, yes, perhaps it is Pogo after all.....
Just a week ago, the Bush White House and General Petraeus were proclaiming that the dramatic decrease in violence in Iraq was evidence that the surge was succeeding, proof that our occupation policies were winning over hearts and minds.
Just yesterday, the Bush White House and General Petraeus were proclaiming that the dramatic increase in violence in Iraq was evidence that the surge was succeeding, proof that our occupation policies were getting the Maliki government's military to stand up to Sadr's militia.
Less turmoil means progress.
More turmoil means progress.
Surely if I channel surf long enough this evenening, at least one American cable network commentator will clarify these starkly contradictory messages, coming as they do from the same official US government sources, describing the same military and political situation, so close together in time.
Bill from Saginaw
elected twice.......wrong
war.......wrong
uses of troops......questionable
shame.....the blame game
Nice view from the high horse?
What to do about it.....IMPEACH AND PROSECUTE ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BROKEN WITH THE US CONSTITUTION IN
WHICHEVER BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT
Shame on us. Shame on the voters who have the ultimate responsibility. As long as 98% of the voters continue to vote for dem/repubs the killing will continue.
"They're what happens when fewer than half the eligible voters in this great experiment in democracy and freedom even care enough to vote on Election Day."
I don't vote and it's not because I don't care. It's because there is NO anti-war candidate to vote for. There is NO substantive difference between ANY of them. We do not have a respresentative government in any meaningful sense, and I most definitely DO care. But I cannot in good moral conscience elect any of these candidates to lead the country..into another senseless war.
As long as human beings are willing to take part in murder, mayhem, torture, rape, and plunder, so-called war, which is actually gangsterism on a national level, sanctioned by corrupt politicians who only represent a tiny minority of the wealthy ruling class, there will be plenty of statistics to toss around.
The way to stop "war" is not to participate in it, clear and simple. It's not rocket science. About a month and a half ago I wrote my opinion on a Common Dreams article why people join the armed forces.
If the "troops" want to come home, they must get together and coordinate a plan of action for peaceful resistance against the crooks and liars who placed them in harm's way, for imperialism, American style.
I can only speculate, but if the momentum of "The Christmas Truce of 1914" continued in the trenches with the soldiers on both sides, millions of lives would have been saved and maybe no Second World War would have occurred. Who knows?
Twenty Grand U.S. a year would be good money in Iraq. Twenty grand a year here at home would be a large improvement for tens of millions of underpaid or unemployed Americans as well.
This is especially true when most of the population of around eight million male adults in this small country are unemployed and living in abject poverty. I'd say that is a primary reason that Iraqis can't get too excited about their 'liberation' from Saddam.
This same 'liberation' effort is costing the liberators about 250 billion a year.
Here's an idea. The liberators could hire every unemployed Iraqi. Let's assume they're all unemployed or else they would gladly quit their day jobs for the more lucrative $20,000 government jobs. And don't worry about health insurance. The Iraqis can take care of that themselves. After all even Saddam had that one covered with universal health coverage fro all.
The job could be to rebuild the country that we had a large part in destroying. Employing the entire work force at twenty grand to rebuild their country would do more to restore America's good name with Iraqis than anything else. They would all be too busy then to keep fighting each other or us so we could then remove the entire military. Who would dare to risk losing such a cash cow job for the sake of some sectarian killing? Iraqi wives alone would keep their husbands in line. But the best part is it would only cost 160 billion a year. That is a huge savings over the current outlay for a system designed to destroy rather than build a country.
I know what you're thinking. What about all those poor defence contractors and oil companies who depend on mayhem for their daily bread? Companies like Blackwater, Haliburton and the Carlye Group, who have to pay massive salaries to their CEO's and dividends to their shareholders, depend on the American taxpayer to keep them going. Ah… maybe the whole idea is flawed after all.
We are all cloaked in shame. But no-we have not forgotten to the degree that the MSM has turned its back on documenting this war for the public.
We need to empower the youth with knowledge--particularly the truth instead of shielding them from the mass casualities that are happening daily. We did it during the Vietnam era and finally saw the withdrawal from the "Southeast Asian War Games".We absolutely need to get the youth involved in understanding the value in Peace and in Conflict Resolution from elementary school on up.It will be the only hope for the next generation to move beyond the idiocy that our current government perpetuates.We also need to generate a movement toward understanding the integrity of the US Constitution, and what the current administration has done to abolish this integrity around the world.Get into the schools and counter the military recruiters efforts to twist our children into violent slaves. Speak out. Speak Loud. Speak from your brain and with heart-but don't give up on turning this around!
Perhaps no one has exactly realized WHY the war seems to have slipped from importance and headlines... There is an old saying, "Out of sight, out of mind!"
The White House and Pentagon have basically been keeping reporters cooped up in the Green Zone and only allowed them out in very controlled circumstances... they are not permitted to film coffins or even the severely injured coming home, and no one in the White House or the Pentagon has been permitted to say much except Bush regarding the war.
Personally, I think there has been a deliberate and very successful effort to distract the public and the Press from the war!
The White House and Pentagon are delighted not to be in the limelight for the time being, while the candidates sling mud at each other and keep reporters busy.
Much of this "dirty politics" going on between the Clintons and Obama appears to originate with the Press leaping on everything that could possibly be interpreted as an insult and beating it to death in the daily news.
Frankly, most of the Reverend Wright uproar has been perpetuated by the Press long after the public wrote it off as no big deal... of course some of the people throwing gasoline on the fire appear to be the so-called "consultants" employed by the media, while at the same time being advisors to one of the candidates... Carville for example.
Unfortunately, most people don't get a fair accounting of who is on whose team... they just hear the scab being ripped off the wound over and over again.
Face it folks, the once vaunted "Fairness Doctrine" has been repealed, and the PRESS is at least partly responsible for the mess this country is in today because they spent much of the past 8 years being cheerleaders for the Bush team!
Our nation needs much more than just campaign reform and elimination of the lobbyist's influence... we also desperately need to reform the PRESS!
Daniel David March 27th, 2008 11:47 am
"And truthmonger above is quite right about repetition. It works and it is very much needed."
Not necessarily so. If I tell you that the sky is green and repeat it over and over again that still doesn't make it so, nor does it mean you should believe it just because I constantly repeat it.
Lobo Gris
Imagine someone running for president. He is for reducing the defense budget by at least 90%. Then using that money to improve the environment, infrastructure, cities, mass transportation, alternate energy sources, education, and creating meaningful occupations for ordinary citizens in the process. He also is commited to unplugging the special interests from government. He will transform foreign policy into one that respects other countries and works to build a better world. I find it hard to believe that any sane person would not rally behind this type of leadership. In reality someone like this would get jeered and laughed off the stage. I don't see this ever changing in this country.
Only Sadr's militia is muderous? What about the coalition?
I'd like to point out how many troops DON'T want to be there, and are only there because of legal penalties, which in my mind can easily be compared to a draft.
Keep in mind the policy of Stop Loss. Also remember all the guard and reserve troops involved. Guard/Reserve was NEVER meant for a war like this, and many people were suckered into it. I almost was. I got lucky, and decided against future benefits, tired of dealing with officers who need salutation to feel good about getting up in the mornings, and to hell with wearing a hat outside all the time. My hair looks bad enough already most days, and I hate pinning it up.
But I made this decision against the advice of friends and family. Family that now tells me they are SO thankful I didn't listen to them. Friends that never understood in the first place. Civilians. Ha.
When I made that decision, pre-BushCo, what got a small chuckle was my comment that I was afraid "Some damn president might get us into some damn war" and try and use the Guard/Reserve". My exact words. "Some damn president get us into some damn war". I'll never forget that. I was told, "but they'd never do that", by people who are quite sure they are far more knowledgable than I. My smart friends and family. By people who truly thought I was being silly. Told me so. Wasting an opportunity.
That's not what they tell me now. But it was a very near thing. In my heart of hearts, I'd like to think I'd have refused, and done whatever jail time they sentenced me to. But I'm not sure that would have been my decision. People might have tried to talk me out of that one too, and early in the war, I might have believed them. A year or so over there might have seemed like a better idea than prison time.
I might have gone. I have no idea how many soldiers are caught up in this. I know what it would have done to me. And my family. I'd have been stuck, either warzone or prison.
What I know, though, is all those wonderful people I used to work with, so many of them surely must have been caught up in this, and it makes me very, very sad. Especially since most people don't seem to have any idea. Or care. I think people really ought to care about troops being forced to serve. It's not voluntary if they were lied into a trap, and to not understand that is truly shameful on us as a nation, and individually.
As Cazador22 (March 27 - 7.08 PM) has pointed out, this article would seem to be heavily weighted against Iranian interference.
IEDs are exactly what they say on the box (if you get to the box before it explodes of course), they are improvised. They have been around for as long as gunpowder has existed.
There is no evidence of the extent of Iran's aid to insurgents, just propaganda designed to sway the public opinion against US enemy number one. There is without a doubt, help coming from across the border, but this is nothing compared to the insurgency from Saudi Arabia, and other Arab countries.
My final point concerns the focus on US casualties, with barely a mention of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who died for nothing. All of our troops had a choice, the Iraqis had none.
Most of the above is true, except for this statement - "Meantime, our volunteer troops - who comprise about one-half of 1 percent of our population of 300 million - soldier on, bearing the burden and making all the sacrifices on behalf of all the rest of us."
The soldiers are not making sacrifices on behalf of all the rest of us. Their sacrifice is on behalf of the small percentage of us who make massive profits off war and oil.
"Meantime, our volunteer troops - who comprise about one-half of 1 percent of our population of 300 million - soldier on, bearing the burden and making all the sacrifices on behalf of all the rest of us."
Even after all these disclosures if your troops are still volunteering to kill even more Iraqis, what exactly does it say about your troops ? They are essentially volunteering to kill more innocents. Cheney is right unfortunately, its a volunteer army and old Dick is gonna use them any way he sees fit. Its upto us Americans to take to the fucking streets and throw these Republicans and democrats out of office.
Oil is only a payoff for the West's efforts at providing PROXY COMBATANTS for Israel--for protecting Israel from expanding, encircling Islamic Arabism; a Jewish nation-state having supporters throughout the West willing to destroy the entirety of Western civilization for Israel's sake. That's the gut-wrenching truth of why Western democracies are sacrificing blood and treasury in the Middle East; especially the U.S., which has enough off-shore and on-land oil reserves to last 300 years at her present rate of consumption, and which reserves were PURPOSELY capped and/or not drilled because Israel's supporters poured millions of dollars into ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT groups' coffers, to work at keeping America from oil/energy independence and tied to Israel's interests in the Middle East. That's the truth you'll NEVER see nor hear reported in Western mainstream news media, because Israel's supporters control what's fit to be said or printed about why the West wars with Islamic Arabism.
An absolutely beautiful article. Well stated...well said!
"Vice President Cheney again stuck both feet in his mouth"
The little man was born with both feet in his mouth.
"a draft like the one you dodged with five deferments during the Vietnam War because, you said, you had "better things to do"?
The 58,249 Americans who were killed in the war of your youth had better things to do"
Very well said Mr. Galloway. I'd like to ask you kind folks to figure out why in any of my tours, (or anyone else's for that matter) I never saw Cheney, Bush, Wolfie, Perlman, Rummy or Podhoretz in "the war of our youth"?
Hint.....they were busy asking the Lion where he got his courage and couldn't make it.
Peaceman, finally someone with half a brain on here. I no longer have much sympathy for anyone who is dumb enough, or hard up enough for an "education/career/job" without thoroughly investigating why and what the hell their doing, who straps on a deadly weapon, blows into somebody else's country and starts pointin it at people and blowin shit up. It's war!! What did you expect them to do throw flowers at you! Until we all stop being good little robots who do what their programed/told to do, this shit is never gonna end (not that I expect it to). Wake up folks you're being used, lied to, goaded, and conned, just like you have been in almost all wars previous. how bout ya'll do like nancy reagan said, and just say NO!!!
not4prophet, there are quite a few of us here, who share these views, and make ourselves heard. What will it take before elected people in high places start to make real decisions, based on their electorate's wishes. It seems that an awful lot of people are still keen to get some action in this war. They don't have to be robots, but they do have to possess many psychopathic qualities, like being capable of killing innocent civilians. I understand that immigrants to the US can also "buy" their citizenship by joining the armed forces - is that true?
If this is the case, then it's not just Blackwater Ops and the the other contractors who are mercenaries, but a great number of the US troops.
"I understand that immigrants to the US can also "buy" their citizenship by joining the armed forces - is that true?"
This is partially true. So much for patriotism and a volunteer army. The US Marines are hired murderers ... contract killers if you may. Now you have career mercenaries or desperate immigrants who sign up for the US Army and who are willing to kill or get killed and the US gives you the 'promise' of citizenship !! They still have to go through the laborious citizenship process that can take years !! How do you say 'truly fuc~!@ed' in spanish again ?
Not4prophet, Thanks, and you're post is true to form. We have a dumbed-down public walking around like Manchurian Candidates (remember the origional movie?) or like you said, "good little robots," ready to follow orders without questioning them.
The writer missed one other commentary from another Republican that repeats what appears to be the Republican line and shows their contempt for our soldiers who are getting killed and wounded. Mitch McConnell, the leading Republican Senator, said (Dec 07, 2007)"Nobody is happy about losing lives,but remember, these are not draftees, these are fulltime professional soldiers". The friends and relatives of those soldiers who have been wounded and killed should be furious at these comments. Before the war even started in early 2003, I was writing letters to the editor that suggested that if the Army drafted every male member from every sports team in every college and university nationwide and put them in the Infantry, we would not have a war. One Congressman who was wounded in battle in Korea, proposed that the draft be reinstituted to make a point and the other members just yawned. Pelosi and Reid made a strategic error in not attempting to impeach Cheney when they could. He is the diabolical monster behind too many of the White House moves.