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The Coming Uncertain War against Iran
When Admiral William J "Fox" Fallon was chosen to replace General John Abizaid as chief of US Central Command (CENTCOM) in March 2007, many analysts didn't shy from reaching a seemingly clear-cut conclusion: the Bush administration was preparing for war with Iran and had selected the most suitable man for this job. Almost exactly a year later, as Fallon abruptly resigned over a controversial interview with Esquire magazine, we are left with a less certain analysis.
Fallon was the first man from the navy to head CENTCOM. With the US army fighting two difficult and lengthy wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and considering the highly exaggerated Iranian threat, a war with Iran was apparently inevitable, albeit one that had to be conducted differently. Echoing the year-old speculation, Arnaud de Borchgrave of UPI wrote on 14 March 2007 that an attack against Iran "would fall on the US Navy's battle carrier groups and its cruise missiles and Air Force B-2 bombers based in Diego Garcia".
Fallon is a man of immense experience, having served equally high-profiled positions in the past (he was commander of US Pacific Command from February 2005 to March 2007). The Bush administration probably saw him further as a conformist, in contrast to his predecessor Abizaid who promoted a diplomatic rather than military approach and who went as far as suggesting that the US might have to learn to live with an Iranian nuclear bomb.
Fallon's recent resignation may have seemed abrupt to many, but it was a well-orchestrated move. His interview in Esquire depicted him as highly critical of the Bush administration's policy on Iran; the magazine described him as the only thing standing between the administration and their newest war plan. Further, his resignation and "Secretary of Defense Robert Gates's handling of [it] is the greatest and most public break in the Bush team's handling of preparations for war against Iran that we are ever likely to see," wrote respected commentators and former CIA analysts Bill and Kathy Christison on 12 March. "Gates has in fact publicly associated himself with the resignation by saying it was the right thing for Fallon to do, and Gates said he had accepted the resignation without telling Bush first."
Fallon's resignation represents a bittersweet moment. On the one hand it's an indication of the continued fading enthusiasm for the militant culture espoused by the neo-conservatives. On the other, it's an ominous sign of the Bush administration's probable intentions during the last year of the president's term. Sixty-three-year-old Admiral Fallon would not have embarked on such a momentous decision after decades of service were it not for the fact that he knew a war was looming, and -- having considered the historic implications for such a war -- chose not to pull the trigger.
Unlike the political atmosphere in the US prior to the Iraq war -- shaped by fear, manipulation and demonisation -- the US political environment is now much more accustomed to war opposition, which is largely encouraged and validated by the fact that leading army brass are themselves speaking out with increasing resolve. Indeed pressure and resistance are mounting on all sides; those rooting for another war are meeting stiff resistance by those who can foresee its disastrous repercussions.
The push and pull in the coming months will probably determine the timing and level of US military adventure against Iran, or even whether such an adventure will be able to actualise (one cannot discount the possibility that as a token for Israel, the US might provide a middle way solution by intervening in Lebanon, alongside Israel, to destroy Hizbullah. Many options are on the table, and another Bush-infused crisis is still very much possible).
In an atmosphere of hyped militancy, Fallon's resignation might be viewed as a positive sign, showing that the cards are not all stacked in favour of the war party. Nonetheless, it is premature to indulge in optimism. Prior signs have indicated a serious rift among those who once believed that war is the answer to every conflict. Yet that didn't necessary hamper the war cheerleaders' efforts.
Last December, the National Intelligence Estimate -- an assessment composed by all American intelligence agencies -- concluded that Iran halted its nuclear weapons programme in 2003, and that any such programme remained frozen. Meanwhile the "bomb-first-ask-questions-later" crowd suggested that such an assessment is pure nonsense. Republican presidential nominee Senator John McCain has since then sung the tune of "bomb Iran", -- literally -- and Israel's friends continue to speak of an "existential" threat Israel faces due to Iran's "weapons" -- never mind that Israel is itself a formidable nuclear power.
According to Borchgrave, "McCain's close friend Senator Joe Lieberman... invoking clandestine Iranian explosives smuggled into Iraq, has called for retaliatory military action against Tehran. He and many others warn that Israel faces an existential crisis. One Iranian nuclear-tipped missile on Jerusalem or Tel Aviv could destroy Israel, they argue."
In fact, Lieberman, and other Israel supporters need no justification for war, neither against Iran nor any of Israel's foes in the Middle East. They have promoted conflicts on behalf of that country for many years and will likely continue doing so, until enough Americans push hard enough to restack their government's priorities.
An attack on Iran doesn't seem as certain as the war against Iraq always did. Public pressure, combined with courageous stances taken by high officials, could create the tidal wave needed to reverse seemingly determined war efforts. Americans can either allow those who continue to speak of "existential threats" and wars of a hundred years to determine and undermine the future of their country, and subsequently world security, or they can reclaim America, tend to its needy and ailing economy, and make up for the many sins committed in their name and in the name of freedom and democracy.
Ramzy Baroud is an author and editor of PalestineChronicle.com. His latest book is The Second Palestinian Intifada: A Chronicle of a People's Struggle (Pluto Press, London).
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Show AllBush is all bluster when it comes to war. He'd never illegally invade a sovereign nation. HA!
If you want a little taste of the scary truth listen to my short audio compliation.
http://nukular-waste.tripod.com/Bush-The_Bringer_of_Wars.mp3
The Pentagon is omitting Fallon from any Pentagon decisions.
Fallon's resignation (firing) is a sure sign that cool-hand dick plans on attacking Iran. And if he doesn't get it done before the Nov election, he has a mccain/lieberman ticket to do it for him. Any wonder why lieberman is touring the area on mccain's coattails? If cheney/bush killed over a million Iraqis, I wonder how many Iranians they will kill.
An overwhelming number of people supporting Obama will make it very difficult for the GOP to cheat on the vote counts, as they have in the past. Unlike Hilary or McCain, Obama has the audacity to suggest that he can talk with our enemies, that we can wage peace for a change, and leave the chicken hawks out of the picture.
Bush will bomb Iran. Bush will initiate a draft. Bush will start WW III. Don't let your kid die for the American economic elites or for Israel. Say hail no !!!
One thing being missed here is where are they going to get the manpower to carry out the actual invasion? They currently have two choices: reinstitute the draft (a non-starter as that seems to be the only lesson from history that the Neo-Cons have learned: do not fight a colonial war with conscripts) or hire a firm like Blackwater (where the lesson from history is that fighting a war over resources with a mercenary army is worse than the prior example) to do it. Either scenario is even worse than the current Iraq quagmire. If only the Democrats had been smart enough to hire their own counter-demonstrators to counter the "Brooks Brothers Riot" during the Florida re-count fiasco!
The only "existential threat" is from McCain and Lieberman starting WWIII --- if Cheney and the chimp have not already started it.
As Chavez accurately characterized Bush, "as dangerous as a monkey with a razor."
Nate, you're missing the false flag scenerio. Yes, most thinking Americans won't buy another 'Gulf of Tonkin' incident, but by then it'll be a bit late and how many yanks are really going to want to think about that? The media will be howling for blood, if congress were to vote against the draft a repuke congress would vote for it in 2009. Of course if Bush uses nukes as a first strike, other countries might decide that nuking the States would be a good idea; they may even launch by mistake if you use ICBMs against Iran, would they trust you not to use the excuse of an Iranian war not to bomb Russia? T'is a scary world we're in these last few months of a bush league presiduncy...
My first thought when Fallon resigned was that he KNEW Bush was already determined to invade or at least bomb Iran into involvement in Iraq... preferably within days of the election in November so he could pull the trigger on Directive # 51.
I would like to point out, that a large part of Bush's power comes from the support he has in the fascist neo-con owned "news" media. He would not have been able to sell this country down the river so badly without MASSIVE help from Fox News and the Moonie media.
These so-called "news" outlets have been nothing but a megaphone for Bush policy that has brought about a war based on lies, destruction of the American image through illegal arrests, imprisonment and torture... and devastation of the U.S. economy through open borders policies, unbalanced free trade policies and rape of the Treasury by "connected" companies like Halliburton and KBR.
It's kind of like that old poem you used to see in the bathroom stalls in high school:
"People who write on ****house walls...
roll their **** in little balls...
people who read those lines of wit...
EAT those little balls of ****."
Fox and others have been rolling out little balls of **** for years now and FAR too many people have swallowed them.
The manpower for an engagement with Iran comes from Israel. If there is a will they will find a way. US attack by proxy, not sure though if Israels performance in last summers Lebanon slaughter has made this less attractive an option. Also not sure if the Israelis are mental enough to think it would be a good idea to attack Iran. They did with Iraq in 82 & Syria last year in operation Orchard ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard ) with great success from their point of view. If they get twitchy and paranoid enough maybe. Even such a limited style of operation would be a dizzyingly insane escalation so maybe not. The louder you scream the faster we go...
Doom and Gloom hit the nail on the head. Israel is ruining the US at home and abroad. The sooner we get wise and divest from Israel, the better off we will all be. Ask yourself why we have dual Israeli-US citizens as Secretary of Homeland Security (Chertoff) and the US Attorney General (Mukasey)? Why did the Pentagon on Friday ruled out including Adm. Fallon as a witness before Congress when the top U.S. military and diplomatic officials in Baghdad testify next month on the Iraq problem? Could it be his knowledge about the Israel/Neocon conspiracy to start a war with Iran and Syria?
Just as we need to accurately call US activities in Iraq as an invasion/occupation, we need to call any Bush actions as an attack, not invasion.
The US has had special ops in Iran doing at least recon over the course of the last several years. The US is supporting anti-government elements in Iran.
The capability of the carrier task forces in the Persian Gulf and potentially airpower from land bases (dicier proposition) could,in short time, create widespread damage to both the military and civilian targets in Iran, killing many civilians and, BTW would be an act of war.
What would happen after that?
It waould make the current instability in the Middle East look like tranquility.
The world economy would see a barrel of oil hit $150 or more, severe international reprecussions and the US economy would tank along with severe recession/depression throughout the world.
Imagine an extensive boycott of US goods. Imagine lack of safety of shipping on the high seas. Imagine extensive atteacks on US military and civilian installations in many areas around the world.
The proper terms for Bush, Cheney and their cabal are psychopaths and madmen.
In fact, Lieberman, and other Israel supporters need no justification for war, neither against Iran nor any of Israel's foes in the Middle East. They have promoted conflicts on behalf of that country for many years and will likely continue doing so, until enough Americans push hard enough to restack their government's priorities.
You're allowed to say that here? I believe it is a step in the right direction, but it misnames the real threat. Look into Stephen E. Herbits and Ronald S. Lauder. Pay particular attention to Lauder's connections to the 07/24/01 privatization of the WTC, and his intimate ties to the IDC in Herzliya as well as to Netanyahu.
DMAC
i very much enjoyed your audio compilation. shame the music was spoiled by the drivel being spouted from the mouths of incompetents............
Three ways to spare Israel and us from WWIII:
1. Nuke Iran before they launch and hope millions of arabs and former allies will not react, nuke us all, including the oil companies and the war profiteers themselves, and that the corporate duopoly can squeeze the public for enough money to pay off would be terrorists and mercenaries before we go bankrupt.
2. Give Palestinians a fair deal, get out of the Middle East, buy the oil on the open market and subsidize green alternatives instead of Big Fossil and Big Nuke, to make us energy independent.
3. Adopt Senator Gravel's National Initiative for Democracy and let the people decide, not corporate politicians or the Israel lobby.
"In an atmosphere of hyped militancy, Fallon's resignation might be viewed as a positive sign..."
Adm Fallon to Esquire on "war" with Iran: "Get serious. These guys are ANTS. When the time comes, you CRUSH them."
75 million humans living in a country over 4,000 years old... nothing more than ANTS to be CRUSHED - WHEN, not if, but WHEN the time comes. If you're a "serious" person, that is.
("Defense Secretary Robert Gates has called CENTCOM commander Adm. William Fallon "one of the best strategic thinkers in uniform today." And awesome ant-crusher, he added.)
Obviously, the only "positive sign" we can view from Adm. Ant Crusher's resignation is that he didn't agree with the ant-crushing time-table (which would be the "when" not "if" part.)
"There is ample documentation that Iran has provided many different forms of support to Sunni extremists, including Al Qaeda as well as Shi'ia extremists in Iraq. It would require a willing suspension of disbelief to deny Iran supports Al Qaeda in Iraq." Randy Scheunemann, McCain's national security spokesman.
"Gen. David Petraeus recently made a point of saying publicly that Iran continues to train Iraqi militants. 'We call it a lethal accelerant to a situation in Iraq that already has enough challenges.'"
"Mr. Bush said he had "told people that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon." 10-18-2007
Bush said: "The problem is that we cannot trust a government that enriches uranium, which has cloaked and continues to hide activities, and which announced that it wants the atomic bomb in order to destroy people, some of which are located in the Middle East". 03-20-2008
When asked to comment on a recent poll showing that most Americans say the Iraq war is not worth it, Cheney responded with "so?"
"You don't care what the American people think?" the TV host asked.
"No," Cheney answered.
Which proves Cheney does not always lie.
Then too, when people are half crocked they are often truthful.
Mr Bush said (above) The problem is that we cannot trust a government that enriches uranium, which has cloaked and continues to hide activities, and which announced that it wants the atomic bomb in order to destroy people, some of which are located in the Middle East.
Was he talking about the good old US of America??
America will not attack Iran; because, Iran possesses nuclear weapons.
America never attacks a country that has nuclear weapons of mass destruction. Please be mindful of that.
Why don't they put Eric Prince, CEO of Blackwater as head of CENTCOM.
He clearly is "on board" with the christofascist plan to wipe Islam off the map and install Exxon Mobil as the new Jesus to lord over the middle east and all of that black gold.
It would once and for all bypass the men of honor and service to the constitution who represent the Military and our last best hope from letting the neoCON filth ignite WWIII.
I agree with skippyagogo41 that there is a reasonable chance that preparations for war on Iran are being used as cover for a nuclear attack on Russia and China. The U.S. enjoys nuclear primacy - momentarily - meaning that it can destroy the Russian and Chinese military in a single nuclear attack. The defense expenditures and programs of the last several years might suggest that such an attack has been in preparation all along.
If we were to ask George Bush, he would tell us that he himself is the most qualified person in history for making the decision to unleash a global nuclear war. I think that he will feel unfulfilled as president if he fails in carrying out his perceived responsibility.
I believe the tracks are clear. The United States government fabricated (and badly!) a military threat by an Iranian motorboat against a U.S. destroyer. Also, the U.S. has been playing aircraft carrier bully, keeping most of its assets close to Iran for a long time.
I also see a complete failure to nonviolently get rid of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The only thing propping up this guy is the stupidity of the United States government.
Against this backdrop is first, the utter war-weariness of the American people, and the degradation to near-collapse of the U.S. military. They have 50,000 disabilities, mostly concussions, post-traumatic stress disorder and limb losses, and the ranks are puffed up with high school dropouts and ex-cons now. We've seen elsewhere that soldiers going on patrol regularly hide themselves and then manufacture patrol reports all day.
Can the U.S. beat the Iranian army? Yes. Can they fight for 100 years? Oh sure, they can sell Iraqi oil to pay for the Iranian war too. That was the plan in Iraq, to have a profitable war.
And that's the rub. We can print three trillion more dollars, but nobody else will accept it anymore. From now on they all want Euros. We can only finance getting into Iran, not out. It's a one way ticket.
" We is goin' ta war with Iran, and this here letter from ma Daddy says I donts have ta go..whoopee!" - George W Bush
There are other things more important than what the whooping war party is up to-commondreams.org, along with the rest of America, focuses on what Bush & CO want them to.
What about these issues:
1. The mess our financial system is in?
2. our over reliance on foreign oil is tearing down our money system on a minute by minute basis.
3. Our over reliance on oil based modes of transportation is destroying our planet.
3. Our children need a better education system.
4. Our health care system regularly kills hundreds of thousands of people every year on the one side and on the other lavishes too much care on hundreds of thousands of others.
5. The list of topics commondreams.org is ignoring is legion. Are the Webmasters in the pay of Bush & CO?
As I see it, here are the possibilities(or at least synopses of the thinking behind them):
Conservative- The troops are stretched too thin and we are too much in debt.
We need to come home and guard our borders, AND abide by our own constitution.
Liberal/Progressive-There is no moral reason to invade; diplomacy will serve us better. We have needs at home that are unmet. We need to bring the troops home, care for those who lack, and abide by the constitution and
bill of rights.
Libertarian-We have no business interfering in the affairs of other countries. We need to let the markets sort things out.
PNAC/Psychotic-Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
I am deeply afraid of which of these sets of reasoning will predominate. If the last prevails, it will be the end of the United States as either a republic or an empire, and for combinations of the reasons enumerated by the conservatives, liberal/progressives, and libertarians.
My synopses of schools of thought are too brief, and, of course, caricatures, but in three out of four cases, they are FRIENDLY caricatures, but, mark my word, invasion or bombing of Iran will be the beginning of the end of the United States.
We are engaging in disinformation. Cheney did not say no to the question of wether or not he cared about public opinion. He said: "No. I don't believe decisions should be based on fluctuating polls." It is wrong to quote out of context and selectively. It is wrong when they do it , and wrong when we do.
lizard__I am so glad you straightened that statement of Cheney`s out. He is such a nice, considerate man that would not want any wrong to happen to any other person anywhere, even in Gitmo, so we need to realize that fact. We should all emulate Mr Cheney, even to the look on his kind face, and all of us would be much happier.
Why do the Republicans do it? Why, its mass destruction campaigns of war have been just to annoy the "liberals" and keep them out of power. The Democrats are only different in name. In such a god fearing nation of anti-communists, Wars bolster the common ego, and keep the current lot in power. The disease is in a bad stage, and a drastic cure is to find some internal means of conflict within the US of I to manage the same purpose, if the foreign adventure collapses. Plenty of dictators have managed this, with periodic purges, mass crackdowns. The homeland security and mass spying campaign, immigrant abuse and the paranoia of roundups of suspicious persons, no fly lists and mounting jail attendance, foreign prisons and torture is evidence of same. No wonder the US of I loved the Shah of Iran. As Mr Bush so amply demonstrates every day, its so easy to lie, that lies for war are the primary method of maintaining power. And the right wingers listen to their primal impulses, that say their life is enhanced by the blood of others. They are truely vampires.
~LIZARD~ you are a moron. Go out and make a snowman and talk to it. When asked if he was aware of the public opinion, that the VAST majority of Americans thought the occupation and surge etc, in Iraq was not working and was a horrible waste, Cheney replied in a cocky, so-what manner,___ "SO". ___
For your info ~Lizard~, since you are a Canadian and may not be aware, Cheney is hired to work for us and our opinions should have some effect upon his decisions. They do not however and he may have well have replied with, __ "The public can go fuck themselves." Your opinion on this is just as bad as Cheney's ~Lizard~, you incredible nut-case. Better go check on some of your patients doctor. BTW, you never have told us if you are just a poracticing MD, or a specialist, what is it?
THADDEUS STEPHENS: If you read CD daily you'd have to notice there in fact ARE articles about biotech, our economy, women's rights, indigenous rights, Green forms of energy, etc. Since CD culls the major news organs for stories fit for progressive print, they mirror the trends the MSM itself promotes. They do NOT avoid the subjects you mentioned, there may be less however in those fields.
EZEFLYER & PROVOICE: Good posts
GHAWAR: A chilling perspective (if logical).
How I wish these jingos would settle their differences within a London call box - with hand granades.
Some optimism please...I think we Americans have seen the light on these wars for empire and oil. We are going to elect Obama and with him comes diplomacy and reason. Forget mccain/lieberman-Obama will beat them in a landsslide
Those who have posted Bush is planning on attacking Russia and China really ought to reason that short sighted opinion out. The Bush Cartel may be a bunch of hair brained crazies, but they aren't stupid-crazy. They went after Iraq for a purpose and almost achieved their goals. Things just didn't work out as they had planned. Of course their planning is piss-poor at best.
They may attack Iran for the same reasons, but it is not remotely concieveable to believe they would ever nuke Russian and China and hope to live through it. They might live, but there wouldn't be anything left to live for.
And the person who wrote that Bush won't attack Iran because they have nuclear weapons is wrong also. It's been well established that Iran does not have any nuclear weapons.
Hi ~Siouxrose~ How is the new baby and grandchild doing? ___ Yes indeed, CD does publish enviromental articles, and they are the very most important issues for all of humanity, but few of the the so called "progressives" who post here, seldon ever comment on them.
There is a very important article here today on the issue of climate change, that will be in the archives tomorrow. For the past three days, there have been (10) ten total individuals who posted a comment. Another new one on climate change and water shortages was posted today, and so far four have commented.
Progessives? If we were as progerssive as we claim, we'd be far more concerned with what will happen when the Arctic methance gas starts going up into our atmosphere and be having shit fits about it. Cause when it happens, we are all gonna die and that includes our children and theirs.
So all of us "progresives", lets switch over to an Obama or Hillary article and post our brains out, making stupid comments. Push the actually serious issues into the shadows of our minds and let lie, and maybe they'll go away.
If indeed we are observing another run-up to another ill-advised military jaunt, then one should point out that there is a major difference compared to the Iraq case; the public were living in abject fear and shock after 9/11, were blindly trusting of their leaders and thus easily fooled.
Media complicity abounded. Democrats removed barriers.
Would the general public be as supine this time around, given that the majority of them have now a true measure of Bush's sincerity? I think not. It'd take near-martial law/dictatorial orders and actions from the CiC. Media complicity is not assured. Perhaps even Democrat enabling of such wars have reached their limits.
KEM PATRICK;
Hey, good to see you're still here. What I said earlier, and Gwhar(sp?) expanded on was that the Russian's might not trust you not to nuke them. Way different thing from your gov't actually planning an attack, I don't think even Cheney is crazy enough for that kind of thing. If a nuke is launched from the continental states (one of your ICBM's) there's no way to be absolutely sure that the course of htat missle would land in Iran or on Moscow, and the course of most missles would take it over the pole and accross Russian territory before it could land in Iran. The Russians would launch if they saw you firing them, they wouldn't wait to see where it would land. If you used a sub launched nuke missle, the Russians might nuke you because you'd nuked a nation on their continant, or because they'd fear not nuking a nation that was so contemptuous of human life.
What I argue is that if bush is nuts enough to launch an attack against Iran, either conventional air attacks or a nukular one, it will escalate. Just as in 1914 the mobilization of the Russian Empire's armies locked the European empires into a war they couldn't get out of.
The Bush administration-neocons' motto: Stupidity got us into this, and stupidity will get us out.
Yee haw! Bring it on! More war profiteering for the wealthy and more slavery and poverty for the working people.
Hi ~Skippy~, yeah I havn't given up on CD yet, but there are far too may articles here for a decent thread to get off on a really important subject. This one is important, but pales in comparrison to those whose subject matter concerns the end of all life on the planet.
Russia and China both have the capability to nuke us to the stone age with missiles with both land based silos and nuclear subs and Russia has excellent long rang bombers also. The Chinese subs are as good as ours now, one sufaced in the midst of one of our fleets which was conducting war game exercises in the Pacific recently and we didn't even know it was there.
So much for high-tech sonar capability. The bad thng there is, we had the technical secrets for making the best ball bearings for sub's silent running and we gave that technology to China, so they could produce them for us at less cost. ___Un-Bee-Leavable.
Yep, ~Skip~ an accidental world war three could ignite, but that too is not likely, possible but not likely. If we attack Iran it won't be with long range ICBM's. Whatever the method, it will be the stupidest thing since attacking Iran and far more costly. If any think $4 bucks a gallon for gas and a buck a pound for wheat is high, wait till some idiot bombs Iran. Oil will go to $300 a barrel or more overnight, or eight to ten bucks a gallon for us. The result,___ DEPRESSION. And Katy, "bar the door" when that hits.
We may have to attack Iran, if someone reports they saw Osama bin Laden there.
Of course come to think of it, we attacked Iraq because Osama bin Laden was in Afganistan.
My guess, for what it's worth, is that we're not looking at a plan to attack Iran. What we're looking at is a poker game, designed to bluff the American people into thinking that we might attack Iran, so we'll back off from impeaching Cheney and Bush. I think that's what everything is about now: Cheney and Bush trying to distract us from impeaching them.
As wacky as Cheney and Bush are, they're not stupid (well, at least Cheney isn't), and they know damn well what would happen if they attacked Iran, which would be unimaginable chaos. Plus we couldn't win, mostly because we're out of money, and they both know it.
But if they can get us to believe that they might do something as crazy as attack Iran if we try to impeach either of them, we might not do so, in the interests of peace. And they'll both get off scot-free, leaving the Iraq war mess for the democrats to clean up, which is a very difficult job, so difficult that the public will lose faith in the democrats when they fail, which is probable, leaving the door wide open for a republican resurgence in 2012.
Remember last election when the admin. raised a hypothetical about whether the election could be suspended in an "emergency?" I fear this may have been a trial balloon to get the sheep ready for the next election. Bush Co. will bomb Iran thus creating the emergency he requires to suspend the election and stay in office indefinitly. They have already set the precident that the commander-in-chief can do anything he deems necessary (ANYTHING!) to "protect" the American people;he claims to be above the law and no one has called him on it. I pray I'm wrong but Dick says he doesn't care what the people think. If it looks like the dems will take over the white house there may well be no election...otherwise these low dogs would be subject to war crimes charges (maybe) and I doubt they will let that happen.
Here is a link to a show from one of Canada's left leaning tv stations
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/lies/video.html
would you ever see this on American MSM ?
the neocons and the MIC are pulling the same crap with Iran now
btw it is pronouced ear ron not eye ran...i would be shot if i called america
ay merica
Another good documentary that recently aired on the CBC was "No End in Sight". It revealed in chilling, and depressing, detail the callousness, ignorance and stupidity that has marked the entire operation in Iraq. It's heartbreaking. This is the website:
http://www.noendinsightmovie.com/
startle cheney
www.startlecheney.org
RATIONALITY!!!
YES!
Please! Put impeachment back on the table.
Have you got your wide-screen television yet? How you gonna see Iran burn if you haven't got a big, big screen. Bill O'Rielly is waiting to bring you a blow by blow, factual account and George will give updates once a day and tell you about how he's bringing freedom and democracy to the world.
Yes, roll-up, roll-up, get in pizza and beer and let the imperial show commence!
www.dangerouscreation.com
"We may have to attack Iran, if someone reports they saw Osama bin Laden there.
Of course come to think of it, we attacked Iraq because Osama bin Laden was in Afganistan."
Kem, we'll attack Iran because Osama bin Laden is in Pakistan.
The War Party
KEM PATRICK
but think about it kem.......if the u.s. nukes china it will get rid of their debt. btw, there are more posts now on the 'climate change' issues.