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Bush The Torturer, The Tyrant, The Disgrace
On Saturday, Mr. Bush vetoed a bill that would have outlawed the CIA's use of torture in interrogations (a bill, it should be noted, John McCain, alleged opponent of torture, voted against). He had the temerity, our Dear Leader, to begin his official endorsement of torture in his radio address this morning with these words: "Good morning." Good for him and his kind of delusional sadists, maybe. Not so good for this country, whose reputation today takes one more plunk toward the abyss of rogue and less than ordinary nations. Not so good for the rest of the world, either, whose nations have been disbelievingly howling, in Babels of translations, that most American of plaints: "Say it ain't so." This spring training for terrorist-interrogators (for torture is terrorism at its distilled worst), it very much is so. The United States is officially, proudly, the land of torturers. It's true that the United States has been at this for years. But the difference here is not only that the president is endorsing torture, but that he's doing it so openly and willfully. It isn't arrogance anymore. It isn't even hubris. Arrogance and hubris suggest that at least some awareness that public perceptions still matter. In Bush's mind, perceptions are for the birds. This is pure tyranny. His statement embracing torture, a study in mendacity, is worth a line-by-line look.
"This week," he began, "I addressed the Department of Homeland Security on its fifth anniversary and thanked the men and women who work tirelessly to keep us safe." Really? As of last May 1, Homeland Security, the Washington Post reported, "had 138 vacancies among its top 575 positions, with the greatest voids reported in its policy, legal and intelligence sections, as well as in immigration agencies, the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Coast Guard." It got so bad that a panicky report was sent to the House committee overseeing the department-the department led, as we unfortunately know, by the intrepidly dismal Michael Chertoff, who captained the agency through its finest hour: its spectatorship of Hurricane Katrina's aftermath.
"Because the danger remains," Bush continued, "we need to ensure our intelligence officials have all the tools they need to stop the terrorists." All the tools. Not the necessary tools, but all the tools. The most effective way not to worry about crossing the line into the dark side is not to have a line at all. For the Dear leader there is no question of nuance, of the difference between right and wrong. It is all right as long as he declares it so. By all means necessary (although I hate to soil Malcolm's fine line, given its context, with the Dear Leader's criminal intent). But by that reasoning, nuking Kandahar would be justified. Aren't nuclear weapons also tools in the fight against "terrorism"? One day, the question may well be answered. Especially if the country insists on electing John McCain (and liberals who personally despise the black one or the bitch, as their prejudices couch them, insist on helping along the reactionaries).
Where Bush Lies Like a Nixonian Sweat Bead
"The bill Congress sent me would take away one of the most valuable tools in the war on terror -- the CIA program to detain and question key terrorist leaders and operatives." The bill, of course, does no such thing. It does not take away the CIA's right to detain anyone. It does not take away the CIA's right to question anyone. It only forbids the CIA to employ waterboarding and other forms of torture or degrading and dehumanizing treatment of inmates-inmates, we should always, always remember, who aren't terrorists, but alleged terrorists. Until they are proven so, it is only their incarcerators who are the demonstrably proven terrorists.
Bush then lists a series of supposed terrorist attacks the interrogations foiled. We have to trust him on that one, as several of them have never been mentioned before. Trusting Bush at this point, of course, is an exercise best left to the pathologically cretinous. One example from the plots Bush does mention-the supposed attack on the Library Tower in Los Angeles. It's an old story, peddled by his administration since 2002. But when even the Voice of America, which is barely two radio waves removed from Radio White House, gives credence to doubts about the Dear Leader's story, it's time to give his fictions a chance to get sold as the latest memoir. "Micheal Scheuer, who was the leading al-Qaida expert in the CIA's counter-terrorism center in 2002," VOA reported in 2006, "says he is not aware of any such serious threat against the West Coast in 2002. As the man in the CIA who knew more about Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida than perhaps any other agency officer, he says it is unlikely that he would not have been kept informed on such a plot. "It could be that it was very closely held, but I think that's unlikely," he said. "It could be just a function of my failing memory. But this doesn't sound like anything that I would recall as a major threat, or as a major success in stopping it.'"
Brutality's Euphemisms
Bush in his radio address then moves on to euphemizing torture as "specialized interrogation procedures to question a small number of the most dangerous terrorists under careful supervision." It's a little disingenuous for the man who turned extraordinary renditions into a secret competitor of Disney's Vacation Club, the man who replaced the Soviet Union's gulags with a secret gulag of his own (using, cleverly, the Soviet Union's old prisons in some cases, as in Poland and Romania), the man under whose careful supervision the likes of Khaled el Masri and Maher Arar were wrongly imprisoned, tortured in Afghanistan and Syria, and released without apologies long after the CIA knew they had the wrong men-it's a little disingenuous for that man now to claim "careful supervision" in torture chambers.
And to characterize torture as "these safe and lawful techniques." Safe? When, by 2006, more than 100 individuals in American detention had been murdered by their captors? Lawful, when this very veto the Dear Leader is bandying about is an attempt to evade the law? But here's his reasoning: limiting the CIA to interrogation techniques allowed only by the Army field manual would be wrong because the field manual deals with soldiers. The CIA deals with terrorists. Just as Bush on March 8 officially placed the United States as a champion of torture, Bush on this day also placed the United States as a champion of separating the race between legitimate human beings and sub-human creatures-"hardened terrorists." The circular argument gives the appearance of perfect logic-if you're willing to accept the notion that some human beings are not quite human beings. And isn't that the notion once peddled in the United States about blacks-excuse me, about niggers? Isn't that the notion peddled about Indians, at least while there were enough of them around that a distinction mattered? Isn't that the kind of distinction some conservatives attempted to write into the Constitution with their prohibition of "oriental" immigrants at the turn of the last century?
Some things don't change. Once a bigoted nation, always a bigoted nation. But this goes beyond bigotry. Bush is projecting an interpretation of human beings that links up with the sort of distinctions Nazi and apartheid regimes were known for, when they, too, facilitated the torture and murder of "enemies" by dehumanizing them in the eyes of the public. This is no different. He may be speaking the language of Anglo-Saxon civilization. He may be doing so from the august rooms of the White House. What he's saying makes him no different in these regards than the tyrants of the 20 th century. His rhetoric is another chain-link to his actions: he dehumanizes in words in order to dehumanize in deeds.
Last month Michelle Obama was criticized for saying that finally, she can be proud of the United States, the implication being that she hadn't been proud of it before Barack Obama's hopeful run. She may want to rethink her newfound pride. There's nothing to be proud of when the president reduces this country to rank criminality while calling it, of all things, a "higher responsibility" that is "keeping America safe." No one should envy the next Americans to be taken prisoner by rogue nations and terrorists, now that we're no better than either.
Pierre Tristam is a News-Journal editorial writer. Reach him at ptristam@att.net or through his personal Web site at www.pierretristam.com .
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Show AllCatch up on your history, folks:
http://www.getunderground.com/underground/features/PrintReady.cfm?Article_ID=2244
http://www.getunderground.com/underground/features/PrintReady.cfm?Article_ID=2247
All our President can do is lie, cheat, torture, and steal.
Not exactly leading through example.
Pierre Tristam, one error: only one of the three candidates is opposed to torture, Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton reserves the right to torture, as does McCain. In fact, it's getting harder and harder to tell them apart, being that she considers us safer with McCain as president than with Obama as president.
kathyodat
Dubya, Cheney, & Co. have finally cemented their legacy as the worst regime to occupy the White House. With this veto, the Crawford, Texas village idiot has managed to sink the office of US president to a level where solid waste comes to rest in a sewage tank.
Well said Pierre. How is it that this has been known by so many for so many years? That George W Bush is a monster is not in doubt. How many more years before the USA citizens start to march on their newspaper, radio and television offices demanding a Free Press?
How many more years before this USA President has his date with the hangman?
For Crimes Against Humanity he and his neo-con advisors should all be hung, just like Saddam Hussein.
1776Freedom1776, you should know that Pierre Tristam is not French, by either citizenship or ethnicity. From his web site: "I was born and raised in Lebanon, schooled in the United States, salaried in journalism, and now write editorials and a weekly column for the Daytona Beach News-Journal in Florida, making me one of the 0.3 Arab-Americans with a column in the mainstream American press."
If only my tears could wash away this shame would my liberation be worth such pain.
Re: 1776Freedom1776 "Hey Frenchie I'm watching you."
Ok, first of all "Freedom1776", your grasp of history is obviously pathetic. Who was our ally in 1776 that was crucial to our winning our independence? FRANCE you bloody moron! Second, if you think that issuing threats to journalists will stop free-thinking people from writing, or reading, the truth then you are even dumber than your comments convey. In order to have freedom, we must think for ourselves, and question the world around us. Especially when it come to an issue which is as important as "does the US torture people?". You are not a patriot. You are a fascist. Rarely do I comment on other people's comments, but you are exactly what's wrong with our country. There are many of us, willing to defend the right of free speech, by force if necessary, and there are very few of you cowards. So, you know what? I'M WATCHING YOU!!!
D.C. hasn't atoned for Abu Ghraib. The complete lack of interest in changing our national image speaks more loudly that torture, secret prisons, sexual humiliation, etc.
Perhaps Bush & Co. are sadists, and they need someone to take it out on?
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BeForKids, you are wrong.
Hillary Clinton is strictly and clearly against torture:
Question: Let's say we were to capture the #3 man in Al Qaida, and we know there's a bomb about to go off, and we have 3 days, and we know this guy knows where it is. Should there be a presidential exception to allow torture in that kind of situation?
Answer: As a matter of policy it cannot be American policy, period. There is very little evidence that it works. Now, there are a lot of other things that we need to be doing that I wish we were: better intelligence; working to have more allies. But these hypotheticals are very dangerous because they open a great big hole in what should be an attitude that our country and our president takes toward the appropriate treatment of everyone. And I think it's dangerous to go down this path.
Source: 2007 Democratic primary debate at Dartmouth College, September 6, 2007
An appropiate symbol for America would be the Staue of Liberty with her head in a black hood.
Wow "1776Freedom", I'm impressed. A comment that isn't a threat!...Nicely done. Next step, go out and research the world so that you can extract your head from where it currently is. You are on the right track, though! When you decide to join the real patriots in this country, we can work together to return our freedom. I'll be here, waiting, and hoping you come around.
1776: It isn't YOUR country, it belongs to all of us. It isn't demonization to speak the truth. Your patriotism isn't patriotism, it is trite emotion born from shallow thinking. Patriotism is defending the constitution, that is the reason for the oath. You have shown a lack of respect for the constitution, therefore your handle of 1776 is undeserved. Taking into account your previous posts, you seem to me to be a traitor to the principles of 1776.
1776: It is ok if you call him YOUR president, he certainly isn't mine. He is a criminal and belongs in prison.
My thanks to all those above who know a bogus 1776 when they see one.
"...and liberals who personally despise the black one or the bitch, as their prejudices couch them, insist on helping along the reactionaries."
Well. Having found myself unequivocally listed under the rubrick laid out by the prior Tristam article referenced here, exposed as either a sexist or a racist (take your pick) if I don't get enthusiastic about the candidacies of either Clinton or Obama (take your pick) I suppose I had better respond.
The brains of some (maybe most) people are really little rolltop desks with pigeonhole compartments where ideas are filed and considered according to the closest fit. If an idea does not fit the pigeonhole, it goes automatically to the trash where nonsense is kept. Some desks (George Bush's for example) have very few pigeonholes, which is why everything to him is black or white, good or evil. One expects more nuance from a major contributor to CD. Is he really, in the middle of an otherwise typical anti-torture rant, calling me a racist? A sexist? According to this incredibly simplistic, logically inverted bit of reasoning, it was Nader liberals (not the 59 million dumb people who twice voted for Bush) who are responsible for America's moral collapse. Moreover, the author claims, we grumpy liberals have now degenerated into outright bigots, dedicated to helping our neocon buddies turn the world into a torture chamber. If we aren't two party zombies, we must be bigots, right?
I'll put that part of Mr. Tristam's article into my own rolltop desk,, in the compartment I call "fuck you too, pal."
"Freedom"1776...Marxist thugs and would be dictators? What is your point? Was Thomas Jefferson a Marxist? Do you even know what you are talking about? My children deserve a better future than an adminstration (that you support) that tortures people. That was the original issue, right? So, if you are so in favor of torture, I'm sure you wouldn't mind being waterboarded yourself. Is this the future that you want for our children? Are you willing to be as evil as our enemies? What happened to the America that was a example of hope and freedom? We should be as brave as our founding fathers. Or are you really that scared?
This takes me back to the days of Nixon. There were adhesive tags one could put in toilet bowls and urinals that said, "Richard M. Nixon Memorial Toilet."
A contest was held for a Nixon Memorial. The winner, if memory serves, was Little Lombard, "The Crookedest Street in the World" was named "Nixon Way." One of the poems submitted was kind of catchy.
"The best has been done, so let us not spoil it,
The Richard M. Nixon Memorial Toilet.
"The next stop along for the sewage dank
Is the Richard M. Nixon effluent tank.
"If that seems too messy then I'll play my trump
The Richard M. Nixon Memorial Dump.
"But the final solution, one thought of often,
The Richard M. Nixon Memorial Coffin."
Times don't seem to change much more than the dates on a calendar, do they?
Ugh. I'm so tired of the "ticking time bomb" example, which has never happened in real life in all of recorded history.
1776: you're sounding like the "mother of the accused"... why would you have a problem with anyone "demonizing your country and president" if the criticisms are true? As a fed-up American citizen, I concur with the demonization of our horrific government actions and our criminal president. If there was justice in the world, half the administration would be facing a war crimes tribunal. Your "1776" moniker is a bit of an insult to the memory of the founding fathers who would be as outraged with the current "leadership" in Washington as I am.
PS, visit www.freedetainees.org, and give Linda and Romi a "tip". They are doing a FANTASTIC JOB. Put faces on the tortured individuals. That's what "they" fear.
The line was supposed to read "ADD this valuable resources to the footers on your emails".
Nixon was the butt of the first dirty joke I heard (times were tamer back then) :
"Don't change dicks in the middle of a screw, Vote for Nixon in '72 !"
President Bush said "We do not torture." Then he says we do but that's okay. He's a liar. In fact, judging from his performance in spying on his citizens ("wire taps require a warrant"), his foreign policy, ("Iraq has WMD."), his past with cocaine and alcohol, health care, taking care of the armed forces, firing judges, hiring judges, etc. he's a pathological liar. Which is just what the Republicans need as a mindless mouthpiece. He's not a demon. He's scum.
We all do it. Human culture itself is lens through which to view and interpret reality, then when events predicted by the model we have created occur we say "See, that proves it". It proves nothing of course.
But this hair-brained neocon crowd apparently believes that their lens CREATES reality. The assumptions they would have to believe if we take them seriously include:
The poor are not fully human
Patriotism is a religion to which everyone is obliged to subscribe
Corporations serve the public interest
Being a member of the working poor is a chosen lifestyle
Only the rich have rights
The poor exist to serve the rich
The rich are rich because they deserve to be rich
I cannot escape the ideas in my head as to why this pathologically cretinous presidential appointee insists upon, not only torturing, but, also, declaring publicly and as a matter of policy, his desire to do so.
It has been repeated often enough by his own intelligence personnel that torture is not effective, that people will say anything to avoid or end torture, thus, rendering any "information" obtained in this manner quite useless.
It is also accepted amongst the same personnel that our soldiers and our allies' soldiers will pay the brunt of restitution for our indiscretions in the form of beheadings, or other new and improved forms of torture.
Further, it has been quite obvious over the last 7 torturous years and remains so, that terrorism is increasing as opposed to decreasing. The United States and most other locales throughout the world are less safe now than before W's war on his favorite tactic.
So, my final conclusion can only be this...
This war on terrorism has been so profitable, so financially un-verifiable and so much unabashed authoritarian, bigoted, genocidal fun, that the best way to perpetuate this flow of blood and money is to publicly, officially, and matter of factly, provoke those already to the brink of madness into further attacks.
And in the trifecta spirit of this intellectual midget we call our pRESIDENT, he can simultaneously create more enemies, and fewer checks and balances, for the next breed of elitists to profit from.
Impeachment is clearly an inadequate form of consequence for this mis-administration. Assasination would be doing W a favor. I can only hope, that some day, somewhere, this little moron and his coaches and cheerleaders, will meet justice in the form of a lifetime imprisonment, complete with early and often, exertion of fellow inmates' wills, repeatedly, over and over, in a manner that would not damage organs or cause death...
Support our troops, insist on peace!
BeForKids, Obama is fully supportive of the Israeli elite's war machine and so he does of course support torture and would continue to fund it. Besides which Obama would totally allow US direct torture to continue anyway. They all would.
I felt safe before Bush was appointed. Not so since.
You mean terrorism, or at least anxiety, comes in forms other than al quida doing a tower? Like economic terrorism,
environmental terrorism, health care terrorism? When the avowed goal of Osama in '02 was to bankrupt the US, and this from a cave in Tora Bora, and then it happened, well either he's the Second Coming or he had inside help. Every president whose poll ratings were as low as Bush's had the dignity to at least act morose. Not Bush. He's tap dancing on the stairs to the White House. Torture? Of course, we're all being tortured and letting it happen as if by silence we approved. Bush just speaks for the American people.
George W. Bush is the best recruiter Al-Qaeda has ever had.
Pierre Tristam, you are wrong:
Now that torture has become the official policy of the United States (it has long been practiced by the CIA, US military and in many prisons and jails in the US), WE ARE ALL COMPLICIT.
This presidential act has been legally executed and acquiesced to by the United States Congress which was elected by the citizens of the United States in (relatively) free, if not fair, elections.
Furthermore, the citizens of the United States have freely chosen to not exercise our legal rights to take to the streets and protest this vile, inhumane (and very human) violation of: US law, the US Consitution and multiple international laws, many religious traditions and basic human decency.
We have yawned away our very souls and the right to be called human beings. As a people,we have become base wild animals wallowing in our own violence, filth and ignorance.
It is a cheap shot to lay this off on Bush, one of the worst among us. The best among us have miserably failed to overcome the silence of the vast majority and so we all are damned and doomed, as we put the official US stamp on the practice of torture. It's on all of us, every last one.
TJ -- Yes, abundantly so it IS "on all of us, every last one."
Which is a great place for positive change to start from.
Namaste
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Baby Bush has made this country morally bankrupt as well. BinLadin has won. Can't we please go home now?
There's a new flag flying over the White House that I think you guys should know about.
http://www.americanpirate.com/index_003.html
Actually, I probably just didn't notice it until now...
Oh well.
BobK, you're right. At present, she's against it. Below is an excerpt of a NY Daily News story of her flipflopping on this and other issues. Although she "changed" her mind in April she saw no reason to mention it until after the below noted poll came out. Of course she could change her mind again if it became convenient, since convenience seems to be her guiding light.
"Clinton (D-N.Y.) came out against all torture - "period" - in Wednesday's Democratic debate after previously telling the Daily News last October it would be okay to torture a terrorist to foil "something imminent."
Clinton's transformation on torture now aligns her perfectly with the voters she's trying to woo. A Zogby International poll this month found 64% of Americans oppose the interrogation tactic - and an earlier ABC poll showed more than 70% of Democrats are against it.
Clinton aides said she changed her mind after meeting in April with a group of retired three- and four-star generals.
But her epiphany appears to be incomplete. Clinton still hasn't signed a pledge with a group called the American Freedom Campaign that requested presidential candidates oppose all torture."
andrewr, Obama has said he is unequivocally opposed to torture and completely supports the Geneva Conventions. He has never swerved from that position, unlike Hillary who is like a drunk driver on positions. Clinton is also the only Democratic candidate who has refused to sign the American Freedom pledge against torture, although she did write a letter in support. But that's not a commitment. She refuses to commit. Regarding Israel, get real. The political reality is that any presidential candidate that doesn't support Israel is DOA. Hopefully as president, he could produce some behavior changes there on both sides.
kathyodat
His former Harvard Business School professor recalls George W. Bush not just as a terrible student but as spoiled, loutish and a pathological liar.
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi
USA/Gallop: "Among people who identify themselves as Republican or leaning Republican, Bush's approval rating is 76%."
That's approximately 41 MILLION fellow Americans who are pro-torture, (not to mention pro-BushFascism in all it's many forms.)
41 Million MiniBush's. How f**king scary is that!!!
Humiliating. It is humiliating to have that vulgar little sadist in the White House, the Soiled House. What a painful wound our country has inflicted on itself. We are cursed.
braithwa, I remember that story. It was totally ignored at the time, which was too bad, because it showed how thoroughly Bush despised people not of the elite class. His statements on the subject, if publicized, would have killed his candidacy. Of course, that's why the media ignored it. If his opponent had ever said those things, it would have made banner headlines. But that's what you get when the corporations own the media. Thank you Bill. By the way, isn't Hillary claiming that she was essentially a copresident with Bill? Oh, I forgot, only about the good stuff. She was opposed to all the bad stuff, even if she was keeping her mouth shut. Except there's a little problem with NAFTA, she spent too much time forgetting to keep her mouth shut, and forgetting she really wasn't against it either. What a liar. I don't understand why so many people are so blind about her. It's like watching George Bush all over again, fooling the voters.
kathyodat
When Armanijhad was interviewed during his visit, after being told that he was an evil dictator, was asked to say some good things about GW Bush. Armanjhad struggled with this one, but then came up with something like "Perhaps he shows kindness or wisdom in his home life". I truly doubt it. I would have real trouble trying to answer the question myself.
Now, frank, that's like saying all the Clinton supporters favor cluster bombs because she does. Although it's true a majority of Republicans do support torture, but not all do. does that go for Hillary Democrats and landmines and cluster bombs as well?
kathyodat
We all elected the ones we asked to stop the the illegal chicaneries of this administration.
We did not hold them to their rhetoric.
Ergo, we really are to blame.
How does it feel to be judge, jury and executioner?
NOTHING stopped Vietnam till the kids put their bodies literally in the doorways of business. Think this will be any different? It will be different---it will be longer, harder, bloodier, and more costly every way. That's how denial works. As the I Ching says, if you try to solve a problem without going to the root of it, you only create a bigger and worse mess. http://ancientgreece-earlyamerica.com
Bush has finally managed to smear the line between his own actions and those of the late Saddam Hussein. I wish someone would put together a numerical listing of (a) number of innocent persons killed, (b) persons tortured through either indirect or direct authorization by each of these psychopaths. Nevermind the number of troops killed. Even without the numbers, their behavior is qualitatively the same. So does not Bush deserve the same noose that found Hussein?
For this savage, cretin president to still be in the White House has taken an enormous amount of winking-and-blinking cooperation or just plain going along for one's own self-interests by the majority of those who represent The People of the United States.
As many have said on this Board already, why aren't we in the streets? Well, with what's just around the corner with the economic mess that the current administration and the majority of the go-alongs in both Houses of Congress have been cultivating right along, a good number of us may find ourselves in the streets whether we like it or not ... and likely hungry.
More of the same, if we have an election at all, seems ahead.
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AND ... so much for Laissez Faire Capitalism, eh? AYN RAND? ATLAS has SHRUGGED big time, and the world itself is falling, falling, falling into a deep, dark black hole.
laissez faire: an economic doctrine that opposes government regulation of or interference in matters of commerce. Well, we sure have that.
Evidently, however, the definition of laissez faire has been broadened to ANYTHING GOES! within the Democratic form of government in the U.S., including providing tacit license to leaders totally out of control and totally impervious to other peoples' pain and suffering, and who, in fact, seem to get off on causing those conditions. OH, TORTURE ... OH, BOY!!!!!!
That's called INSANITY folks. Why aren't we in the streets ... along with every member of Congress and the candidates for the presidency?
Think about it.
Dear Pierre Tristam,
I was delighted to read your editorial speaking to one of the "killers" that occupies the White House. I find it difficult to put the name in my mouth of this fool I so loathe into speech by giving it a name. I have over this time, that he has occupied the highest position in the land, thought deeply about the issues that surround the elevation of this sub-human to lead this country.
The question is, as it always becomes, at least for some people here in this country, has to do with the dynamic of the American people themselves. What has become of the mentality of Americans that borders nihilism, that reflects its religious belief system that would put this man, the self appointed messenger of God, to lead a so-called law abiding nation that calls itself the bastion of Democracy?
The USA is in shambles of its place as a nation of laws but the question of laws themselves could not be better understood when under scrutiny, from the time the Catholic Church rose to power with Constantine, laws represented the religious ruling class. All ancient books were burned as they were in Germany during Kristal Nacht. All those in opposition to the law, for example the ancient philosophers, the Helenes, found there works burned and those philosophers who opposed the church were burned with them.
From the year 350,AD and before as the Church rose to power it destroyed all science, great thinking and knowledge forcing it underground. All questioning of of the existing order was exterminated ignorance was elevated to extreme power and those who were most venerated were the evil and the ignorant. This is a remarkable parallel to the experience of the present with the Bush/ Cheney regime of I absolute power. All science is questioned and blocked like Stem Cell research,and the science of climate change and global warming obfuscated put on hold these critical eight years of the fools administration all programs such as "no child left behind", the clean air act" is euphemistic to actually mean their polar opposite. So many programs with this regime are based in fear and dedicated to hate torture, anti life, and the end to global rational human dialogue.
One of the most horrible example of this was seen recently where in a meeting of Lawyers a show of hands were asked for as to which candidate was most acceptable for the presidency. Eighty percent of thos present voted for McCaine with the majority of the reamining largely for Clinton and a smattering for Obama. We see here that the makers of the law vote for continued oppression, repression, status quo and death. They abdicate and distort human values of health, well being, fairness, truth and peacefulness in support of evil.
The American people put the present regime in power and reelected them to office with chicanery, illegal methods, voter fraud, and religious persuasion that were employed. Nothing too much has changed since Constantine. George Bush will not be impeached because the Congress that is responsible for truth and law in the USA is a sham. The politics of hope go wanting as the lies and hatred of the power hungry, entrenched politicians of the past are challenged by a black man who speaks for truth decency and change.
We see clearly that the values of the American people could not be better open to scrutiny in the candidates running for president. We know why the USA has laid waste a land that did not harbor terrorists, tortures all those who it suspects and why the world is revolted by a people that espouse the rule of law.
Mr. Tristan, no wonder why things are as they are and will continue in the USA. At least half of Amererica is reflected by the values of W. It is necessary of there to be a change in Congress as well as the presidency if a new USA is to emerge. The young people know this hence the support for Obama. If america is to be accepted in the world, if Americans are to be respected once again than a change in the values of Americans are necessary .
Maybe Bush should have experienced waterboarding to see if it was torture or not before making it sound like he was doing us all a favor.
This man has no conscience whatsoever. How he was elected the second time based on his miserable performance is beyond me.
What did you all expect from a kid who liked to blow up frogs for fun?
Bring back the guillotine. Please? I'm thinking it would be a great way to start paying down on the national debt. You could sell tickets!
A bit of time spent at the folowing link will explain a lot about what we see in this country. http://ponerology.com/ We have a confluence of influence of some who have no concern for the welfare of this country(or perhaps any other), the influence of the MIC, and the opportunism of of psychopaths. All together, the perfect storm for mass destruction on a world scale. If you visit the site given above, click on any or all of the subjects in the column at the left side of the page. There is a lot here, but very worthwhile reading.
A basic overview of the subject of psychopathy is found at http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm Without information in this piece, it is impossible to comprehend what has happened in this country. With it---- all pretty well falls into place.
Hi frank. The unbelievable poverty of most human souls, the inhuman dearth of noble motives, The incredible capacity of humanity to be indifferent to suffering, even when a lot of suffering by others yields even a little comfort for self---it's part of the human condition.
The green lawns, swimming pools, and shopping sprees for Israelis who know their Palestinian brothers get a few hours of water per week and struggle to survive is no different from South Africa during apartheid or the US during Jim Crow, or even my buying a high quality tee shirt for three dollars.
"It's the poor who pay for everything." And nobody is willing to sacrifice even a little of their own comfort for change. I recently paid eight dollars for a heavy coat. I knew the human cost that had to be born by somebody I probably would never meet. I did it anyway. But I never put on that coat without thinking about it.
Slavery is dehumanizing to the slave and the master. It always will be as long as people like me believe that the present system is in their own best interest---or at least act as if they do.
"Make no mistake: no one is attracted so strongly by anything as by what he considers his own good"---Epictetus
Somebody should lead us little children out of this darkness. "Give us peace".
Neitzsche,
Please take a look at the second link in the piece that preceeds yours- It mwii either give you some piece or anger you---or perhaps, both. Contrary to popular belief, most people are kind--- but some special ones create hell for all the others.Peace
The only way you can deal with people like W is to be ruthless to them. With the Republicans you especially have to me cold, calculating, and brutal. If you are the same way with the Democrats, it would not hurt. Clearly they do not give a s##t about us, so why should we care about them? Ignore them. They are irrelevant and treat them as such.