Two Vermont Towns OK Bush & Cheney Indictments
BRATTLEBORO - Voters in two southern Vermont towns passed articles Tuesday calling for the indictment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney for violating the Constitution.
More symbolic than substantive, the items sought to have police arrest Bush and Cheney if they ever visit Brattleboro or nearby Marlboro or to extradite them for prosecution elsewhere - if they're not impeached first.
In Brattleboro, the vote was 2,012 for and 1,795 against. In Marlboro, it was 43 to 25, with three abstentions.
"I hope the one thing that people take from this is 'Hey, it can be done,"' said Kurt Daims, 54, who organized the petition drive that led to the Brattleboro vote.
He said he hopes Bush and Cheney are never arrested here; he wants them impeached before that could happen.
"I voted in favor because I think Bush and Cheney have committed high crimes and misdemeanors," said Brattleboro resident Ellen Schwarz.
"I think it's outside the scope of town government," countered Jeff Morris, who voted against the indictment. "When history writes George Bush's story, he will be held in high regard for going into Iraq."
The Marlboro item was introduced from the floor under "other
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business," but it isn't binding since it didn't appear on the warning for the meeting, according to Town Clerk Nora Wilson.
"It was emotional. There were heartfelt speeches on both sides," Wilson said.
Since it's non-binding, the Marlboro Select Board could act on it at a later date, but they're not required to, according to Wilson.
In Brattleboro, a steady stream of voters paraded into the Brattleboro Union High School gym to cast their ballots on a day when school board elections and Vermont's presidential primary were also on the slate.
Some saw the measure as purely symbolic.
"It really carries no weight," said Brattleboro Town Clerk Annette Cappy. "Our town attorney has no legal authority to draw up any papers to allow our police officers to do so, but the gentleman who initiated the petition, got the signatures, wanted it on the ballot to make a statement."
The vote and presidential primary came on Town Meeting Day, the day when voters in most Vermont cities and towns gather to debate and vote in an annual exercise of direct democracy.
"It's the opportunity for this small community to set a precedent and an example for the United States," said Brattleboro resident Gerry Benjamin. "A little means a lot."
Organizers of the indictment campaign were frustrated that the printed ballot ended up relegating the Bush-Cheney indictment article to the back side, which they said would cause some people to miss it.
The 8-by-14-inch yellow cardboard ballot listed the offices and candidates in the local election on one side, and at the bottom in block letters "Turn Ballot Over and Continue Voting."
The article read: "Shall the Selectboard instruct the Town Attorney to draft indictments against President Bush and Vice President Cheney for crimes against our Constitution, and publish said indictments for consideration by other authorities and shall it be the law of the Town of Brattleboro that the Brattleboro Police, pursuant to the above-mentioned indictments, arrest and detain George Bush and Richard Cheney in Brattleboro if they are not duly impeached, and prosecute or extradite them to other authorities that may reasonably contend to prosecute them?"
"Turn Over Ballot and Indict Bush," read a 3-by-4-foot handmade picket sign carried by Daims, who stood outside the school Tuesday.
Voters interviewed after casting ballots said they saw the article as an opportunity to express their frustration over the war in Iraq and Bush's tenure in general.
"I realize it's an extreme thing to do, and really silly in a way," said Robert George, 74, a retired photographer. "But I'm really angry about us getting involved in the war in Iraq and him (Bush) disrespecting the will of the people," he said.
Ian Kelley, 41, a local radio DJ, said he didn't vote on the article.
"It's not a good reflection on the town," he said. "Do I like either of them and would I vote for them? No. But I don't think it's cause to arrest them."
Barbara Southworth, a 66-year-old nurse, said she would have voted against it.
"I forgot to vote because it was on the flip side," she said.
The White House press office didn't immediately respond to a request for comment but promised one later Tuesday. But a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee denounced the article.
"It appears that the left-wing knows no bounds in their willingness to waste taxpayer dollars to make a futile counterproductive partisan political point," said Blair Latoff. "Town people would be much better served by elected officials who sought to solve problems rather than create them."
Reformer staffer Bob Audette contributed to this report.
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Show All1608_Jamestown_1608 -- My family has been patriotic for almost 400 years, and we need a new covenant between the people and govt, to protect people such as yourself from the machinations of the military industrial corporate fascist greed and corruption that is rankly stealing everyones' future. Wake up, or serve on your knees forever …
Namaste
1776 We don't hate the players, just the game. Not even you, who are already being royally "reaped" by rethuglicans.
Perhaps you may look into how the Fed w/o reserve is eating away at YOUR own productivity (profiting the international and US bankers egregiously) so that your parents had a higher standard of living than you do, even with a two wage earner family. Wake up pawn of the propaganda !
Namaste
If the election comes down to Clinton or McCain – I will vote for McCain. Though both he and Hillary are pieces of shit, at least McCain admits that he is a Republican.
There must be a way for American's to come together and decide what is right with our country and build on it.
Too often I hear people talk of what we need to do, without ever taking action. When will all those who hide behind the printed word, step out and by action, let us begin to take back our country.
Should the President and Vice-President be arrested? I know I don't want them in my town, but I also don't want to waste the money to arrest them. Instead, we need to show them what "We the People" believe and allow them to understand, we will no longer be silent! If other so-called "third world" countries can roust their citizens to the streets and tell the government what they think, why can't the same be done in the USA?
Stop the isolation of the driver's seat, the wasting of the earth's oil, the destruction of our planet. Get out of your car's and learn to walk once again. Walk to your freedom, walk to the air you breathe, walk for your body and walk because the future generations need us to.
Show the government we no longer need the oil this conflict is based on. Show the world we as Americans do not need to destroy neighborhoods, towns, villages and children's futures. Show the world, "We the People of the United States of America" care what will happen next, to its people and their future.
Don't underestimate the sound of a single voice, especially when that one voice is joined by another, and another, and another. When all our voices come togeter, we will once again be, "We the People".
Way to go Vermont. The first step is always the hardest. I'm proud of you.
Exile them to Iraq!
See what happens.
Bush gets character reference from his former harvard lecturer:-
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi
His former Harvard Business School professor recalls George W. Bush
not just as a terrible student but as spoiled, loutish and a
pathological liar.
EXCUSE ME; BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN IRAQ AND HOW MANY OF OUR GRANDKIDS WILL BE PATYING FOR THIS STUPID OCCUPATION FOR OIL! COULD THOSE PATRIOTS PLEASE HAVE THE DA DRAW UP THE BILL OF PARTICULARS ,AND SET FORTH THE WARRANTS.
Courage is as courage does.
We live in a political time when incidents are manufactured out of whole cloth. Last month, for example, some obviously falsified audio (no wave or bird noises were in the background in the spliced parts) was trumpeted by our government. They fabricated an Iranian motorboat captain's threats against a U.S. destroyer. The WMD gang, standing behind the full credibility of the United States military, performed this act of hollow lying to railroad the U.S. into yet another war.
Apparently this gang of incompetents stops at nothing. In their pursuit of power forever, they regularly rape democracy.
I won't belittle the risks that any town or state undertakes in angering supremely godless tyrants. The risks are real.
So are the townspeople. Americans are quite often willing to take calculated risks of suffering and even death for the rights of their families, of their neighbors and of their country. That's who Americans are.
George Bush just endorsed John McCain for the republican candidacy. Personally, I would not consider it an honor to be endorsed by a greedy racist chronic underachieving fraudulent illiterate draft dodger.
Cordially,
SRD
http://www.bccmeteorites.com/misconduct-planetary.html
Now I know why Obama won Vermont.
Now, if we can just get Bush and Cheney to Brattleboro or Marlboro.
"When history writes George Bush's story, he will be held in high regard for going into Iraq."
No, he won't! Not if I (as a professional historian) can help it.
Apparently standing up to executive power is considered to be " a futile point". Why doesn't Blair Latoff just wear a Mussolini T-shirt? The people of these two Vermont towns are "thinking globally", and "acting locally". They are doing what the citizens of a healthy democracy are supposed to do. Letting criminals run your government is the truly silly thing to do.
I guess Brattleboro and Marlboro will be on the terrorist list now!
"It appears that the left-wing knows no bounds in their willingness to waste taxpayer dollars to make a futile counterproductive partisan political point," said Blair Latoff. "Town people would be much better served by elected officials who sought to solve problems rather than create them."
oh, and about that bill clinton impeachment over an affair... that was absolutely necessary to preserve our constitution and was a completely FAIR AND BALANCED decision.
holding OUR country's representatives accountable for misdeeds... no... CRIMES, is only symbolic.
how's that for american democracy, for ya?
get the fools on your side...
PS: This has given me new respect for "Marlboro Country".
Doesn't Brattleboro have a Simon Wiesenthal who could relentlessly hunt down the war criminals and bring them in for trial?
Citizen Patriots of Brattleboro and Marlboro
We are honored by your actions,
and acknowledge the power behind the deliberate creation of public outcry for "our" despotic and reprehensible loonitary_in_thief's discretionless deceit and abandonment of decency and constitutional declarations denied
Bless you for taking a stand against tyranny and abuse, as all that is done illegitimately in our names, tarnishes our immortal souls while disenfranchising our world's people of their desperate hopes and dreams.
Perhaps there is now America's dawning of awareness of the USA Inc's hellish-worldly rape, destruction, and murder of millions of decent people throughout the globe. The capital of the world war on terror is also the source and creator of the very terror that we duplicitously feign our incessantly linked responsibility for.
Justice may be blind, but even so, her skin is crawling and gut wrenched with sounded fury of shared pain and terror - that must stop ___ N_O_W ___.
¿ What would occur if we were honest enough to fly the eXXon flag over our embassy in Baghdad ?
Namaste
Brattleboro and Marlboro stand for the millions across the globe who voted against this illegal, predictably murderous, mass slaughter and heart rending invasion with their feet in February 2003 and were dismissed. So much for democrocy.
A war for oil based on a pack of lies in our name. Two small towns stand tall and may their initiative spread across the globe.
Thank you Brattleboro and Marlboro, you have given meaning to integrity again (a word long forgotten in Washington and Whitehall) and meaning to those debased words 'freedom and democrocy' as they really should be.
'All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men (and women) to do nothing'. And silence is complicity.
BRAVO! BRAVO!
AWESOME!!!
This coming from a state that allows pedophiles in with open arms (and the national HQ of NAMBLA I've heard) and gives them 6 mos. probation when they kill someone....Great handling of your priorities!!!!
Aaahh - the swiftboaters return (pfek-lar).
An unarmed drone is on its way to kill the terrorists who are gathered at a house - any house. If any one else is harned - Ah well!
I'd say that all who supported this vote should stand up and take a bow - but that would put them in the sights.
Just wait and see if any residents of these towns ever get to fly again.
Vermont is the one state The Misbegotten Son has never ventured into in all of his dismal reign. He has however spent much quality time in Saudi Arabia, tongue kissing the Arab Sheiks and dancing with swords. Vermont has my respect and I am going to have to buy some of that famous maple syrup.
I've got to move to Vermont.
ladybug, :)
Paul Revere,
I think Brattleboro and Marlboro just made the short list of potential targets the Republicans would consider if they decide this October they need the kind of lift only a pre-election "terrorist attack" can bring.
I can only commend the people of those towns for taking on that risk. As the saying goes, freedom isn't free!
Wow. You know what they call someone irretrievably lost in far SW Arizona? Someone with no sense of Yuma! I think some of these bloggers are in the same boat.
Hooray for the voters in Brattleboro for finding a way to present their opinions in the face of the great dark grumbling cloud of political correctness. I'm going to stop there again for sure on my way into beautiful Vermont. God bless them for the power of their convictions, and add my vote in.
Bush: Use ethanol to get off oil
CNNMoney.com - 1 hour ago
Stay home and drink? That 'solves' everything doesn't it George.
Now, time for the Yes Men to invite Bush & Cheney to speak on behalf of HALIBURTON'S SPECIAL ANNUAL Battle-borrow GALA CELEBRATION.
Call the marvelous folks of Brattleboro or Marlboro call for extradition?
Rendition?
The people who have the COURAGE to stand up in these two towns are the REAL heroes, and we should be proud of them. And we should all follow their lead. There is a time to use our votes to DO SOMETHING about the REAL CRIMINALS. That time is NOW.
Brattleboro,
Let me join the chorus of well wishers on this site.
You have just put yourself on an historical map, much like Lexington, Concord, etc.
Long may your citizens reign.
Let the reactionary gainsayers who have zero Constitutional sense and are already _slaves_ mouth off.
You are free men, for you understand our strong Jeffersonian republican tradition!
Right On!
This is a truly bright spot in yesterday's disappointments in the primaries. Vermont must have something special to have made such a dramatic symbolic gesture. Does this kind of principle happen there because they were one of the original 13? Or does the cold air just make people think more clearly?