Killed While They Played Football, The Child Victims of Israel's Revenge on Gaza
Four boys playing football have been killed in Gaza by Israeli air strikes, according to Palestinian officials, as Israel responded to the death of a man from a barrage of rocket attacks with a bloody escalation of violence.
At least 16 Palestinians - including the four children - were killed yesterday as Israel responded to the deadly attacks the previous day.
While the Israeli military said it had been targeting militants and rocket-launching squads, the officials said the boys were playing football close to their homes in Jabalya, northern Gaza.
A relative, Ahmed Dardouna, 42, said the family had located the bodies of the boys - reportedly two brothers and their cousins - at a local hospital after they failed to return home. Rocket fire from militants into Israel continued during the day lightly injuring two Israelis and forcing the Israeli Interior Minister, Avi Dichter, to take cover during a visit to the border town of Sderot. His bodyguard was one of those injured, in a rocket attack launched before the minister arrived. Four rockets reached Ashkelon, 12 miles north of Gaza.
Palestinian officials said that while the majority killed were militants, 10 civilians were among the total of at least 27 killed over the past two days - seven of which were children.
They said that one Palestinian was killed and four wounded in a helicopter attack on a police roadblock 150 yards from the home of the de facto Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh.
Although Mr Haniyeh is said to have gone into hiding and was not at home at the time, the attacks were locally interpreted as a warning to Hamas's political leadership because the coastal area of the Beach refugee camp where he lives is not used for launching rockets.
The latest outbreak of violence began on Wednesday when an airstrike killed five militants, described by Hamas as "five of our best fighters", as they drove in a van in the southern Gaza town of Khan Yunis.
Hamas claimed responsibility for a subsequent and unusually heavy retaliatory barrage of more than 40 Qassam rockets, one of which killed a 47-year-old father of four at the Sapir College in Sderot.
Israel swiftly responded with a series of air strikes beginning on Wednesday, killing two other children aged 10 and 11, according to Palestinian officials. A missile attack on the Ministry of Interior building on Wednesday evening killed a baby, Mohammed al-Burai, living nearby and caused severe destruction at the adjacent offices of the Oxfam-funded Palestinian Medical Relief Society.
Oxfam said the missile destroyed £15,000 of drugs in the pharmacy, a disabled centre catering for 400 chronically ill patients, an ambulance and a generator needed during the frequent power cuts in Gaza. Oxfam said last night: "We call on all parties to end military action which affects civilians and targets civilian infrastructure."
The Israeli Defence Minister, Ehud Barak, yesterday hinted at the possibility of a large-scale ground operation in response to the Qassam fire, saying: "We must prepare for continued escalation... We are not eager [to carry out such an operation], and not shying away from it. Israel will reach the perpetrators and Hamas will pay a price for its actions."
But the Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, who met the US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Tokyo, where he is on an official visit, said there were no "magic formulas" to eliminate rocket fire. He added: "We are suffering painful blows, but are returning more painful blows. We will continue fighting in order for the danger to the residents to end."
One of the Palestinians killed was Hamza al-Haya, the son of a senior Hamas Palestinian legislative council member, Khalil al-Haya, and said by the Islamic faction to have commanded a rocket-launching squad in northern Gaza. Visiting the morgue at Gaza, Mr Haya said: "I thank God for this gift. This is the 10th member of my family to receive the honour of martyrdom."
There were unconfirmed reports that a fifth child was also killed in Jabalya last night. As the Palestinian Foreign minister, Riyad al-Malki, condemned both the Qassam attacks and the Israeli military actions, Nabil Abu Rdeineh, spokesman for the Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, said yesterday's air strikes "meant only one thing: the Israeli government... aims to destroy the peace process".
Ms Rice said: "I am concerned about the humanitarian condition there and innocent people in Gaza being hurt. We have to remember that the Hamas activities are responsible for what has happened in Gaza."
Palestinians claimed the air strikes included the use of F16s and Apache helicopters.
© 2008 The Independent
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Show AllIsraeli Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert said there were no "magic formulas" to eliminate rocket fire
Yes there is...Return to the 1948 UN mandated borders, and stop trying to steal another peoples country
WE MUST NEVER STOP 'FIGHTING' FOR PEACE.
Lademain'
A search never showed Yasser or anyone else saying such a thing. YOUR UNBELIEVEABLE!
Damn, a full-blooded Nazi, cloven hoofed pig-lademain-is polluting this thread, and truly, the pig just enjoys it if a human gets down in its excrement with it.
And not needed; this gnashing of teeth, this shrill age-old hand-wringing and whining is the hateful voice of a miserable, insecure and ugly little soul.
A dead withered soul, like the soul of NaziIsrael.
Lademain
I stand corrected. I said I didn't believe you weren't an evangelical Christian. I was obviously wrong. You aren't a Christian at all.
lademain is a Zionist Shrill..
It is easy to tell by the characteristic ignorance of the postings, racist hatred, pitiful lies and clear lack of actual facts (other than those that come out of the Zionist Ministry of Peace).
It is better not to engage such an entity because it is surprisingly slippery even when its ignorance and lies are exposed.
Wiser to ignore and it will mercifully wither away, wasting its own time, at its keyboard somewhere in the US or TelAviv.
Poor little illulu doesn't understand that Israel owns the lands you terrorists are trying to steal. We know you people get paid to suck up to the Saudis, so what makes you think we care about that dead dimwit terror-symp Corrie, who plowed herself under whilst attempting to protect an arab missile tunnel? We wish Arab shrapnel were bursting through your roofs instead of the roofs of innocent Israelis. And you're quite correct: We're proud to stand by Israel. We support the Patriots of Israel who are battling the Islamic imperialists--and we know it breaks your hearts to realize that millions of Israeli Muslims join Israeli Jews and Christians in this battle. You terror-symps are drunk on blood and soon you will drown in your own. And while you're at it, explain why you terror-symps use innocent babies as bomb carriers? Why do you murderers strap bombs on their little bellies? Do you get pleasure when these children are shredded to bits? We stand by Israel because tiny brave Israel is the finger in the dike that is blocking the Saudis from bursting through tiny Israel to re-conquer Spain. Viva Israel! Down with the bloody anti-zionists! As for overkill? That's what you terror-symps have been praying for and now that you're getting it down your own necks, don't whine.
lademain, since you're friends with the Zionists, do you know why the Israelis ran over and killed the young American activist Rachel Corrie with their tanks? She was unarmed and harmless. Do you know why the Israeli tanks machine-gun the young Palestinian boys who throw small stones at the Israeli tanks? Talk about overkill.
The Israelis are paranoid and schizophrenic racists.
lademain 12:42......."pali-dogs" is this another word for Palestinians?
I do understand to kill babies and enjoy it you must de-humanize them. To TORTURE BOUND CHILDREN AS ISRAEL DID AT KHIAM, they cannot be people, thus 'pali-dogs'
Thank you for sharing "pali-dogs" on this CD thread.
Khiam
I love the sad Irony of a member of A royal Family fighting for democracy in another country.
another irony is that my own country has its laws rubber stamped by the queen of england.
If you want to stop new laws from getting passed in the UK, realize that due to an out dated law they must all be written on a Vellum of Goat skin and imprinted by the queens royal seal (not the sea animal)- steal all the goats = anarchy.
Two wrongs don't make a right, and seeking revenge is wrong. I believe that a non-violent religion such as Buddhism is the only answer.
It's easy for me to say that, however. I don't know what my reaction would be if a foreign military invaded my country and killed my loved ones. I wasn't raised as a Buddhist, unfortunately.
It takes a lot of strength to not react to evil of such magnitude. I was, however, raised as an Episcopalian (Anglican) and one of the Commandments did get through to me, and that was "Thou Shalt Not Kill." That's the reason I lean towards Buddhism now.
Only someone with an agenda would call denunciations of this kind of barbarism 'propaganda.'
Look, nobody is saying the Palestinians are guiltless in this conflict. They have done plenty to be blamed for.
But it's kind of irrelevent as we are now talking about the 4 boys who were murdered in THIS incident, which is aggression by Israel.
I was raised on a saying: "Two wrongs don't make a right." As long as the people of the middle east embrace an 'eye for an eye' mentality, there will be plenty of atrocities committed by both sides.
As for this atrocity, condemning Israel is more than justified..
I don't believe you are non-evangelical at all. And 'the world' never agreed to a restoration of Israel. It was forced by the English and has caused decades of suffering for all.
President Carter referred to Israeli practices as 'apartheid.' I suppose he is on your evil bandwagon as well? Again.. you have an agenda so you aren't able to see the issue as clearly as those of us who don't have one..
O stop with this foolish propaganda. Ever since the wretched pali-dogs inflamed bias against Jews with their lies about Israelis being responsible for the Arab boy al Dura (who was murdered by Islamic terrorists) we've had certain types of Jews popping out of the woodword declaring their hatred for their own faith. Strange, but we don't see Catholics urging the destruction of the Vatican to avenge the victims of preistly pederasty. So, what is it with you people? Where were your big bleeding hearts when Yasser Arafat butchered hundreds of Israeli Arabs--many of them Muslims--who were loyal to Israel? Where were you when Yasser was yammering about invading Israel to make its streets run red with "the blood of the Jews"?
We are the NON-evangelical Christians for Zion. We stand by Israel, especially against deliberately misguided hypocrites who flock to the evil propaganda spread by the likes of Kofi Annan and CNN's Ted Turner.
We say: "Viva Israel! Restore Jewish Palestine from the ocean to the sea the way the world orginally agreed Israel should be"
I would also add, that I regard most of the individuals serving in the IDF as psychotic, and believe that they regard the Palestinian people as some kind of "untermenschen", to be exterminated like vermin.
Lillulu: I hope that you didn't think that I was supporting Harry, or personally regarded him as a "hero", because I regard anyone eager to join up and fight in Iraq or Afghanistan as a war criminal. The fact of the matter is, that young people born into a military family, or being of low intelligence (and therefore more easily manipulated), are more likely to see the armed forces as a more "glamorous" alternative to everyday life.
We cannot judge everyone by our own standards, because if we all thought like Common Dreams readers, then there would be no war.
There are however, a lot of individuals who relish the thought, of being the gunner in a Challenger tank, piloting an F16 or getting their rocks off by unloading a 50 calibre machine gun at some unfortunate person. If these people did not exist, then the armed forces would have no staff, because these people do not join the army/navy/air force simply to learn a trade.
AndyUK, I think Prince Harry would have been more of a hero if he had stayed out of Afghanistan and not shot at and possibly killed anyone. What's so "exciting" about gunning down other human beings who really are no threat. If that's Prince Harry's most exciting adventure so far, he needs to get a life. Perhaps he could play video war games instead.
boycott Israel, check out their website. read this archive...
Brigadier General Says Israel is the problem not Iraq
by James J. David a retired Brigadier General
Jan 7, 2003
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a576.htm
(James J. David is a retired Brigadier General and a graduate of the U.S.
Army's Command and General Staff College, and the National Security Course,
National Defense University, Washington, DC. He served as a Company
Commander with the 101st Airborne Division in the Republic of Vietnam in
1969
and 1970 and also served nearly 3 years of Army active duty in and around
the
Middle East from 1967-1969.)
Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons?
Answer: Israel.
Question: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections?
Answer: Israel.
Question: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of
other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of
United Nations Security Council resolutions?
Answer: Israel.
Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the
international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and
artillery
and naval gunfire?
Answer: Israel.
Question: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins
into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes
called exporting terrorism)?
Answer: Israel.
Question: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military
officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed?
Answer: Israel.
Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers
who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war?
Answer: Israel.
Question: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and
refuses
to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses?
Answer: Israel.
Question: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to
people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated?
Answer: Israel.
Question: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United
Nations
diplomat assassinated?
Answer: Israel.
Question: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the
assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat becomes prime minister?
Answer: Israel.
Question: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic
facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in
international
waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors?
Answer: Israel.
Question: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard,
to
steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union?
Answer: Israel.
Question: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard,
then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the
American president grant Pollard a full pardon
Answer: Israel.
Question: What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee
to
its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to
extradite
them once in their custody?
Answer: Israel
Question: What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine
and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed
in
their Mosque.
Answer: Israel
Question: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in
the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of
Washington
insiders?
Answer: Israel.
Question: Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N.
Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and
especially children?
Answer: Israel
Question: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United
Nations
Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S.
vetoes?
Answer: Israel.
Question: Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of
all
U.S. aid yet is the 16th richest country in the world?
Answer: Israel
Question: Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free
and
then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of
the U.S.?
Answer: Israel
Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely insults the American
people by having its Prime Minister address the United States Congress and
lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce foreign
aid?
Answer: Israel
Question: Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce
to
his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control
America?"
Answer: Israel
Question: What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International
for demolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of
ethnic
cleansing.
Answer: Israel
Question: Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon
of
mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a
highly
populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children?
Answer: Israel
Question: Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian
children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles,
bulldozers, or tanks?
Answer: Israel
Question: Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising
to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more
than 270 new settlements since the signing?
Answer: Israel
Question: Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100
political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing
hundreds
of civilians in the process, including dozens of children?
Answer: Israel
Question: Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva
Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and
camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire
villages while people are still in their homes?
Answer: Israel
Question: What country in the Middle East is the United States threatening
to
attack because of fear that it may be a threat to us and to our allies?
Answer: Iraq
Saturday; 60 or so more dead, 100 plus injured since yesterday, BABIES shredded by the JEWS. Murderers.
Maybe Jews IN GENERAL should be held accountable for these atrocities-
Was Germany the Nazi's in WW2? Were they one? Who did we fight?
Maybe the convenient division between Jew and Zionist facilitates this ongoing MURDER OF CHILDREN.
JewZionists are Ultra-Rascist; these better-than, CHOSEN PEOPLE-slaughter the 'Araboushkin' as they call Palestinians and Arabs, a word equivalent to kike or nigger, they slaughter them day and night. babykillers.
And if someone like me cries foul, the NaziJews cry rascist.
I'm not a rascist. I'm a realist. Quit killing children in the name of The Chosen People's "Jewish State;" Israel's own words.
Israel and all Jews who support it are RASCIST MURDERERS.
And silence is support.
My Grandfather helped liberate France in WW one, his Bi-Plane shot down; After which Carpetbagging Jews from around the globe descended on Germany's carcass where they fed. Engendering hatred (Hitler), as as they turned the screws to a starving people. The ensuing war was zero rationale to become the NEW NAZI'S, though in Palestine, not Germany-What Insanity.
Am I rascist to state this? If it is fact?
I'm just tired of waking up to headlines like this mornings NYT's. And yesterday's. ad infinitum death.
Condi Rice works for a man who bullied his way into the White House under questionable means i.e. election fraud and committed war crimes and treason afterward. In Jeb Bush's Florida African-Americans were the denied the right to vote in 2000.
An honorable person wouldn't accept a job offer from such a person under these circumstances. In addition, Ms. Rice is biased towards Israel and contributes to the problem. She has no business being Secretary of State just as George Bush has no business being president. Both are incompetent and should be behind bars for lying/treason/war crimes/crimes against humanity, etc.
My brother fought in Europe in WW2 and helped to free Belsen in northern Germany and he states and has always maintained most Jews died of desease and malnutrition. I talked to many people just after that stupid war and most said they had never heard of anybody being gassed. Gas chambers were used in some camps to de-lice clothing and bedding but this fact was grabbed by the Zionists to gain sympathy just like the Bush gang did with 9/11.
Hey girls, are you ging around and around aobut the word 'bitch'
Here is a funny acronym for the "word"
Being
In
Total
Control (of)
Him
In my experience insecure guys don't find it funny-it confuses them, on the other hand, most women laugh and 'together' males as well.......rare as they are.
A sweet day to you.
Coco: couldn't agree more, he and all the others who willingly entered into this pre-emptive war without reason against Iraq, should be tried for war crimes.
The fact that Tony Bliar was made special envoy to the Middle East has to be the biggest affront in years, upstaged only by the Roamn Catholic church's decision to let him convert. If he is the Middle East envoy, then let's see him travelling to Gaza, Damascus and Tehran, and not just Jerusalem or Riyadh.
This World stinks, but it does so because of the stench from the rotten, corrupt politicians.
SpiritDancer wrote:
"Lucitanian… also read lillulu's post "Yes Rice, you cold, dumb, inhuman bitch…..there is no call for that."
I disagree. Admittedly the term 'bitch' is not a nice term, but it is a legitimate word complete with a Webster's definition.
Sometimes when someone is acting in a way that fits that definition, and is harming others in the process.... it is totally appropriate to employ the term.
Condi Rice is also a liar... she lied in her confirmation hearings... she lied in her testimony about Iraq. She has been a horrible secretary of state..
#coco March 1st, 2008 5:03 am
and as long as morons like tony bliar are the supposed 'peace envoy' there never will be peace initiative……….
==========
Please note correction. Tony Blair is not a moron, he is a war criminal.
Israel, the land of the Jews, continues to commit war crimes. Have they learned nothing from what Nazis had done to them?
Down with Israel, wake up rest of the world. Denounce this pariah state, this genocidal state of aparthied, and led by war criminals.
ANDYUK
and as long as morons like tony bliar are the supposed 'peace envoy' there never will be peace initiative..........
The real sadness about this situation, is that the mainstream media (apart from the BBC World Service on the radio) in the UK, are not giving any airtime or press coverage on the front pages. Over the past three days, we have been fed a constant diet of brave Prince Harry's most "exciting" (his words) adventure in Afghanistan, fighting "Terry Taliban" (again his words).
This constant manipulation of "news", whilst keeping from us the truth is making me sick.
There is no peace initiative in the Middle East, there are no real efforts to mediate between Israel and Palestine, and the US and UK will make sure that Israel can keep everything which they have stolen, and be able to keep order in the concentration camp that is Ghaza.
Thousands of unarmed women and children and men torn to shreds by brave NaziJewishIsraeli's. Thousands of defensless people, an occupied defensless people shredded by bombs and tanks.
And in their sad attempts to resist a Goliath of Death they manage to kill a few of the occuppiers over the years.
And the Nazi's point to this as rationale for further murder. "For every one of ours-a hundred of yours executed"
German Occupied France. Israel.
Condi Rice is a cold, inhuman bitch. She takes Israel's side in all of this. If people don't like what I consider her to be, that's too bad.
Sixty years of racist oppression by the Zionists has bred 5 generations of hatred and vengence into the soul of the Palestinian people. Revenge is at hand !!!!!!!!!!!
THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST
"Spiritually and Physically Responsible " From its inception, many rabbis warned of the potential dangers of Zionism and openly declared that all Jews loyal to G-d should stay away from it like one would from fire. They made their opinions clear to their congregants and to the general public.
Their message was that Zionism is a chauvinistic racist phenomenon which has absolutely naught to do with Judaism. They publicly expressed that Zionism would definitely be detrimental to the well being of Jews and Gentiles and that its effects on the Jewish religion would be nothing other than destructive. Further, it would taint the reputation of Jewry as a whole and would cause utter confusion in the Jewish and non-Jewish communities.
The Israeli's, the Jewish People collectively (I Know there are many exceptions among individuals), have lost site of what makes them so Special that they can become as ruthless as their own oppressors once were to them. Wont they ever learn? I think they were Given Israel Too Soon. They should have wandered the desert for 40 years to purify themselves of their slave/ in this case victim/oppressor mindset. They have Now become the very thing they said they hated so much. They can re-claim their True wealth of spirit - or is it too late?!? As an Earth citizen caught in the balance I hope this Titanic can avert the sure tragedy. What are they going to do: kill each and every every last Palestinian, one at a time. What is that? WTF!!! Israel, You have become The Abomination.
Zionist Priorities During the Holocaust
Zionist policy during the Holocaust is best summed up in the words of Yitzhak Greenbaum speaking on 'The Diaspora and the Redemption' at a Tel Aviv meeting in February 1943:
For the rescue of the Jews in the Diaspora, we should consolidate our excess strength and the surplus of powers that we have. When they come to us with two plans - the rescue of the masses of Jews in Europe or the redemption of the land - I vote, without a second thought, for the redemption of the land. The more said about the slaughter of our people, the greater the minimization of our efforts to strengthen and promote the Hebraization of the land. If there would be a possibility today of buying packages of food with the money of the 'Keren Hayesod' (United Jewish Appeal) to send it through Lisbon, would we do such a thing? No! And once again No!"
(Shonfeld, op. cit., p.26)
Greenbaum confirms this in his postwar book 'In Days of Holocaust and Destruction':
...When they asked me, couldn't you give money out of the United Jewish Appeal funds for the rescue of Jews in Europe, I said, 'NO!' and I say again 'NO!'...one should resist this wave which pushes the Zionist activities to secondary importance." (ibid., p.26)
It is heartening to see so many are waking up to the Zionist crimes..
That is really good..
The Zionists greatest fear is that the world will stop swallowing their propaganda and lies and open their eyes. This fear is well founded as that is exactly what is happening. We must ensure this process continues.
Now here are a couple more ways to get under the Zionnazi's skin..
Remind them that we see and know what they are doing..
1. The Palestinians are the New Untermensch
2. Israel is operating 21st century Apartheid.
3. Those responsible are Zionnnazis.
4. The Israeli Defence Force is now an Occupation force .. The IOF
5. Recognise that the Israeli Judicial system can't control the IOF.
6. Gaza and the West Bank are open air prisons.
7. Gaza is a ghetto.
8. The combined population of Gaza/West Bank is approximately 6 million Palestinians. That number has quite a resonance with some.
9. Learn the names of those killed and injured. Humanise those the Zionists seek to dehumanise.
You can count on me 1messengerofmany....
peace and love!
I think spiritdancer that we have to work really hard at doing the very thing I did not want to do in my first posting.
Look - witness and feel the pain, the grief, the sorrow, the horror.
I have worked really hard for the last 20 years at not allowing myself to become de-sensitized to trauma,suffering,cruelty...
I think the way we are going to change collectively is to become more connected to the suffering. In this case "more" is better.
For those of us who don't know..Yitzhak Greenbaum and company were Zionist who conspired with the national socialist party" headed by Hitler to kill Jews. These Zionist did not want Jews form Europe to live in Palestine [Israel].
"It would have been worthwhile to sacrifice another million Jews for the glory of the Warsaw Ghetto revolt" -- Yitzhak Greenbaum
The vast apparatus of the World Zionist Organization, including its illegal armed forces in Palestine etc. was not used to publicize the Holocaust and support resistance, but took part in covering it up until the Allied powers decided to publicize it.
In other words there is a difference [a Zionist..a Jew ]
1messengerofmany..... The interesting truth is, I am with you on every count. When I hear/see the news... 60, 100, 200, 20, people killed and so on and so forth, I wonder, what have we become, matter of fact, it is not even news worthy anymore.....
spiritdancer February 29th, 2008 5:49 pm:
I am not responsible directly for the acts of my planetary brothers and sisters who slaughter - I am accountable. I am accountable as a United States Citizen for the actions of our soldiers and of our President especially when it comes to Iraq, Afghanistan and torture. I am accountable as a planetary citizen for the acts of the Israeli's who have slaughtered the Palestianians 300 to 1. As a member of the planetary family I am accountable and powerless to do more than I can at this time. And what I can do is stand up and say the blood is on my hands as long as it is on yours.(metaphorically)
a powerless planetary sister who weeps for the sufferings of her planetary brothers and sisters.
Lucitanian... also read lillulu's post "Yes Rice, you cold, dumb, inhuman bitch....."
there is no call for that.
Not all Jews are Zionist, have you people ever heard of Yitzhak Greenbaum and company, or Jews against Zionism? People of all race and color are involved
in all kinds of bad things on our Blue Planet, in other words, there is good and bad in all of us, some of choose to do bad some of choose to do good.
Our economy would suffer in a ceasefire! That $10 mil a day is US taxpayer money going to Israel so they can buy more weapons from US arms manufacturers - in fact some is REQUIRED to be so spent.
Sooner or later we have to STAND UP and do whatever we need to do to stop the worldwide bloodshed our policies are causing. NOT IN OUR NAME!
Lucitanian .... people of all race and color are involved
in all kinds of bad things, nevertheless, only blacks are
reminded of their people, what about other races? that's my point!
"A senior Israeli official warned Palestinians in Gaza on Friday they risked a "shoah" if rocket fire continued, using the Hebrew term for holocaust as the Jewish state contemplated invading the Hamas-run enclave."
So what's new?
spiritdancer : … "where did Ms Rice people come from? you are nothing more than a racist!"
I cannot speak for lillulu, and I have no idea if she/he is or is not a racist but, Ms Rice came from slaves to freedom and she wants to help the Zionist Terrorists enslave the Palestinians, while she is directly enslaving the occupied Iraqi people and stealing their resources for American oil companies, including Exxon, on who's board she once sat.
There's nothing racist in saying that tyranny and terror is something most of "her people" either remember directly or know about, but Ms Rice prefers to help the Israeli criminal administration wield it over the Palestinians to get what they want, ethnically cleansed land, resources and racial apartheid.
I have to look, I don't want to look. I don't want to see suffering so immense that I am powerless to do anything about.
Is this how Europe and those in America felt when they saw the pictures of the Jewish children slaughtered by the Nazi's. How many dead Palestinians will it take for Israel to have satiated her revenge?
Israels hands and heart is so bloodied that I can no longer feel her sacredness she can no longer believe that she can assassinate, kill, starve, and oppress, and still believe herself to be of God's Chosen. God weeps, we all weep at what has happened to the Jewish Peoples of Israel.
Hi lillulu... where did Ms Rice people come from? you are nothing more than a racist!
It has been suggested in these comments that Ms. Rice is a "clueless" bitch for the comments she made concerning this crime. She isn't clueless.
Ooh - criticism of Israel. How unAmerican. Bet Obama won't condemn this.
For as long as I can remember, sixty years and more, the Palestineans have been roadkill on the Zionist roadmap. How I wish that Abraham's goat herds and their tribal war god had stayed lost in the Arabian desert.
Peace is the only solution. But, alas!
Western Europe & America uses Israel as a proxy to fight endless battles; this is a way to control oil rich nations and resource rich nations in the middle east and africa.
Peace can only come if Western Europe and America want it. Hundreds of people get murdered every day in the US but there is no military incursions into any neighborhood. Both the Israelis and Palestians can call a seize fire and live with the occasional killing until a new generation can live in peace, relative freedom, and economic prosperity. But, mainly the US and Western Europe have to want it. Can we live with truely free markets in the middle east and africa? Can we allow those nations to CONTROL their OWN RESOURCES? These are the questions that need to be answered.
I wonder what part of the "Roadmap to Peace" this is? Oh I get it now, just kill all the Palestinians and there will be peace? Is it the "Peace of the Common Grave" that bush is talking about?
Those who will not slip beneath
the still surface on the well of grief
turning downward through it's black water
to the place we cannot breathe
will never know the source from which we drink,
the secret water, cold and clear,
nor find in the darkness glimmering
the small round coins
thrown by those who wished for something else.
poet David Whyte
the viciousness is staggering.....it leaves me cold.
"We have to remember that the Hamas activities are responsible for what has happened in Gaza."
Damn straight. how dare those kids have fun. who do they think they are? this kind of out-right contemptuous ball-kicking should never be tolerated... and there were 4 of them, 4! gatherings of more than 2 are banned!!!
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this whole thing make me sick.
Yes Rice, you cold, dumb, inhuman bitch; what's next? Blame the children for the murderous, paranoid, psychopathic Israelis' crimes.
You'd think that a woman of color like Rice would have a little empathy for oppressed people, but no, as soon as she got power and money she forgot where her people came from.
"We have to remember that the Hamas activities are responsible for what has happened in Gaza."
This is EXACTLY the rationale given by a psychopath when they murder someone: "They angered me and I had to murder them - so it's their fault"
Israel's right wing that controls policy does not want a cease fire and does not want to recognize Hamas nor does it appear it even wants Hamas to recognize Israel which could be part of any cease fire.
Until a US prez stops the free money over there that we taxpayers pay, this game the racket of war goes on as usual.
more coverage from al Jazeera http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A6D28BF0-554F-42A6-975E-5472D29C935D.htm
If people paid attention to all the ceasefires in recent years, they would realize that Israel, no Palestine, broke the ceasefire. Every time there is a ceasefire, Israel starts its extra-judicial assassinations that kills more innocents and incites more hatred. This just confirms that Israel is a war-mongering, blood-thirsty, terrorist nation.
Hamas has offered a ceasefire several times. The mayor of Sderot recently suggested a ceasefire. There was a great video on Haaretz last week with a Jewish Rabbi from near Hebron and Palestinian journalist (Khalid Amayreh) who together crafted an ceasefire agreement which Hamas said it would agree to. Yesterday Haaretz says that 64% of Israeli public opinion favors a ceasefire. What happens? Israel escalates the bloodshed.
We all need to speak out. Americans because WE are paying Israel $10 million a day to continue this military onslaught. Jews because this is supposedly being done in YOUR name. Everybody because it is a crime against universal human rights. Please support the brave Palestinians who continue to resist and refuse to give up. See www.mecaforpeace.org. Please support Israeli groups who are confronting their own barbarous government. See www.gush-shalom.org.
"""Ms Rice said: "I am concerned about the humanitarian condition there and innocent people in Gaza being hurt. We have to remember that the Hamas activities are responsible for what has happened in Gaza.""""
The wicked bitch of the west is just as clueless as her clueless boss. The fact that this bitch does not even mention the daily harassments and humiliations by the apartheid nation is quite telling who he real masters are. She is also is probably as clueless about the daily shelling by the apartheid nation into the occupied territories. This is the same bitch that provided cluster munitions to the apartheid nation during the failed Lebanese reoccupation recently.