Comcast Corp. admitted yesterday that it paid people to attend a government hearing. Company critics say the freelance attendees were there to crowd them out; Comcast says they were merely saving seats for employees.
The five-hour hearing Monday at Harvard University was organized by the Federal Communications Commission to address the issue of net neutrality, a hot-button topic for those who think there should be minimal restrictions on Internet traffic.
The topic has drawn wide interest from college students, media-reform groups, and Internet companies.
An official at Free Press, a nonprofit advocacy group that has criticized Comcast for limiting the amount of data some of its customers send over its network, accused the cable company of "stacking the deck" at the hearing with the 30 to 40 "seat-warmers." An official at Harvard said dozens of real participants were left standing outside the auditorium with placards.
"They were taking seats away from other citizens who had a right to be there," said Catherine Bracy, administrative manager for the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at the Harvard Law School. "It was a PR thing. [Comcast] wanted more people in the room who were sympathetic."
Comcast feared a loud and critical crowd at the hearing where executive vice president David Cohen was scheduled to testify. Comcast, which offers high-speed Internet to 48 million homes, has said it needs to manage Internet use so that a small number of customers transmitting very large video files do not clog the network for everyone.
Comcast says the number of seat-warmers was small in proportion to the capacity of the 290-seat auditorium. There was additional standing room.
The practice is similar to one in Washington, where people have been paid to stand in line for congressional hearings, a company official said. The seat-warmers were to reserve places for Comcast employees.
A number of Comcast employees did attend the hearing, but it was unclear whether the seat-holders gave up their seats for them.
For the week ahead of the hearing, Comcast said in a statement, "the Free Press has engaged in a much more extensive campaign to lobby people to attend the hearing on its behalf."
Attention was called to Comcast's tactic by Free Press officials who attended the hearing. One photographed two seat-warmers sleeping during the hearing.
"We spent time educating the public about the event and the issue," said Free Press spokeswoman Jen Howard, "and we did not have to pay anyone to attend."
Bracy, of the Berkman Center, said the group of seat-warmers caught her attention when she showed up at the Ames Courtroom at 7:15 a.m. Monday to prepare for the hearing.
About 35 people - mostly men dressed in jeans and baseball caps and one in a camouflage jacket - were parked in the first three rows of the auditorium drinking coffee and reading the Boston Globe, she said.
They were "regular Joes" who looked like they could have come from Dunkin' Donuts, Bracy said. She was surprised to find them there several hours before the late-morning event. "I thought, great, we're reaching out to new communities."
But Bracy's suspicions of the Internet activists grew when none of them appeared to know about wireless Internet capabilities and two in the front row fell asleep during the hearing.
"I mean," Bracy said, "they were supposed to be all fired up."
© 2008 The Philadelphia Inquirer
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Show AllThen this one becomes completely clear except to those in denial, or on the other side of the people. Note, pay attention to point number 6:
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
The Rothschilds have had control of the media as a plank on their platform for quite a few generations now. See:
http://iamthewitness.com/doc/RothschildsTimeline-filer/frame.htm
Once you have studied the prior link this one makes sense:
http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/wra.pdf
What's new? Lobbyists hire seat warmers in Washington DC every day, $9 to $11 bucks an hour. They fill the halls until the doors of the hearing rooms open.
I'm not a subscriber, I don't use thier service and I never will. If you don't like what they do, don't pay them to do it.
CONcast is all about corporate greed and unreliability. They still refuse to carry the Big Ten Network in the midwestern states. Also they are about $20 more than the satellite companies like DirectTV or Dish Network. That's why I gave them the boot back in Nov. Good riddance!!!
You know what's really interesting about the baby boomer generation, is how they just blindly believe anything that's on TV, and dismiss anything that's not on TV. Cable network news, or their local news.
I'm serious too. And if anyone presents them with facts, evidence etc they'll say something absurd like "Well I haven't heard that" " I haven't seen that."
Gee. They didn't see it on TV. It must not be true.
Oh. I did see _____ on TV. It must couldn't be false.
Who knew Television was the final moral authority for the baby boomers?
It really is like Homer Simpson "TV wouldn't turn against me."
I actually spoke to a co-worker who watches Foxnews who was UNAWARE that the hosts like Bill O, Hannity etc read off of teleprompters, have writers, guests, producers etc all staging the show. All preplanned. He just didn't get it.
When I was in high school my teachers told me that "1984" was a warning against communism. I was skeptical of their interpretation. Now I know they were unwittingly part of the conspiracy. Staged FEMA press conferences, stooges paid to pretend to do their civic duty. If it pretends to be democracy and it gets on TV, then it's real for the brain-dead population of the U.S.A.. What Orwell warned us about tuened out to be the corporatocracy, and I don't think its masters mind any of the remaining presidential candidates winning.
Proving once again-and conclusively-there is no honor among thieves.
Posted by Poet:
Personal to truthteller: I have AT&T DSL and had no trouble accessing savetheinternet.org–maybe your service is encountering technical difficulties.
Just a heads-up, folks. The correct address isn't www.savetheinternet.org. It's www.savetheinternet.com.
The toilet would be more appropriate
I simply want to reduce each and every corporation to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.
Years ago when I made my living as a despised minority, e.g. telephone sales (B2B), people would yell at me on the phone. "Why are you calling me? "Why are you doing this?" I would say, "Sir, would you like me to tell you?" He would say, "Yes, I would." I said, "Ok, then I will.
It is the business of business to suck the marrow from the bones of their employees and any customers they can get their hands on. If you don't like the way things are, get together with a few of your friends, raise $40-$60 million dollars and go bribe Congress. If my bosses don't like what you're doing, they'll get together with a few of their friends, they'll raise $40-$60 million dollars, and they'll bribe Congress against you. Whoever has the most money will win. That's Free Enterprise and Democracy all rolled into one. You have a nice day. No charge."
That was 10 years ago. We still had Chapter 7. We don't anymore. We still had a lot of things back then. Whaddya think? Anything got better since?
If Corporations are Persons, where do I sign up for the Execution Squad? I shoot pretty straight, one bullet one kill. Probably of few of you do too. As long as Corporations are Persons, we are NOT Citizens. Are we...
I want Federal Agencies who make it their business to find these guys pulling the heavy shit and NAIL THEM. Full time. That's all that they do - with Enforcement Budgets large enough to make it stand up and run. Here's why: The nasty Monster Richfilth have small armies of people working 24/7 to FUCK US. We don't have a prayer against that POWER and Privilege aka Private Law - and we never will until we BREAK their Corporations.
Pieces of 8.
Doom n Gloom:
"They fear us and they should."
LMAO! Fear us? They don't fear us. Why should they be afraid of a bunch of people who sit behind keyboards and whine all day?
Fear is what happens when someone is convinced that he is surely going to die at any moment. That type of fear can induce all kinds of behavior changing efforts. Pitchforks and torches will work. Whining and indignance only make "us" look like a herd of Vaseline carriers for Big Business.
comcast uses the commons. if you don't like them, take back the commons, i.e., do some work on this issue.
Fail to see the problem. The entire concept of lobbyists is bribery. Congress can subpoena anyone to testify (except Shotgun Dick who changes branches of government minute by minute and never leaves a forwarding address.) Each company or interested individual could name a spokes person to a list. Congress could consult the list, but pick whoever they want. For scientific stuff recognized experts could be called instead of CEO's to answer questions (like is tobacco addictive?).
Of course, this would be logical and might not yield the desired political outcome and handy soundbites.
The photos look like they got these guys from a Union Hall Bench... sad and unemployed.
I can't get CSPAN without paying more. I can't get Comedy Central or MSNBC whatsoever, here in rural Kansas... without going to the Dish... I guess even three minutes of alternative media is too threatening.
When I try to list the destructive actions to representative government and liberty, brought on by the Duopolly under Bush.... I run out of brain cells and steam starts spewing out of the side of my neck.
I'm dumbfounded.
Oh, and armbands might help too.
Maybe Comcast should dress all its seat-savers in brown shirts so they can be easily identified. So the people who are having seats saved for them will know where to go.
Before shooting my TV I had Comcast. To modify/add/delete service one calls a rep. They always RIPPED US OFF by charging more than the rep said they would-how convenient; it's verbal, over a phone line, middle of the month....It was just so obvious, so crude, not unlike the above SLIMEY TACTIC.
Thieves.
Imagine, you are actually paying this corporation to hand over your personal emails to Bush
COMCAST said it needs to manage the hearing so that a small number of citizens attending the hearing do not clog the room for everyone
This episode has a sorry parallel to Ancient Rome, where rival patrician factions would hire desperate plebeians for a variety of dirty public deeds (such as rioting in a rival's neighborhood). The more things change, the more they stay the same.
look at their pictures. this is one of the reasons we call the ruling class and its minions pigs.
we are threatening the ruling class with the internet; therefore the ruling class will take it from us. revolutions start with a period during which the people exhaust all legal means of struggle.
Thanks B Payne, dustinchicago, and everyone else.
Last year Comcast bought out Roadrunner here and as soon as the coast was clear, it raised rates from Roadrunner's $29 to $59 a month (to punish anyone who doesn't sign up for cable TV with Comcast.) This month the rate rose to $69.
I contacted the state, and the state said rates were set locally. I contacted the city council, which asked the city lawyers to look into it. The final word was, Comcast can do what it wants since there's no other provider.
In the nextdoor suburbs the rates haven't been raised yet. According to a friend on the city council, Comcast is using a few places as tests to see how high they can raise the rates. Once this is known, they can raise all the rates to that level.
Wireless server??? Wireless server!! Hey, how hard can it be?
this incident points up the fact that many of the "salt of the earth" types are ready to sell their democratic rights, and ours too if they can get a few bucks that way. this low-lived crud is one of the nightmares of union organizing.
I have Comcast cable. I absolutely hate these corporations Comcast, A T & T, Verizon. After following this issue for some time and then reading of this pathetic attempt by Comcast to shut out concerned citizen's voices, I wrote a personal e-mail to Comcast telling regarding the whole matter of shutting out people (perhaps based on ideological/political reasons), and then paying people to take up the seats to silence the voice of the people. I told them I would support whatever legislation comes up (and we should all push for it)that opens the communications airways and cableways to more competition, that I would immediately discontinue receiving services from any/all of these entities when I have any other choice. In addition, I am/would be informing everyone I know of this issue and asking that they do the same. Comcast responded to me with denials of any wrongdoing, upon which I reminded Comcast if they were so innocent why would they pay people to shut out concerned voices --GIVE ME A BREAK!!! NO RESPONSE. It's a fact -- if there were other choices for any of these services where I live I would immediately suspend all business with all of these behemoth corporate predators.
Do you know how to setup and maintain a wireless internet server? Would you set up a system so all your neighbors can get online for free? Comcast fears this big time. Stick it to the bastards.
This is definately the most important fight happening on behalf of freedom of speech and access to a free flow of information by all.
Elaborate and complicated licensing regulation keeps all but the wealthiest or those with access to a specialty attorney and other technical professionals to obtain a broadcast license.
The sheer cost of equipment and facilities are able to stop all but the most wealthy from owning and operating a publication.
The Intermnet on the other hand, has all the benefits of both broadcasting and publications, is inexpensive to connect to, and just about everywhere.
No wonder anally retentive control freaks like the executives at Comcast have to rent-a-crowd at hearings in order to dominate the conversation.
Personal to truthteller: I have AT&T DSL and had no trouble accessing savetheinternet.org--maybe your service is encountering technical difficulties.
This is definately the most important fight happening on behalf of freedom of speech and access to a free flow of information by all.
Elaborate and complicated licensing regulation keeps all but the wealthiest or those with access to a specialty attorney and other technical professionals to obtain a broadcast license.
The sheer cost of equipment and facilities are able to stop all but the most wealthy from owning and operating a publication.
The Internet, on the other hand, has all the benefits of both broadcasyting and publications, is inexpensive to connect to, and just about everywhere.
No wonder anally retentive control freaks like the executives at Comcast have to rent-a-crowd at hearings in order to dominate the conversation.
Personal to truthteller: I have AT&T DSL and had no trouble accessing savetheinternet.org--maybe your service is encountering technical difficulties.
I just tried to get to "Savetheinternet.org" to sign the on-line petition to Congress, and keep getting error "not recognized" messages. Gee, do you think that many ISP's are blocking that site?
that's what happens when the rich rule the country!
Executives must feel insulated from the people. Having to buy people to take seats is beyond pathetic. They fear us and they should.
B Payne-Economist February 28th, 2008 12:24 pm
Thanks for pointing that out. This really speaks to the heart of the issue. One which Comcast is hoping to sweep under the rug, and that is the fact that they SOLD AND PROMISED A SERVICE THAT THEY COULDN'T ACTUALLY PROVIDE.
And you're correct, if they were to say "well certain internet users who use the net so much should pay more" that implies that those of us who barely use the internet at all should pay a lot less. The cable companies, of course, can't allow that to happen. If it's pay by use, the cable companies would be fucked.
TICKET SCALPING, SEAT SCALPING AND BROADBAND SCALPING
In it's terms of service, Comcast warns customers that monthly use over 2 Gegabytes is "excessive", even though a connection capacity of say, 4Mps can easily provide over a 1,000 Gegabytes per month on a sustained basis as sold and made explicitly available by Comcast.
Comcast never "caps" individual connection capacity because that would betray that it was oversold in the first place and imply that amounts below the cap were actually available.
Instead, deceptive terms of use after the sale allow Comcast to severely restrict the use of connection capacity to ridiculously low levels in bait and switch fashion.
It would be like renting a car to discover it can only be driven for 1 mile instead of a 100 miles, taking electric service to learn only 1 kilowatt hour is available instead of a 100 kilowatt hours, taking water service and find that only 1 gallon can be consumed instead of a 100 gallons, etc.
This is standard practice for Comcast, to oversell on the front end and then short available service on the back end.
It has an effect similar to that of ticket scalping, designed to create an artificial shortage by buying up all the tickets and jack up the ticket price by scalpers.
It's no suprise that Comcast regards public hearings as one more area to be abused and exploited in the context of its absurd characterizations of "competition and free markets", specifically to create an artificial shortage of available seating capacity there as well.
Like buying up all the tickets for an event, Comcast occupies all the seats in a public hearing (but in this case, doesn't resell them).
Likewise, Comcast oversells network capacity which is then severely restricted in ticket scalp fashion to jack up the price per unit of capacity effectively allowed in terms of sharply reduced Gegabyte volume after the sale.
Scalp the customers, scalp the public.
After all, if the public wants to participate in free speech, it needs to hire teams of lobbyists, lawyers and now, hired scalpers to go in and hold seats just to attend a public hearing.
People that lose their seats in public hearings just don't understand competition and free markets. Social Darwinan survival of the most fit scalpers, that's what democracy is all about. Early to rise, early to scalp, that's the Comcast plan.
There is "no" organized crime in the US. Hoover "cleaned" it all out.
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
On second thought, maybe they'll just re-wrap this dynamic in a few years under the new mantra: "public-private partnership."
The Corporations bought seat-warmers on BOTH sides of the microphone?
Incorrect term/euphamism "payed".
Correct term "Bribed."