The Clintons have performed a real service this year by curing any nostalgia we might feel for their days in the White House.

Clinton has proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that not only is she not ready to be president on day one but she wasn't even ready to be a good candidate from day one. Her divine right to the nomination has been revoked and now we see the ugly side of her campaign mocking the millions of democrats who have rallied to her challenger. She is a very poor candidate.

Militant, that's it exactly.

A poor candidate indeed, but we could have a president who would be willing to lend the US money every time we need it. We could be in debt to the Clintons, rather than China. I wonder what interest rate she charges....

Face it Sweetie, it's over.

Say goodnight, Hillary.

Not wanting to sound like I'm repeating myself, but militantliberal has it right..
Only to add the Billiary Dynasty carry on like they own the franchise to the White House...How dare an young upstart like Obama be so pretentious.. and I continue to be sickened by Hilliary's bitchy chicanery and pompous bullshit...

PS: If she ever made it to the White House and the Federal Reserve was running short Capitalising Deficit spending, Hilliary could chip in five or ten million dollars..hahaha

I wonder if all her and Bill's money is in the Asian Stock Market or socked away in Euros. Who's old Bill lobbying for, eh?

The polls in Texas and Ohio keep shifting towards Obama, with the mainstream cable stations consistently under-reporting the surge.

They said it was a tie in Wisconsin... they were way off. They said it was close in Chesapeake... they were wrong. Now they still fob her off as a real contender.

I hate it when the power brokers at the DNC, their corporate contributors with Media influence and the Military Industrial Complex, try to tell me how to think... try to shape my reality.

It feels even yuckier when they get away with it. I mean, why am I cheering for Obama? WTF is that? Neo-liberalism is the Left hand of Empire.

The Clintons are a serious problem for the Democratic party. They will not leave gracefully - instead pitch infantile fits and act like petulant children because they are being denied their royal entitlement. Considering what is at stake, their petty temper tantrums and selfish disregard for the destructiveness of their actions on the national stage is horrifying, but not a surprise. They need to be driven out of dodge, and although I am not a strong supporter of Obama--I will vote for him to oppose Clinton because I think getting them out is the first order, I admire the gentle manner in which he handles her with graciousness and diplomacy. His class is an asset that she lacks and he manages to calm her.

Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think that Hillary would have made a good president. However, she just blew it by letting her ambition get in the way of her principles.

If she was against NAFTA she should have stated it from the beginning of her campaign, and made it a point to demonstrate that she was going to correct some mistakes of both her husband's and Dubya's administrations. If she was against the war, she could not hold to a position that she was fooled by the neo-con agenda. If she is truly for universal health care she cannot force a pro-corporate profit-based solution and mandate that people must buy insurance, and then glibly compare it to social security and medicare, wherein people pay into a non-profit, cost-based systems based on their income.

All she had to do was ask Bill Clinton to act presidential and adopt Obama as a favorite son, effectively highlighting his inexperience.

What a terrible campaign, and what a screw up by the candidate - sad, very sad.

Well, now, we can all breath a sigh of relief as the woman that has been bugging us for six months or so will soon be gone. Then we can devote all of our energy to pushing the candidate that is so wonderful that he did not even think of running until the primaries are about over, Mr Perfect Nader.

Now we can all think of nice things to say for awhile to get the real one in instead of trying to outdo each other in describing Billary in the worst terms possible. Does anyone still remember any nice things to say, I wonder?

right on thought shaman...she is trying to play both sides of the fence...in reality she will follow the discredited policies of her husband, the NAFTA enabling, bomber of Bagdad and Kosovo, that she urged him to follow as President.

There is no money in universal health care for her or her cronies, so why support it? On the other hand, corporate medical insurance will pay her handsomely for her support.

I noticed when coming back from a commercial break in last night's debate that Hillary had just come from behind the curtains and was hurrying back to her chair. My immediate thought was, "Ok, let's see what her consulatants have told her to say next." I couldn't have been the only viewer to think that.

Clinton votes for cluster bombs
Israel/ AIPAC gives her money
Cluster bombs used in Lebanon
She took more milcon/arms money
than any other candidate
including repiglickins

Clinton takes huge bucks
from pharma hmos
goes "toe to toe" with
big boys ... thats playing footsie
not going toe to toe
She is corrupt up to her eyelashes
like Feinstein and Pelosi

Senator Obama voted against cluster bombs
He takes no lobbyist bucks.
His money is coming from small donations.

Re her belated return to the stage after the commercial break: I thought she was just running back from a potty break. Guess I'm not a deep thinker.

Mrs Clinton has tried to straddle the fence on the Iraq war from day 1. Now her chickens have come home to roost on that very fence. She knew better than to try to be a war-hawk and go along with this unfolding disaster, but traded her principles for what is turning out to be a stupid strategy.

Strangest campaign ever. At least since Kerry tried the "try to win by one vote" strategy. And then...she and Obama are still neck and neck? Weird. I guess that's what happens when you both pretty much say the same thing.

I've gone from having a case of election ennui to needing to be hospitalized.

What do you expect? Dogs bark, cattle moo and Hillary Clinton is rude, shrill, arrogant and divisive. The last thing we need, while facing military disasters in Afghanistan and Iraq, a recession, global warming and the contempt of the world is more triangulation, hardball and bickering.

She boasts of her wisdom. The Iraq War, NAFTA, allowing the slaughter of 800,000 Rwandans and blocking the UN from acting, cynically gutting the International Criminal Court then refusing to sign, selling out gays with Don't Ask, Don't Tell and the Defense of Marriage Act, doing nothing about climate change and dependence on foreign oil might seem wise to the Hillarites, but not to me.

Obama's interpersonal skills and judgment are far superior.

Sorry Hillary, early name recogntion and DLC support got you up and running, but when things got though, you and Bill got real nasty quick. Maybe some of that good old fashioned fervor and barking would have been better spent attacking GWB the past few years instead of DEM PREZ candidates. Much like Nader run for prez (what a joke, unleash the CD bloggeristas) and Old Hickory PT II McCain's quest for 100 yrs of war/occupation in the ME, it's an old worn script and we're done and sick of it. What Obama is saying is not what he has done, it appears that he's saying he will support those that will do what's right - at least that's what I AND MANY OTHERS HOPE. 2008 vote against the GOP war/occupation machine. C'mon, they've been wrong about Iraq since the start, 2 Billion a week for a big lie, that doesn't include the deaths and wounded and destruction of our service members and those in that "live" in Iraq. Heck of a job W and enabling Democrats, end the war/ocupuation. Democrat mailers asking for more money via mail, my cash is off the table along with impeachment.

"It feels even yuckier when they get away with it. I mean, why am I cheering for Obama? WTF is that? Neo-liberalism is the Left hand of Empire."
-- Cranky_Chatter

"Yuckier", yeah it was a feeling like that during a previous State of the Union address when Obama was part of the Cheney/Bush entourage.

...organize locally, organize locally, organize locally...I'm starting to see the light Maureen.

I agree that the first post has cured of me of any Clinton nostalgia. Before this campaign, I actually thought a Billary presidency would be a good idea - you know, Bill as a kind of Diana-like figure - going out and doing good deeds - then I remembered all the ways in which Clinton screwed us - welfare reform, Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Defense of Marriage Act, bombing Kosovo, not acting in Rwanda, NAFTA, GATT, bombing Sudan, bombing Iraq on a daily basis (remember the Madeline Albright statement that the death of one million Iraqi children might be the price we have to pay for freedom?), even our supposedly healthy economy under Clinton saw lots of poor folks pushed out of their homes in my own city, never to return... it could go on... Now after their antics, I see that while no one could be as bad as Bush/Cheyney, Clinton was pretty bad - he played with the right (but when sharks see blood they go into a feeding frenzy, which they did), and he screwed the poor, racial minorities and queers as well as much of the world's population outside of the US. Wasn't it during his presidency that the WTO and World Bank became the powerhouses that they are today? Hillary would be more of the same.

Obama might be more of the same as well, but the difference is that his ability to inspire the masses may backfire and there may be a real movement for change in this country. If people go out and vote for Obama in the numbers they have been voting, perhaps we can see a real progressive movement with a democratic Congress as well and strong democratic support for reform in this sadly disintegrating country.

We need to take back the public airwaves and take back our country!

Evolution now!

Hillary tried to Shock and Awe the Democratic primary voters, but Barack's insurgent campaign has triumphed in the end.

Next week, we should wave goodbye to Hillary, and get on to the business of Old Insane McCain. This guy just changed 'communists' to 'islamofascists' in his mind, and thinks the Cold War has never ended. An aging Empire trying to control Middle East oil as global oil production peaks is not some comic book battle against 'evildoers'. I realize the Bible Belt is too stupid to be educated, but the rest of the country should be able to see through the Republican 'rah rah Victory' ploy.

Let's get on with the 21st century, this November.

It really doesn't matter what campaign strategy Hillary did/does or didn't/doesn't pursue. The fact is, she halped enable the Iraq invasion. For that reason, she is unfit for the White House. The sooner the Democrats acknowledge they have a once-in-a-liftime winner in Obama and free him up to take on McCain as only he can do, the better for them and our country.

After thirty years of voting, I have to say that this has been one of the most interesting presidential races I've ever seen. Back in the very beginning of this campaign year before anyone had announced their intention to run, it was clear that Hillary Clinton was going to throw her hat into the ring. While the prospect of a strong female candidate in the race appealed to my feminist side, I had been watching Hillary Clinton's political career with a growing sense of disillusionment for some time. Her vote on the Iraq War authorization became the first of many of her decisions that caused me to doubt that Hillary was the kind of person or leader I once hoped she might be.

When the Democratic field was finally formed, I was pretty impressed with the variety of candidates. There was Dennis Kucinich...I've always liked his progressive views, but at the same time I have always felt that he lacked the skills as a statesman that would help him achieve a broader appeal. Mike Gravel...a new name to me. I liked his bluntness in calling out the other candidates on issues. Chris Dodd...a familiar name, but not someone whose positions I knew well. Joe Biden...another familiar face. He's always struck me as a pretty straight shooter. Barack Obama...never heard of him. I was pleased to see an African-American in the field, but my first impression of Obama was that he was rather stiff and had a hard time getting his point across succinctly in the early debates. Bill Richardson...someone else I had never heard of before. John Edwards...I've always found Edwards' populist message appealing, but from the beginning I've struggled to mentally disconnect Edwards from the horrible Kerry campaign. And, of course, there was Hillary Clinton, who gave every appearance of someone confident that this was going to be her year.

But it seemed to me that from the very beginning, all of the candidates, campaign coordinators and talking heads underestimated the impact that the Iraq War was going to have on this election. The illusion of the moment was that the "surge" was working. There was a lot less talk about the war in the major media. But I hadn't forgotten, and apparently I wasn't the only one. When I looked at the candidates, I saw four U.S. senators (Dodd, Biden, Clinton & Edwards) and one state governor (Richardson) who all supported the invasion of Iraq in 2002. For me, the Iraq War is not the deciding factor in terms of who I'll vote for. But regardless of their current position on the war or on withdrawl, or whether they apologized for it or stood by it, that initial vote demonstrated either a lapse in judgement or a willingness to sacrifice principle to political ambition. Either way, it permanently colored my perception of all five of those candidates and narrowed the field considerably.

So, for me at least, Hillary's campaign was over before it began. Her demeanor over the last few weeks and the schizophrenic way she's run her campaign have only served to validate that decision. I'm disappointed that she's not the kind of candidate, senator or leader I once hoped she would be. But I'm glad that she will not be the next president.

Clinton was never the frontrunner. She bought the name that was affirmed by a willing political pundit class. Obama picked up as many or more delegates on every day so far. She wasn't the frontrunner in head to head match ups with each Republican during the last year. That was Edwards. If John Edwards' name had been uttered each day by the political reporters and attached to the word 'frontrunner,' then today we would be having a contest between Obama and Edwards, and Clinton would have dropped out with Dodd and Biden. Clinton's name and connections to the Money Party bought her the pundit crown. Now these pundits aren't missing a beat and blame Clinton, instead of admitting their predictions were wrong. They repeated her name and then took polls. Wash rinse repeat. That's how propaganda works. She was chosen for us by them. HAHA HAHA. The people rise.