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Lessons of Internment
Nearing 87 years old, Yuri Kochiyama lives in a small room in an Oakland, Calif., senior living facility. Her walls are adorned with photos, posters, postcards and mementos detailing a living history of the revolutionary struggles of the 20th century. She is quiet, humble and small, and has trouble at times retrieving the right word. Yet, with a sparkle in her eyes, she has no trouble recalling the incredible history of the struggle for social justice in the 20th century. She recalls the history not from books, not from documentaries, but from living it, on the front lines.
February marks a coincidence of anniversaries in Kochiyama's incredible life: 66 years ago, on Feb. 19, 1942, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066, authorizing the mass internment of Japanese-Americans. Then there is Feb. 21, 1965, the day Malcolm X was assassinated at the Audubon Ballroom in New York City.
Kochiyama was a young woman living with her parents in San Pedro, Calif., when Pearl Harbor was attacked. Within hours, her father was arrested by the FBI. She recalled:
"[The FBI agents] said, 'Is there a Seichi Nakahara living here?' I said, 'He just came home from ulcer surgery.' And they went in and got him-it was done so quickly, it didn't even take a half of a minute, I don't think. And I didn't dare ask a question. They were going out the door immediately. And then, I just called my mother, who was right down the street to say, 'Come home quick. The FBI just came and took Pop.'"
He was taken to the San Pedro Hospital, where U.S. sailors and Marines who had been injured in the Japanese attacks were also being treated. Kochiyama's father was the only person of Japanese descent in the hospital. They put him in a bed behind a sheet marked "Prisoner of War." Kochiyama recalled what her mother said: "When she saw the reaction of all the American [patients] who were just brought in from Wake Island, she didn't think he was going to last. And so, she asked the head of that hospital, could he be given a room by himself, and then when he was feeling better, could they take him ... to the prison, because that hospital, she said, was probably worse than prison, because here were all these Americans who had been injured."
He was released six weeks later, returned home in a state of extreme illness. Kochiyama recalls: "He came home, it was around dinnertime, 5:30. And they had a nurse come with him. And by the next morning, she woke us up and said, 'He's gone.'" Her father had died.
Yuri and the rest of her family were rounded up and sent to Rohwer Camp in Arkansas as part of the internment of more than 120,000 Japanese-Americans. Nearly 70,000 of them were U.S. citizens. She spent more than two years imprisoned there. She married after her release, and she and her family eventually moved to Harlem, N.Y.
Yuri was a changed woman. Her experience made her aware of the lack of justice suffered not only by Asian-Americans, but by African-Americans and Latinos as well. She met Malcolm X in 1963. They became friends and allies. He sent her postcards from his transformative trip to Africa. She was in the audience at the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem when he was shot.
She ran up onto the stage: "Malcolm had fallen straight back, and he was on his back. And so I just went there and picked up his head and just put it on my lap. People ask, 'What did he say?' He didn't say anything. He was just having a difficult time breathing. I said, 'Please, Malcolm, please, Malcolm, stay alive.' But he was hit so many times."
Malcolm X's assassination propelled Kochiyama further into a life committed to the struggle for social justice, human rights, racial equality and prisoner rights. She is a staunch supporter of Mumia Abu-Jamal, who has lived on death row in Pennsylvania for a quarter of a century.
As the Bush administration asserts its authority to detain "enemy combatants" without charge, and zealots in Congress hatch plans to round up 12 million people accused of being "illegal aliens" (100 times the number of Japanese-Americans interned), we all have timely lessons to learn from Yuri Kochiyama.
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Show AllBravo. More articles like this and less slagging Chavez with no backing evidence, please. Thanks.
Thank you for your tireless reporting Amy. I listen via KPFA in S.F. and I wake up to you (yes, I pledged). Sometimes your headlines make me want to stay in bed. But then hearing your interviews (I heard Ms. Kochiyama yesterday, Willie Nelson today) with people who tell history unfilitered by mainstream media, always get me up to see what I can do to share in the struggles.
Amy Goodman, (you find a good man in the most unexpected places!) is a true American and international hero. With her cohorts, Jeremy Schahill and Juan Gonzalez, she makes us believe in America a little more. She does speak the truth to power, and she is tireless. If you really want the news, listen to Amy on KPFA. If we had a dozen journalists like this, America would be a different place. Democracy Now!
We Love you Amy!
Go AMY and YURI -- You're both heroines of American, and make the dream come alive. Thank you, bless you.
Namaste … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … Mahatma Gandhi … … … … … … … … … …
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It's absolutely tragic and terrible what Yuri Kochiyama amd her family endured during WWII. War is hell, for all sides.
Yet with all due respects, I humbly disagree with the parallels that Amy Goodman makes here. The Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, unprovoked, in an aim to crush and dominate the USA. They were eager Axis partners with Hitler. The Japanese treated U.S. prisoners of war arguably more viciously than the Nazis (Bataan Death March comes to mind). What would you do if your Navy, out of nowhere, was pulverized by a foreign power? You'd take every possible measure (including unfortunately, rounding up folks descended from the attacking country in case they might be foreign agents) to defend yourself.
I totally agree with her criticism of the 'enemy combatant' category the Bush fascists implement. It's wrong, and utterly flies in the face of hundreds of years of habeous corpus--in fact going back to the Magna Carta, an English charter issued in 1215 which is the earliest source of our nation's Constitutional Law. But the comparison is misleading and wrongheaded.
Amy needs to try to put history into perspective. The USA was REELING from a MASSIVE unprovoked attack that obliterated so much of the U.S. Navy, and left so many good American brothers and sisters dead and/or severely wounded.
It's so easy, decades on from the fact, to criticize what America did in the hours and days after a vicious attack by the Japanese. It's unfair and wrongheaded to compare what FDR did and try to compare it to what the Bush/Cheney administration of true war criminal profiteers are doing. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was (by the vast majority of established Presidential historians and not just my opinion) to be one of the greatest (in the top 5) Presidents of all time. I think Amy Goodman is a great journalist overall, but the parallels she makes here are simply not useful or accurate.
Zam . . . beware the history koolaid . . .
Zam, why do you not extend the US reaction to Dec 7 with our reaction to 9/11 Both attacks unprovoked, thousands dead, I see similiar reactions
nellemason: re: the history koolaid - very potent indeed. Zam, how about the U.S. reaction to the Gulf of Tonkin? Both attacks unprovoked, millions dead. I see similar reactions.
Japanese Interment and Malcom X ??? I'm not sure I get the point of the article... Round up the blacks first?
BTW ZAM...the US had provoked the Japanese by denying them access to resources..namely oil.
Oh blah blah blah.
One thing I notice in the followups - folks who masturbate about American Values. 'True American' and such phrases. What a load of old crap.
To the extent that American Values are those presented by its GOVERNMENT (because a State exists only because it is governed), "American Values" are the same as "French Values", "Australian Values", "English Values" or "Nazi Values".
Nationalism - even the soft stupid nationalism of people who become teary-eyed at the thought of how fucking Noble it is to be a Real American - is half of the root of all inhumanity. The other half is the vermin - Homo Cheneyensis - who exploit that soft nationalism to further their own ends.
The other thing is that you all take yourselves FAR too seriously. You're all earnest - thinking that working within a system will change it. FUCK THAT.
In "The Third Man" was a piece of dialogue about which I have almost become obsessed: in it I see the difference between myself and Henry Kissinger, writ large.
It goes soemthing like
"Victims? Don't be melodramatic. Look down there. Tell me. Would you really feel any pity if one of those dots stopped moving forever? If I offered you twenty thousand pounds for every dot that stopped, would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money, or would you calculate how many dots you could afford to spare?"
To Homo Cheneyensis (not actually a part of Genus Homo, but let's let that slide for the moment), we are just dots.
You might think "Well, I'm not a dot. Nor is my nearest and dearest. We're True Merkins..."
Think a-fucking-gain. You, me, the Afghan tribesman celebrating his skinny daughter's wedding to the young chap who is tight with the warlords... we are ALL dots. Becauae Cheney (and Blair, and Sarkozy, and the rest of their breed) don't give a fuck if you're Merkin, Slovak, Afghan or whatever-the-fuck... they just needs their garmonbozia.
This is why I have taken a page from H.L. Mencken's playbook. I can't be bothered getting irate at the willingness of Boobus Americanus (or Australis, or any of the other varieties of booboisie) to let themselves be raped by the Cheneys of the world. So I have a few drinks, check in on what the Web-intelligentsia is saying, and laugh like a hyena.
Me - I live in a region of France that is famous for having had a sign that said "Ici, vous quittez la France; vous entrez dans l'Auvergne" - "you are leaving France, and entering Auvergne". No respecter of naitonal pieties, the Auvergnat... like most mountain dwellers (the Swiss, for example).
The Auvergnat are a stout, hardy people - like the Vendéens and the Occitans. And the Aussies (I'm an Aussie).
I bet if you asked 100 Auvergnat who was President of the US, less than 5 would be able to tell you the inbred cokehead who leads the land of the Scared.
There are local halls older than the US (or Australia) dotted all over Europe. The hall in our village has 1374 carved into ita lintel.... Europe was bathing in blood when the US was not even a concept (and Straya was not known to exist except by vikings and Samoans). It is a wise and stupid place.
And in fifty years when the US has ceased to be, nobody will care if their grand-dad was a True Merkin. .
A merkin is, after all, just a pubic wig.
So mote it be, globally...
With all my very best
GT
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Zamboni: The Pearl Harbour attack was not unprovoked. The fact that you say so, makes you a learner instead of a teacher. So go learn because you are waaaay behind. Most people who have taken the trouble to look into the history know you are wrong. If you blog at Fox news you might be able to get some sympathy.I doubt you have much credibility here. Please do make an effort, at present you evoke pity, but no respect.
Zamboni illustrates perfectly the gross defficiency of the American educational sytem. US teachers get an F.
GT: Good post sir!
Indiscriminate internment of entire populations are crude solutions to problems that generally require pin-point action. History has shown them to be more trouble than even the temporary crisis they may have solved. In this time of Bush crime family misdeeds, Goodman's reminder of a bad error from another time is apt.
Thanks Amy and special thanks Yuri- those of you who do not get it- Transom- are you sure you are in the right forum?
nothing you say has any relevance here- could visit Democracy Now and read the transcript or watch the video. Yuri Kochiyama is one of the most amazing womym i ever heard about. A very long life, always devoted to to peace and social justice.
when i googled her i got all kinds of stuff, all good. One of them was called "Yuri you are sooooooo Gangsta"
I still remember Amy Goodman's conversation on the air with Bill Clinton. How dare she put the great man on the spot.
Geoffrey, how right on your post. And I loved your use of the F word for effect. It gave me the chills.
I offer this from Jon Kabat-Zinn........"What is at stake, finally, is none other than our very hearts, our very humanity, our species, and our world. What is available to us is the full spectrum of who and what we are. What is required is nothing special, simply that we start paying attention and wake up to things as they are. All else will follow."
Heil.
Zamboni wrote: "The Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, unprovoked, in an aim to crush and dominate the USA."
How absolutely true - as long as your take on history starts on the morning of 7th December 1941.
My family name was Schick (German). We were not interned during WWII. Neither were the Marinos, Sopranos, or other Italians. Where was the equal justice for all?
The German-Americans were discriminated against mainly during WWI, not WWII. In Minnesota alone:
http://www.mnhs.org/library/tips/history_topics/98safety.html
In addition to the removal of German statuary:
http://collections.mnhs.org/visualresources/image.cfm?imageid=98665&Page=2&Keywords=germania&Type=Photo&SearchType=Basic
...the frowning of teaching German at schools, conducting church services in German -- there was also biased attempts at prohibition.
The Chicago beer lager riots:
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/703.html
...for instance were the direct result of anti-german and anti-irish biased ordinances/laws.
I am always bemused by our historical ignorance.
Just months prior to WWII, my parents, both Americans born and bred, tried desperately to remove us (including me) from the Philippine Islands because they knew war was coming. They knew this because of information given to Americans by the Chinese.
The Japanese were in diplomatic talks with the US at the time as even as the Japanese envoy was closeted with the US diplomats, the attack on Pearl Harbor and Clark's Field in the Philippine Islands had commenced.
The American government denied any Americans except diplomatic corp families to leave the Philippine Islands as it would show a "lack of faith in the negotiations with the Japanese in Wash., DC".
As a consequence when the Japanese took over the PI (Philippine Islands), thousands of Americans (and Australians, Brits and New Zealanders) were "interned". "Internment" meant starvation, torture, and death to thousands of "Internees" by the Japanese troops who made sure not one man, woman or child left the camps.
I was in two concentration camps, one in Santo Thomas and one in Los Banos. The consequences of the US govs duplicity and the inhumanity practiced by the Japanese were not lost on me as a child when I saw the descretations of human bodies and spirits or as an adult when I understood better the history.
I have to go to work. This is all part of "hidden history", a part of our lives as Americans. I hope not one of you thinks we are a "good" nation, governmentally speaking. En masse we aren't too hot either.
Pearl Harbor, 9/11 both terrible tragedies. Unprovoked? Wakeup and
Start to understand what things your government as done both overtly and covertly in you name.
It really upsets me when Americans try and play the innocent card.. Some of the biggest terrorist operations are run right out of Washington.
In this day of the internet,when you are going to make excuse for U.S. government actions,ingnorance is no excuse..
Amy,
I just finished a Unit on the Japanese American Internment with my 7th grade Social Studies students in Washington State. We are located in a place near Bainbridge Island where a many of these Americans were taken away to camps. My students were so moved by what happened and many of these young people could relate what they see happening now in our country to what happened then. We talked about due process and the Bill of Rights for days on end. I was deeply moved by their reactions. Our youth of today are not stupid. It gives me hope (oh,Obama)!
Zamboni_fahrer - I beg to disagree. Pearl Harbor, is in Hawaii. If some type of roundup were necessary, why weren't the Japanese Americans interned, transported or relocated from Hawaii? The whole process was racist and of no strategic or tactical value whatsoever.
A similar despicable act was also carried out by the Canadians, and unfortunately, their actions seem to have been even worse than the US. Almost all property of the internees was confiscated, and they were forced to pay the government for their internment. Then after the war, the internees were given the choice of a ticket to Japan (deportation) although many had never even been to Japan, having been born in and lived their entire lives in Canada, or removal to east of the Rockies. This was upheld in the Canadian Supreme Court. These people were not granted the right to return to home to B.C. until 1949.
I don't believe that anyone has shown that there was any instance of disloyalty, sabotage or other acts planned or committed by any Japanese American or Canadian during WW2.
You are trying to defend the indefensible. But then that's what many Americans do all the time with respect to our government's actions.
Good posts everybody.
lizard: "Zamboni illustrates perfectly the gross defficiency of the American educational sytem. US teachers get an F."
My what a broad brush you have, lizard. Most of your paintings are dreck, however.
Pearl Harbor has nothing in common with 9-11. Except perhaps for this: the Project for a New American Century wanted a war with Iraq, and realized they could not sell it to the american people without some catastrophic event "what we need is a new Pearl Harbor" they said. Then there were the airplanes flying into the wtc. while it was nothing at all like Pearl Harbor, they said "Look it's a new Pearl Harbor!" and so now they could do all the military mayhem they wanted to. anywhere. the attack had not come from another country, not Iraq, and not Afghanistan. so they were basically free to hit anyplace there might be a suspected terrorist, or any country in which a suspected terrorist might be found. that's how the "war on terrorism" was invented. if you believe there is such a thing, or even that it is possible, I guess you could believe that hokey "Pearl Harbor" thing too. Tell it to Tinkerbell.