So, the republicans staged a walkout? With a little luck, maybe they'll do their country a favor and keep right on going!

Reminds me of when the Dems were trying to stop the assault weapons ban from and expiring and the 'Publickins were debating about Terry Schiavo. It's so obvious who the law-abiding adults are in Congress.

Total silence on this at CNN.com and WashPost.com.

Maybe the Republicans can make a habit of this. The Congress can get so much more work done without the obstructionists.

Just trust King George and AG Mukasey to do the right thing, and get on with the eavesdropping bill to protect the American people from the terrorists.

After about a year of neglect on the part of the Dem. House leadership, the Dems did what had to be done to preserve the Constiutional system (oversight of Executive criminal behavior and cover-up thereof).

The Republicans' unflinching brazeness presents a real teaching moment. Knowing they will lose the vote, the Republs in the House boycott the vote. The Administration refuses to enforce. "Politics is war by other means" is their motto. Democracy, rule of law, checks and balances, etc. are just words to garner legitimacy for elite rule.

I wish they would walkout permanantly along with the 32 Bush-Dog Dems that voted "No".

We see who the repugnicants are siding with, and it sure as hell isn't the people.

House Dems: Now hold the line on pre-emptive telephone company pardons. Anything else makes a mockery of the rule of law.

"If Congress doesn't act to enforce the subpoenas, said Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the No. 2 Democrat, it would 'be giving its tacit consent to the dangerous idea of an imperial presidency, above the law and beyond the reach of checks and balances.'"

Ditto for impeachment.

Well the Dems grew some raisins, but they aren't nads yet. Pelosi looked like she was about to barf when she had to admit she was flying in the face of public opinion. Was this just a ploy to make House members seem as un-treasonous as the Senate when the Senate rolled over (on all of us) by approving retroactive immunity for the illegal collusive spying on the American people, by allowing bulk data mining? Although a corporate giant I hope QWEST eats the lunch of ALL the other telecoms...those traitors to the Constitution & American people.

Go directly to jail, Bolten and Miers, and drag Cheney, Bush, & their whole gang of imperious thugs with you!!!

The repugs would rather create more laws serving the powerful that can be potentially used against we the people than go after the corrupt people in power. That is one of the major differences of the parties.

The GOP walkout reminds me the same tactic was used by the Venezuelan Opposition on several occasions. Looks like their foreign and domestic policy playbooks are the same.

Blah-Blah-Blah-Blah-Blah!

It's all words, games, and childishness.
If nothing changes--nothing changes.

"We The People" are STILL not represented!

Too bad they don't throw in an Impeachment vote while the 'loyal' opposition is gone?

Did Nancy drag this out until FISA expired?

The Senate already has rendered itself irrelevant by its vote in favor of letting the telecoms off the hook for breaking the law merely because the Pres. asked them to.

So, what then did the Senate do? It sat around making more laws.

KERNEL: You want we should just trust King George and A. G. Mukasey to do the right thing? Now, why would we do that? Based on what?

The Dems should've walked out when presented with Bush's "stimulus" package. Their participating was obviously symbolic rather than substantitive.

If the Dems had walked out, the SP wouldn't have differed much from Bush's.

Anyway, why didn't Congress initiate their own economic response to the recession? The Prez's package should've been discussed AFTER Congress developed their own approach to the problems.

It's not up to the President lay down his proposals and, at the same, threaten to veto any Congressional plans that don't fit into his pronuncios.

We have same non-Constitutional, authoritarian, top/down approach to declaring war. Declaring war is supposed to be the purview of Congress.

Watch for the Bushcos to really ratchet rhetoric toward Iran and possibly Syria - the only two objectives not achieved from the PNAC

Isn't it about time? This is only the first step to protecting the Constitution though...that IS what they took an oath to, right?

"Republicans said Democrats should instead be working on extending a law - set to expire Saturday - allowing the government to eavesdrop on phone calls and e-mails in the United States in cases of suspected terrorist activity."

It is richly ironic that the GOP, who made it one of their priorities to change the name of french fries to 'freedom fries', is lecturing the Dems on legislative priorities.

America has let me down more than words can express, but I will try.

Growing up in America, we are lied to about everything; our history, our holidays, and our helping other countries around the world, to name a few.

When I found out a lie, each time, it was like a knife in my chest and a pain in my stomach.

Now, well aware of the disaster this very younger country has become, I am at a loss.

Almost weekly, the government is destroying our country, right before our eyes.....while we can do nothing, but vote out our Reps and Senators....who play money games with the best.

It is time for the Declaration of Independence to be realized, though I have no idea how to do this, but to enact a civil uprising.

Aren't there "cops" that can jail Myers and Bolten. Why doesn't the congress just utilize this "right"?

Maybe, because most are p%$$y's.

Let us remember the passion of the creation of this country;

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Corey Mondello
Boston, Massachusetts
2-14-08
www.CoreyMondello.com

While it is nice that the House is going to hold the two bush people in contempt, I doubt that it will have any weight cuz anything that they do, bush can undo with a pardon.

Anyway, this is the same congress that has deferred to bush on EVERYTHING that he wanted.

You wait, the House will bow to bush and let the telecom companies off the hook for illegally spying on Americans.

I have lost faith that the democrats will ever stand up to bush.

If they had any backbone, then impeachment proceedings would have already started.

To: CPMONDELLO

your commentary has hit a chord with me. Maybe it is time to take up arms against the government and take back our country. Obviously nothing is going to change after this next election. Look at the vote on the FISA bill. McCain voted for the FISA bill letting the telecom companies off the hook. Senators Clinton & Obama didn't bother to vote on the FISA bill. The future looks very bleek for our Constitutional rights.

My fellow Americans, keep your powder dry! The time for revolution is at hand!

And just when I thought the Congress and Senate Democrats had all been neutered. Maybe Obama's surge is giving them some backbone. Whatever the reason, it's high time they stood up for us and said, "Enough!" to the adminstration. What can be next? Waxman's got a lot he could bring to the forefront to demand accountability.

Testicular implant surgery? What a concept! Bush informing Congress on just he will and will not do, re: legislation, is coo-coo for cocoa puffs.

Beware King George may dissolve Congress. Declare its members "Terrorists", and order them shot on sight, and then tried by a military tribunal "in absencia".......

If anyone in the public sector behaved like this bunch we would out of a job in a New York minute. BE ALERT::: NOVEMBER is close and we can FIRE A GOODLY NUMBER OF THEM.

I had a dream that both Cheney and his puppet Bush were
arrested, transfered to gitmo and were guarded by experts
at waterboarding and militant muslims

The proper charge is TREASON.

Anything else is insufficient, a betrayal of the America People and a dereliction of duty on behalf of congress.

If they don't do it then we must remove them and do it ourselves.

Or we can just surrender to a police state, turn in our guns and hand them our children to go and die for the profits of big business. Because they surely aren't dying for freedom, liberty or justice because we sure as hell don't have much of any of those things left in this doomed, cowardly nation.

Since we now know that waterboarding (filling the lungs with water until near-drowning - under the casual supervision of a doctor - then bringing the subject back just before death) is NOT TORTURE, we must waste no time in using this "civil" procedure on these two model citizens to ensure that we are able to extract an accurate account of what they know.

After we gain admissions from them, it should be fairly easy to move higher up the ranks (using the same approach) until we have a fairly accurate portrayal of ALL that has been done to our country over the past 7+ years - including a better picture of who and what caused 9/11 and the subsequent, premeditated dismantling of our beloved Constitution.

Too bad it's not a genuine St Valentine's Day Massacre between the two criminal gangs (congress vs administration) but maybe it's a start.

Wish I could have been there to hold the door open. This is a strange strategy for those who so loudly espouse their toughness.

When all else fails and defeat is imminent...RUN!!

Too bad they don't throw in an Impeachment vote while the 'loyal' opposition is gone?

Good point!! Why not!! It could happen. Keep up the assault on Conyers office, make it impossible for him to do any work!! Yeah!! He's whining HE wants more support - I find it childish, immature and infuriating - but hey! Let's give him his "rationale" Shut down Washington DC for GOOD on March 10th until the RePUGs cannot stand it anymore. I am not excusing the dems - but they know that they MUST act under Geneva.

As for the Declaration of Independence - I wrote my own about a month ago about the indignities I have endured since 1993. I suggest others do likewise. I will publish anyone who writes on right up there on my site!! I think that this is terribly important.

And I think we need to tell people in clear language how to file complaints with the international criminal court! The time is NOW.

Take the impeachment war crimes swicki off my site and SPREAD IT AROUND.

http://ladybroadoak.blogspot.com/search?q=declaration+of+independence

there's a whole ball of wax to get you all started. LOL

Can't Pelosi put some manners on those damn Blue Dogs. One comes from my area but not in my district. He beat Sherwood who spend his time in Washington beating up his girl friend. Of course he paid her off ($500,000) so she would drop the charges. He lost the election to this jerk who has done nothing but vote with Bush. Thinks it will win him a second term. Ha. Two guys are already running advs. tell us how GOP right wing they are so no matter how this idiot votes he will lose this year to a GOP because the district is very heavy right wing GOPs.
He should be told no money from the Dems for is campaign, put him on the outhouse committee and use one of the stalls for his office. It's called hardball. Playing nice has got them nowhere. All Blue Dogs are playing this game and its passed time to hammer them.

I wish they would all walk out and keep on walkin.

keep on walking - long walk, short dock.

about goddamn time............

MRFORD

Obama did vote, Clinton did not. Look at

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00019

for the tally. See all the Dems who voted Yea. Graham and Clinton were the two non-voting Senators. I'm proud to say that my two Senators here in NJ voted Nay. Only 28 Dems and the great Bernie Sanders of VT voted Nay.

ya got to realize the country has at least since the murder of JFK been run by this cabal that run the drugs guns gamboling prostitution etc.allied with expanding corporate personhood have come under the microscope of the free speech internet with exponentially increasing computer power having given "the people " the power of analysis to see into all these state frauds/like the physics of free fall showing 9/11/01 events in NYC to be controlled demolitions isn't going to go away//this doubling now every year of the power of the CPU becomes the overwhelming society changing force in ways that were difficult for the original perpetrators to have foreseen//a lot of old crimes are going to be visible in the web of ever more powerful expert systems

What underlies all these arguments, all these petty fights between "our" Congress and this administration is the single, unassailable fact: unless this Congress orders articles of impeachment brought against this president and this entire administration, America will continue to slide to a fully fascist state.
As quoted a few days ago:
""There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part; you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!" — Mario Savio.
It is time for the American people to STAND UP.

Finally, the Democrats in the House took one tiny step for mankind. Good for the Dems! To Speaker Pelosi and the rest of the members who voted for the contempt citations, I say congratulations and thank you for listening to your constituents and for seeking to restore some semblance of constitutional propriety and enforcement of the laws of this country. Now Don't Back Down. Again. Ever.

If Bush and Cheney and Mukesey continue to defy the Constitution and to refuse to abide by and/or enforce the laws, impeach them. And Don't Back Down. Again. Ever.

Just because it doesn't realy mean anything doesn't mean it isn't important. There's word that the Senate wiretap bill will be allowed to die in congress rather than bring it to a vote.

The president is yelping about how he is now powerless to prevent an "enemy attack" asa result. Beware of false flag incidents in the planning. Still 11 months till these mad people can be legally retired. May our republic recover from Bush-Clinton-Bush-Reagan-Carter-Nixon-Johnson.

The question we must demand answers to is "How has your decision on (what ever issue) inspired, engendered, supported the trust we have placed in you to keep us, the public, informed and apprised of the actions of our governments, agencies, appointees and elected representatives?" Odds are there are damned few who could or wold attempt an answer to this essential question. Trust is THE central tenet of a successful and free democracy.

Peregrine,
If you as I, believe that 9-11 was an inside job,I have some
info that you'll find informative. e-mail me at jerryc-1939@msn.com

Maybe they should just lock the door behind them and not let them back in.

The time to attack is when they're in retreat. ;-)

IMPEACH BUSH & CHENEY! Bring charges against Rice, Powell, Yoo, Addington, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Gonzalez, Myers-- the lot of 'em. Bring Justice back to America.

I thought I would throw up last night watching snippets of our so-called representatives so seriously and thoroughly investigating...this or that sports scandal. I felt like I was in a looking-glass world. Baseball steroids? Football videos? I just wanted to scream.

Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.

Jail 'em all. The Nazi bastards.

Congress has something far more important than FISA or Meiers/Bolton. Namely, finding out if Roger Clemens used steroids. NYtimes front page.