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Tide Turns To Positive as E-mails Flood Town Offices in Support of Resolution to Indict Bush, Cheney
BRATTLEBORO, VT -- More than 7,000 e-mails later, the verdict is in.
The majority of people who felt the need to communicate to the town their thoughts on the indictment resolution forwarded to voters for their approval support the resolution.
At a Selectboard meeting on Jan. 25, the board voted 3-2 to forward the resolution calling for the arrests of both President George Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney if they ever find themselves in Brattleboro.
Though Town Manager Barbara Sondag said town staff hadn't tallied the e-mails in favor and those opposed to the indictment, the nasty e-mails the town had received in the first few days following the board's decision have tapered off.
Nevertheless, staff was reading each and every e-mail to determine if any were threatening.
"Those we thought were questionable, we have forwarded to the police department," she said, though she wouldn't consider any of them "a substantial threat."
It has taken up a lot of staff time to review the e-mails and take phone calls, she said, with the town clerk and her staff spending nearly 60 percent of their time answering phone calls about the resolution in the first few days.
The author of the resolution, Kurt Daims, said the e-mails to him have been split pretty evenly between those who support the resolution and those who don't.
"Most of the unfavorable mail is incoherent, obscene or violent."
He feels that can be attributed to the anonymity of e-mail and the ability to send correspondence rapidly, before it's reviewed, such as with a handwritten letter.
"There's a screen between them and those who receive it," he said.
He also received two phone calls. And though both disagreed with the resolution, the conversation was respectful, he said.
"People are so desperate and afraid of what our government is doing they're excited about anything that has the slightest chance of undoing it," he said. "When a long shot is the only thing you've got, you're a fool not to take it."
Along with the town, the five board members together have received more than 1,000 e-mails.
"The first day or two I was flooded with negative e-mails," said Selectboard Chairwoman Audrey Garfield.
Since those days, the quantity of e-mails has dropped to about six a day, she said, mostly positive.
"I've read nearly every single one that has come through on my e-mail," said board member Dora Bouboulis. "Two thirds is positive."
And while many of the senders did not support the indictment resolution, they did support the democratic process that gives town residents the ability to bring such a resolution to the Selectboard and allow people to cast their votes on it.
The first e-mails that board member Rich Garant received were overwhelmingly negative, he said, but just as with the town, those over the last few days have been in support of the resolution.
"The negatives tended to be personal attacks," he said, adding that many of the e-mails he received in support of the board's decision were veterans of both the Iraq and Vietnam wars.
For board member Dick DeGray, it wasn't the e-mails he received that bothered him. It was the pair of phone calls he received, which he called "somewhat unnerving."
"The e-mails were all over the spectrum," he said, and many of them expressed concern over the impact of the resolution on town staffers.
The town should consider taking the best and the worst of the e-mails and publishing a book that could be sold, helping to raise money for the town's coffers.
"That would be taking lemons and turning it into lemonade," said Ian Kiehle, who is running for Selectboard.
Daims said the indictment resolution would pass in many other towns around the nation if they had state policies similar to Vermont that allow voters to bring such efforts before their elected officials.
"I don't think Brattleboro people are unique," said Daims. "We represent a kind of progressive reaction to Mr. Bush (that's happening) all over the country."
"My vote was not about whether I agreed or disagreed with the content of the resolution," said Garfield. It was about honoring the nearly 500 Brattleboro voters who saw fit to sign Daims' petition, she said.
© 2008 Brattleboro Reformer



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Show AllIt should be noted that the town council of Cannon Beach, Oregon on the Oregon Coast (about 1500 residents) voted this week (also a 3-2 vote) to request the Oregon Congressional delegation commence impeachment proceedings against Bush and Cheney. The council vote was initiated after a petition (signed by about 225 people) asked for such a vote.
Now if only the rest of the country between Maine and Oregon would do the same.
Arrest both.
Indicting Bush and Cheney and arresting them for something or other is a FINE idea, AFTER they have been replaced at The White House by Democrats. Meanwhile, you have a more important election to be working on.
Next time I'm in Vermont, I'll stay a night in Brattleboro!
now, if the district of columbia will just pass the same resolution...
bush-935
democracy-1
gotta start somewhere.
thank you, Brattleboro, VT
I feel it is important that they be indicted. If there are no consequences to their actions people in power (government and corporate) will forever feel the entitlement to do anything they please no matter how many people it hurts or how illegal it may be. If the members of the Bush administration don't pay the abuses of power will only get worse no matter who's in charge. Also, with all the voter fraud that has occurred since 2000 (both computer ballots and more conventional fraud) it is not a sure thing that our votes will even be counted. With the computer voting machines a recount may not even be possible. The only thing that would reveal voter fraud would be a deep look at the computer's programming and circuitry. For that you need an investigation, and short of a Diebold Whistle Blower, we will never get that.
The failure of thousands of American towns and cities to follow the Brattleboro example is inexcusable and disgraceful. You either support war criminals or you don't. Ignoring the issue, as the MSM does, is support.
Good for the people of Brattleboro!! I need some more maple syrup. How can I order some from the good people of Brattleboro?
Maple syrup in Brattleboro?
You can mail order some from this place: http://brownfamilyfarmmaple.com/catalog/
Sorry the link didn't work.
I'm not surprised that your first mail responses were negative. I'm guessing that they were from people who follow their leader blindly and do not question his motives. They also could be from the apathetic Americans who really don't know our Constitution, and as long as they can come home to their beer and tv every night, let the government run the country as it pleases.
I wouldn't be surprised if the government had people regularly searching the for protest and dissent like yours, just so they could send immediate negative messages with violence threatened. After all, we have seen plenty of evidence that our wonderful president would like to root out and/or discourage dissent any way rhey can. Why else would he have started a secret spy campaign against the entire American public?
The Constitution is so clear on the division of powers and limited government that a sixth grader could understand it, and could see how Bush/Cheney have blatantly violated it over and over.
Why the Congress has been afraid to respond to this is beyond me. 90% of them, Democrats and Republicans both are a bunch of wimps who won't stand up for the Constitution either. If enough people were like this in 1776 we would still be part of the British Commonwealth.
You are the real patriots, with Bush,Cheney and "friends" the traitors.
Indicting Bush and Cheney and arresting them for something or other is a FINE idea, AFTER they have been replaced at The White House by Democrats. Meanwhile, you have a more important election to be working on.
Yassuh, head robot boss suh. I'll make sure to only challenge authority when my obvious betters tell me to do so. /snorts in derisive laughter
Of course the negative emails were "violent or incoherent" We're talking the knuckle draggers here . . . Rush Limbaugh's butt boys. If you are Republican, you simply aren't human.
I hear that a young boy named David slew a giant named Goliath with a small stone and a slingshot, while the mighty warriors on both sides jeered at his naivete. Three cheers for Vermont. If each of us did what little we could, following our consciences, who knows what we could accomplish?
Just think, if there was an arrest warrant out for the Bush Gang in every state and every country, they wouldn't dare leave DC. Then we get the Mayor of DC....
It's the small seemingly insignificant gestures like this that can ignite a major shift in consciousness that may spread throughout. A similar petition has started in my community. It might look silly and fruitless to some, but it could ignite a movement.
Brattleboro was the home of one of the first cooperatively owned restaurants, opening in 1968(?), called Common Ground. It was a great place for simple food, good music, conversation, and just hanging out. I think it may have recently closed, yet Brattleboro may end up being an inspiration and a symbol of our Common Ground.
What a courageous show of defiance against rogue authority. If the VP goes to Brattleboro to snarl "go f**k yourself" he'll be thrown in the slammer where he belongs. Remember - confrontation is the only language he understands. Anything else he interprets as your submission to his rule. He's seen plenty of evidence that Americans are willing to let him run roughshod all over them. This signals the kind of behavior that will work for him in the future.
Brattleboro's Chamber of Commerce should now send Bush and Cheney an invitation to speak to the good citizens of Brattleboro to talk about the importance of being earnest.
excerpt from the Declaration of Independence
"...all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
... is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries (Blackwater anyone?) to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
GO Brattleboro, VT!!!
In her entertainingly instructive "The United States of America vs. George W. Bush, et al"
Elizabeth de la Vega sets a hypothetical grand jury scene with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powell named as defendants charged with conspiracy to defraud the American people.
Good, fast-moving read.
Thanks Battleboro for not crumbling before the typical intimidation. The thing is some of our tax money is probably being used to do it. Oh yes, we pay for all kinds of stuff we would never support. Here and abroad. It's one of the downsides of having so many secret and covert agencies in your government, that are run by shady people who have no oversight.
Any way to get the Bush Crime Family and the Giants and Yankees on the same plane?....
Next will be a city, then a state, then the country. Hopefully then, justice will be served.
I think publishing a book of the emails is a great idea! A lot of people are not aware of how many "incoherent, obscene or violent" people there are out there who actually even know what email is.
"Most of the unfavorable mail is incoherent, obscene or violent.". Incoherent, obscene, and violent - an accurate description of the Bush administration and its supporters.
loutravieso's response provides a good example, illustrating the viciousness that fear can arouse.
The principal characteristic of supporters of the Bush administration is their complete lack of faith - lack of faith in our Constitution and system of government, lack of faith in the true principles of Christianity that so many of them claim to admire, and lack of faith in the American people.
loutravieso, please do not blow a valve! I was thinking about that "Go to Hell" thing. Maybe since yourside has such a grip on heaven maybe I would rather go to Hell.
loutravieso sez:
Before any of you speak, do you have someone in this liberal group is an expert in constutional law>????
The most obvious thing I note is that loutravieso him/herself hasn't managed to make it all the way through either the Constitution or the Declaration. For that matter, he obviously didn't understand the portion of the Declaration quoted in the article.
He advocates arrest and imprisonment based on Ideas. Not to mention that little side trip to HELL. His attitude is in clear violation of the Constitution he challenges US to understand and he espouses the exact sort of behaviour which prompted the founding fathers to commission Jefferson to write the declaration in the first place.
dear sweet loutrevieso,
actually, given all the citations to administer to the poor in the Gospels, it's actually those who you follow who are going to Hell, not us. but not to worry, Hell is just a construct designed to enslave obviously overtaxed brains such as yours. when was the last time you had a vacation? i hear the heathens over in Europe are faring much better than our delud- erm, god-fearing country is with that. toodles.
[L]outravieso is the reason for the saying, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
You are a model.
Can we set up the guillotine on the DC mall?
Sarah Ruth
Why won't you post my comments? I thought this was a free country that encouraged freedom of expression however I see that only applies to liberals that agree with the liberal media!!!
Here's a thought: CITIZEN'S ARREST!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen%27s_arrest
As an American Citizen I am disgusted by you nazi liberal socialist thoughts. If you people think this way, must want to move to a country where you are all alike. Maybe something like North Korea, Iran perhaps.
Why won't you post my comments? I thought this was a free country that encouraged freedom of expression however I see that only applies to liberals that agree with the liberal media!!!
Signed,
anonymous
Im done with your website
Someday, if we survive all this and want to avoid it in the future....there HAS to be some kind of test that detects sociopaths.
RegisteredRepublican: Don't go away mad...
John Freeman 3:26pm
There IS a test to detect sociopaths. If anyone can listen to Rush Limbaugh for more than five minutes and NOT have an adverse reaction - they are a sociopath.
Too bad the UN couldn't issue an international warrant for their arrest and force Bush and Cheney to stay in the USA in utter shame (or in some other rogue nation).
Registered Republican: who refused to post your comments? We all read them.
I was once run off of a conservative site for proving their illogic.
Is anyone running you off of this site? If you can stand the heat, you are welcome to stay.
You must be confused. "nazi-socialist-liberal" thoughts...
First of all, the nazis were conservative corporate pirates like the Bush admin...they hated socialism as much as Bush hates the idea of free health care for all children.
Secondly, what is wrong with a good social perspective in government? Socialim in moderation makes perfect sense. When you equate socialism with evil you become the fanatic.
Thirdly, the word liberal means liberty, as in the individual liberties your president GW Bush has been wantonly eroding since he took office!
Unplug FOX News, dust off your thesaurus, and get with the program pal!
Me too! I want to order something from Brattleboro. Must be some sort of town product
Bruce Fein, who helped draft articles of impeachment for both Nixon and Clinton, spoke in Ashland, Oregon last night. He spent the day talking with students at Southern Oregon University about our history, and about the Constitution, and about how it has been compromised by the Bush administration. He asked for no remuneration for his visit. I won't go into details because you all know the details of the devastation wrought by Bush & Co., but he said, in essence, that if we don't move to impeach Bush and Cheney, we risk permanent loss of our democracy. Those who are running for the Presidency today make no mention of returning power to the people. There is no talk of eliminating torture and closing Guantanemo, restoring the writ of habeas corpus, stopping illegal wiretapping. Presidence will have been set, and going forward, the executive branch of our government will have absolute power. There are many issues, the importance of which progressives argue with each other about. Bruce said none of them are as critical as insisting the Bush administration be made to account for their complete disregard for the Constitution. They have committed high crimes and misdemeanors, and Nancy Pelosi does not have the right to take impeachment off the table. The only way to move the legislative branch of our government is to make ourselves visible. Individual letters to your Congressional and Senate representatives (not mass emails) that say that you will not vote for them if they don't act, will make a difference, according to Bruce Fein. Picket Nancy Pelosi's offices. Take out ads in the paper. Write letters to the editors of all your local papers. Send petitions to your representatives. Insistance on impeachment will send a message to Washington that the People are taking back their government. If we don't act now, we may lose all that we hold dear.
We here in Brattleboro aren't experts, but we'd love to help. I'll be on the radio tonight around 9:05 at WBCR 97.7 FM just around GB, Massachusetts, and on www.berkshireradio.org streaming internet.
If Brattleboro does it, then it's a great gesture, and mostly symbolic, but other places catch on, it's really the beginning of the end for Bush. The media have concentrated on the more sensational part of the indictment, which is the putative arrest of B&C. The more portentous part is the drafting and publication of an indictment. When other more powerful jurisdictions see such a document, there is cause for action. Obviously I don't need to convince y'all of the symbolic value of this measure. But we're shooting ouselves in the foot if we prejudge its practical potential. Don't worry that it's not a legal document. The Declaration of Independence wasn't a legal document, either. If the day comes, don't you think a patriotic or progressive lawyer will bend or overlook or reinterpret the technicalities for the sake of national security, which is threatened more by Bush and Cheney than by anything outside our borders? Matters of law are decided not just by statutes, but also by politics, common law and ethics, and such cases are not all abstruse. (For example no one should expect to be convicted for stealing bandages to help the victim of an auto accident.) Hang on for a surprise. If Bush is not impeached, the actual implementation of the indictment will depend less on technicalities and more on the will of the people, and the will of the people grows stronger against Bush every day. Please think about it.
(Kurt Daims)
Bushindictment@gmail.com
" Daniel David February 6th, 2008 11:52 am
Indicting Bush and Cheney and arresting them for something or other is a FINE idea, AFTER they have been replaced at The White House by Democrats. Meanwhile, you have a more important election to be working on."
FALSE.
Those matters can be worked on at the same time; but then we don't have valid candidates anyway, that is, except for McKinney, Nader (if he runs), Gravel (if he's still running), Paul; or Kucinich, if or when voters choose to write his name on their ballots. And most voters aren't going to vote on valid candidates, so ....
Non-elite and therefore non-privileged citizens would be criminalised for matters not even half as bad as what many politicians represent; yet electorate mysteriously thinks that privileging some citizens, as well as non-citizens, and while criminalising other people for lesser crimes, sometimes not even real crimes (e.g., marijuana ...), is okay.
A minimally double-standards country it is, and voters pretend that voting for the lesser of two evils in the USA is not voting for evil; very nearly. Many admit it, and they thereby admit being complicit in the crimes of the U.S. in terms of more war of aggression and other crimes against Humanity.
Obama clearly stated his position in terms of the criminal threats against Iran and the U.S.-Israel hell reined in upon Palestinian and Lebanese populations, as well as threats against Syria; and he, Obama, was strongly in favour of all of this hellbent criminality against Humanity's innocent and too or very defenceless populations.
He hasn't retracted those statements, and neither has Billary, for she's definitely no better.
And no sane, honest, and informed politician or group representative can get away with such criminality; not even all incompetence of non-criminal nature is acceptable for group representation. And if Obama was and is incompetent enough to not be able to realise that both of his above stands are very criminal, then he's also proven himself to be unfit in terms of only judging competence level. But I don't think he was and is as hellishly ignorant as this; there's awareness on his part, surely.
Either way, he's proven himself to be unfit for as long as he does not correctly retract those criminal stands.
"THE (WHOLE) WORLD IS A STAGE".
Now, where do you think politics is in that "picture"?
Try 'front'. Politics, (sort of) like idiots believing they're voting in a democracy of authentic kind, in which votes from the general masses would really count, it's all a put-on. It's a bs stage act, which is, but should not be reflective of real society. The opposite being what we have for the greater reatlity is definitely unwelcome.
Lemmings are innocently dumb; but humans? I think 'mostly not'; much, anyway.
People can work on disneyland Nov. 2008 elections, while also working on indicting Bush and Cheney NOW!
Just for the record, I wrote the "indictment" to TAKE LEGAL EFFECT after B&C are out of office, but the intention is as Mr. Corbeil exhorts, to effect the removal of B&C ASAP.
Daniel David: when are you going to STOP ruining the asthetics of this site, being it's a progressive site, and NOT a DEMOCRAT site, with ur diatribe against anything or anybody who isn't a democrat??? This isn't "democraticdreams.org".
when will you finally admit to your responsiblity of having cast a vote that essentially helped to elect the WORST president in history by NOT voting for Nader???
could you at least post your comments further down the line so i can at least hear a few COHERENT thoughts before i hear your inane ramblings???
thanks you very much..
and Bush and Cheney and the rest of the Enablers are not only criminals and should be treated as such, but they are also terrorists. look up the definition some time. and the last i saw and witnessed, the Democrats were coplicit and just as guilty as Bush and Cheney.
Until a united front of peaceful and organized American people forcibly remove the cancer that is killing this republic, America will always be a refuge for terrorists.
Man, am I proud of my hometown or what? No matter how small of a move we make as Americans, it's better than doing nothing. Most of this country is more interested in Britney Spears' rehab than they are with the fact that we are RAPIDLY losing our liberties and right as Americans. We must take action, no matter how small.
If we don't, our country is lost. I'm so sick of conservatives telling me that "united we stand" crap, because they don't unite. They blindly follow their president because they feel it's their patriotic duty. They are completely wrong. So much so, that I wonder if they realize their "patriotism" is nothing more than masked fascism and totalitarianism. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY AS AMERICANS TO REPLACE OUR GOVERNMENT WHEN IT NO LONGER WORKS FOR THE PEOPLE, DECEIVES ITS PEOPLE, THROWS THE MIDDLE FINGER AT THE CONSTITUTION, AND PUTS OUR COUNTRY'S SAFETY AT RISK, which is exactly what this administration has done. Bush, Cheney et. al. are criminals. Period. They belong in PRISON. My worry is, if we wait until after the election to hold them accountable, it will never be done. No one can convince me that the next president will take care of this. In fact, I would not be at all surprised if the Bush/Cheney crimes are swept under the carpet completely - memories of Ford pardoning Nixon come to mind.
Lastly to REGISTERED REPUBLICAN: notice that Common Dreams DID put your comments on the site, however wrong they may be. LIBERAL MEDIA???? ARE YOU CRAZY? The media sold the war to the sheep and they followed. The media doesn't report on anything of real concern (American Idol??? Please.), rather, they have distracted everyone from the important issues. Other than Keith Olbermann, we have no journalist or pundit with enough balls to confront Bush head-on. We need the media to repeat over and over and over what Bush has said and done over the past 8 years, just as they repeated over and over and over again that Clinton got a blow job in the White House and lied under oath. While I was not much of a Clinton fan either, try weighing the difference between impeaching a president for lying to a Grand Jury about a private, illicit affair, and NOT impeaching a president who deliberately manipulated information that let up to our current illegal occupation of Iraq, all the while making references to 9/11. Completely despicable. Our "war" in Iraq has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11!!!!!!! 9/11 was a convenience for this administration, so they could use the country's fury to justify revenge against a country that had nothing to do with it (and don't get me started about the fact that I believe our government was, at the very least, deliberately complicit in allowing 9/11 to happen, in order to justify war). Bush has done NOTHING to protect us - instead he's created more terrorists than ever Bush has done NOTHING to help our economy, instead created the largest deficit in history. Bush has done NOTHING to help the returning soldiers from the severe trauma they faced while being brainwashed into murdering tens of thousands of civilians - many of them CHILDREN. We are only beginning to see the affects this war will have on these men and women. Research the high suicide rate among the soldiers. Research the amount who have snapped and killed others because they cannot handle assimilation back to civilian life.
Ok, my rant's done. Thanks for all of the positive comments about our town. The negative feedback our Selectboard received can be disregarded as ignorant rants from Bush's sheep. They hang on to the notion that their president can do no wrong, and stick with their party no matter what the consequences. They are not Americans. In fact, they are the shame of our country.
Thank you, Kurt Daims, for having the guts to do SOMETHING. I'm glad you're a citizen of our town (and I'm even your neighbor)! If this country took more action as you did, Bush & Cheney would already have been removed from office. They are CRIMINALS. They must be punished.
C'mon and visit Brattleboro, people. We'd be glad to have you. It's a charming slice of Americana with a unique, artistic flavor that you'd enjoy. And who knows? You may just fall in love with the place and want to relocate - and we'd be happy to have you.
Accountability + impeachment + criminal convictions + completely new government = PEACE and prosperity.
Be well, everyone.
Whether or not this means "the beginning of the end for Bush and Co.," it is critical that we all give it a try. We need for this to spread to other towns and cities, so it grows beyond just one small courageous Vermont town. I understand that Portland, Oregon has it going. There are other places as well. Tell us what you are doing and where. For example, there is an earlier comment from rebelnow:
"It's the small seemingly insignificant gestures like this that can ignite a major shift in consciousness that may spread throughout. A similar petition has started in my community. It might look silly and fruitless to some, but it could ignite a movement."
Tell us where?
So far, every indication is that some 60% of the general public feels its the right thing to do. Check out the Brattleboro email count. Check out the USAToday Quick Poll, before it was taken down. Etc. So, it just needs a little nudge to get it going almost wherever you are, especially in the more receptive areas. Just try. It'll take a life of its own, as it has in/from Bratt
The exact language is not important...use that of Brattleboro, or get an indictment of your own. As more and more towns come on board, the experts, the lawyers, the courts, the constitutional scholars will find the language and the precise legal mechanism to fit the current critical situation.
Investigate - Impeach - Indict - Imprison
My 2 minute YouTube supporting Brattleboro and ALL those awakening from the seductive trance of a corrupted media:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHTyE_soY8w
RegisteredRepublican February 6th, 2008 3:25 pm
go back to cnn or fox where you belong
Here on the "Left Coast" in the San Francisco Bay Area there is a large movement toward impeachment. The people have been 'taking it to the streets' Or I should say "To the Beach" http://www.beachimpeach.org/photos.html
I have taken part in four of these Beach Impeach events involving thousands of people. It's a most awesome experience. Sadly though, MSM ignores these mass turnouts. Only one of our local media stations gave us any coverage at all; and it was very brief.
Still, I'm a strong believer in grassroots movements and will continue to push forward toward impeachment. If we the people let Bu$hco walk, you can kiss our democracy goodbye. These looters must be held accountable.
Peace