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Clinton Remained Silent As Wal-Mart Fought Unions
In six years as a member of the Wal-Mart board of directors, between 1986 and 1992, Hillary Clinton remained silent as the world's largest retailer waged a major campaign against labor unions seeking to represent store workers.
Clinton has been endorsed for president by more than a dozen unions, according to her campaign Web site, which omits any reference to her role at Wal-Mart in its detailed biography of her.
Wal-Mart's anti-union efforts were headed by one of Clinton's fellow board members, John Tate, a Wal-Mart executive vice president who also served on the board with Clinton for four of her six years.
Tate was fond of repeating, as he did at a managers meeting in 2004 after his retirement, what he said was his favorite phrase, "Labor unions are nothing but blood-sucking parasites living off the productive labor of people who work for a living."
Wal-Mart says Tate's comments "were his own and do not reflect Wal-Mart's views."
But Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton and other company officials often recounted how they relied on Tate to lead the company's successful anti-union efforts.
An ABC News analysis of the videotapes of at least four stockholder meetings where Clinton appeared shows she never once rose to defend the role of American labor unions.
The tapes, broadcast this morning on "Good Morning America," were provided to ABC News from the archives of Flagler Productions, a Lenexa, Kan., company hired by Wal-Mart to record its meetings and events.
A former board member told ABCNews.com that he had no recollection of Clinton defending unions during more than 20 board meetings held in private.
The tapes show Clinton in the role of a loyal company woman. "I'm always proud of Wal-Mart and what we do and the way we do it better than anybody else," she said at a June 1990 stockholders meeting.
Clinton would not agree to be interviewed on the subject but now says she no longer shares Wal-Mart's values and believes unions "have been essential to our nation's success."
The videotapes do show that Clinton used her role to push for more environmentally friendly policies and better treatment of women.
"We've got a very strong-willed young woman on our board now; her name is Hillary," said Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton at a 1987 stockholders meeting in describing Clinton's role in pushing for more women to be hired in management positions.
Critics say Clinton's efforts produced few tangible results, and Wal-Mart is now defending itself in a lawsuit brought by 16 current and former female employees.
"I don't doubt the sincerity of her efforts, but we don't see much evidence that conditions for women at Wal-Mart changed much during the late 1980s and early 1990s," said Joe Sellers, one of the lawyers suing Wal-Mart on behalf of the women.
Wal-Mart declined to comment to ABC News about the lawsuit, but the company has said previously that it is confident it did not discriminate against female employees.
Sen. Clinton has recently sought to distance herself from Wal-Mart.
In a campaign speech last year in New Hampshire, Sen. Clinton said, "Now I know that Wal-Mart's policies do not reflect the best way of doing business and the values that I think are important in America."
Her Senate campaign returned a $5,000 contribution from a Wal-Mart Political Action Committee, although ABCNews.com discovered another $20,000 in contributions from Wal-Mart executives and lobbyists.
Clinton spokesperson Howard Wolfson said, "There is no basis to return" the money.
According to the New York Times, Sen. Clinton "maintains close ties to Wal-Mart executives through the Democratic Party and the tightly knit Arkansas business community." The May 20, 2007 article also reported that her husband, former President Clinton, "speaks frequently to Wal-Mart's current chief executive, H. Lee Scott Jr." and held a private dinner at the Clinton's New York home in July 2006 for him.
President Clinton defended his wife's role on the Wal-Mart board last week after the issue was raised by Sen. Barack Obama in a CNN debate.
His wife did not try to change the company's minds about unions, the former Arkansas governor said.
"We lived in a state that had a very weak labor movement, where I always had the endorsement of the labor movement because I did what I could do to make it stronger. She knew there was no way she could change that, not with it headquartered in Arkansas, and she agreed to serve," President Clinton said.
In a written statement, Clinton spokesperson Wolfson said, "As President, she will fight alongside labor to promote the economic growth of America's middle class." He said Clinton strongly believes Wal-Mart workers should be able to unionize and bargain collectively.
He did not directly respond when asked why she did not quit the board over the conpany's anti-union efforts. "Wal-Mart was Arkansas's largest employer when Sam Walton asked Sen. Clinton to join the board," he said. "As the first woman to join Wal-Mart's board, she worked hard to make it a better corporate citizen."
In its statement, Wal-Mart described Sen. Clinton as "a valuable contributor" who "pushed us to be a better company."
Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures



88 Comments so far
Show AllNiether Clinton or Obama are frieds of labor. At this point, only the corporate hacks are left in the running.
Jaded I do believe you're right. However, I believe that Obama beats McCain, whereas Hillary's presence galvanizes the rabid Republican "All-things-Clinton-are-demon-Spawn" hive-mind.
Good bad or indifferent, running her is just plain stupid. Ego, spinelessness and shortsightedness all combine in the democratic Party to give the repubs the presidency for 4 more years and the possibility of generational damage to the Supreme Court.
Duh.
Hillary ... it is precisely for this I never want you as president...ever. You have supported crushing American workers, not just Walmart workers but every US worker that has lost their jobs in manufacturing and everything else that now comes out of China and have succeeded wildly. Your hubby helped massively too with NAFTA.
Now I understand why she never left Bill. They are both alike. And I don't doubt they had this planned from the beginning. A pretty clever way to get him 4 terms.
Ah, how such human characters abandon much that is good and true in the folly of pursuing public power and 15-seconds of fame.
This candidate thing is something Woodrow Wilson talked about. He said -- "a platform is something you run on when seeking office -- and then is something you run from once elected."
Hillary's platform is so uninspiring -- I truly fear how flatland and "business as usual" it really will be should she be elected. If you you notice, so much of her focus is on herself as a candidate -- and not shifting the focus to empowering people. She is no champion for empowering others -- especially the everyday people. No, she is pedestrian politics and truly typical.
We need visionary leadership that is about igniting and empowering people.
Hillary or Obama, coke or pepsi? For my money they're both enigmatic politicians and probably up to no good..
Supposedly Hillary Clinton is the can-do executive and Barack Obama is the can-inspire leader and that their policy views are almost indistinguishable. But what are their politics? What do they actually believe in?
Both of them have so hedged their bets or are so maddingly vague or are so small-bore policy-wise as to be meaningless: maybe we'll get out of Iraq and maybe we'll leave bases and trainers/Blackwater and the air force stay, maybe we'll have some sort of health care for America's uninsured and underinsured and maybe we won't, perhaps we need to raise taxes or we need to cut taxes, maybe so-called illegal immigrants must return or perhaps they can stay, and their views on how to help stem the foreclosure mess are weak tea.
Compare this to the Republican side of the aisle where the full throated, red meat ideologies of God, war on terror, starve the government, free markets and tax cuts for the rich thrive and rally its supporters: it is this that gives the party its vehemence, its strength. Republicans can put most of their message on a bumper sticker: "Markets work, governments don't."
The democrats have no such strong message. It helps explain the tepid campaigns of both Kerry and Gore. Indeed it continues to this day and explains why both Clinton and Obama lack a strong political ideology and just spin their wheels on race, gender, change vs. experience, she's a liar, he's a liar issues.
Clinton might have the executive ability to get things done and Obama might have the inspirational leadership to get things done but they both beg the question: what is their forceful, put it on a bumper sticker message of what they want to get done?
You know what the problem is with modern American politics? It's corporate money driven. As ABSCAM Congressman Ozzie Myers famously remarked, "Money talks, bullshit walks."; it ought to replace "E pluribus unum" on our currency.
A Disney-owned news outlet profiling Hillary's service in union-busting Wal-Mart? Hoo boy.
Looks like another "tweedle-dee, tweedle-dum" election.
Which do you prefer, the corporate party that invades for resources, or the corporate party that makes nice-sounding noises and wears a smiley green face, but doesn't do anything effective?
What would happen if a majority of Americans voted, "None of the above?"
What would happen if a majority of Americans voted, "None of the above?"
A mandate for McCain?
VOTE GRAVEL.
Vote for the National Initiative.
Empower yourselves.
Abolish corporate personhood. And much more.
www.ni4d.org
www.gravel2008.us
Vote Gravel! Oh how I wish! But in this age of celebrity politics, his isn't even a name. At least with DK people could know he thought he saw a UFO and has a hot wife!
The sad decision is ours, stay home and allow the repubs 4 more years.
Or rather Obama, who can defeat McCain. Any commentary that says there's no difference is foolish. Neither is desirable, but one is unthinkable.
NO to Hillary. Status Quo is simply NOT good enough any more.
Don't worry! Look, If Hillary wins against McCain (highly unlikely) then we will deal with it. If Obama wins, we will see what he can do. If McCain wins against Hillary -- which looks like the outcome we are headed for -- then he can deal with the economic meltdown that is just starting, the war that is never ending. He'll be in for four years of failure and then we can run Edwards against him... with Obama as a running mate. Hillary will be off the table since she lost to him this time.
We have a great national pastime--dragging Hillary through the mud as if all the other candidates are perfect and will fix all of our problems easily.
So the Repubs all hate her, does anyone realize the reason is that she would get to work and turn this country around and rescue some of the programs that they dismsntled so the rich could amass more money.
drwu__ The Dems have every bit as much to use for slogans as the Repubs, but are so busy trashing their own candidates they are not getting it done. God is just as close to the Dems as to the Repugs and that should be pointed out, as there is more to that than abortion.
How about tax cuts for the rich so our kids can pay off the debt for the rest of their lives?
How about God said do not kill (especially a million people)?
How about starve the government and all of the poor and middle class too?
The Dems should let the Repugs do the mudslinging at our own candidates as that is mostly what they are best at. Of course they wanted Hillary and Obama to be the front runners as they think they can beat either of them, and knew the Dems would be dumb enough to trash them themselves. We will never have the perfect candidate, but we had better unite behind one that stands a chance of election and handling the enormous job.
Please bear in mind that the only positive reason to ride the Hillary-loves-Walmart-hates-unions horse is to get Barack Obama elected. If you use this to elect John McCain or Mitt Romney, you have succeeded in fouling your own beanie.
There are far more voters saving a LOT of money by shopping at Walmart (especially if buying their Great Value and Equate house brands of food and drugstore stuff) than there are voters working there unhappily. Bringing Walmart itself in as an election issue is industrial-strength nonsense, when the real issues are the agencies, the judges, the veto power, the "wars", health care, social security, taxation errors, the budget and the falling dollar.
Progressives need to know what band is playing, and what tune is being played, before they jump on the wagon.
One more thing. If you want to run Obama instead of Hillary -- then this is the time to do some very grass roots work. Forward stories from Common Dreams to friends you know who are leaning towards Hillary that would influence them to lean towards Obama. There are several today that would work. http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/31/6746/
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/31/6747/
I want to know why ABC chose to blow Hillary's cover.
kathyodat
I still intend to vote for Dennis Kucinich in November.
Jerryrigged,
Thanks for the reminder here when we have Bill who gave us the answer to labor, NAFTA, defending Hillary, Walmart and Arkansas all in one excuse.
Thanks for cleaning up Arkansas too, Bill.
Re-elect the Clintons Bumper Sicker:
FROM WALMART TO SHAFTA THEY GOT US HERE...8 MORE YEARS!
kernel, study some history. While Hillary was playing "yes woman" on the Wal-Mart board, Obama was a community activist lawyer on the Chicago streets. While Hillary was playing "yes woman" to all Bush's demands, Obama was persuading unwilling and reluctant police departments, the state legislature and the governor to sign his bill to require videotaping of police interrogations and confessions. Illinois is now the only state with that as a law. So lets talk about who gets things done and who only talks about getting things done.
With Obama, young people feel inspired and optimistic. This country needs that, needs their involvement in politics. They're willing to take a chance on him and so am I. If I'm wrong, what do I have to lose? Looking at the rest of the field, I already know what I will get, and that includes Hillary.
kathyodat
It's become very obvious, things will have to get worse (much worse) before they are allowed to get better. It should be asked, 'who has been right about the state of the world for most of the last 2 decades and who is now being ignored into silence?' It will be left to those that survive.
kathyodat, I'm with you on that. I voted for him here in Florida last week. We know what Hillary is about and we certainly know what Romney and McCain are about (another hundred years in Iraq?)...
America is dying, my friends. The oil companies are showing record profits. The defense industry is showing record profits. The candidates are showing nothing.
Look, let's make this real easy, OK? We cannot continue to burn oil. Why? Because it is bankrupting our treasury and threatening life on the planet.
The solution? We cut about $500 billion out of the $1.1 trillion defense budget. That still leaves the US with a defense budget larger than the rest of the world combined! Instead of pouring money into the research and production of new fighter planes and funding more than 730 foreign military bases, we pour those funds into research on cars that don't burn fossil fuels and we spend that money on research for efficient, low cost solar panels. This research would be done by government employees hired specifically for these purposes. We then make the technology available to private companies to produce consumer products. Either we sell the patents to them or we demand certain affordable pricing when the goods come to market.
The result? We stop importing more than 10 million barrels of oil per day at roughly $100 per barrel. Sound good? And the prices will only get higher over time. Demand for oil in China is skyrocketing. And there's always peak oil pricing pressures to consider. Our oil addiction is jeopardizing our security and our future.
So, not only could new technology help us stop importing 10 million barrels per day, but it would enable us to stop spewing CO2 into the atmosphere at the rate of 20 million barrels per day. That's how much oil is burned everyday in the US.
The problem, my friends, be you Democrat or Republican, is that the weeny ass candidates from both major parties are in bed with BIG DEFENSE and BIG OIL. You just will never hear anything real from either major party on this critical issue. That's just the way it is. Which candidate is willing to call for massive cuts in the defense budget to make the country safer? America will always be less safe having to occupy other countries to secure oil. We will always be less safe when we have to sell our souls to the tyrannical House of Saud to guard our oil sources. We will always be less safe when we gut America's infrastructure to pay for big defense and big oil. We will always be less safe when we cannot afford quality education, healthcare and a social safety net for those who need it. That's exactly where we've come to today. Do you really believe otherwise?
And so, America continues to die while we play the great campaign game. Obama said this; Clinton said that. It's all crap, friends. Keep your eye on the real stuff. We need major changes and play-it-safe political parties are not ever going to advocate for them. Until we can make the major parties bend to the people's will rather than the will of entrenched corporate interests, the minor differences between parties and candidates is little more than illusion ... and time is growing very, very short.
There is no need to try to dig up dirt like this on Hillary. Those that are not intelligent enough to know how wrong she is are simply going to dismiss what you tell them anyway. Progressives already know about her and thus won't be influenced by this information.
The race boils down to Hillary (I'll tell you whatever gets your vote but won't do it when I get elected) Clinton, Mitt (Jesus is my co-pilot) Romney, Barack (I don't know where I'm going but I'm making record time) Obama, and John (It's funny when I lie to you and I'm going to destroy the whole world if you just give me the chance) McCain. We're in DEEP trouble unless somehow somebody else can get involved in the race. This two-face rhetoric on Hillary is just old news.
Hillary has a LOT of REAL negative baggage that goes beyond just bashing --
http://www.sonic.net/~taryfast/Hillary.html
Obama is lesser of 2 evils.
If there's any doubt about Clinton family integrity, check the NYT today about Bill's arm-twisting at the expense of US (and his wife's) policies and to fill the clinton family coffers.
Hopefully, women complaining about sexist treatment of Billary will explore ALL her credentials as loyal Bush supporter on war and other anti-Democratic measures.
Anyone opening shop with equipment to hone the 'Swiftboater' knives will get rich.
Remember there is a reason why the same folks that got Bush elected want her as Dem candidate. She's the only one that any other miltary-industrial oligarchy candidate can defeat!
I like ruscle's "Don't Worry!" scenario. (1:04pm) I'm so bummed over losing Edwards, anything that mentions him surfacing in a future election just makes me feel better!
It is time to take a stand and DO something. No candidate is perfect. I have made a decision to stop nit-picking all the faults and foibles of the most progressive candidates and put my time and money on the line. It would be interesting to publicize the faults and embarrassing information about each of us who so blithely post here and see who would support us (wry smile to you).
I wanted to be inspired again. Barack Obama inspires me with his messages. How much will he able to accomplish? If he can do even 25% of what he is talking about, that will be progress. The most resonant part of his message, for me, is that WE together have to make change; he is not saying the HE is the messiah, he is saying that if we citizens commit to make change, it will happen.
I am committing my time and money for the Obama for America campaign prior to Super Tuesday. I have opened my business office for volunteers to make calls, and get out the vote on Monday.
Aside from supporting Obama, I have formed a group called AWAKENED CITIZENS. Following is what we sent to every member of Congress; you may say it is corny or naïve, but we intend to keep the messages going to our elected representatives. BTW, you are welcome to copy and send to your representatives:
NEW YEAR RESOLUTIONS
2008
I resolve to rededicate myself, as a Member of Congress, to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and to the American people.
1. I will vote as a humble servant of the American people.
2. Before any vote, I will take time to close my eyes and visualize the faces of those whom my vote may affect, the elderly grandmother in a nursing home, the young couple just starting out in life with a baby on the way, the 50'ish tradesman, the severely wounded veteran returning from the Middle East, the bright-eyed five-year old ready to start kindergarten,
3. I will vote as though I don't have to worry about getting re-elected.
4. I will vote as one who is free of obligations to special interests that don't coincide with what I truly believe is in the public interest.
5. I will vote as though there are no cameras, I don't have to "posture" for sound bites, I can be myself and say what is true.
6. I will vote as though there are no consequences from the administration, other members of congress, or my financial contributors.
7. I will conduct independent research on issues, seeking out experts who have no political agendas, I will avoid sources known to "spin" facts, withhold information, or provide false information. I will make decisions based on fact and logic rather than dogma and political expediency.
8. I will demonstrate that I have the courage to say, "I was wrong" and "I changed my mind."
9. I will work with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to make decisions in the best interest of the American people; I will abandon petty partisan politics.
10. I will avoid name-calling and character assaults; I will challenge the issue, not the person.
11. While others use inflammatory language to manipulate the American people, creating fear, appealing to racism, classism, religiosity, sexism, and prejudice; I will be the voice of reason.
12. I will be the one to extend a hand to find common ground to solve our problems now and to leave a positive legacy for future generations.
13. I will vote as though this the last day of my life; my last chance to leave a legacy for my country, my family, and the world.
14. I will re-read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights; I will require that my staff do so as well.
15. I will publicly recommit to my oath of office to support and defend the Constitution of the United States
Signed_________________________________
people.....LET'S ROLE THE DICE FOR OBAMA\EDWARDS....do we want to keep playing musical chairs with the clintons and bushes ? and mccain....100% WARMONGER
Nader just formed a fact finding committee and is contemplating running again....AND I'LL VOTE FOR HIM! He'd be the only candidate left that I could do so with good conscience. I hope he runs, I really do. NADER '08!
jlover -
You are forgetting that it is already a pre-ordained certainty that Clinton will be elected. There has either been a bush or Clinton in the White House for the last 28 years. Look at the history books and see. It will be Clinton again. The ruling families will never allow another to 'take over'. We will all pretend to vote and cast the ballot for Obama but in the end it will be Clinton regardless.
From the article:
The videotapes do show that Clinton used her role to push for more environmentally friendly policies and better treatment of women.
All the while never making a peep about Wal-Mart's exploitation of labor.
That was the extent of Hillary's progressivism 20 years ago, and considering that she has been steadily regressing since her days of radicalism at Wellesley 40 years ago, we can probably plot her current position on a graph somewhere between Joseph Lieberman and George H. W. Bush. Great.
It seems that Hecete was having her way with her American subjects long before I emailed my foreign policy objections to her on the evening before a certain tall, lefthanded Saudi airmailed his objections. Ashes, ashes...
What makes you folks think there is going to be an election? And if The Lorax is right and Clinton doesn't get the nomination, it only stands to reason that something VERY bad is going to happen before November.
I think I'll just play it by ear. The only thing I know for sure is that I will NEVER vote for a Clinton or a Bush, EVER.
And that's all I have to say about that........
It is amazing to me the way many of the CD posters are so bitter about the Clinton family. After the worst eight years in our country`s history, it seems a little disingenuous to crab about things that most administrations have been guilty of.
Many of us would have preferred another choice, such as John Edwards, but the corporate media did not want to face him as he would have had a good chance to win the election.
I suppose Bills lie is still affecting some people, but measured agaonst 935 lies, it does not look too bad.
Some folks are taken in by Obama`s speechs about bringing the country together, but that was Pelosi`s idea also, and that meant letting the Repugs run over them. That would be great in time but now we need to get things turned around and preach about togrtherness after that has happened.
There are evidently many people that are not aware that every year of Clinton`s eight years, the budget improved until by the last several years, there was a nice surplus to apply on the debt. Bush handed that out to his rich cronies in a short time and conned many lower income people into thinking they had a great benefit.
If you all like to saddle your kids with lifetime debt and see all of the programs dumped that help lower and middle class citizens, then a Clinton is not your cup of tea. We at least had a functioning country that was respected around the world during Bills eight years.
We should support Obama if he gets nominated, but the conservatives will be ready for him with all barrels blazing or they would not have pushed him so much.
Rebel Farmer - I hope you are wrong!!!!
That said - you are probably correct in your diagnosis.
Why do you think the Anti-home grown Terrorism Act(SB1959) is about to be passed? Why do think we had KBR build detention camps for at least 500,000 detainees? Why do think all and any eavesdropping to eliminate any shred of privacy will be passed?
Sure, Hillary is what she is, yuck. But yesterday I saw William Kristol attacking her, today ABC news...because she has the best chance of beating mccacain and kristol wants to bomb bomb bomb iran like mccain does and occupy Iraq "for a thousand years," again like mccain.
She will get the nomination, nader will help split the vote(so he said anyway) and mccain will win (hi karl). cool.
World War Three. She is less militaristic than mccain, but here on CD I notice dem's get hit way harder than repub's.
Again she is a pig..but less of one than mccain.
Oh I'm sorry, Ralph won't split the vote of the left. He did not do that before as I have had pointed out so harshly on this web-site.
Kernal, careful, the right to have differing opinions with the daily threaders on CD w/o being attacked is very limited.
Any corporate hack is going to keep things running smooth. There isn't one out there that will do the right thing. The right thing is to hard to for most humans. Change. These clowns make the human race look bad. Leaders? Like Brittney!
Let me heartily second what BeForKids said at 1:34 pm above. The candidates don't differ much in what they are actually proposing, and they are both taking big money from very unsavory sources. Neither can be considered progressive; yet it may matter very much who they are, what their life history has been, and what sort of pressures from the people they are likely to respond to. The prognosis for Clinton, a former corporate schill, is not very good. Obama's history as a community organizer gives more reason for hope.
The small differences in position are important too. In terms of their positions on Iraq and Iran, there is not much to distinguish between Clinton and McCain, except that McCain is less mealy-mouthed. With Obama vs. McCain, there is a significant difference, a reason for people to choose Obama if they want peace.
Clinton will do grave damage to what is left of the Democratic Party, if indeed she doesn't throw the election to the Neanderthals who are leading us to Armageddon. With Obama there is some small measure of hope.
Obama has yet to raise an issue. What the hell does he stand for? Change to what? Where does he stand of the issues of the Clinton Scandals?
The sell-out to the Chinese money, the Arab money to the Clinton Library in Arkansas..
Dubai-Ports where Billary recieved some one million dollars as a consultant, the tens of million dollars the Saudi Royalty has been giving to the Clintons. With all these issues, where is Obama? Hiding behind Oprah?
Kernel--
also on clinton's watch:
WTO, NAFTA
banking and financial deregulation
privatization of government
media consolidation
union busting
bombing of iraq
and more i can't think of off the top of my head.
granted, he was much more fiscally responsible than the present thugs, a reversal of the traditional repulican/democratic roles. but he was also lucky. the tech bubble came along at the right time, keeping the economy seemingly healthy while uncountable living-wage jobs were lost, and burst with minimal damage.
i agree more or less with The Lorax and Rebel Farmer. whatever the fix winds up being, it's already in, and the day average citizens create real change in this country won't be november 4, 2008.
This kind of dirt is fair game. I think that you have all figured out that the election is being fought on common dreams and that you will be seeing more articles coming out revealing both Clinton and Obama's skeletons in the next bit.
That said, Wal-Mart is a dangerous association. Not only are they anti-human right, but they were represented at the SPP meeting in Montebello - which means that they also have a shown interest in influencing government policy.
SPP has been called "NAFTA on steroids".
RE: - Oh I'm sorry, Ralph won't split the vote of the left.
You bring up an interesting point - what is this left whose vote he is supposed to be splitting. Surely it is not Hillary-us's vote.
I know that vote splitting charge is bogus. But so is that there is another left to split it with - especially with Edwards out of the race.
How's this for a scenario.
Hillary and Bill are elected. Gay marriage is legitimized. Bill leaves Hillary and marries Obama.
If you want to know what kind of person Obama is, read his book "Dreams from my Father", which
was written about 15 years ago. He may not have some of the political experience of Billery,
but he has a lot of experience in life. He knows what it is like to try to pay bills, he has
spent a night sleeping in an alley, he's seen the rich trying to put down the poor. He's not
my first choice, but of who is left, I'm willing to give him a chance. He's got to be better
than what we have now.
Billary Clinton and Barack Osama
SOS
666 = www (Hebrew Alphabet = v v v there is no www) = Mark = Brand
Patriotis Veritas
A Patriot tells the truth.
I smoke a brand.
I am probably screwed. For all of you innocents, I am with you.
For all of you who think you can make it with www... forget about it, its a delusion.
Patriot is Veritas
Patriotis: In plain english, what are you talking about?
In plain english.
The use of www as a cover all internet address has concerned me for a long time.
I now know why this mantra concerns me.
Try to make any real money today without www......
You will find that prophecy is fulfilled, and yes, the corporate greed-mongers are the institutions who have turned our society into a brand (the thing they scorch into cows and computers screens today) society.
Look around you. Look at the things, the stuff closest to you, tell me its not branded.
If you disagree with me, that is fine, personally, I have disagreed with myself for a long time, but when something gets so obvious its impossible to ignore, its time to tell your friends about it; my friends are here. This earth was made for your enjoyment, not your enslavement. www and brands are enslaving all of us. Organic and working with your neighbors is the way to go, we have the knowledge now...
Yeah and her husband just denied that 911 was an inside job this week after a heckler in the crowd shouted:
"911 was an inside job!"
Thats enough for me it's been "officially denied" by Slick Willy him self.
Alex Jones played the clip today on his show.You can listen to the rebroadcast this evening on :
http://www.gcnlive.com/Schedule-Weekdays.htm