one day we'll rid this country of the last vestiges of the same evil of the nazis = racism, euthanasia, abortion, eugenics.

For the past 7 years, I've frequently heard the phrase, "Preserving the American way of life." President Bush has repeatedly justified the illegal Iraq pre-emptive invasion and the killing of millions of innocent people as a means to "preserve our American way of life." He also continues to deny the environmental plunder and a need to change our lifestyles for that identical reason.

Recently, I heard anti-abortion touting Mike Huckabee make that same "protecting the American way of life" argument for his reason to support the war and to suck the planet dry of all it's fossil fuels.

It seems that many civilians feel very comfortable and even virtuous in protecting their way of life by not having to sacrifice a "consuming" thing for that war or even a portion of their income to pay for it.

Especially for a right winger, killing, plundering, torturing, exploiting, destroying the Constitution and Bill of rights.... are all perfectly legitimate and virtuous means to "preserve their American way of life."

On the other hand, if a woman chooses to preserve her way of life through an abortion, she is labeled as selfish and self centered. Therefore, steps must be taken to prevent that immorality. The hypocrisy is just breathtaking.

I support Choice because I want my wishes respected. I have been around awhile and have learned to never say never. The "stuff" I have endured, dealth with and just side-stepped is truly amazing!

The bottom line is: forced child-bearing is torture and exceptionally disrespectful of women and life in general. Forced childbearing is a form of slavery and mistreatment and denies women the right of self perservation and self-survival; a right men take for granted.

All this baby vs body is a real quandary, but for me it is simple.
I can't be forced to give blood against my will, I can't be forced to give a kidney donation against my will, I can't be forced to sign up for any kind of organ donor registry against my will and if I do register, I can decline testing and donation later. I cannot be forced, as a competent adult, to have surgery, medical testing or be medicated against my will. I'll be damned, if I will tolerate a pregnancy unless it is my choice; no one should be forced to have their body used as a spare part or incubator for another entity. This women has a professional education, a job, money, a good credit rating and cards to prove it, a computer and a valid passport and if life for women in the good ole USA becomes too difficult, I will take my resources elsewhere to get medical care and legal protections of my choosing.

We should all demand a law be passed to protect all Americans' in their reproductive choices and the right to privacy. A Reproductive Health and Privacy Act would take the issues out of the Supreme Court and place it back where it belongs. . .in the lives of men and women and their doctors.

I will invite a history buff (Rich M? CO marc?) to help me with this point, but I seem to remember that the Nazis were also anti-abortion. I think it's very clear that the more repression is aimed at women's bodies (sexuality), the more violent a society.

Ironically America's Christian fundamentalists have more in common with their presumed Islamic fundamentalist rivals than they would like to imagine. Common denominator? Their view of women! Whether wearing a burqua or not, both think control of women (that old patriarchal feeling) is necessary, and both see in religion a false Divine mandate for doing so.

HEAVEN help us all! It's so convenient for the nazi mentality (anything totally authoritarian, which any form of religious fundamentalism mirrors in spirit and ethos) to make of UNBORN life a sacrament because that seems to white wash the TRUE violence of their agendas. As others in this post have mentioned, the SAME ones who are adamant about Pro-life positions are FIRST to support militarism and the MURDER of other nations' chlidren.

The Gods must be crying over this social schizophrenia that purportedly intelligent persons entertain!

alaskamaid, i'm sure you do "have many good male friends..." they just aren't aware of how you really feel about them.

It's sad that in this day and age so many people have such a narrow opinion about what a 'family' really is - maybe it's just the result of social disintegration in the US. The rest of the world values 'family' in ways that most Americans just don't get.

yohocoma: If I meant stereotypical American 'nuclear' family - I would have said so. Maybe you should broaden your horizons... wouldn't be a bad idea for most Americans. We don't put our elderly family members in institutions (nursing homes, 'senior' apartments, etc) or dump children in day-orphanages or park them in front of TV-babysitters. American 'society' is an oxymoron.

Lino -- I have many good male friends and am known as someone they can trust. My spouse and I have a terrific relationship. Please don't judge me for saying that the empirical evidence suggests that men in general have a really distorted attitude towards their own genetic frequency signature (their sperm). Because it's true. Thank you Jeannette for saying that birth control begins with men taking responsibility for them (their sperms). Sorry if it's indelicate to say so.

Lizard -- From my perspective, most men are at some deep level mind-controlled by the Matrix, which does not want to let them go because they serve as an energy source for it. Genetically, men are much more similar to each other than women (because they have XY where women have XX, and XX allows for much more genetic variance). This similarity makes men more vulnerable than women to being influenced by 'hive mind' memes -- as is obvious during wartime, also in religion and politics. But the strength of the hive mind is also its weakness, which is I think what men are secretly afraid of. Never mind tho, the future is open.

The abortion debate is a fundamentalist brawl between Christian and Liberals, deviously exploited by the beast capital to help divide, conquer, and enslave the people.

Future.me's list of reforms are right on, but the emphasis should be on TOP VALUE healthcare, not "universal" healthcare. "Universal" healthcare is the capitalist beast's foot in your reform. SMASH IT NOW and demand TOP VALUE instead.

People, you have to smash capitalism if you want to accomplish anything - it's very simple. Future.me's list is essentially saying the same thing - only in terms of the progressive public policies that will be implemented after the smash.

armybrat:

"Pro-family" conjures the image of a happy nuclear family - with some children. What about women who get abortions because they don't want any children, period? What about the elephant-in-the-room overpopulation problem? Many of us are against breeding, and thus the concomitant "family", because of the wrongness of contributing to the resource problems of the world, and the wrongness of subjecting more lives to the increasing misery created by our love affairs with our own genes.

So "pro-family" doesn't come close to replacing the essence of the "pro-choice" message. It might look good in the propaganda battle, but as the author said, we shouldn't try to message our way out of this. No more lowest common denominator.

Despite a couple of seriously misleading statements, this article makes, to my mind at least, a pretty good arguement for a more intelligent public relations offensive on behalf of choice. As the authors say, the pro-choice crowd has been "insensitive" to the real concerns of those who have real moral qualms about abortion.

The letters following the article make the point better and more forcefully than the article does. One person compares a fetus to the contents of a septic tank and then to a slaughtered pig. Another calls the pro-life movement the "bowel" movement. Still another advances the novel idea that men believe that sperm are dead. And of course there's always the trope that the pro-life people are all just liars - what they "really" want is to "control women."

With arguements like these, the pro-life movement doesn't need to do much to win. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Roe Vs Wade was before AIDS, stem cells, invitro and a national healthcare crisis that seeks OB-GYNs for delivering a tremendous population explosion, not for abortions.

To me, Roe Vs Wade protects men. It gives them the right to not take responsibility for conception (as if abortion is that of immaculate conceptions).

Stopping abortion begins with making men responsible for their sperm, not making women responsible for what sperm did. Roe Vs Wade establishes women as "the weaker" sex needing special rights.

Truely, it's time for a new women's movement. One which lifts our brothers up as equals in life and murder by choice or not.

Lisa,
Come on, the reason why there is so much cancer is because we live in an extremely polluted and toxic environment. Or how do you justify men cancer rates? I don't think they've been on the pill for the last 4 decades, have they? Get real. And by the way your arguments are not convincing at all. What part of respecting others and minding your own business don't you get?

Just for the record, Tumbleweed, I am not a religious person and I also do not believe in abortion. So don't lump all pro-life people in with what you describe as religious nut cases.

I do believe women have an inherent right to do whatever they want with their own bodies, and that the government has no moral obligation to protect a baby in the womb from its own mother. However, the government does have a moral obligation to protect the profession of medicine, and that is where I draw the line. Government-certified physicians should not be in the business of killing. If women want to have an abortion, let them learn how to do it themselves, or go to a witch doctor, or even a plumber for that matter. How did real doctors, who take an oath to "first, do no harm," get all tangled up in this business?

Women are such hypocrites. First, they say, "Get the government out of my womb." Then, when they get pregnant and they don't want to have the baby, they want the government to provide them with a government-certified physician, government-approved medication, governmnent-approved surgical tools, government-approved operating table, government-approved medical facility, and, if it doesn't turn out the way they want, a government-run court system. And, if they can't afford the abortion themselves, they also want the government to pay for it.

Make up your mind. Do you want the government out of your womb or not?

It's all about religion folks! Nothing more guides the 'pro-life' movement because that's the underlying reason they are for stamping out abortion! It goes against their religious belief's! It isn't about life and we all know it isn't. Because these righteous souls could care less about the infant that's being brought into this world. They are on their own once there out of the womb!!!!

It's about imposing their sick religious belief's upon rest of this country! They are against birth control as well as anything sexual. They have already moved into the areas of controlling women's access to birth control. Through Pharmacists who refused to fill prescriptions for birth control due to 'conscious'! If this movement isn't stamped out it is going to set women back 100 to 200 years.

I am like the one woman earlier I am pro-choice and pro life both. If a woman does not believe in abortion that is her right! But it is also my right to get one when and if I ever need it. I am not insisting the pro life people head for the nearest PPA and get an abortion. So why do they feel the need to restrict every woman's access to one?

It's all about learning to respect someone else's belief's. If they want their belief's respected they need to learn to start minding their own business and stop forcing their religion down my throat!

alaskamaid: Care to elaborate on your thoughts on men?

again, alaskamaid, you seem to generalize all men into one category. pity on you. granted, your background, as described, would certainly cause those feelings. however, all men do not go out and molest young children. nor do all female school teachers molest high school stud muffins.

not all "men seem to consider sex as some sort of excretory function". nor do all men secretly have a low opinion of themselves. nor are all men "locked into low frequency sexual behaviors". next time you look at a man, try it with an open mind, regardless of what your past holds.

lisa - its not just studies the ACTUARIES in insurance companies have emperically determined increased cancer rates with contraception and with women who've had abortions.

This has appeared in numerous journals but the media doesn't want to see or hear about it. Just as with environmental effects that require a change in behavior...people just don't want to.

A man would rather increase the risk of cancer for his girlfrien several thousand percent before having to change his behavior of view her other than an object. The women who think contraception is liberating, has only liberated men from responsibility and women as chemicalally modified who'll pay the price later.

Lizard:

Actually, some very highly regarded studies in Europe have now shown conclusively that birth control pills significantly increase the risk of breast cancer. (Look it up.) Those studies have received scant media attention, of course, because this is not what women want to hear. What do you think is responsible for the vast increase in breast cancer, particularly among younger women in their 30s and 40s, in the past few decades?

Again, women are so gullible. Men say, "Take this little pill and all your problems will be solved." And women -- without spending even one week researching it -- say, "Yum yum. Give me that pill. I'll swallow anything if it means I don't have to take responsibility for my actions."

What kind of advice is that, Lino ? Anyway, been there, done that when young (acting out after being molested by father as a child). Have been married for many years (to the same person, even), have great grown kids and have been successfully using a diaphragm with aloe vera gel instead of toxic commercial spermicides since shortly
after our son was born 21 years ago. My point is -- why do men seem to consider sex as some sort of excretory function ? I am a farmer and one of the things I do is save seeds. Good seeds are valuable. So is good sperm. It's immature at best and pathological at worst to go spreading it around willy-nilly. Look into the Eastern tantric traditions -- conservation of sexual energy isn't a new concept. If this seems weird from our reductionist, materialistic perspective, think of it in terms of frequency. Male sperm IS essence in the sense that it carries that particular person's frequency. We have forgotten this. Why ? Who benefits by men secretly having such a low opinion of themselves ? In other words, by men being locked into low frequency
sexual behaviors ? And Lizard, you spoke like an ascended reptile. Good on you !
Was wondering if ANYONE could see past this whole 'life starts at conception' crap.
Life IS and we are one of its many manifestations -- what we have lost is the ability to consciously use sexual energy to steer those manifestations in desired directions. An art currently practiced only by black magicians . . . who I must say do feed off the energetic frequencies of interrupted pregnancies . . . thankfully their time is passing.

Lino;
Yep, occasionally there are some, usually very young, people who leave their offspring in dumpsters and in bathrooms, then walk away. In ancient times that happened every day. Some ancient Greek tales feature the exposed baby coming back years later to take revenge; Oedepus (sp from hell) Rex was one of those tales. The Qu'ran speaks of burying female babies in the sands of Arabia, and that God did hear the cries of the dying... Big comfort to the dead. I'm sure.
What I'm arguing is that there would be not one or two babies dumped every month or two. Should abortion be completly banned, there would be hundreds of infants killed, or simply allowed to die, daily. Of course in such a world, we'd probably see the black women sent to jail, and the white women sent to bible camp.

Like we tagged in the day " Keep Your Laws Off My Body", Zealots aside this is aimed at men as in bet your ass, as a WOMAN I do separate the two. If you suffer the indignitys of being raped or molested YOU do not become pregnant. Men would laud such Nobless as being forced to carry a reminder of the atrocities commited upon your very being for 9 months and giving birth to the proof of your hate, only a male would act in an accusatory manner towards any woman that actually understands the difference.

There simply is no way that abortion will ever be eradicated, no matter what the laws are. For the Republicans to claim that they are trying to do this is an out-and-out lie. They know perfectly well that if they somehow could eradicate abortion, it would increase the welfare rolls, and the last thing they want to do is divert funds away from the Iraq war. Besides, if Roe vs Wade were ever overturned, the Democrats would have themselves a field day getting people to vote for them because of this one single issue.

So, since abortion can't be eradicated (for example, the abortion rate in Brazil is considerably higher than it is in the US, despite the fact that abortion is illegal there), the only sensible thing to do is to try to have as few abortions as possible. To do that, all we need to do is adopt the excellent and sensible suggestions that are outlined in Future.me's post, the one that started this discussion.

Unfortunately, what seems sensible to the average American doesn't seem very sensible to the Politicians and Big Corporations, because sensible ideas would put an end to war and poverty, and they need war and poverty to keep their profit margins up.

Until women have control of their bodies they are someones chattels. A pox on those who want to control womens bodies, the fundamentalists, the TV tub thumpers, the whole damned lot of perverted religious hypocrits, the Dobsons and their ilk the boobs that follow these megolomaniacs. Oops i missed da Pope. On this issue they show their true colours they are anti human.
In this country there are women who are still chattels unlike many less powerful less "religious " countries, what shame.

Kelmerut : Your repugnance is understandable but it should not be a guide to action. Cleaning a septic tank is repugnant too, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be cleaned. At first, slitting a pig's throat is repugnant too, yet it is done and people eat the pig. Abortion saves the life of the mother and spares the foetus of all suffering as well as life. Perhaps the truth is that it is immoral to bring children into the world with no guarantee that they won't be tortured or suffer horribly from one of God's imaginative diseases. But, given that humans are so special, we just owe it to the universe to reproduce.

If you didn't have that repugnance, you wouldn't be one of the humans who exist today BECAUSE we have that repugnance. Like violence, that repugnan ce is human and can be very useful, but like violence, it must also be controlled for the sake of everyone's well being.

Stop calling anti-abortion-ever people 'pro-life' - you will have a hard time finding any of them that are actually pro-life in any meaningful way. It is all about their god, their religion, their hatred of anything sexual, and their own repression - it is a control/power struggle. Nobody is 'pro-abortion' - so that part is settled. And just how many people are really 'pro-choice' - as if women/girls purposely get pregnant just so they can choose between delivery and abortion? Get real.

Mother Nature and the instinct to reproduce are unbelievably strong - who can honestly resist such primeval urges ALL of the time?

And 'accidents' - as well as rape, incest, etc - happen. Abortion has been part of 'life' for millions of years - it's not going to stop now just because some religious nuts want to control other people's lives. Infanticide is fairly common in nature (and was in humans not that long ago as well) - if we don't want that, what's the compromise? Forced pregnancy is NOT an option - when it threatens a woman's life or produces a freak of nature it is doubly tragic. Cases of rape or incest are an outrage - a sign of a sick society.

Stop using the language of the religious nuts - call these people by the name they deserve - inhumane. Be pro-family instead of that silly and inaccurate 'pro-choice' - the goal is healthy, nurturing families - isn't it? And yes, please admit that this is class warfare - the wealthy always have 'options' - they go on 'vacations' - you know? (Remember JFK's first wife? And that was before Roe vs Wade, and involving a Catholic, no less! Lot's of money - no problemo.)

Okay now, everyone - PRO-FAMILY!!!

I see the Repugs as blind by supporting life and war.
I see the Dems as blind by supporting abortion but not war.

Both of these are life issues. Life is the superior value in both examples and they cannot be separated despite the mental gymnastics and rationalizations that both sides exercise. Attempting to separate them is a selfish fiction.

alaskamaid, you may think that the "essence" of man is in his "seed", if so, i would suggest finding different men to sleep with. or learn how to say no. it's a 50-50 deal.

part of the real story hear is one of financial status. no one here is suggesting that the rich of our species will always have access to a safe, quiet abortion. why not? this debate centers around the middle class and the low income people of our country. when it starts affecting the rich and snooty of our society, then we'll no longer have this discussion.

skippyagogo41, women (young girls) are already leaving their unwanted babies in public restrooms, in trash dumpsters, on ranch house door steps in the cover of darkness. so when it becomes "totally illegal", expect more extreme examples of the stork coming.

Future.me

I like what you said; the only way to be pro life is to be pro choice. It's not about sex, the 'pro life'(bowel) movement is all about control.

Ya know, a few hundred years ago we didn't have access to abortion... The way people then dealt with an unwanted preggie was to kill the woman, or expose the baby to the elements. If abortion does become totally illegal, expect to see people forgetting their infants in their cars when it's minus 15, or 'accidently' dropping the kid from their balcony...

Lisa: They said the same about the pill in the sixties. Studies over 50 years have shown the pill is beneficial. Perhaps you are right, but you could also be wrong. Each must decide for himself.

I highly approve of the first comment: I am against forced pregnancy.

Keep one thing in mind as you go at it:

LIFE DOES NOT BEGIN AT CONCEPTION. LIFE BEGAN 4 BILLION YEARS AGO AND UNDERGOES MANY TRANSFORMATIONS. THE REPRODUCTIVE PROCESS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A REORGANIZATION OR TRANSFORMATION OF LIFE FORMS.

How long before the studies start coming out showing that women who take this abortion bill are 100 times more likely to develop uterine cancer, 500 times more likely to develop breast cancer, 700 times more likely to develop heart disease, etc. etc. etc.??

When are women going to learn that these so-called quick fixes are anything but? Mother nature has made it abundantly clear that she will not be messed with, at least not without a fight, and she ALWAYS wins!

Why are women so gullible? It seems like we'll put anything our mouths that some profiteering drug company tells us is harmless. Meanwhile, they hide every piece of data that shows otherwise.

Most people don't really get in to the abortion issue beyond the sound bite level and that means most folks don't have any clue about the complexity of the issue.

But all I know is that under a right wing bend, abortion and contraception keeps getting harder and harder to obtain becuase contraception is seen as part of abortion. So people get, in a Victorian sense, pushed back in to denying their sexuality. Ah, the image of the woman swept away by passion, in which "swept away" means unpremeditated sex.

I do think that the notion of pro-life til the baby gets here is a valid talking point. Too many pro-lifers find no contradiction in talking about limiting social services, putting a ceiling on the years a woman can receive support, medical care and food stamps.

I think some of states where legal abortion procurement is being stifled will be the first frontier of the return of illegal abortion. Women dying of sepsis and bleeding. That may bring the issue back to forefront.

Right. Rape, incest, 'unwanted', etc. And yes, I know about contraceptive failure as I got pregnant with a safe-t-coil IUD. (Those things are dangerous.) The thing is, we don't want to see that men behave as if their sperms are dead unless they happen upon a fertile egg, when obviously they are not the least bit dead for long enough to make a difference. We don't want to see this because behind it lies the Real Question : WHY do men behave as if their seed, their essence so to speak, is DEAD ? When we know the answer to that, then we will finally begin to mature as a species.

future.me - I get it, just as you do. In all my many years on earth, including as a volunteer at Planned Parenthood in Denver, I've never met a person who is PRO abortion.

I HAVE met people (all of them men) who believe that a woman who is raped cannot become pregnant from that rape. And these otherwise intelligent people learned this in their churches. Simply amazing.

Women taking care of women. That is my dream.

The Christians are saying its lower abortion rate is the work of Jesus.

Yeah, like Jesus is at Walgreens handing out morning after pills

P.S.: Unless you can make vasectomy a popular social rage, "that everyone is doing". Maybe even make it patriotic.

Peace.

End 90% of the argument: RU-486. If you have that, you have won the battle. The RIGHT of a woman to terminate a pregnancy is indivisible. RU-486, or something that does the same job, is the foundation for the rest of the structure.

Peace.

Science has worked both ways. It allowed the technology to see inside and also created the technology for gender selection and using fetal brain tissue from the corpses.

I am against the "fetus isnt human" argument because it suggests that you can do what you like as long as it isnt human--that should not be the moral standard. other species are not inferior to humans--that's a human supremcay myth.

I dont support abortion as birth control but I am against forced pregnancies. It is just one of those issues where ther eis no easy answer.
Using abortion as birth control is repugnant, and forcing someone to have a child they dont want is bad too.

Mind you--i dont defend anti-abortionists--I think many are against abortion because they feel its against God, or they want to control women. Their fixation on innocent babies seems to evaporate after its born.

And when they oppose contraception they are even more erroneous.

Its noble to want humans to behave and control themselves, but human nature shows that humans are not controllable that way.

I think it is time to inject a little sanity and common sense into the abortion "debate". I myself am pro-choice. The article is right however, in saying that the pro-choice message is not getting through, and part of the problem is the pro-choice crowd.

A huge majority of Americans are in favor of legal abortions. An equally huge majority have a real problem with abortions done in the third trimester except for profound birth defects or the health of the mother. By fighting tooth and nail for the idea that a women should be able to abort at any time and for any reason, some of the advocates have turned people off to something that they should be natural allies for. Fight the battles that are worth fighting, and are possible to win.

When the radical right wing declared war on women's reproductive rights it was abundantly clear that any candidate running on an anti-choice platform would do his best to appoint judges hostile to Roe v. Wade. Reagan and Bush/Bush never denied what their intentions were on this issue, and yet women who are pro-choice continued to vote for them. Such short-sightedness is partly to blame for the current plight of reproductive rights in this country.

Future.me, I agree with you completely, especially the last two paragraphs.

We need to look at the big picture and not just judge women who need an abortion. And the pro-life people should be just as passionate about the people in Iraq!!! How about their right to live?

Alaskamaid:

Also something that should be pointed out, contraception failure, birth defect, rape, incest, medical complications, sudden financial difficulty(I.E husband makes 100k a year has tragic accident while wife is pregnant.) are just a few of the many reasons abortions occur.

Which is why I am such a strong believer in folks staying out of other folks businesss. It's not for me to decide what is a good enough reason for Sally Sue to have an abortion. And it's also not my decision to decide that she doesn't have a right to choose what she feels is best.

Unborn child vs Child that the nation of America has proven it won't help care for.

"Why do women get pregnant when they don't want to have babies ?" Is that really such a "hard" (freudian slip there) question ? Puhleease . . . women get pregnant because men are under the delusion that their sperms are dead . . . unless they happen to encounter a fertile egg, which conveniently casts blame on said egg. But wait, the egg wasn't out roving around looking for the sperm, was it ? No, it was at home waiting to set up house keeping in the womb. The sperm were doing the prowling around. How they manage that when considered dead by their donors I'm not quite sure, but it seems to be quite a common feat. If men got totally past the concept of their sperm being dead the minute they left their bodies, then we could get totally past this (actually "soft") stupid question.

This is one topic that angers me to the point of madness…..

People in this country have lost more than we should have ever lost when it comes to rights. And this debate on the topic of abortion is such a huge distraction, it's almost sickening to even have to take the time out to point out the obvious reasons we shouldn't waste another second of our lives talking about it.

Pro-life folks are so pre-occupied with forcing women to have babies, that could give a rats tail on what happens to them after they are born, or what happens to people that are alive and hurting now.

Pro-choice folks are not as savvy when it comes to getting their point across because they are fighting a defensive battle and fighting on Pro-life terms.

Well I am here to announce that I am Pro-life and Pro-choice. Some of you maybe confused. But trust me they are two different stances and should be treated as so. And you can actually be both and have them not conflict at all.

Putting and end to or at least dramatically lowering abortions in the U.S is a simple and straight forward process.

1.) Universal health care - Mother's to be who are provided health care, prenatal care, and Professional medical attention will dramatically cut down the extremely expensive process for the expecting; allowing them to focus more on the child and less on the life altering, financially straining ordeals that wait in the near future.

2.) Affordable childcare – Anyone who has had to postpone, rearrange, reschedule, cancel, put-off, procrastinate, or forgo and thing of importance (Education, Career, Appointments, etc….) because you couldn't find a baby sitter, understands the importance of having a childcare that doesn't cost half or all of one paycheck.

3.) Fair Wages – Pay women what they are worth, put money in the hands of the women who do the same work as a man, but are paid a fraction of the salary. And pay the men and women a fair minimum wage for the jobs they do and the poor will not be so quick to abort. And career women will have not have to sacrifice the child that they wanted for the job that they need.

4.) Foster care and adoption reform – the system is broken, even when a mother does have a child versus abortion, the child is stuck in a system where they are bounced around from home to home, often abused in the homes they are in, then spit out on the streets at 18 only to be sucked up by the "Justice System"

5.)A pro-active stance on Contraception – 16 year old girls are not the only women who take the pro-choice option. But by provide prevention methods and prevention education versus the asinine abstinence preaching techique will save a lot of "Fetuses" and unwanted children being born.

6.) Time-Off - if a woman had the same time off as woman in France and such places. Maybe they wouldn't be as quick to make the decision to abort.

6.) Education – last but not least educate the public on the facts and cease this emotional bible based fear mongering.

If pro-choice folks attack the opposition with a focus on forcing Pro-life people to be Pro-life all the time not just when it suits them. Pro-life with war, poverty, education, wages, the environment, and most of all our brothers and sisters we live with every day. Force them to take responsibility.!

Stop letting them make the country think its ok for someone in Texas to tell someone woman in New York, she doesn't have the right to her own body. That the Pro-life groups are the controllers of all women and only they know what's right for everyone. When they are the first ones to oppose higher taxes and the first ones that want to cut social funding to increase military funding.

~Future~

I think we should turn it around: I'm against forced pregnancy. Period.