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The Morning After: Race or Gender? Neither.
Gloria Steinem, writing an op ed in the New YorkTimes yesterday, the day after droves of older people turned out to vote for the status quo in New Hampshire, hands her support over to Hillary Clinton. She claims this is because of her qualifications, or the "experience argument" that we've come to know and loathe, not her gender, and that she is not anti-Obama. Why then is her entire piece an argument for why we should vote for this white woman over that black man?
First, let it be clear. If Hillary Clinton wins this nomination, I will not be voting for her. Secondly, while we are on the subject of who did what to whom, when and why - not, as she puts it, that we're comparing injustices here or anything sordid like that, but just for the record - to put it in the blunt terms of comedian Chris Rock, "women were burning bras, black men were burning."
I, a woman, a woman not of Hillary Clinton's generation, i.e. a younger woman, and not of Hillary's hue, would never choose a female candidate just because she is female in the same way I would not choose a black candidate just because he or she is black. I choose Obama because he has the power to move me and the diplomatic skill to speak for both sides of the Palestinian conflict - the conflict which underlies every other foreign policy debacle this country has been in, the reason why of the 0.17% that the US gives as foreign aid, the majority goes towards supporting Israel, not assisting in poverty alleviation, indeed, towards actually perpetuating the state of deprivation in Palestine. I choose Obama because he is able to be an American for America from his hair to his toes and also be for the world. For the generations that followed the boomers, these are vital skills and Mrs. Clinton lacks them.
Not only does Mrs. Clinton lack these skills, she lacks real courage. The kind of courage she has, according to Steinem, is to break the "no tears" rule. What no tears rule? Are you saying that women are prone to bouts of irrational emotion and she's had to struggle to prove this stereotype wrong? As a woman I find that insulting. As a woman not of the generation that felt they had to shove their kids in daycare, pull on a pant suit and go play with the boys and then try to forget they ever had kids, as a woman who does not need to take up golf in order to have my voice heard, as a woman who finds both working full time or staying at home full time or anything in between those two extremes equally acceptable, I don't have much regard for a woman who has not once mentioned women in her entire campaign. Mrs. Clinton has tried - until yesterday when she gave such a retch-inducing orchestrated come-see-the-softer-side-of-Hillary performance - to try to make us all forget that she is a woman. Well, what you want is what you get.
Contrary to Steinem's claim, women don't get more radical with age. They have aged just like the men. That generation which marched the marches that gave us the lives we now lead cannot stand to lose control. They want us to go so far and no further. We younger women appreciate what that generation did, but our realities are different, and thankfully so. After all it was that same generation of women who neglected to consider the contributions of women who weren't white, and whose advancement in places of work came upon the backs of black men and women. It is that generation of women who raised the sons - and daughters - who lead the young into war with people we have no quarrel with. And who then refuse to admit that this was a mistake. Who want, in fact, to say that they were "mislead." Since when did Hillary Clinton listen to what George Bush was saying?
The point that the older women and men who vote for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman and say we shouldn't vote for Obama because race is not as important as gender have forgotten is this: we of a younger generation do not care about gender or race. We don't look at Obama and see a black man. We look at Obama and we see a leader. We see somebody who is intelligent, charismatic, unifying. We see somebody who has never needed to talk nasty about other people in order to win points for himself. What he is, what he says, what he has done, speaks for itself.
Hillary Clinton came into this race with the crown hovering over her head, just waiting for the moment when she could put it on. She thought that the Clinton name alone was enough, that all those nostalgia-ridden people who "just want Bill back" would pull her along. I was a youthful supporter of Bill Clinton. I worked with my fellow undergraduates for his campaign; I celebrated with the rest dancing into the night on Capitol Hill. But then I grew up. I fought against the impeachment debacle because it was fundamentally wrong, not because Bill Clinton had kept his campaign promises. He sold out his constituents just as surely as Hillary Clinton has done; he just did it with great charm. And don't forget the bombs he dropped along the way - the bombing of Iraq was ongoing through the Clinton administration, he "forgot" to help out in Rwanda though he managed a tearful apology after the fact. He was no saint. And what was Mrs. Clinton, so close to the seat of power, doing? Was she persuading him otherwise? Was she advising him on the inhumanity of ignoring the massacre of a 100,000 Rwandans? Was she doing some research on Iraq so that when she became a senator she could vote against this war? Or was she simply brushing up on God Bless America so she could sing it with aplomb on the steps of the Capitol after those towers came down? In other words, was she really engaged with this country or was she merely taking care of her image?
So we come to the question of experience. Here are a couple of people from the recent news who had a lot of experience: Andrew Fastow, Ken Lay, Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, Robert Novak to name a few. Some people have experience, but it isn't the kind we want. There are criminals with a lot of experience too, but we don't want them running a bath, let alone the country. Hillary Clinton's experience is that of a fence-sitter, a political animal who will do whatever it takes to position herself correctly. Herself. Nobody else. In her own words quoted repeatedly on the ticker running under live coverage from NBC, "this is very personal." And it is. This is not about the country or the world we and our children will have to inhabit, this is about Hillary Clinton. And frankly, I'm for the country and the world.
There is a generational divide between these two candidates. But the future transcends that divide. If we care about the future, if we want to find the good in America and have a fighting chance to leave behind the bad and the ugly, if we want our children to know more, to value the world, if we want in fact to realize that this country is part of that world, Obama is our best bet. If we want to stay right where we are, or worse, start traveling backwards, Mrs. Clinton's your gal.
In the end, it is not relevant today whether it was clothes or bodies that were burnt in the past. It matters that this country has ignited a conflagration around the world that can only be put out by a leader born out of that past but stands sure-footed in this present. A leader who can inspire divergent factions both at home and abroad to feel the audacity of hope.



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Show AllInstead of attacking the writer of this essay, you might do better spending some time checking out some of the uncomfortable numbers coming out of the voting results in NH. I don't see much difference between Obama and Clinton's policy stands,( they aren't either one my choice) but someone, perhaps even Rethugs, may very well have rigged NH polling results. Look at the numbers snd note that hand counted ballots and Diebold counted ballots do not show anywhere close to the same voting patterns. Then check out Bev Harris Black Box Voting article. Our elections are gonna be rigged again folks unless we nip this in the bud. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE DAMNED COFFEE!!!!!
I'm not sure what planet the writer of this piece of self-righteous garbage resides on, but I live in the real world. While Obama is to be admired, he is not ready for prime time just yet-maybe in 7 or 8 years, he will gain experience, knowledge and common sense and the horse-trading skills needed to lead and get "work" done in the political arena. Right now, he is not fit to even shine Hillary's shoes and darn sure not fit to be in the same room as Al Gore.
All this race vs gender nonsense is just the boy's club way of kicking down a girl who is by all accounts just as "good" as they think they are. I will vote for Hilliary; this 56 year old women would like to vote for a woman for President just once in her lifetime and Hilliary is the closest thing to a President [who happens to be female] as I will ever get. She is smart, skilled, personable, strong, "clinical" and yes well schooled in the art of politics. She knows how to get "work" done in the legislative proccess and by all accounts has a number of accomplishments to her credit. As the past First Lady of our country, she advanced a number of projects with skill and a degree of success.
The younger women and many of the older women are often heard saying "I prefer to work for a man", well they are just the ones who hold other ambitious women back with this old outdated and sexist POV. So many of the younger women think they "earned" their way in the world, when in reality, us older gals have already marked the path for them. They just refuse to give credit where credit is due. All I can say, is "come onboard" give Hilliary a chance, she will make good on her promises or go down in flames with the effort.
"There is a generational divide between these two candidates." How so? Maybe you see it that way but I do not. Clinton in no way represents the Baby Boom radicals who changed things in the sixties. She is a mainstream democrat from any era and in no way embodies the ideals of my generation. The biggest difference between New Hampshire and Iowa was the closed balloting. In Iowa women who supported Hillary just because she was a woman were forced to defend her on the issues in various discussions. In New Hampshire that was not needed. In the voting booth woman could vote for Hillary without having to worry about her positions and take the Gloria Steinem type feminism to its conclusion. We need a woman just because she is a woman. And they did. Hillary helped her cause with her emotional display that motivated women to buy into the gender debate instead of the issues. The other factor was that the independents-i.e. mostly white men-preferred John McCain over a black man. And as far as your statements: "It is that generation of women who raised the sons - and daughters - who lead the young into war with people we have no quarrel with" A hand full of people created the Iraq war-not a generation. This author does not understand that war is created by a small group who benefit by it not by "a generation". And: "The point that the older women and men who vote for Hillary Clinton because she is a woman and say we shouldn't vote for Obama because race is not as important as gender have forgotten is this: we of a younger generation do not care about gender or race." As far as I can tell the "younger generation" cares about themselves to the exclusion of all else. There is not anti-war movement on any campuses despite the obvious illegality and immorality of the war, no protest against the loss of basic constitutional rights and not one school shut down to protest torture. Words are fine about how race is not important but the reality is there is a huge class divide in this country and it is getting worse. It is not about race or sex, it is about money and power.
I will NEVER again vote for the lesser of two evils. I will NOT pull down that lever for any war candidate. If either Clinton or Obama gets the nomination, I will vote for NEITHER. I'm sick of the clones!!! WE need to take our country back from shameful Nazi demon Rupert Murdoch because without a truly free press we are doomed. Welcome Everyone to the Disunited States of Fascism. If you didn't wake up before, you'll wake when you end up in one of Haliburton's Detention Centers. They are just waiting for you.
I found it curious that not one of the corporate media outlets I sampled made a mention of the fact that Clinton obviously copied the "It is personal" line from Edwards in the Saturday night debate, where he repeated that over and over. Her candidacy is so cynical, so superficial, so duplicitous, and so insulting that it makes me want to vomit.
Um, Gloria Steinem published her op-ed YESTERDAY, not this morning, as you start out by saying. And maybe because you would probably describe yourself as a "postfeminist" woman, you don't realize that the bra burning you so glibly cite was a creation of the media. Women burning bras while black men burned? Please. Study history. The greatest champions of abolition were white women--and, as Steinem correctly points out, women had to wait many years after abolition to get the vote. You sound like Ann Coulter.
I am almost afraid to visit the U.S., swipe the passport and all kinds of info turns-up, anti-bushco sentiments posted on CD etc.-this is serious.
Exit polls suggest Clinton's New Hampshire Pyrrhic victory was due to gender, not race. According to CNN, 46% of women went for Clinton, 34% for Obama. Among men, it was Obama 40, Clinton 29. The key thing is the female turnout. Women make up a total of 57 percent of the voters who showed up at the polls for the New Hampshire primary.
Combined with the fact that polls had predicted a strong victory for Obama, these results support a last-minute surge of sympathy among women for Clinton, particularly after she was mocked for showing emotion the day before the election.
I don't think this means a Clinton victory. Both camps will regroup and when people think it over, they will decide they don't want another Clinton White House. But Obama is going to have to fight harder now, because the big money and superdelegates won't desert Clinton yet.
When Edwards withdraws, most of his support will go to Obama, particularly if Edwards and Obama form a ticket.
The entire premise of the Steinem article is false. A black woman would not be elected because she would experience the additive effects of gender discrimination AND racial discrimination, when she implicitly assumes that it would be because of her gender alone. Bullshit, and Gloria Steinem knows it perfectly well. Both experience limitations in perceived "electability" -- whether one is "greater" than the other is beside the point since the real divide that separates them is based on AGE.
Hillary's supporters want her to run on "change" based on the excitement of her being a woman -- in order to sidestep the issue that she represents a
generation that is on its way out. Smart, but disingenuous. Like Hillary herself.
"I choose Obama because he has the power to move me..."
And were you one of those who chose GW Bush because he was a guy you felt you could enjoy a beer with?
Interesting how the media immediately launched into a 'racism or gender' discussion to try to explain why the results were so diifferent from the polls, when my first reaction was to think of voting machines and vote counting computers when I see results that differ so much from the polls.
If you think the system can be rigged in a general election, there's no reason to believe it wouldn't also be rigged in a primary.
PS ... if you think its only Republicans who would rig an election, you really don't know much at all about politics or the history of the Democratic Party machines in lots of places around the country.
Both side play dirty, and have for a long time. And I've always thought that the reason the Dems never went too hard after the Rethugs for their recent dirty elections is that the Dems were just as dirty in other places and didn't want the return fire that would come if they got serious in pursuing allegations about Ohio and Florida.
Let the swift-boating begin.
This is an email being passed around yesterday before the primary vote in New Hampshire. It came to me via a right wing relative. Who knows how it affected the results. It may have helped McCain to get the independent vote.
Me, color and gender blind with no affiliation to anyone's religion......and I'm sticking with Edwards for the now for his stand to eliminate poverty and his promise to kick lobbyist ass.
Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a
white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he
also attended Catholic school."
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any
direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi
school in Jakarta.
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who re now waging Jihad against the western world.
Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking Major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his
Muslim background.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level -- through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!!
ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT
use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran (Their equivalent to our
Bible, but very different beliefs)
Be vigilant. Pay attention.
Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man
leading our country?......NOT ME!!!
Peu m'import si le résultat des élections primaires à N.H. était juste ou volé. Quelle désolation si nous sommes réduit à un choix triste entre ces deux horreurs: un vieux soldat qui se perds dans une mentalité militaire, ou la visage souriante des intérêts particulaires. Quant à la plupart des autres, ils vont de mal en pis.
Ce matin je me sens en presence d'une frayeur familier. Le monde aussi doit s'inquiéter sachant que le cauchemar amèricain attends son réapparition l'année prochaine.
Hillary is a war monger whose version of feminism is to show she has balls. Following the third world path to female power, behind her husband. I am a 55 year old white woman, supposedly, according to the pundits and to this article's author, in Hillary's demographic. But if she is nominated I will not vote for her. Never.
Voxclamantis translated: It is of less importance to me if the outcome of primary elections in NH Was right or stolen. What desolation if we are reduced to a sad choice between these two horrors: an old soldier who is lost in a military mentality, or the smiling face of particular interests. As for most of the other, they are going from bad to worse.
I am in Hillary's demographic, and I am a lifelong feminist activist, but my choice is Kucinich on the issues. I will vote for him in the primary and for any Democrat against the Republican nominee. Our republic cannot survive another Republican administration!
That said, it offends sanity in our current circumstances that so many voters are taken in by a candidate just on his rhetoric. I love Obama's speeches, but there's no there there. His track record is awful.
When I discovered that he had voted for "tort reform" that was enough for me to see who was really influencing him. He takes the big money, too, you know. And worse, he is hiding in plain sight by avoiding taking a stand on issues. He has a horrific NO VOTE record in the Senate, and it was most offensive when he wouldn't vote on the resolution to declare Iran's Revolutionary Guards (a unit of their military) as a terrorist organization. Hillary gets no points for voting for it. But Obama gets points in hypocracy for criticizing others then not voting on it at all. And among his few votes are a number of bills allocating billions to the war on Iraq.
I think all the opposing candidates should expose his record in the Senate:
His voting record is not good and shows a shocking number of NV-not voting.
Here is his voting record.....when he actually did vote --
http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490
)This is a very good site to bookmark to check up on your own legislators.)
Thanks to eddievalgould above for graphically reminding us that the meanest "prejudice" we face today is neither racial nor gender, but RELIGIOUS, usually brought to us courtesy of "christian" church-goers who attend regularly while maintaining complete denial of the actual teachings of Jesus Christ. (In his case, a lying e-mail from a "right-wing" relative.)
Thanks also to CoMarc above for reminding us that we might already be seeing vote-count fraud.
Edwards and Obama have the "high-road" courage. Hillary Clinton is more like the chameleon copycat, yet even she is preferable on 1/20/09 to a Republican.
Why? Because Republican sympathizers are the ones sending the lying e-mails that eddievalgould received and printed for us above.
Unless there's been a change since 2004, New Hampshire uses hand-counted paper ballots and optical scan paper ballots. Both methods create a voter-verified paper trail and are unlikely to have been rigged.
Some people sit in front of their television, mouth agape, watching MTV's The Real World as their brain slowly turns to mush. Many Americans are hung-up on reality shows and believe that the 'Survivor' series shows are really unscripted! These same people crowd around their TV sets, hypnotized and mesmerized by the 'reality' presidential candidate circus going on.
"It's unscripted!"
"They are really competing against each other!"
Controversy rages over race, gender, position, experience, and history.
None of it is real. It's a soap opera. You are better off taking a walk or knitting.
i am a green party edwards supporter who will NOT vote for hillary, period. i know i'm not alone.
i agree with shirtsleeves. you do sound like ann coulter. i am appalled at the dismissive tone your article takes concerning women of previous generations, and your apparent lack of basic historical understanding of feminist movements. i agree with many of the points made about hillary clinton and am not thrilled about her candidacy either, but i believe you misunderstand where gloria steinem is coming from. first, please try to understand things that came before you, before you summarily dismiss everything except your own no doubt privileged perspective. as for obama, i am tired of the "unity" rhetoric he spouts. at this point in american politics, this is extremely insidious, as it suggests that anyone who wants to attack bush and his corporate interests (or anything else) is morally out of line. i am skeptical of obama for this reason. i am also skeptical of him because he never really talks about race or poverty. edwards is better on this.
check this out:
http://www.slate.com/id/2181646
Where are the pragmatists on this website?
It hasn't been about electing the best and brightest to the presidency in this country for over 40 years. All that we can hope for is some clown who is electable and who will do the least amount of damage in four years.
I would vote for Obama in a New York minute but do we really think that this election will wipe clean 400 years of racism in this country? Sadly, I predict that an Obama democratic ticket will result in a loss of the Mid-west and South…
Remember what's at stake; with a republican in the white house, that's 4 more years of a disastrous foreign policy, 4 more years of catering to religious fundamentalists in domestic policy, and 4 more years for this country to slide into repressive plutocracy.
I almost wish that we would go back to the back-room deals of the past to select an electable candidate that can beat the Huckabee's, McCain's, and Romney's.
The author makes it clear that she would NOT choose Barack Obama for President solely because he is black, nor would she choose Hillary Clinton for President because she is a woman.
I, however, think, that both of those reasons are actually good reasons for voting for either one of them, political issues and positions aside.
The point is that all male chauvinists in the country would be forced to accept a woman as their leader, just as all racists would be forced to accept a black man as their leader. This fundamental contradiction in their minds would surely force them to rethink their bigotry. Simultaneously, just as women would be empowered by a woman president in various ways to break their own glass ceilings, minorities would be encouraged by a black president to push for more rights and correct other racial injustices.
There is an argument out there that women leaders have been politically reactionary, Margaret Thatcher being a prime example. Still, I believe that women presidents are a major step toward defeating sexism on a very basic level of perception; I don't know if such studies have been done in the countries that have had women presidents. But the U.S. president has so much visibility all over the world that a black man or a white woman in the presidency could have unforeseen positive consequences across the world.
None of these candidates are going to dismantle the U.S. imperialist war machine anyway, and I doubt any of them is going to take on the corporations the way they are promising. I don't see anything wrong with attacking racism and sexism in the meantime. As for attacking racism VERSUS attacking sexism VERSUS other forms of oppression such as poverty; I don't know why so many people (including Gloria Steinem) are trying to argue that one is less important than the other. They are all forms of oppression that need to be attacked.
Women who felt they had to 'shove their kids into daycare'? Pull on pants, play golf w/ the boys & forget they ever had kids? Are you kidding, what universe are you from? If you have children, are you independently wealthy or perhaps simply pull in enough money to work from home so as not to be away from your kids, or do you have a significant other who's primarily responsible for the working away from home/earning part? If you don't have kids but suppose you might someday, do you think you might possibly have to shove them into daycare at some pt? Hillary Rodham Clinton is one thing (I prefer Edwards), but your stated view of an entire generation of women leaves me w/ one thought: Dream on & good luck. Good luck if you ever have kids of your own & find yourself in a position where you have to do some juggling, as most women do, for whatever myriad possible reasons (but ultimately because a single income just doesn't cut the basics of living for a lot of average check-writing joes these days).
jennie9 and shirtsleeves, thanks for saying what I thought as I read this nasty little diatribe about women of my generation. I was part of the early feminist movement, and I was just as concerned about racism, war, and other social issues as I was about the suppression of women. (I never burned my bra - I just stopped wearing it among other vestiges of oppression.)
Women like this author, who were not subjected to the social, economic, and political male chauvinism that was rampant in this country prior to the 60s and 70s are not in a position to disparage those of us who initiated the changes that have occurred. It's wonderful that they want to continue the fight, but a little respect for the work done by the movement's founders might be in order.
It reminds me of a young Puerto Rican man with whom I workd for a few months about 20 years ago. He was a college student and a very conservative one, too. He made comments to me about how he just could not understand why blacks and other people of color had been so militant and angry during the 60s. He had no idea that without these early protesters, he would have been very unlikely to be working at DuPont as an exchange student engineer from a prestigious university. (Yeah, I know it could have happened, but it was not very probable.)
Women who didn't live through Father Knows Best morality can't imagine how pervasive the male superiority myth was. I remember one of those FKB shows in which the parents were having an argument. The father announced that the argument was over. When the mother tried to continue, he said (paraphrased), "I said the discussion is closed." And the mother meekly retreated. That's how it was. It began in the home and extended to the work place, entertainment and politics. There were no women starring in police dramas or action flicks, no Buffys or Dark Angels or Captain Janeways, no female lawyers winning big cases. Times have changed because we fought for it.
Having said all this, Hillary Clinton makes my skin crawl. I do not plan to vote for her, and I cringe at the prospect of her candidacy. There are many reasons that the first Clinton presidency was horrid for the middle class, as outlined in a rash of current articles. Unless Hillary Clinton is far different from Bill Clinton, we can expect more corporate shilling, more handouts to the rich, a continued expanding in the divide between the wealthy and everyone else and more "free" trade agreements.
I also find Obama to be far too slick and centrist, although it would be easier for me to hold my nose and vote for him against any of the clowns on the republican ticket. Same goes for Edwards. Kucinich is still my choice and will be until I'm forced to decide whether or not I can vote for the lesser of two evils.
I choose Obama because he has the power to move me
Can one learn to move one's self for a change? The whole world is laughing at subjugated America. Vote for the humble SERVANT, who inspires NOBODY, but who TAKES ORDERS from the PUBLIC WILL.
When are Americans going to CLUE IN to the concept of an EMPOWERED COLLECTIVE?????
RichM -- I noted the significant ramping up of populist rhetoric after Iowa also. It's like bulb suddenly went on over the Clinton campaign's head.
A correction to the article: add another zero to the Rwanda body-count. Up to a million people died.
I was only surprised at the quickness with which both Clinton and Steinem resorted to the old habitual wealthy White Woman (WWW) schtick in their responses to Clinton's loss to Obama in Iowa.
This idea that there is some inherent gift of extra priviledge for white women who have attained or married into wealth, power and access to the bedrooms and gavels of power-sharing with wealthy anglo men will not die, will it? How is it that in some way, while men of color and working women slog away to achieve some degree of a level playing field in jobs, childcare, wages, education, healthcare, housing, and social regard, WWWs' idea of equality is that they automatically deserve more than either, are more electable, deserve automatic entrance into the hallways of the elite rich and have had more essential levels of experience simply because of whom they marry and/or sleep with (all while overtly or passively assuring their corporate benefactors that they will do nothing to disturb the sexist/racist staus quo for the majority of working people in any meaningful ways)? To them, anything less is sexism.
As I said, the speed at which these women resorted to the employment of the old, historically fractious, racist arguments is the only surprise. I was waiting for Clinton to say almost exactly what she essentially did... that she, as a white women who gave up being a paid lawyer to marry into the ultimate milieu of power, is more electable that a Black man, regardless of the fact that her record of holding elected office is actually shorter than Obama's. That, through giving away their autonomy and participating in the dominate sexist paradigm of patriarchy and priviledge in a status quo model marriage of power and convenience, a WWW deserves to be delivered into the only equality they will accept.
If women like Pelosi, Clinton, Rice, Thatcher, Fienstein, and others of their ilk are any indication, being granted the "more equal" status only means they will protect that access for themselves and their WWW friends and colleagues because they deserve it MORE than others, and that they will then be obligated to stand in the way of real change.
The split between race and class that has dogged the feminist movement lives on, thanks to Hillary and Steinem. And the unfortunate thing is, if New Hampshire is any indication.... it works!
Need a candidate who has the right combination of appearance attributes to win it all in 2008? Condi Rice is your person.
If substance, rather than appearance, is more important, I'm afraid that the change-mantra-babbler, triangulating-Thatcherite, Hillary Clinton
and the change mantra babbler, good-lookin'-but-so-far empty-vessel, Obama,
and the Robotic Romney,
and the delusional and crazy Guiliani,
and the running on empty, pro-war horse McCain--
are all left wanting.
My choice for this election cycle? Dennis the K. or Ron Paul. Humdrum, borderline boring, but smart enough to take the testosterone out of this Viagra mad country with delusions of grandeur. To save our souls (not to mention our hides) we need to become more like Great Brittan after the sun stopped setting on their empire.
Dr. Wu, the last of the big-time thinkers.
Well Tim1234, you have made your point, but everything is always about race and yes gender. Women comprise 51% of this country's citizens and yet do not have a majority of power in any branch of government. Women, since the beginning of recorded time and still in many countries are considered little more than beast of burden. Gender has always been the defining line about who is given respect and who is not treated well. Women did not get the vote until 1920 - a full 50+ years after the abolition of slavery. I will vote for Hilliary, not because she is a women, but because she has all the above mentioned qualities. Her strength and calm demeanor during her husband's trials with the media and Kenneth Starr were greatly admired. . .I only wish I had some of her strength. She is a LEADER and that is the reason I will vote for her, assist her with campaign support and volunteer my time. She is this countries' best hope for a bright future AND she knows how to balance a check book.
What a piece of work. I just love the premise, neither race nor gender!
Yet, the author comes right out in the first sentence and blames the "older generations"
for supporting the "status quo". Well, well, well. What have we here?
Age is the issue at hand! Let's see if I can paraphrase, All you old people, and I mean to specifically point out, all you old white (hue)
women are to blame for NH! Okay, got it?
I have to admit the rising frequency of Obama supporters who appear to have exactly the same script about Obama as the author.
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ps. good retort by shirtsleeves
Let's see. The voters are tired of the partisan, militaristic status quo, so a plurality of New Hampshire Democrats vote for a candidate who is at least as hawkish and divisive as George W. Bush--a fortiori, at the same point in her career, far more. I'm sure her new personality du jour, cooked up from the menu proposed by consultants, has helped. No one cares that she hasn't shed a tear for the 4000 Americans and million Iraqis who have died in a war, founded on a patently fraudulent casus belli, that she has always gleefully supported; it's enough that she choked up about the difficulties of campaigning, riding on her husband's frayed and semen-stained coattails while portaying herself as a feminist, a strong and self-sufficient women while Bill talks as if he were running for reelection. At least she seems to have discovered the first person plural.
I hope no one paid her for this shit.
The antidote for oligarchy politicians is direct democracy.
The MSM is shoving a race between Clinton and Obama down our throats.
There is not a statesman amoung them Dem or Repug. They all make me sick.
I want to see signs that say "Tell the Truth". I will never see it.
As a registered Dem I will vote for the delegates committed to John Edwards. If I have the choice of Clinton/McCain next year I will write in Pat Paulsen.
WMD
Gulf of Tonkin
Remember the Maine
Every generation falls for this BS !
Talk to your children and young people who are so idealistic..straighten them out.
I worry so much about the generations to follow....approx 50% drop out rate in large cities..........they will feed the war machine. And have nothing to come home to...thank you for all who voted for Nafta etal...You criminals sold out 2 generations so you could make personal profits. When the economy collapses as it will, the rich will certainly be prepared....everyone else will suffer..
It won't be a pretty picture people.
Study history even if itis just the last 150 years !
If the lawyer described above had been just as charismatic but named, say, Achola Obama instead of Barack Obama, her goose would have been cooked long ago
But we do have an Achola Obama today - Cindy Sheehan. Cindy proves that gender doesn't matter. Gloria Steinem's feminism served the empire well, inadvertently or not. The empire was powered by cheap fossil fuel and gluttonous consumption - and how could the consumption become gluttonous without women entering the work force? The capitalists' goal was a separate job, house and car for every American. How else to grow the gluttony? Now Americans are working 50 to 70 hours per week to support Gloria's "most powerful nation on earth". Did Gloria Steinem help enslave American women to the capitalist machine? Gloria should be advocating human solidarity instead of feminist empire.
I enjoyed your article. Although a baby boomer woman, I most certainly don't want Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic nominee. I am disappointed to see all of the old Clinton administration officials standing behind Hillary. That doesn't look like change to me. Even if the tears were real, they were shed for her floundering campaign, not anything else. If she is elected President, I just hope that the rightwing nutjobs in Congress, who hate all things Clinton, are tossed out in the process. Who wants to live through more years of their obsessive hatred?
I love to watch Barack Obama & John Edwards. My top preference is Dennis Kucinich, who hasn't a prayer in this race, because he's just too short, or just too weird, or not pretty enough, or whatever…to be elected by our shallow culture. Obama, however, I believe, has the ability to make people want to forge something new, and positive, together. He seems smart enough to surround himself with progressive people as President.
However, to me, this is a glaring error from you:
"That generation which marched the marches that gave us the lives we now lead cannot stand to lose control. They want us to go so far and no further. "
I am pushing 60, yet as progressive-thinking as ever. Of course, I absolutely want you to go farther. I want progressives in your generation to take control, wrest control, from the criminal fingers on the levers of our government today. They should be tried and jailed for treason.
You found some things that Ms Steinem said "insulting". Fair enough. However, when I read some of your categorizations of *my* generation, I found them insulting to people like myself.
I "marched the marches" decades ago. Not as a 'movement' leader, but a thoughtful young adult, hungry for new leaders, for hope and for new progressive directions for our country. However, there were many university students in my youth who certainly supported the status quo, from that illegal war to the discrimination against women to the assassination of Allende.
The fact is, most of the 'hippies' or 'radicals' or 'anarchists' or whatever those groups called themselves, abdicated once they realized there would be no revolution. Their analyses of those terrible times were pretty accurate. But, it would appear that the bulk of them had no stomach to take the reins of government and steer it in a better direction through elections. Instead, ~ and I am generalizing here, because most comments about the rebels of that era suggest that the entire generation felt the same ~ too many would pride themselves on refusing to be part of "the system". The result shows. Too many people of that generation, who saw through the lies of Richard Nixon, for instance, allowed themselves to be blinded by disgust. They didn't see the value of running for election.
My point is that the particular people you noted have never really HAD "control" in your context. As a generation, they never took control. Most of those in power today never "marched the marches". They were too busy getting their draft deferments while thinking about their own rightwing revolution.
If you ask me, there's very little separating these two candidates, notwithstanding Ru Freeman's ageist, sexist, racist rant kindly proffered by Common Dreams in lieu of a substantive piece. Obama is every bit the political animal that Clinton is minus the balls. E.g., wasn't he a no-show for the vote on the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment? Get a grip and pull your head out of your ass, Ru.
It's packaging and image creating emotionally potent oversimplications.
Look at the woman who made Hillary cry with her question then got mad when Hillary turn her tearful moment into an attack. That sent her into Obama's arms though she had said she doesn't identify with men. When she was listening to Edwards at his rally she couldn't understand what he was saying.
Pathetic. I am being held hostage to all these voters who pull the lever that is attached to their heart rather than their mind.
This is the same old, same old. Millions of voters whose minds are shaped all their lives with the world of a corporation, making decisions about political leaders based on soap opera like qualities instead of facts and issues.
We have this bloc, probably the majority of Americans to thank for putting the moron from Texas in the WH and now will get some DINO (democrat in name only) who'll have just as many corporate ties and nothing will get done...again.
eddievalgould:
I got the Obama Muslim Monster Man e-mail from a person I went to high school with, and I promptly replied asking her to please check this type of info out before forwarding it to anyone (I think I've lost a friend. Oh well). What I don't like about Obama is that to me, he's cut from the same musty cloth as the other front-runners--as much status quo as the next Joe. Rhetorical pie in the sky maybe, but, baby, voting records don't lie.
Those who speak of generations make me cringe anyway. Age doesn't mean -----. Young nice guys become old nice guys and old asses used to be young ones. It's the person that counts.
You can always spot the people who hold age as an important indicator, weather the multi-earringed store clerk determined to stamp you as "ma'am" or "sir," or the boomer pseudo-mogul who wants age to trump everything.
How many times did this woman mention her "generation" in this article? Ridiculous, and if she volunteered for the first Clinton campaign she isn't all that young anyway.
" I choose Obama because he has the power to move me and the diplomatic skill to speak for both sides of the Palestinian conflict - the conflict which underlies every other foreign policy debacle this country has been in, the reason why of the 0.17% that the US gives as foreign aid, the majority goes towards supporting Israel, not assisting in poverty alleviation, indeed, towards actually perpetuating the state of deprivation in Palestine. I choose Obama because he is able to be an American for America from his hair to his toes and also be for the world. For the generations that followed the boomers, these are vital skills and Mrs. Clinton lacks them."
I have now read that quote three times, and it is still as partisan and muddled as the first time. One may find any number of reasons to explain ones support for any candidate but speaking to that support with clarity of vision seems impossible these days.
Bending over backwards to ignore Obama's hypocracies and utter lack of experience, his avoidance of voting for controversial positions and his refusal to state with positivism that he will remove us from Iraq simply cannot be ignored or even sublimated to some absurd definition of why Gen Xers should vote for him. Or why Boomers do not.
We are caught in a culture that seeks heroes, and when none make themselves evident we are forced perforce to create one out of whole cloth. Of all the arguments for or against a candidate none points out the silliness of todays politics more than partisanship concerning either the melanin content of ones skin or the combination of chromosomes in ones genes.....
There is no candidate, republican or democratic, who demonstrates the greatness necesary to lead us from the swamp we allowed George Bush to lead us into, not a one, not Kucinich, not Gravel, certainly not Ron Paul, the greatest charlitan and most dangerous of them all.
As Robert Scheer points out: If Hillary wants to cast herself as a populist, she's going to have to repudiate a lot of her husband's "achievements." Like NAFTA, the telecommunications giveaways, the financial service industry giveaways and welfare "reform."
Utter cow droppings. I truly wish stuff like this wasn't posted on Common Dreams. Sure everybody has an opinion. And this one is as good as average.
Silly me, I thought this was a progressive website. Where did all these Hillary supporters come from? What a difference a few months make. We've been reduced to bickering over which corporate kleptocrat we should vote for...sad
The only reason that Hillary Clinton won in the NH primary is because her staff engaged in dirty tricks in the form of a flyer and phone calls which deliberately distorted the pro-choice voting record of Barack Obama.
It was almost surely a bit of racism, the GOP crossing over to vote for Hilary Klanton, emphasis on the Klan, and crooked, rigged voting machines that gave war mongering, soft on fascism HRC her New Hampshire victory. HRC, is like her husband a closet case Goldwater Republican and racist. In 1992 right before the election Bill Klanton OK'd the execution of a black retarded kid. How's that for giving the Klan what it wants. This is racist damn country, and all people had to do is just vote for Poppy or Ross Perot to defeat racism in that election, but sadly that wasn't the case. Bill Klanton is obviously the worst president in history other W.
Folks, *this* Edwards supporter would vote for Hillary over Obama in a heartbeat. Obama is an empty vessel, all talk, little experience, and because he talks well without substance, it makes me suspicious of him Since I think both of them are pretty much cut from the same cloth, I'll take Hillary (and Bill) over Oprabama. If those of you who claim they won't vote for Hillary if she's the nominee, thanks, you'll deserve President McRomneyBee. Too bad the rest of us will have to suffer for it.