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France Best, US Worst in Preventable Death Ranking
WASHINGTON - France, Japan and Australia rated best and the United States worst in new rankings focusing on preventable deaths due to treatable conditions in 19 leading industrialized nations, researchers said on Tuesday.
If the U.S. health care system performed as well as those of those top three countries, there would be 101,000 fewer deaths in the United States per year, according to researchers writing in the journal Health Affairs.
Researchers Ellen Nolte and Martin McKee of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine tracked deaths that they deemed could have been prevented by access to timely and effective health care, and ranked nations on how they did.
They called such deaths an important way to gauge the performance of a country's health care system.
Nolte said the large number of Americans who lack any type of health insurance -- about 47 million people in a country of about 300 million, according to U.S. government estimates -- probably was a key factor in the poor showing of the United States compared to other industrialized nations in the study.
"I wouldn't say it (the last-place ranking) is a condemnation, because I think health care in the U.S. is pretty good if you have access. But if you don't, I think that's the main problem, isn't it?" Nolte said in a telephone interview.
In establishing their rankings, the researchers considered deaths before age 75 from numerous causes, including heart disease, stroke, certain cancers, diabetes, certain bacterial infections and complications of common surgical procedures.
Such deaths accounted for 23 percent of overall deaths in men and 32 percent of deaths in women, the researchers said.
France did best -- with 64.8 deaths deemed preventable by timely and effective health care per 100,000 people, in the study period of 2002 and 2003. Japan had 71.2 and Australia had 71.3 such deaths per 100,000 people. The United States had 109.7 such deaths per 100,000 people, the researchers said.
After the top three, Spain was fourth best, followed in order by Italy, Canada, Norway, the Netherlands, Sweden, Greece, Austria, Germany, Finland, New Zealand, Denmark, Britain, Ireland and Portugal, with the United States last.
PREVIOUS RANKINGS
The researchers compared these rankings with rankings for the same 19 countries covering the period of 1997 and 1998. France and Japan also were first and second in those rankings, while the United States was 15th, meaning it fell four places in the latest rankings.
All the countries made progress in reducing preventable deaths from these earlier rankings, the researchers said. These types of deaths dropped by an average of 16 percent for the nations in the study, but the U.S. decline was only 4 percent.
The research was backed by the Commonwealth Fund, a private New York-based health policy foundation.
"It is startling to see the U.S. falling even farther behind on this crucial indicator of health system performance," Commonwealth Fund Senior Vice President Cathy Schoen said.
"The fact that other countries are reducing these preventable deaths more rapidly, yet spending far less, indicates that policy, goals and efforts to improve health systems make a difference," Schoen added in a statement.
(Editing by Cynthia Osterman)
© 2007 Reuters
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Show AllI try to avoid saying it thanks to Limbaugh but I think Rush would agree with this one! "ditto" to greenerthanthou
thank you greenerthanthou for helping us keep our eyes on what is most important
But wait, how many animals are tortured and die in American drug/product testing? And the US health system still sucks?
Maybe it means there is something wrong with this highly diseased and sicko society. US society gets what it deserves.
The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated ... I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. - Mohandas Gandhi
People still dying of appendicitis in the US? So what? we have more TV sets and cars, and our rich are really, really rich! So, we are still better!
Dead last! At least our health insurance CEOs are getting rich. Go watch SiCKO and then ask your Congress person why hasn't s/he signed on to HR 676 (although about 80 out of 435 have).
kathyodat
VOTE FOR A HEALER...VOTE FOR DR. RON PAUL
!VOTE FOR A HEALER…VOTE FOR DR. RON PAUL" (!)
Huh?!
Ron Paul is a proponent of a more extreme version of the unfettered dog-eat-dog capitalist system that put US healthcare in such a dismal situation to begin with.
So what else is new!
So what if health care is at the bottom of the list, We got SUPER BOWL and WORLD SERIES and HOLLYWOOD!!!
Americans don't want cures, they want drugs.
The drug companies' TV ads are very successful despite their having to whisper the side effects of the drugs.
Quit whining and go buy big pharma stocks.
I almost died from my appendix bursting. The doctors could not figure out what was wrong with me. Thankfully there was a visiting doctor from out of town who did a special test, and they finally operated on Tuesday night. I got sick on Friday. You can imagine what kind of shape I was in by then. :(
Health care in the United States is scary. Of course the Congress, whose salary we pay, get the best of care and attention.
And the great progressive hope, Obama, receives health insurance industry money at a rate second only to HRC. But he's cute, don't you think?
This is unpatriotic. The US is never last.
We're Number One! (in preventable deaths)
USA! USA! USA!
strange, how countries like the demonized cuba ,altho not mentioned here , cuba is ranked very high on healthcare . in hungary , workers must take rest and relaxation for the purpose of preventive care , how sensible. no matter how great our medical wealth may be , it is not available to those that need it the most.like alot of great stuff in america , it is a private club and only opens its doors to a privileged few. i want to say that there are those in the medical profession , that still have hearts , bigger than their greeds , but unfortunately they usually save their mercies for those overseas and not enough for those here at home. we need more philanthropists,here in america(come home, bill gates and warren buffet, too.) the true meaning of the words in our constitution "the right to pursue happiness" really means the right to a good education , affordable healthcare and jobs, for without these basic rights,happiness cannot bloom.
Not only are we last in preventable, but we are first in lost time due to illness, asscribable, to people going to work sick and spreading their sickness, cause of (sick) sick leave policies, and no insurance to visit a doctor, seems like an analysis, of this lost time would show that a single payer system would more than pay for itself in increased productivity, and of course happier people, heard of the Happiness index???
"So what else is new!
So what if health care is at the bottom of the list, We got SUPER BOWL and WORLD SERIES and HOLLYWOOD!!!"
good point...we have the best fluff that credit can buy!
sorry to hear of your emergency, lillulu, hope you recover. my wife had a stroke last year and they still don't know what caused it exactly despite running up tons of bills. She had an MRA and blood tests ordered weeks ago - we still haven't heard back. You gotta love this system!
PJD, sorry , i haven't found anyone perfect ,yet ....so i'm going to vote for the one that still speaks 'american' and holds up the constitution and pressure the good doctor , later about health care reform..............
When younger, I experienced a medical horror story.
The incident occured in Jeff City, MO. My wife (at the time) and I possessed no health insurance.
One night, I collapsed and started to vomit at almost regular intervals. My wife called an ambulance service (this was before 911); when they finally arrived, the medical team didn't immediately start working on me.
While I was semi-conscious, I listened to my wife (who was both crying and hysterical)pleading with the medics to transport me to an emergency room.
Evidently, they would both medically intervene and haul my sorry ass out of our apartment only if my wife promised to pay the ambulance company 100.00 in return for their services. (A hundred dollars was a lot in the mid-'70s).
The medics finally started checking and hoisting me after my wife and they struck a deal.
While they were haggling over the price of admission, I, once again vomited clear liquids; however, I vomited blood the second time.
Later, in the public hospital, it was diagnosed that my condition was caused by a combination of bleeding ulcer and a gastro-intestinal infection.
Ron Paul is called libertarian, but he is vehemently antichoice, and seems much more willing than any other so-called prolife candidate to bring an end to reproductive freedom. His followers all insist he's not antichoice, but he is. Read his website, and his own words on this issue. You will be left with no doubt whatsoever where he stands.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles/?tag=Abortion
thundermoon, you are right that is a very important issue...but right now i am more concerned about being surrounded by enemies that bush made and i would also like to see us get back to living by our constitution and enforcing our amendment rights. also , i do not want a nuke plant in my backyard. we can pressure dr. paul ,later about the issues of which you speak. we may have the time to do so , if we elect the right person.
"The fact that other countries are reducing these preventable deaths more rapidly, yet spending far less, indicates that policy, goals and efforts to improve health systems make a difference"
Preventable deaths are not the only measure by which the US system of capitalist extremism falls behind. At the rate we're going, the capitalist club will be behind in every way very soon. This trend is enabled by Demok triangulation in full force today. This is one of the many reasons why progressives are giving the Demoks/Repuks "no quarter".
Well, it's funny (but I'm not laughing). I'm a U.S. citizen, but I have relatives in Ontario. My uncle, who's a Canadian, has had knee replacement surgery, heart surgery, and generally the best of care whatever his ailments. He doesn't have to wait that long to get treated, and it costs him nothing. AND, my uncle's heart specialist told him that he would treat his sister (my mother) for free if she would come to Canada for a visit and an appointment or two. Every time I bring this up to some of my friends in the red state where I live, I get shouted down by people who act as if universal healthcare is an abomination. I don't get it, and I guess I never will.
Well this should help to quiet some of the strong proponents in the US of a insurance company run medical care system and their criticisms of the Canadian medical system. Although Canada came in 6th in this survey, it is still a long way out in front of the US h(w)ealth care system. Someday the politicians are going to get the message that universal health care is a greater issue than they would like to believe or at least the private sector insurance industry would like us to believe. Putting profits before people's health is just wrong.
"certain bacterial infections" I wonder what that means?
And who knows the purpose or function of an appendix anyway?
Ron Paul no way....absolutely not!
And we have "viable" presidential candidates who assert that health care is strictly a matter of personal responsibility. Why are we a nation if we don't care for each other?
I wonder how long it will take mericuns to wake up and realise just how much they are screwing themselves over and over again, all the while saying "universal healthcare is evil socialism!" Thankfully, the rest of the developed world is at least a little bit more enlightened than these delusional morons.
Truly, I'm looking forward to the day I'm proven wrong, but for now, I will not hold my breath.
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"If for some reason you are not willing to lead, leave it to the rest of us. Please get out of the way." (Kevin Conrad)
Good luck getting the message out. Folks who view nationalized medicine as akin to Stalin taking over will always parrot "The U.S. has the best medical system in the world" and no amount of facts will get through to them. Or such has been my experience.
I think it's curious that Repugs reject Darwin's theory of evolution but firmly believe in social darwinism.
Although MMoore did a great job waking Americans up to the pitiful condition of our health care system, for him to place all the blame on the health insurance industry is almost negligent. The pharmaceutical industries play just as, if not more of an important role in this sad state of affairs. By shifting the starting point of the debate to WHO gets access to the fancy drugs, the more important issue from which debate should begin is DO we even need them in the first place.
The importance of drugs and surgery in cases of emergency medical situations cannot be overemphasized, but the fact of the matter is that most "preventable deaths" can be drastically reduced not through more access to expensive drugs and surgery, but rather through education and natural medicine i.e. diet, lifestyle etc. Simply put, Americans have completely bought into the multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical model of healthcare. Americans are a ridiculously overmedicated society- the scary fact is that this model of corporate healthcare is spreading throughout the entire world.
I'd have voted for Ron Paul -- back in 1776 or so when we were an agrarian nation, prior to electricity, the internet, space age, modern medicine, etc.
Indeed, since Ron Paul doesn't seem to have modernized the original message, I'm concerned he's an anachronism at best, a fake at worst.
"US Worst in Preventable Death Ranking" but ..but.. we're still the greatest nation on earth....right?
Face it, for most of us our nation has become a wretched prison from which we can't escape. The U.S.A. sucks. Just try and get treatment for a chronic health problem if you don't have health insurance. Even if you can afford the services of an MD he's more interested in making his next boat payment than he is in listening to you whine about your petty problems.
Universal Health Care would be a start. Treating sick people and throwing them back into the streets because they are homeless isn't exactly a great idea either. Lately doctors and nurses are getting infected with MRSA's that are bred in conditions of poor health care. Maybe if THEY start getting sick they will back treatment for the rest of us.
pangolin, over four years ago, thousands of doctors endorsed a single payer health care plan, a form of "Medicare for all" in the Journal of the American Medical Association (which is hardly a red rag).
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0813-03.htm
The California Nurses Association is working hard to pass single payer health care, including handing out SiCKO party packets (including SiCKO DVDs) to people to host SiCKO viewings. They are also working on getting HR 676 passed. Health care providers are on the front line of this disaster called US health care, and are the ones facing the insurance industry denying payment for lifesaving treatment. Go ahead and slam the insurance industry and hospitals, DO NOT slam health care providers. I include hospitals, bedause they are also resisting single health care. But our Congress won't address it (we know why: $) and the Ministry of Information (MSM) either won't talk about it, or spreads disinformation.
The Idiot in Chief, George W Bush, who suggests people can just go to emergency rooms doesn't know what he's talking about. They are not designed for treatment, but emergency care and can only apply a patch and refer people to a doctor they can't afford to see. Doctors do what they can treating people pro buono, but the problem is too large for them to treat everyone who needs it. I know many doctors who donate time to free clinics and patients without money. Get real.
By the way, I'm hosting two SiCKO parties myself in February. I am offended by your comment, but I realize you just don't understand the problem, or what health care providers are trying to do about it.
Kathy Jones, RN
None of the other countries in the survey has an immigrant population (who historically ARRIVE in this country with lousy health, and consequent high death rates.) of even half ours. That just might have something to do with this statistic.
Obama is so cute they coiuld make a Ken doll that looks just like him, but I'm voting for Dennis Kucinich. Hey, wait, wouldn't Dennis make a cute Ken doll. And what about Elizabeth.
Utter nonsense--America has the finest healthcare system in the world--If you don't beli4eve that just ask the HMO's, Big Pharma, the Republican party (or Ron Paul and all his upscale anarchists who call themseves "Libertarian").
Note to Dissident--
The correct terminology is "government run single payer, universal healthcare". Or single-payer Medicare for all. Right now the likes of Hillary, Barack O, and many other Dems and some Republicans are trying to corrupt the term "Universal Healthcare" to include unsurance companies and HMO's in te mix.
Both insurance and Big Pharma realize how serious public discontent is over this issue and they are determined to corrupt the discussion if they cannot make it go away.
SonOfPowerslave: "None of the other countries in the survey has an immigrant population (who historically ARRIVE in this country with lousy health, and consequent high death rates.) of even half ours."
That's a bit ignorant. According to INSEE statistics: "4.9 million foreign-born immigrants live in France (8% of the country's population). The number of French citizens with foreign origins is generally thought to be around 6.7 million according to the 1999 Census conducted by INSEE, which ultimately represents 10% of the country's population." (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France ) According to this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
"the foreign born have never comprised more than 16% of the U.S. population since 1675." Many of the immigrants to France are from North Africa, and have poor health.
For information, I'm a US citizen living in France, and was covered by French health care *even when I didn't pay taxes* (at the time I had just started freelancing and had a low income). When I was an exchange student, I also had French health care.
Nayoiba notes:
"strange, how countries like the demonized cuba ,altho not mentioned here , cuba is ranked very high on healthcare ."
Excepting for the fact that Cuba is ranked 39th among all nations in providing health care, with the US at 37th. Of course, as a third world nation that not only provides free care to all its citizenry and exports its doctors to places around the world I do applaud its efforts. We on the other hand have no excuse whasoever.
As to this poster's support for Ron Paul, well what can I say, more disinformation however unintentional. Paul's stance on the Iraqi war makes him attractive to those who refuse to research or fully comprehend how unjust, exclusionary and prejudicial is the libertarian perspective. Paul would end whatever control or oversight (limited under Bush of course) government has on industry, including the Health Care industry as well. If you think things are tough now.......
The US has the most expensive health care system because private companies try to create as many layers as possible and then they try to get as much money out of each layer as possible. At the same time the US system fails in nearly all aspects besides care for the really rich. Still, when you propagate universal health care you can be called a Communist or worse. That shows how intensive the brainwash has been in the US. No wonder, when you think how much talent and money is engaged just to keep everybody brainwashed (agencies, media, lobbyists, politicians etc.etc.). But the tide might be turning when you consider that the opinion on globalization and free market has already changed in the US with only 28% thinking that globalization the way its being handled is a good thing.
I have to agree that CA nurses are excellent healthcare providers and advocates for thier patients.
My mother invested in the right health care plan. She put my sister through medical school.
One night 20 years ago my mother didn't feel well, so my sister the doctor rushed over and made a house call, then took mom to the hospital where they promptly took her ruptured appendix out.
No paperwork, just service. That's what the U.S. doesn't have. Except for a very few of us, and of course everybody in the first world.
Well, if nothing else, the US is NUMERO UNO in selling weapons to the world. Way to go!!!
Why is everybody so sick in the United States?
I'm begining to think we were healthier when smoking was the norm, fried food was standard, there were hardly any gyms around and very few exercised, and we didn't have low-fat, no-fat diets, nor did we carry plastic water bottles of tap H2O everywhere we went, taking a sip or two every five minutes. And worrying about electrolytes.
Vera, correct on that!
Yet the government feels the best care is providing but paying hundreds of dollars a month to insurance premiums.
By the time people recieve the care they have to fill out as many forms and things as they do to buy a house or car.
I for one will not piss my money away to a sky is the limit system.
Who wants to end up in an er- with drug resistant infection because the hospital is too lazy to clean.
They used to have full time cleaning staff and kitchen staff in the hospitals.
Now they outsource to filthy people who do not know hygiene/
They do not save money in the courts fighting lawsuits.
I guess that is the consumer's fault also.
Poet, calling single payer universal health care "government run" is inaccurate and implies government control over medical decisions. This is the main reason most people are averse to single payer, the fear of government interference. Ironic, considering the disastrous consequences of corporate interference. HR 676 designates the government as the payer, but all medical decisions will be the province of the patient and medical provider of the patient's choice. Any state licensed professional care provider will be reimbursed for services.
kathyodat
This Preventable Mortality rate news should shouted from the mountain tops to debunk best health care is in the US MYTH and included in today's health care debate.