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You're Damn Right I'm Angry. Why Isn't Everybody?
I write articles each week with titles like "Everything I Need to Know About the Regressive Right I Learned In Junior High", or "Conservatism Is Politics For Kindergartners", or "Schadenfreude Is My Middle Name".
I regret doing so very much. Believe it or not, I really don't like spewing venom, sarcasm and rage all over my computer keyboard.
I particularly don't like it because I have friends who are conservative, and it's not my nature to trash-talk anybody, let alone friends.
Indeed, none of this is in my nature. I don't start fights and I don't go looking for them. I'm not an angry, bitter or mean-spirited person. But I can understand how I might be seen as such in the absence of the appropriate context, and it truly chagrins me that I might be so misperceived, and so negatively.
But I don't intend to change, and I don't intend to stop making the arguments contained in my rants. I'm angry for a very good set of reasons, and I'm angry because I care about my country just the way conservatives claim to. I'm angry, in short, because I'm a patriot and defender of the ideas that America is supposed to stand for. And what I really want to know is why those on the right aren't equally outraged?
I was a teenager when Nixon was being Nixon, destroying democracy at home, napalming civilians in Vietnam, conducting secret wars in Laos and Cambodia, employing racism to win elections. At that age I knew enough to dislike what I saw (and what I learned of what Nixon and McCarthy had done to innocent Americans even earlier, before I was born, in order to serve their political ambitions), but I didn't know enough yet to feel genuine rage at what regressives were doing to my country and to the world.
I began to experience those feelings in my twenties, first as truly sociopathically insane gun laws in this country helped to claim the life of John Lennon, and then as Ronald Reagan began to systematically turn his back on the poor and the middle-class in order to further enrich the country's already wealthy economic elites. I also felt deep shame and outrage that America - the country that had supported if not literally created every two-bit dictator in Latin America, 'our backyard', (and well beyond) for a century - began to murder Nicaraguan peasants in order to halt their struggle to free themselves from the economic and political tyranny of one of those Washington-run caudillo clients, the sickening Somoza regime.
Then I watched in disgust as Newt Gingrich and his merry band of infantile hypocrites impeached a president for lying about a consensual sexual affair, while they were themselves all doing worse, like dumping a wife while she was lying in her hospital bed recovering from cancer surgery, or fathering children with a mistress, or carrying on many years-long affairs.
All of this was truly noxious. Nothing to that point had prepared me, however, for the regressive politics of our time. And they have turned me very angry indeed.
Regressives like to call people like me Bush-haters, and so it is important to address that claim before proceeding, because the entire intent of hurling that label at the president's critics is to undermine their credibility. If you simply hate the man, they imply, you're not rational, and your critiques can be dismissed. But it isn't that simple - not by a long shot. First, it should be noted that the regressive right is far wider a phenomenon than just one person. It currently includes an entire executive branch administration, almost (and, just a year ago, more than) half of Congress, a majority of the Supreme Court and probably a majority of the lower federal courts, a biased-to-the-point-of-being-a-joke mainstream media, and tons of lobbyists, think tanks and profitable industries.
But as to George W. Bush, himself, I suspect it's quite fair to say that most Americans and even most progressives did not originally despise or loathe him. I didn't. I certainly didn't admire the guy, nor did I think he was remotely prepared to be president of the United States. (Nor, by the way, was I particularly impressed with Al Gore in 2000.) Bush campaigned as a center-right pragmatist (a "compassionate conservative", in his words), much as his father had been, and I expected that's how he would govern if elected. You know, more embarrassing most of the time than truly destructive.
I mention all this because it is important to note what has - and what has not - been responsible for my/our anger, and to make clear that attempts to dismiss that anger as some Bush-hating bias or predisposition are false, a ploy to destroy the messenger when one doesn't care for the message he's carrying. If Bush had governed like he campaigned I'm sure I would have disliked him, but neither hated him nor his policies, nor experienced the rage that I feel about what he's done to the country and the world. Frankly, my feelings toward another center-right Bush presidency would have likely been largely the same as my feelings toward the center-right Clinton presidency which preceded it.
But he hasn't governed anywhere near to how he campaigned, and he wasn't even elected properly, and I do in fact feel huge anger at the damage done. Moreover, I cannot for the life of me imagine how anyone - even conservatives - could feel differently. Even the wealthy, to whose interests this presidency is so wholly devoted, have to sleep at night. Even they have children who will inherit a broken country existing in an environmentally and politically hostile world, though no doubt they figure that big enough fences, mean enough private armies, and loads of central air conditioning will insulate them from the damage.
I don't mind that the Bush campaign fought hard to win the 2000 election. That was certainly a legitimate goal for them to pursue. But it nauseates me beyond belief that their agents in the Florida government disenfranchised tens of thousands of African Americans in order to keep them from voting Democratic. And it sickens me that they gathered up a bunch of congressional staffers pretending to be an angry local mob and stormed election canvassers, using pure Gestapo techniques to shut down the most fundamental act of democracy, counting the votes.
I don't mind that the Bush campaign took the election to the Supreme Court, even though they were simultaneously accusing the Gore folks of being litigious. What disgusts me beyond words is that a regressive majority of the Court anointed Bush president in a sheer act of partisan politics. And that they were so anxious to achieve that end that they repudiated all their own judicial politics previously espoused in case after case - from states' rights, to equal protection, to judicial restraint. And that they were so conscious of what they were actually doing that they took the unprecedented step of stating that no lasting principles were involved in the matter, that their decision would forever apply to this case and this case only.
Once in office, there was still the possibility that the administration would govern as it had campaigned, as a rather centrist, status quo-style government, perhaps especially tempered from arrogance and overstretch by the knowledge that the country was deeply divided and that Bush had in fact actually lost the popular vote. In fact, though, they did precisely the opposite.
The first order of business, certainly the top priority for the administration, and arguably the only thing they were ever completely seriously about, was their tax restructuring program. It was grim enough that the tax cuts, as under Reagan, where dramatically tilted in favor of the wealthy. But what made them especially disgusting was that - again, as under Reagan - these wholesale revenue reductions were not only not accompanied by expenditure cuts, but in fact were coupled with increased spending. Can you say "voodoo economics"? Bush's father once had, before he treasonously changed his tune to win the vice presidency (leading to the presidency) for himself. But he was right the first time, before he put personal ambition and transparent insecurity ahead of the national interest. And thus we've witnessed the only possible result of the combination of massive revenue cuts and continuing spending increases: astronomical debt, now well over nine trillion dollars in total, and rapidly growing. What I want to know is how can we - especially so-called family-oriented, so-called fiscal conservatives - not be outraged, not be scandalized, not be boiling with anger at the debt we have transferred to our own children, all so that we could avoid paying our own way, like every generation before us has?
I am outraged as well at how the administration polarized the country in the wake of one of the greatest traumas it had ever experienced. Let us leave aside the ample evidence demonstrating that the Bush team was asleep at the wheel before 9/11 - or perhaps far, far worse - a set of facts which is noteworthy in part because progressives did not use them to attack the president and score cheap but easy political points. But the administration did precisely that. It is disgusting - and it fills me with anger - how they used a national security crisis to win partisan political contests. How they scheduled a vote on the Iraq war resolution right before the midterm elections of 2002, thus politicizing the gravest decision a country can make by forcing Democrats to choose between voting their conscience and campaign accusations of being soft on national security.
It boils my blood that these chickenhawks - almost none of whom showed up for duty in Vietnam when it was their turn - could dare to accuse Max Cleland of being weak on national security, a guy who gave three of his four limbs to that very cause on the battlefields of Southeast Asia. How could they run ads morphing his face into Saddam's or bin Laden's, when his opponent - of course - took Vietnam deferments, just like Cheney and Ashcroft and the rest? And how could they accuse him of being weak on national defense because he opposed the bureaucratic reshuffling to create the Homeland Security Department, when Bush himself had also opposed it? That is, before Rove politicized it by inserting union-busting language applying to tens of thousands of civil servants covered by the act.
It nauseates me beyond words that this president could use the tragedy of 9/11 to justify invading a country which had nothing to do with that attack whatsoever. It enrages me that those who had the courage to oppose this policy so transparently deceitful (and it truly was - from the proof of the Downing Street Memos, to Colin Powell's charade at the UN, to the assurances that the US knew where the WMD were, to the rejection of the weapons inspectors' request to have two more months to finish the job) were labeled as traitors and worse for telling the truth. And that 4,000 Americans and over a million Iraqis have died for these lies.
And speaking of treason, what sort of looking glass have we all fallen through when the government of the United States exposes its own CIA undercover agent in order to punish her spouse for revealing administration lies about the war? When did that cease to be a cause of outrage, especially among our super-patriotic friends on the right?
How is it possible not to be angry looking at the destruction of Hurricane Katrina, and the bungled response of the government before, during and after that tragedy? Indeed, even journalists who had spent so many years licking government boots that their tongues had long ago turned black were moved to outrage at the magnitude of that failure, with the president meanwhile on a stage in San Diego pretending to play guitar at a Republican fundraiser.
I am outraged, as well, by one of the most insane and avoidable tragedies of all human history, the slow-motion holocaust of global warming. How can anyone not be angry at a political movement and a government that puts the short-term profits of one or two industries ahead of the viability of the entire planet? How can anyone not be mortified as we one-twentieth of the world's population, who generate one-fourth of the greenhouse gases causing the problem, not only do nothing about the problem, but actively block the rest of the world from saving all of us from this folly?
I'm furious because the Bush administration and its ideological allies have shredded the Constitution at every turn, destroying the institutional gift of those they pretend to revere (but only when it's convenient to upholding their own depredations). This president, who has gotten virtually everything he has ever wanted throughout his life and his presidency, once privately exclaimed in frustration at not getting something he wanted when he wanted it, "It's just a goddam piece of paper!", and that is precisely how he has treated America's founding document. His signing statements - probably over a thousand in count now - completely obliterate the checks and balances principle of the Constitution, its most central idea. His admitted spying on Americans without warrant smashes the Fourth Amendment. His fiasco in Guantánamo and beyond mocks due process and habeas corpus guarantees. His invasion of Iraq against the international law codified in the UN Charter, to which the United States is a signatory, violates the Constitutional requirement to hold such treaties as the highest law of the land. Altogether, Americans have never seen a presidency with such imperial ambitions, and anyone who cares about the Constitution should be furious. A year from now, it is quite possible that Hillary Clinton will be president of the United States (ugh). Would our conservative friends silently countenance, let alone viciously support, such a monarchy in the White House if it belonged to Queen Hillary rather than King George? I think not.
We could go on and on from here. This administration and the movement it fronts at least gets high marks for consistency. Everything they touch turns to stone. There's Pat Tillman and Terri Schiavo. There's the politicization of the US Attorneys and the corruption of DeLay and Abramoff. There's North Korea, Pakistan and the Middle East. There's the shame of torture and rendition. There's the wrecking of the American military and of the country's reputation abroad. There's Afghanistan and the failure to capture bin Laden. And much, much more. But above all, and driving all, there's the kleptocracy - the doing of everything in every way to facilitate the looting of the national fisc.
What an unbelievable record of deceit, destruction, hypocrisy, incompetence, treason and greed. What a tragic tale of debt, lost wars, stolen elections, environmental crises, Constitution shredding, national shame and diminished security.
All done by the very most pious amongst us, of course. Merry Christmas, eh? I guess those are our presents, all carefully wrapped in spin, contempt, and preemptive attacks on any of us impertinent enough to say "No thanks, Santa".
So, yeah, you're goddam right I'm angry about what's been done to my country, and what's been done by my country in my name.
How could anyone who claims to care about America not be?
David Michael Green is a professor of political science at Hofstra University in New York. He is delighted to receive readers' reactions to his articles (dmg@regressiveantidote.net), but regrets that time constraints do not always allow him to respond. More of his work can be found at his website, www.regressiveantidote.net
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Show AllWatergirl - I also appreciate your sentiment. I think after we take a collective deep breath another vital individual and collective choice/action is to let go of any fears we might harbor. Fear is contagious, leads to ill will, builds upon itself insidiously, and is easily manipulated.
The absence of fear is liberating and opens up a whole new universe of possibility. In my humble opinion, peaceful solutions are out there and can be achieved.
As painful and depressing as it can be to witness current events, it seems to me that many hopeful seeds have been planted in 2007. Hope is also contagious and hope is free. If we choose to work together how can things not get better?
A daily hearty laugh is also wonderful for one's sanity.
Peace,
Ken
Miftin, there are a handful of posters here who take themselves too seriously. Frankly, I am not sure if the shit hits the fan, I want them to be in charge. They smack of Feliks Dzerzhinsky and the Cheka after the October Revolution in Russia. I dont want to be purged by the extreme left or right. Hell, they are even against beer!
I'd like to put out a thanks to many posters here who have helped me learn so much, provided comfort, provided an outlet for frustration, and perhaps most importantly provided many "daily hearty laughs".
Here's for a 2008 where LOVE puts fear in its place.
Happy New Year Everyone.
Ken
Why isn't everybody angry? Because all us good Amerikans believe that our government is working for the common good, that our army fights just wars to spread democracy, that torture and extraordinary rendition are O.K. 'cause we're afwaid...vewy afwaid of terrorist boogeymen, that free market capitalism will save the world,that Jesus walked on water, and that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny bring good things to good Amerikan boys & girls. And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that God likes us best.
What amazes me most is that despite the travesty of the war in Iraq, despite Bush's war on the middle class and the poor, despite the lies, denials, and refusals of cooperation with federal subpoenas, the American public sits quietly grazing like a herd of not-so-bright sheep. What the hell has happened to my generation? Where is the "The whole world is watching" generation? Is it true that as long as we can shop, as long as our 401Ks exist, as long as our double incomes can pay for our McMansions, we will not revolt?
I'll tell you what would make us get off our complacent, self-centered asses and take to the streets: a draft. Bush will never call for one because, as dull-witted as he is, he knows that forcing the rich to scramble to avoid sending their kids to war will never be tolerated. It's fine as long as the children of the poor volunteer to lose their lives, or arms or legs - the poor have no power anyway. But let the child of the CEO of Bristol-Meyers get a draft notice and watch what happens. And if Bush keeps tweaking Iran's nose and gets us in an armed conflict with them, a draft may be necessary to build up a depleted, exhausted army.
I think Bush isn't satisfied with the title of "president." I think his and Vice President Satan's fondest wish is to declare martial law and become co-dictators, or Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip.
Dear Mr. Green,
as a German I absolutely understand and share your feelings of anger and disgust: I have been closely monitoring the politics of George W. Bush's tenure over the past seven years and the more I see, hear and learn about this neoconservative clique the more I feel hurt and deeply wounded.
I remember my mother's stories about the arrival of American soldiers in my home town at the end of WW II. She was a young girl then and she was so relieved that the Americans drove the last nazies out of town.
My father had been a Wehrmacht soldier for almost 7 years in Russia and France - always at the front lines, severely wounded several times. He was captured by American soldiers just in time before he could be sentenced by a Wehrmacht Standgericht for disobeying the order to lead his brigade into a murderous counter-attack.
He was kept prisoner of war for over two years in France and, although many comrades died of hunger or disease and some were abused or tortured in the camps he came out alive and free at last. He always felt a sense of gratitude towards the Americans.
I grew up with American GIs in the neighborhood, we admired them and we used to imitate their rolling r's. Later at school I was proud to be the first in my family to learn English. I started to love and study English and American language and literature and I loved the music of the seventies. I spent a year at an American university as an exchange student and I loved the openness of the academic life there. I was overwhelmed by the hospitality and friendliness of the people I met and I made many good friends with many of who I am still in contact today...
When the twin towers were distroyed on 09/11 I bought a bouquet of flowers which I took to an American GI family who lived in our neighborhood.
However, after all the lies and unbelievable atrocities which have since been committed, after all the arrogance and contempt, I feel deeply betrayed, deceived and abused.
Although, I know that most of my American friends feel very much the same way, I have not visited the US in those years. I cannot read American literature and I cannot watch American movies any more. It is like a deep feeling of cultural commonality that has been divorced. A bit like I had lost my second home.
Some Americans must have felt in a similar way towards Germany when Hitler unfolded his terror regime after 1933.
I am afraid it will take a while until I can visit America again. It will require some fundamental change in your country - I hope and wish that more people in the US will feel as angry as you are.
And I seriously hope our ignorant Angela Merkel will finally stop acting "Rotkäppchen und der Wolf" with George W.
I wish you all the best - with sincere compassion!
People are like cattle grazing in the field. They hear a noise and if there is no danger to them, they go back to grazing. We have very little herd instinct except to go with the latest fad like SUVs or what Oprah endorses. We get what we deserve. Unfortunately so does everyone else that actually thinks for themselves.
What a wonderful post ALJOSCHU. You likely are not Elka, a young girl who lived with us for a year as an exchange student, but you sure do have her fine attributes. We lost touch with her several years ago, the feeling was similar to losing one of our own children. Hopefully, we will clean up our messes here and you will feel comftorable with visiting America again someday.
Ken,
A public Happy New Year to You also!
I believe that some of us on CD are kindred spirits, despite the minor differences that make us the individuals that we are. Like you, I harbor little or no fear. Life's too short for it.
There's a part of me that'll always manage a wink and smile, however grim things seem. Some of us have a little of slice of something inside that cannot be disheartened, even if the universe were to collapse upon itself. Maybe we were gifted with something big when the goods were handed out?
Peace,
Paul Bramscher
This author said it all well for me. The anger needs to spread to more people. But I am merely an outside observer, a non-american. Too many can say that I have no right to an opinion as to what goes on there. MYOB, etc. But as a rational friend, I would ask, what the hell is going on down there. A societal collaapse if oyu ask me. Some one has got to take charge of the opposition. A few people, like the author, can see through it. So, can I. Why can't more?
"You're damn right, they aren't conservatives; they're reactionary, regressive, and reckless!!!!
And I wish that people on the left would stop calling them "conservatives"!"
Why let them get away with demonizing liberals all these years? As Gingrich instructed his demons, definitions make all the difference. Even "good" conservatives are fascist enablers now. And they are in both parties.
What to do ? Isn't it logical to do something that works ? Something that sends a message that is resoundingly clear, will do damage to the offending parties and can't be easily redirected against us. If you strike your jobs you will be replaced, if you picket, block traffic and such you will be arrested and lose your job and be replaced. If you talk a little loud you have started down that same road. In a society that lives paycheck to paycheck these are risks that will not be taken. So, what to do ? It has been suggested before but it isn't computing. Buy food, fuel and shelter and then wait. Go to work and come home. Send the kids to school and then back home. Buy that food and fuel from mom and pops as much as possible and go home and watch the news and wait. Many of you will be contacted. Within twenty-four hours there will be many very queazy stomachs wrapped in very expensive suits wanting to know what is going on and you can refer them to an article on Common Dreams by Mr. David Michael Green. And then let the games begin.
ArbeitMochiFrei
I agree with your point, it is all about materialism and spirituality.....
Until we recognize the true root cause of the chaos we are experiencing in our nation and the world, we will be incapable of solving our problems.
We are not experiencing a clash of civilizations as commonly held, but a clash between the evil forces of materialism, namely oppressive and unsustainable global corporate consumer capitalism, and the higher force of spitituality, namely a hunger for justice and a hunger for a higher purpose and meaning in life.
To me, working for a more just, compassionate and sustainable world is really about coming to know the radical and subversive mind of Christ.
Working for a more just, sustainable and compassionate world is in reality an emerging higher global consciousness that is showing humankind the only path to peace and the survival of our species.
After the rule of Constantine, 2,000 years ago, Christianity unfortunately turned to its' own ambitions of Empire, turning away from the mind of Christ.
Presently, the vast majority of Christians have been what I refer to as "the clueless faithful", and that is why the greatest failure in America has been the failure of American Christianity to transcend American culture.
I apologise to the secular for talking about religion, but I turn to the churches because they are the last remaining vestiges of community in America. It is in the comunities of our churches where a transformational awakening is in fact possible for radical social change to emerge.
And most shockingly to some Christians, this transformational awakening will be in keeping with the radical subversive mind of Christ that was explicitly against slavery, the waging of war, economic oppression, the unjust rule of the greedy monied elite, the hypocracy of religious authorities, and the evils of Empire.
MOON RAVEN -- I got your rage, and you've every right to it.
Here's part of mine:
ENRON's Lay & fake energy crisis was the agent of Bush's knife
into Grey Davis' political life, and CA, and Arnold rise from those
ashes is because he's best buddies with Rove & Bush.
It is particularly Rethuglican and repugnant that the people of CA
were tricked/lead and encouraged to sack Davis, as a direct result of
hidden manipulations - why do you think ENRON profited so well (for so
long getting away with so much)? Barbara Bush's family is a direct
descendant of 1840s Prez Franklin Pierce (the same Pierce with DEEP
holdings in Merill Lynch Fenner Pierce & Smith - of massive
ENRON profits) - so Geo the inferior is the direct descendant of two
"royal" clans of the greediest and power crazed fiends
Rove(rer)'s and Arnold's Dads were just like Geo the superior's Dad
(Prescott), only much worse. Karl & Arnold have direct Nazi SS
blood in their veins, whereas Geo the superior only had the
capitalistic NAZI ice to profit from WWII, while also building up
Adolf's reign during the 20s & 30s.
Arnold is no friend of humanity, and actually has been on record
often about his fascist and misogynistic beliefs (just not getting to
prominence in the MSM). His political speeches for current batch of
rethuglicans, follow word for word previous Nazi ones, even having the
same humongous pix and 3-story high blood red background coloration of
Hilter's rise to power.
Arnold's dad was Austrian, thereby an earlier Adolf adopter, while
also closer and more tightly connected to the 3rd Reich, while Karl's
dad Roverer was a major Nazi governor (in Germany) and SS officer.
None of the above is other than directly provable evidence and
history, including the recorded ENRON (energy brokers, grabbing
billions while killing a bunch of grandmothers with no power in the
winter) - jokes about how CA was not like the Titanic when it went
down, "because at least the Titanic still had its lights on".
¿Why do not people know the blood lines of the
vampires that are sucking America dry and soon to be lifelessly
economically busted flat?
Namaste … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … Mahatma Gandhi … … … … … … … … … …
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An excellent take on the Bush Administration. Reading some of the comments, obviously contributed by right wingers, helps explain why the nation will continue to slip ever further into economic and political oblivian. Right wingers aren't very smart people. In every discussion I've ever had with one of them they always demonstrate their stupidity and their supreme ignorance of American traditions of fairness and justice. All it takes to realize how far the nation has fallen is to read their comments about this article. Every comment is insulting and adolecent in tone and scope. That is truly the best they can do.
GREAT ARTICLE - VERY INFORMATIVE. THE SADDEST PART OF ALL = IT'S ALL TOO TRUE. BUT, WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON.
WE KNOW WHAT IS 'OUT THERE' NOW IS ONLY THE TIP OF THIS ICEBERG WE'RE ON - AND IT'S MELTING. THAT THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS DAILY PROVING TO BE THE MOST HEARTLESS, COLD-BLOODED,DECEPTIVE,INHUMANE REGIME ON RECORD IS MORE THAN APPARENT. IS A SO UNFUNNY JOKE HOW THIS WAR-MONGERING BUSH ALONG WITH HIS EQUALLY GREEDY CO-HORTS/BUSHITES ATTEMPT TO DECEIVE THE WORLD BY SPEWING THEIR FLIMSY JUSTIFICATION OF THIS UNLAWFUL WAR WITH IRAQ WITH WE NEED TO GIVE THESE PEOPLES A DEMOCRATIC FORM OF GOVERNMENT = EXCUSE ME = BUT THE LAST TIME I CHECKED = YOU CAN'T GIVE WHAT YOU NO LONGER HAVE. AND, WHILE HE STILL CAN'T/WON'T ANSWER THE SIMPLE QUESTION OF WHY HE COULDN'T DO SO MUCH AS SHOW UP FOR WEEK-END NATIONAL GUARD MEETINGS HE DOESN'T HESITATE TO 'SHINE ON' OUR MISLED ILL-EQUIPPED TROOPS TO THEIR DEATHS. HYPOCRITE.
HIS SMUG PIG-EYED SMIRK IS ENOUGH TO TURN ONE'S STOMACH. AND THAT ROBOTIC STEPFORD WIFE OF HIS ALONG WITH THOSE TWIN SPOILED DRUNKS HE CALLS DAUGHTERS ARE SOMETHING ELSE TOO. THE 'FIRST FAMILY' = RIGHT = FAMILY OF WHAT? WHY WEREN'T THOSE GIRLS EVER ARRESTED FOR THEIR UNDERAGE ANTICS IN THE BARS = WHY INDEED. THEIR MISDEEDS ARE COVERED UP THE SAME AS DADDY'S. EVIDENTLY, IT'S JUST THEIR WAY OF DOING - WHETHER IT BE AT HOME OR IN HIS STOLEN OFFICE. HE AND HIS WILL DO AS THEY PLEASE - THE REST OF THE WORLD IS TO DO AS HE COMMANDS.
THE GREATEST FEAR NOW - THAT HE'LL BOMB IRAN AS THE WAY TO STAY IN OFFICE - I AND MANY OTHERS I'VE SPOKEN TO PUT NOTHING PAST THIS ARROGANT INDIVIDUAL. REMEMBER - HE BRUSHES OFF THE DEATHS OF THE INNOCENT AS MERELY COLLATERAL DAMAGE. NOTHING MORE = NOTHING LESS TO HIM. HE HAS NO CONSCIENCE AND IS DEVOID OF ANY HUMAN FEELINGS. FOR THIS AND OTHER REASONS I SOMETIMES THINK HE MUST BE THE DEVIL HIMSELF INCARNATE TO EVEN HAVE SURVIVED WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO A REGULAR PERSON BY NOW.
PEACE = YES = BUT NOT AT ANY PRICE.
I no longer post here it is useless, no one listens, someone said earlier Marshall Law shall begin due to blh, blh. I have reiterated the reasons. The Posse Comitatus Act along with the John Warner Defense Act, with an episode, ie; the assassination of Mdm. Bhutto by Musharraf, CIA and a push from bush set it up. Suspension of Posse Comitatus, Marshall Law begins, bush our Fascist Leader 4Ever... I said preceding Mdm. Bhutoos assassination, Pakistan was a dry run.
You have no idea what is up with CODEPINK now, so until you know the truth I would not say uneccessary moronic, unintelligable ?remarks?.
I am a PATRIOT, ERGO I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK AND I DO ALL I CAN TO GET IT BACK AND I SHALL, WITH HELP.
There is still the Second and Tenth, yeah?
Au Revoir
should have read, 'Mdm Bhuttos'
JFaulkner,
I have the same problem with right wingers here and with friends and those in my family.
They mistake defending their insecure egos for having an opinion regarding some issue or policy. It's just like that Lou Dobbs interview on Democracy Now. People like this do not research or think, they just go with the first strong emotional reaction they have.
I don't like to put other people down either. But it is so obvious that the act this way because they are lazy and fundamentally afraid they are not smart enough to think critically. They are generally very threatened by anyone who has enough confidence to form real opinions. Hence the constant defensive posturing and "liberal, intellectual" bashing.
Their reaction is to belligerently "defend" some assumption they have never scrutinized because they are afraid of stepping outside their ego to learn actual critical thinking. Which is not about one's ego, but about challenging one's original assumptions.
Okay, it's agreed we all have things to be furious over -- no disagreement there whatsoever. Now what are we going to DO about it?? If nothing can be DONE about all of these injustices, then we live in a fascist country under a dictatorship, a police state, and the USA is a rogue state. Presidential elections are a sham.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." —Samuel Adams
Beans, Bandaids and Bullets boys and girls.
Get yourself and those you love ready for the tree of liberty is about to be watered.
It is perhaps easier for someone who doesn't live in America anymore, to advocate a violent uprising.
Peace and Greetings, Moonraven!
While I both recognize and heartily endorse your informed opinion regarding what represents itself as a citizenry of the land of my birth, you will not find many who are willing to lay their lives on the line for the rights of the innocent, including their own children.
You know as well as I that the reason for this is due to the fact that westerners are generally speaking the most indoctrinated humans on the planet. Just one look at the factual history of europeans proves the point.
Secondly, they are not about to commit ANY acts directly targeting the known enemy to human brotherhood and the unity of all natural things until they themselves....can´t get their favorite brand of sugar coated garbage.
It is not such as these who will save the planet from the machinations of their barbarian materialist culture. They are themselves, for the majority, part and parcel to the problem itself.
Again, as witnessed by the factual history of europeans.
Your concept of blocking WADC has real merit though, and perhaps we would all do well to consider...other means....of achieving precisely the same end. In many places around the planet at the same time...
Still, beyond any real hope, there is of course a marginal possibility that at least 2 million of those who have also managed to see the truth regarding our awful existence would in fact converge at the same time and block off the city in order to capture, alive if possible, the criminals at large.
As for the risk of death, what is life worth if one will not stand for those precepts that separate homo supericus from mere hairless apes pretending to be men?
Nothing.
Besides I have every confidence that there are more than enough veteran, informed cadres who will be prepared to take the necessary steps at the proper time.
The net is key to this, and so is......disinformation.
PLEASE try to think along the lines of the enemy and use this at every instance.
Rage, just as fear, must be properly channeled in order for it to be of real service.
Viva Zapatistas!
Oh, by the way, this for KEM PATRICK:
The issue, again, is not "American". It, just as the war for our planet, is global in scope. Just do what you can wherever you are, KP, and you will have helped the cause immensely.
After all, everybody can´t be Real Marines. Thank goodness. For that sort of ability is just one of a myriad of skills we all have to use cooperatively, not just to remove the barbarians, but more importantly to heal the Earth and establish a sane system of governance and ecological balance around the globe.
Rest Easy. The Day is Ours.
This sounds like the Howard Beale method from the movie Network. You are suppose to stick your head out the window and say how mad you are about things all at once as a form of mass social protest. A more effective message might be to not buy gasoline on ..say...Wednesdays. If the news picked up that gasoline purchases drop significantly every Wednesday, the message would be delivered.
Corporations run America. You can get as mad as you want while your 401k mutual funds buy more corporate stock. We can not create change for the better until we stop buying gas guzzling SUVs and monster homes that take a ton of energy and money to heat and cool. The energy is required by all of us and when the wealthy drive up the prices and create scarcity by being wasteful, you can get as angry as you want and nothing will happen.
Moonraven wrote: "The National Guard will kill some people. So? They killed people at Kent State, at Ole Miss. Consider that these deaths will be the ONLY honorable ones in recent history."
Funny moonraven forgot to lament the men, women and children slaughtered at Waco, Texas in 1993, by the most ethical administration in United States History. Was their deaths honorable? She seems to forget that the Constitutional rights of those people (including "the children") were ignored while being incinerated and that the military vehicles, aircraft and personnel on loan from Fort Hood, then under the command of Gen. Wesley Clark (Now Mrs. Clinton's advisor) seems to violate a certain Congressional Act. . .
Janet Reno stated publically, "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." Therefore making it easier for the next ethical administration to lead the sheep to the furnace . . . ala Nazi Germany. To my "sheeple friends" Be afraid, be very afraid!
"Veritas Vos Liberabit!"
Bear in mind that there is always a possibility that the person who is advocating a violent uprising may in fact be an agent provocateur from the other side posing as a leftie radial. Just sayin' there has been plenty of infiltrators over the years and with the internet it has become much easier to impersonate whomever you want. Heck what do you know about anyone here, myself included. I am always uneasy with strident voices and violent solutions. A march of several million to DC surrounding the white house and Congress but not necessarily taking them over will be far more powerful (e.g. the Civil rights marches of the 1960s). If the military fires on peaceful protesters that would send a shock around the world. If people storm the white house and the military responds, then there will be mass confusion and sorting out of who did what first. THe only problem is how to get people to DC. We have a contingent from Madison going every couple of months supposedly for the big march. Some of us cant take time off work or have childcare obligations. Like I said, things have not gotten that bad yet.... I am at the point of, OK this creep has 1 year, I will suck it up and deal with it and hope and pray he does not fuck it up and hold a glimmer of hope despite the election shenaginans we may get someone marginally better. OK it's new years, I am trying to be an optimist.
Sorry but the people of the US aren't going to do crap. The true constituancy for peace is those few people who stand on odd streetcorneners with peace signs and can barely stand to talk to each other.
The rest of the nation is hoping it will go away if they drink enough.
I would reccomend some very strong herbal therapy and maybe an escort. You're not getting any satisfaction at the ballot box.
The depression this spring will solve it all.
THERE are some people on this thread who have really edified me generally-but i must ask with humility-"who benefits when we eschew that left -right "thing" in favor of a "radical" center-which kinda assumes it? how can we change anything without acknowledging the ideological underpinning of the institutions which block the kind of reforms which those "radical moderates" would probably favor as finished products.our senate makes basic reforms europeans take for granted seem like utopian pipe dreams-hell,we don't even have direct election of the chief executive.we have an fcc which seems to think that its job is to see to it that newspapers are profitable from the point of view of their owners-the public interest in the free flow of info-not so much.hud,doj,epa etc have been politicized in ways that are well known to cd readers.furthermore,there is historical evidence that sweeping real ideological differences under the rug indefinitely is not a good idea.lefties built the military which won ww2,lefties rebuilt the middle class in this country,as well as market capitalism-abroad-all in the name of a common front-all for what? so that the boy king could deform that military? so that he could wreck the economy with his greedy,ideologically driven policies? i remember seeing people have their lives ruined in the 1950's because of meetings they attended,and remarks they made during the great depression.during the 1930's john foster dulles represented hitler's legal issues in the us,during the 1950's he served as us sec of state.nobody saw fit to question him about his relationship with the nazis.i could continue with this seemingly endless line of ad-hominems,but i won't because i am only scaring myself on the right wing nature of our national narrative.its the one most of us have in our head much of the time anyway.we owe all we have to this college of our betters,this concentrated oligarchy,don't we? seriously how can we ignore the role our class structure plays in the problems we face as a people ? i am not ashamed to ask "which side are you on"? biff,you better believe that the righists who run this dog and pony show are much more ideologically committed than we progs are anyway.the remarks overheard at a preppy country club,make this thread sound like a romantic walk along the beach.
No, the upcoming depression will not solve anything.
It will just make life in the Fortress more savage than usual.
I am flying there tomorrow to take the pulse--and expect to find a population without vital signs.
even my humor has crossed over to the dark side (at times)
The people of the U.S. have been emotionally decapitated. To express public anger and outrage is no longer acceptable in the U.S. If you do express it, you are considered dangerous, you are called mentally ill, you are treated as a threat, and you are deemed out of control. As a result you are subject to being tasered, to being cut off in public forums, and are subjected to public derision. The result of emotional decapitation is that people resort to what is viewed as acceptable "reasoned", "dispassionate", "flat-affected" attempts to convince others that we are on the road to fascism, that a wrong done to one is a wrong done to all, that the global war on "terrorism" is actually a global war on all who oppose the imperialism of a global ruling class, all the while attempting to avoid "crossing the line", alienating the person, offending their sensibilities. Thus with emotional decapitation comes intellectual cowardice, unwillingness to speak the truth fully and clearly, the inability to speak in true solidarity with those being brutalized by the military might of imperial power around the world. Once we have accepted the idea that expressing anger is dangerous and a form of mental illness, and once we allow expression of anger to be treated as behavior requiring tasering, police brutality, censorship and public ridicule, we have entered the world of the silence of a fascist world. To witness what that looks like, watch the movie "V for Vendetta". Once we all have capitulated to the blackmail of those who seek to take from us our righteous indignation, they have us right where they want us. I will not be silent. David Brookbank http://spokanepoliceabuses.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/83/