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The Goddess of Serendipity

by Joyce Marcel

Winter is the time of cold and dark, when we implore all our gods and goddesses to bring back the light and warmth of the sun. So I thought I might put in a plug for the goddess I worship most. Her name is Serendipity.

Loving Serendipity is a corollary of living in the moment, because you have to have a certain amount of awareness to recognize her presence, and a certain flexibility of mind and soul to take advantage of her gifts. You can’t make too many plans. You can’t have too many fixed ideas.

On the simplest level, Serendipity is “the gift of finding valuable or agreeable things not sought for,” according to my battered dictionary.

So, for example, when I recently stayed in New York with my friend Andrea, and we started out for the Whitney Museum to see the Kara Walker show, and decided, after walking just a few blocks, that we first needed the sustenance of Japanese food, and had a lovely sushi and tempura meal, and started talking, and started baring our hearts to each other, and started crying, and our friendship deepened, and we never reached the museum - that’s Serendipity at work.

I’m not saying we wouldn’t have had an emotional and soul-changing experience at the Whitney. It’s just that instead, we found something valuable and agreeable and entirely unexpected on the second floor of a light-filled Japanese restaurant.

To worship Serendipity, you have to love the thrill of the chase. For example, go into the supermarket with a shopping list and I bet you come out with pretty much everything on the list. Compare that with shopping in the “dented” stores along Route 12 in New Hampshire, where bad and discontinued new product ideas (flavored water for dogs, anyone?) meet dented cans and slightly out-of-code cereal and vegetables. You never know what you’ll find there - a stack of fine chocolate bars, or Rao’s pasta sauces (the best), or organic cookies almost out of code but very tasty, or tissues in slightly crushed boxes - all at heavily discounted prices.

The joy of denting, however, has faded somewhat as times get harder. Too many people are shopping there now because they have to. The thrill of the hunt is diminished in the face of people’s need.

TJ Maxx, on the other hand, which sells high-end leftovers from the big department stores at bargain prices, was designed for people like me.

Although my worship of the Goddess of Serendipity is somewhat lighthearted, she has also served me well in serious situations. For example, 18 years ago she brought my husband to me. I was looking for a roommate. The new sports guy at the paper happened to be looking for one, too. He was big and gruff and silent, and I didn’t know anything about him. But one day, while I was talking to another reporter, he shot a comment across the desk that was so funny and so on target that it literally dropped me, laughing, to the floor. Luckily, by then I knew enough about humor to realize it can’t exist without insight and intelligence. We signed a lease together soon after; six months later, we decided to take a chance on love.

My affection for the Goddess of Serendipity has led me to become wary of bright and shiny new products, which keeps me from overextending my credit cards. Instead, I’m a raving addict of the flea markets, resale shops and auction houses on three continents. You should see my house - my husband calls my decorating style “Guatemalan thrift shop.”

There are drawbacks to living your life by improvisation and unpredictability. For one thing, “Be here now” means having a shaky grasp on the past and the future. I could be called flighty and flaky. I probably won’t ever be wealthy. Doing one thing and one thing only? Keeping my nose to the grindstone? Keeping my eye on the prize? I don’t think so.

I chose a profession, journalism, where searching for the new and unexpected is a primary object. Being an observer of the ever-changing life around me is a deep part of my core personality. I write every day, but always about different people and things. It would take a different god, the God of Probability, for me to ever be “discovered” and elevated to fame and fortune. So far, he’s managed to turn a blind eye to my endeavors.

Still, in a time as fluid as this one, maybe adaptability and being open to change is a virtue. What most of us don’t like about the present political climate is that the presidential candidates of both parties seem cardboard and scripted. Terrified of making a false move - or a real one, for that matter - they are enemies of the Goddess of Serendipity.

Things don’t always happen as they’re supposed to. The even money shot doesn’t come in. Goliath gets his ass kicked by David. Five U.S. Supreme Court judges elect a president. The world moves randomly and impulsively, and the ability to recognize good and bad and respond quickly and with some fluidity will be crucial to our next generation of leaders.

Serendipity doesn’t mean bumping around blindly and accepting what comes. The Goddess doesn’t happen to people in a vacuum.

She trains her disciples to be astute enough to take advantage of good things when they unexpectedly appear; to be smart enough to see things changing and to adapt; to be wise enough to see patterns and apply hard-gained knowledge to them; to be creative and not bound by a fixed way of thinking; to be quick and decisive; to make mistakes and learn from them; to be bold.

The Goddess of Serendipity has brought me great pleasure over the years. I’m grateful that I seem to be wired, emotionally, and intellectually, to take advantage of her gifts.

Happy New Year, everyone.

Joyce Marcel is a journalist and columnist based in Vermont. A collection of her columns, “A Thousand Words or Less,” is available through joycemarcel.com. And write her at joycemarcel@yahoo.com.

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48 Comments so far

  1. st john December 26th, 2007 1:53 pm

    I, too, love the Goddess, Serendipity. She is most welcome in my life and often brings me what I neither expected nor asked for. She is so much wiser than I that she knows what I truly NEED for my awakening. It is not comfortable as it makes planning very challenging, as Joyce has indicated. There is a wonderful book, which came to me Serendipitously in a used book store just after I had been thinking about this very concept. It is by Marcus Bach, uncle of Richard Bach, who wrote Illusions and Jonathan Livingston Seagull, among other books. The World of Serendipity; Unsought, unpredictable, valuable things can happen to you, is the title and I actually located it in my pile of books as I was writing this post. To live in this energy is both exciting and mind-blowing. The more one invites and allows its presence, the more she conspires to confirm belief in her.

    I could tell so many stories, but I think it is much more beneficial to discover her powers and passions independently, with a little help from an open mind and welcoming heart.

    peace,
    st john

  2. Poet December 26th, 2007 2:12 pm

    Dear Joyce,

    Happy New Year to you too! What a lovely gift of insight and wisdom you have given to those who will accept it. Especially in this coming year of change (or perhaps not) there can be no greater counsel than to pay attention to what is going on around you and how you feel about it.

  3. ClassAct December 26th, 2007 3:09 pm

    Observing the ever-changing is important, but it may become a distraction. There is nothing more difficult than seeing the obvious because it is ever present before one’s eyes.

  4. dreamertoo December 26th, 2007 3:17 pm

    Happy News Year!

  5. dreamertoo December 26th, 2007 3:22 pm

    Seeing what’s never present can be difficult, too.

  6. danielgeery December 26th, 2007 3:52 pm

    The more you are open to serendipity, the more she comes into your life. This is particularly true in teaching, that giving profession, where one can rely on serendipity for daily and even hourly visits. Finding serendipity is a matter of being open to her. She proves to me that the universe is an intelligent place, and a good one.

  7. Skyler December 26th, 2007 4:35 pm

    Dear Joyce,

    Happy New Year to you, too! Here is a YouTube video of an “overnight” success and an example of the Goddess in action. I’d never seen this man before and was absolutely amazed. Overlook the reference to the idiot Idiot at the beginning.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnVDHzUAj30

    You write so well! I love your articles and find inspiration in each one. Serendipity will find you as well.

    Best,

    Skyler

  8. AdeleTheCzech December 26th, 2007 4:36 pm

    Dear Joyce:
    Although I’ve never met you, I know you’re lovely — your spirit shines forth from every line of your prose.

    Happy New Year, and may the goddess Serendipity grant us earthdwellers a modicum of peace.

    Adele

  9. geoff29 December 26th, 2007 4:52 pm

    ok,

    I rarely mean to be the voice of dissent, but would someone like to explain to me why if I lived in a tenement off Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn, barely making ends meet, a bullet hole in my window where someone took a pot shot at me a few weeks back, why I might take offense to this article?

    Or find it probably naively arrogant?

    Ok, let’s say I were appalled by humanity’s wholesale destruction of the natural world for the sake of materiality?

    I appreciate the sentiment. I do, but it’s like:

    Price of a serendipitous(?) trip: ?

    Congratulate yourself for your understanding of an esoteric life concept: ?

    Put everything else on your master card.

  10. st john December 26th, 2007 5:01 pm

    geoff29,
    your attitude shows through your words and whatever circumstances you are experiencing in your life are a reflection of your beliefs and attitudes about that life. This may not be the answer you are seeking and, I cannot judge your circumstances except through my own biased filters, but what I know to be true is that there are factors playing into each event and experience which must be left to the Unknown for sorting out. In the meantime, practice looking into your conditions for signals of your deeply held beliefs and how you may make some new choices about how you feel about them. While the events may be beyond your conscious control, how you perceive them is totally up to you. Look for others who may share your circumstances and have used them to succeed. I wish you the best and know that your pathway is guided by higher powers than you could know.

    peace,
    st john

  11. geoff29 December 26th, 2007 5:03 pm

    guess again.

    but I’m having a little difficulty here with this idea that you too can look down on my paltry existence and tell me that there’s something I couldn’t know.

    Would I not also take that as an insult?

  12. lpenek December 26th, 2007 5:35 pm

    geoff29, oh come on, there’s a difference between realism and cynicism, especially the day after Christmas.

    In my opinion, not to myself put a damper on things, there’s no difference between serendipity and probability. The Godess and God are the same (I won’t go into that Mars/Venus crap). It’s like the difference between picturing a photon as wave/particle, they are equally valid models.

    The old Chinese proverb said it best:

    “When opportunity arises, be ready.”

  13. st john December 26th, 2007 5:46 pm

    As I was answering geoff29, I struck a key errantly, and lost my comment. And, there is even something for me to learn from that.

    No insult is meant on my prior comment. My life philosophy, which is still in the creation mode, is that every person, place and event of which I am aware holds information about me, who I am and what I am here for. Because as a human I have limited conscious awareness of all the factors involved in a particular event/experience, I must trust that there is a meaning for me in each one. That does not release me from judging them and sometimes whining about “why me”; but in retropspect, I can almost(still a work in progress) always see that higher truth in the experience. I agree with Ipenek’s Chinese proverb: “When opportunity strikes, be ready” or put another way, Luck is the conjunction of preparation and opportunity.

    peace,
    st john

  14. dreamertoo December 26th, 2007 6:19 pm

    Life lived one moment at a time, without triumph, failure or expectation.

    Happy Next Experience!

  15. lsgtrip December 26th, 2007 6:21 pm

    So, correct me if I am wrong, but does the author really believe that there is some Goddess or force called serendipity that is intevening in subtle ways to give us what we really need? It reminds me of the movie Clash of the Titans, where the gods are moving people around like chess pieces.

    I don’t know, but my New Age BS meter is pinned on 10 about now.

  16. st john December 26th, 2007 6:23 pm

    dreamertoo - YES Yield Everything (to) Spirit. BLAME = Big Lie About My Expectations. NOW = Nature Opened Wide

    peace,
    st john

  17. freethinker December 26th, 2007 7:00 pm

    I so loved this story I appreciate how serendipity occurs in my life everytime I stay in the present moment and watch for little or big signs that allow me to open doors of opportunity! It happens more often than not!

    Oh…and the name of my shop that was very serendipitous in how it came about was aptly named “Serendipity Fair Trade”…how ’bout them apples???

    peace!
    Mindy

  18. geoff29 December 26th, 2007 7:52 pm

    especially the day after Christmas.

    are you assuming that this period of time has special meaning for me? I thought that was no longer what one did in abstract company?

    I could just as well say after reading this article that serendipity is for those who can afford it.

  19. st john December 26th, 2007 8:04 pm

    skyler, that is amazing! Thanks!

    peace,
    st john

  20. dakotalin December 26th, 2007 8:06 pm

    lsgtrip and geoff29 - I don’t know if Joyce really sees Serendipity as a “conscious” force, and it’s a bitch that for so many people, just surviving makes it nearly impossible for them to have time to see it in action, and be glad. For myself, it does seem that when I can just be in the moment rather than trash it for what it’s not, I often have experiences of what feels like grace.

  21. figmentzenguitar December 26th, 2007 8:50 pm

    Serendipity knows there are no coincidences. Is your meter on 11 yet? Sounds to me like some people need to read Joseph Campbell. And the Upanishads. And the Tao Te Ching. And meditate.

  22. lsgtrip December 26th, 2007 9:19 pm

    Sure, the universe revolves around my ego. I’ll be sure to meditate real hard on that.

    By the by, figmentz, you’re awful presumptuous to believe I haven’t read those works or meditate. Sounds to me like you need to read Ken Wilber. Please look into the pre/trans fallacy regarding the elevation of prerational states of mind to the transrational. As both are non-rational they are easy to confuse, hence, this article and most of the comment about it.

  23. geoff29 December 26th, 2007 11:21 pm

    personally, I thought of it as just kind of preachy - you know people who are in on the know. disciples.

    assigning virtue to one’s self. that’s always tricky.

    what others are lacking - not of sufficient sensitive higher subtle spheres of understanding consciousness.

    A kind of snobbery that my experience has come to interpret as class unconsciousness, obliviousness, and, therefore, not equality with human predicament and then maybe even “serendipity” at all.

    But then I couldn’t sit through queen elizabeth’s oration without feeling a little sick either. The aristocracy know how to live I guess. the rest of us need to continue and try to improve.

  24. esarge December 27th, 2007 12:11 am

    Those of us who see the serendipity in life tend to forget just how lucky we are to be in the positions we are, so we do come off sounding naieve and preachy sometimes, like we think we did something to deserve our good fortune. I happen to believe that we draw things to ourselves and that the energy we put out into the universe comes back to us eventually, but I could be living in a fantasy created by the confirmation bias. I certainly think it sounds arrogant and presumptuous to point at the life of another person and make any judgements about how they got in the position they are in. I’ve lived long enough and observed enough to see that karma does not work the same for everyone - there are really rotten preople out there who don’t seem to get their due and there are good folks who get shit on.

  25. claudius December 27th, 2007 12:58 am

    I have to agree with esarge. Serendipity is nice, but it is a far cry from reality. geoff29 also gets it right when he describes apathy, which exists among much of our public, who seem unaffected by the fact that our Constitution has been shredded, we have complete failure in our political system by two political parties engaged in abject complicitness in crimes, and an economy sliding into recession. Serendipity is when George Bush and Dick Cheney go to prison for the remainder of their lives, voters awake out of their apathetic comatose state and throw out all members of the Congress, and develop a passion to regain their country. Reality dictates the unlikelihood of any of this happening soon. Sorry to burst the wishful thinking bubble (one certainly has a right to that), but I choose reality.

  26. claudius December 27th, 2007 1:10 am

  27. seraphicmom December 27th, 2007 1:19 am

    how do you spell…syncroniscity ?that is what i believe in and witness,each and every day,of my life….

  28. claudius December 27th, 2007 1:24 am

    Why is the edit not working??

  29. whatfools December 27th, 2007 1:44 am

    Synchronicity

    Pity those without an invisible means of support…

    Edit works for me.

  30. nspire December 27th, 2007 2:29 am

    We must learn to go:

    beyond mere sight, toward insight

    beyond mere touch, toward feeling our planet

    beyond mere hearing, toward listening to humankind’s voice

    Namaste … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … Mahatma Gandhi … … … … … … … … … …
    « We must be the change we wish to see in the world »
    « There is a sufficiency in the world for man’s need but not for man’s greed »

  31. matti December 27th, 2007 6:25 am

    Geoff29-

    You are of course, completely right in calling some of these people out on their “new age” self-justification bullshit.

    The genuinely troubling part of this (to my eyes) is they seem to be TRULY SINCERE, and completely unaware of the mind-numbingly self-centered ignorance of their outlook. As crazy as some of these “mystical” beliefs may seem, the craziest belief these people espouse is the idea that they are “the good guys” in whatever situation, debate, or war comes up.

    Obviously even a “progressive site” such as CommonDreams would get old if EVERY article was about the “working class struggle” or the “disproportionate distribution of wealth” etc…But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect ALL ARTICLES HEREIN PUBLISHED to at least be written by AWARE ADULTS not naive children of adult age.

    It is as if the author is only now discovering “poverty”:

    “The joy of denting, however, has faded somewhat as times get harder. Too many people are shopping there now because they have to. The THRILL OF THE HUNT IS DIMINISHED IN THE FACE OF PEOPLE’S NEED.”

    (my caps for emphasis) It better be a damn sight more than DIMINISHED lady, it better be ELIMINATED! God, I hope this is satire and I look the fool, otherwise the Holy Odor of “progressive-ness” better never be apply to this woman again!

    On the subject of intentional ignorance. What the hell do you think those “dented” stores are for anyway? Economic Inequality has been built-in to this “country” from the get-go, and YOU only find the “joy of denting… faded somewhat as times get harder” WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK “TIMES” WERE LIKE BEFORE THEY “G(O)T HARDER”?! “Times” are ALWAYS hard for somebody in this economic system. The “joy” you derived from purchasing “dented” items when you could afford better was ALWAYS wrong! Get that through your head lady!

    Oh, and you’re wrong about T.J. Maxx too, whatever it was “designed” for, in my experience it caters mostly to women who could never afford those “high end” clothes except as “leftovers”

    As for the “react-ors” I’ll just focus on one thing someone who calls themselves “st john” wrote:

    “…and whatever circumstances you are experiencing in your life are a reflection of your beliefs and attitudes about that life.”

    What’s this a little “est” reprogramming leftover? I think if you meditate long enough, you might find why the smugness and superiority of your words has me semi-hoping YOUR “beliefs and attitudes” may one day “reflect” being beaten to death by the vengeful poor.

    A truly horrible, selfish, callous thing to write in response to the examples Geoff29 had given. MY “beliefs and attitudes” say SHAME and SHUN.

    All of this is moot, so I ask forgiveness for wasting all of our Time. For nothing could be more certain than that when it becomes clear that Cheap Oil is a thing of the past and the Money System that required its support falters the Levelling will come. Those having it done to them may well be SHOCKED to find that those doing it have little concern for the cute little beliefs of those who -consciously or not- benefitted from the unjust, greedy, self-righteous Inequality.

    It will, of course, be quite something to see, and I look forward to it.

    -matti

  32. geoff29 December 27th, 2007 9:44 am

    yes, one hates to admit that we have become spoilt children. And that our “serendipity” is as our supposed “freedom.”

    Why do those “others” despise us for the “Guatemalan thrift shop(s)” we’ve acquired in our homes over three continents?

    but, to be fair, I’m adequately persuaded that serendipity is free, a voice in the street, and readily available to anyone anywhere and not just on the shelves of stores. That’s the serendipity that interests me. Even if that peculiar phenomenon brings sorrow and loss.

    I would be sad to agree with the austerity minded, that perhaps a dose of that is required by this culture to return us to a level headedness.

    I however, do not exactly think it’s something entirely wonderful to look forward to. But, nature is out of joint, so, I believe someone once concluded, “let be.”

  33. Siouxrose December 27th, 2007 11:54 am

    Opponents of magic who argue for THEIR limitations, I get tired of playing spiritual Atlas to seek to lift your perspectives… but where we ARE in time, at this cross over between the 2200 year Age of Pisces (The great dualism) and Aquarius (The realm of higher, inviolate Truth) is that we confront paradox everywhere. I, for one, think this is probably Joyce’s most lyrical essay and I LOVE IT. Serendipity is surely not confined to any shopping arena, it’s all about the odd conjunctions of our fates and has been brought into literature since the times of Shakespeare.

    It is part of living in this time of paradox to UPHOLD all the wrongs, all the injustices, the economic disparities fueled by and for war, the resource depletion and to FEEL all these things and place ourselves in positions to advocate for a more just & sane world, while at the same time, allowing our spiritual natures, the portion of the self not confined either to logic, ego or mortality to swim the endless ethers and realize there are forces at work that rest beyond our perception.

    Where was the gift of flight before two brothers worked out the mechanical logistics? where was electricity until Edison recognized this invisible source? We are ever in pursuit of what we might become, our ideals like characters in grand myths posed against the oppressive forces that would thwart our best efforts.

    One need not ONLY validate the material plane and its obvious difficulties. What is gained by denying that which the mystics across the ages recognized? I mean it’s like adding flavor to the sauce/source of life! Spice, anyone?

  34. Siouxrose December 27th, 2007 11:58 am

    ESARGE: The whole point of karma (as Buddhists teach) is that you are not positioned to see its fruit within a singular lifetime. The circle will not conform to suit the square. It is what it is, and is a continuum.

  35. barely human December 27th, 2007 12:11 pm

    We monkeys want to feel better than we are.

  36. geoff29 December 27th, 2007 12:20 pm

    But YOU ARE the serendipitous spiritual atlas of the magical realms.

    or else this all falls apart, and there is nothing.

  37. buddhish December 27th, 2007 1:12 pm

    You said, “What most of us don’t like about the present political climate is that the presidential candidates of both parties seem cardboard and scripted. Terrified of making a false move - or a real one, for that matter - they are enemies of the Goddess of Serendipity.” I agree with this across the board EXCEPT in the case of Edwards. He’s been saying what he truly believes more and more, and standing up for not only the “little guy”, but the rights of ALL OF US to live in a country that’s not run by the corporations. He’s genuine and real and he’s not bought and paid for by special interests.

  38. nspire December 27th, 2007 2:28 pm

    As with the true music that is allowed to flow effortlessly through a gifted musician, by them allowing it and getting out of the way, while BE’ing the channel for it to find existence,

    the LIGHT of the true spiritual ones is allowed to flow effortlessly through a gifted aspirant, by them getting out of the way, and BE’ing the channel for it to find existence.

    We are all standing in the way of our light, and are more alike to the true saints and virtuosities of history, than we ever could have hoped for or believed possible.

    It is our own limiting beliefs and self-imposed framing of our life’s experiences, that creates the filters that isolate and separate from the infinite possibilities that are always (as Dorthy found out, late) “within us”.

    We are not dominoes cascaded along some curious and fateful toy circus, but “glowing actors of light” upon the stage of Maya (the illusion of reality), where some of us are a wee bit closer to the source of all, and have less of the chankerous pylons in our “eyes” than motes.

    This is the ultimate of democracy where everyone’s vote really does count, as we are all ultimately the reflections of the light from each other and the source of all (e.g. Namaste).

  39. nspire December 27th, 2007 2:35 pm

    And so YOU ARE, too …

  40. st john December 27th, 2007 7:08 pm

    matti-why the anger at my post? So I happen to believe that what I experience in my life is a reflection of what I believe, whether consciously or otherwise. That I offer that as a possibility to my brother, geoff29, upsets you or him, is also part of that reflection. No, I did not “do” est, but similar programs, and continue on that pathway. It works for me and is not always easy. Yes, your saying that the “smugness and superiority of your words has me semi-hoping YOUR “beliefs and attitudes” may one day “reflect” being beaten to death by the vengeful poor.” does hurt, because that is not my intention. Perhaps I will experience being beaten to death by the vengeful poor. Will that make you happy? Get revenge for your own lack of compassion for others? How did we drift so far from serendipity? I was the first post on this thread and I agreed with Joyce, adding some additional information. I totally believe in Serendipity, because I have and continue to experience it. I also believe that we attract to us what we need to experience to awaken. Sometimes it is very uncomfortable, even painful, even fatal, but it serves its purpose. I’m sure this will not make you feel any better because I have just further buried the knife of my truth into your heart, if you choose to feel that. On the other hand, you could just write me off as a New Age throwback and get on with your life. How would that be? Ignore me and look for the next one who rocks your boat. Or, just move along in peace and tranquility, no matter what. It is your choice. Not mine.

    peace,
    st john

  41. ZeroPointField December 27th, 2007 8:33 pm

    Play Yahtzee.
    Teaches you some similar things

  42. barely human December 27th, 2007 9:06 pm

    I hope you self-deluded “spiritual”ists never try your self-aggrandizing-without-being-upfront-about-it, victim-blaming-without-being-upfront-about-it lies on, say, a survivor of child sexual abuse. If so, I hope that survivor awakens you with a few well placed kicks.

  43. nspire December 27th, 2007 9:46 pm

    BARELY HUMAN — So for you, is it “victim-blaming” when the severely damaging excess baggage of guilt and shame, can be alleviated in part by having the victim seek peace by granting forgiveness of the perpetrator?

    Is it “self-aggrandizing” when the one who has perceived some past insult or damage, is able to become open once again to possibility in their life and come back in touch with their (stuffed and dysfunctional) feelings?

    Did you mean aggrandizing for the “victim” or the “self-deluded ’spiritual’ists”, as I suspect that many victims would be quite thankful for having had an opportunity to become grand again, or any assemblence of normality.

    Is your vengeful sense of justice unhinged when a victim doesn’t feel the need to return greater violence and hate to the perpetrator?

    What do you think that Jesus meant underneath when he suggested “that we turn the other cheek [when assaulted]”?

  44. barely human December 27th, 2007 10:39 pm

    1) No, forgiveness necessarily implies the other person has done something wrong. When forgiving works, I have no problem with it.
    2) Not the way I mean it.
    3) I meant for the “spiritual”ists.
    4) Sometimes, yes, when they turn their rage (which we all naturally and justifiably have) on those who are innocent, weaker, or on themselves.
    5) I don’t think he meant that everything that happens to us is either god’s will for our betterment or our own fault. And I don’t think he meant children should turn the other butt cheek, either. Sometimes people should fight back.

    I hope my answers make it clearer which “spiritual” assertions I object to and which I don’t object to.

  45. geoff29 December 28th, 2007 2:47 pm

    ok,

    so I had to indulge myself with a (maybe) last word on this, for the “spiritual crowd” who would naturally congregate to this article, like the bees, and who might serendipitously end up here again.

    And since I helped stir up bad karma, for which I am sorry, I would like to add that not all that comes in a package labeled, “goddess,” or “serendipity,” ie, is gospel truth for said crowd. Especially if what’s inside is over ripe or a good idea gone sour, or spoilt. A walt disney movie accomplishes the same end.

    read the text carefully, and picture yourself in the shoes of at least half the global population, the poor or the dispossessed, the unamerican, and you will find yourself offended. You will have to go outside of your experience to do this.

    I would only add that there is a kind of patronizing attitude to it, a sense of deserving which lacks humility.

    To argue that karma is responsible for one’s place in the world, or one’s good or bad fortune, or how one imagines reality to one’s self, is kind of offensive idea. An inequality. one is not necessarily poor because one had erred in a prior lifetime, nor are less than harmonious outlooks due to a failure in a prior time or in a current time, this is faulty and arrogant reasoning even on a spiritual plane.

    To argue that those not as fortunate should bow down before such outright materialism, or feel that it’s justified, and not hollow, is demeaning. Which might be said to be the article’s subtext, it’s meaning, based as it is, on an insecurity that I find problematic.

    be forewarned, leave your possessions behind before entering these grounds.

  46. nspire December 30th, 2007 3:03 am

    GEOFF — I see that Eastern thought (paradigm/culture) has a balanced but somewhat fatalistic (karma/drama) acceptance of one’s position in society, and errs toward repression of individualism, which engenders a more stable society and mutual respect.

    I see that Western thought (paradigm/culture) has plastered (almost) everything up against the flawed dualism of mind/body = good/bad = male/female (the 2nd item getting short shrift) . While this individualism and reality split propels science forward, make religions fundamentally imbalanced (casting spirit out, how?) it demeans woman and allows destruction of the Earth, which propels society back to the stone age.

    Wouldn’t be nice if we could selectively shop for the best of both, but even so, any synthesis or system (per Gödel) will always be incapable of understanding all truths that can be objectively shown to be so. Many problems are resolved by going to the next higher level (out of the box thinking) of organization, but we know that even that can never be complete, so out we eventually go again and again, ever more (Zeno paradoxically like) boxes.

    Spirit has always been a tough one to “pin down”, being essentially penultimately unmanifest: If the absence of something is nothing, is the absence of nothing something?

  47. geoff29 December 30th, 2007 3:17 pm

    dear nspire,

    so, as this subject is apparently one which we think about. certainly it’s been the source of amusement, disparagement, education, sorrow, enlightenment, calmness, mishap, so on and so forth.

    I do not know what “nothing” is. prior, I guess I was more speculative than otherwise, or wondering.

    So, much of my time following is devoted to thinking about what “is” is. Which is no easy answers at least for me in this portion of whatever “eternity” seems to be, whatever that “is.” I append here - it seems to me. I had a teacher once who said that what was interesting was what went on behind the scenes. I would have to concur.

    I guess you would have to say I’m of the reincarnation crowd, then, eastern or western, because it just wouldn’t seem realistic or workable without being so.

    so, I might meet you in another discussion probably at some point.

  48. nspire December 31st, 2007 4:56 am

    {… unmanifest IS’ness the zero point energy of vacuum nothinglessness }

    It is the hub of the wheel that remains motionless while the wheel of life turns, the moment of the bell’s clapper passing through the empty center between rings, the eye peering into itself, and another sound of the one handed clap.

    How can it BE that we’re but created of ancient star dust, that becomes self-aware (somehow?) and then chooses contemplation of what IS and IS NOT (real?).

    Namaste … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … Mahatma Gandhi … … … … … … … … … …
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