D.K.
How is he not the favorite?
It's excusable for people to not know who he is (in light of the MSM's effort to make him invisible)…
But to be aware of him, and still think that Hillary'Obama'Edwards is a better vote because it gives the Dems a better chance to win the office is:

A) compliant, and maintains the status quo.
and
B) Lacking independent thought.

Feel free to continue the list….

Good point Freedumb. I was wondering why the word Kucinich is taboo on "democrat" site dailykos. Pathetic.

Let's hope Kucinich keeps picking up steam. The people NEED him. Period. End of story.

http://www.kucinich.us

Even though he is right and is in lockstep with the majority sentiments of the people he wishes to serve in the White House, DK has been successully sold and is viewed as a vanity candidate -- not a serious candidate.

I think it's just another remarkable example of the primary voters being swayed by the superficial packaging of the candidates in MSM election coverage.

Really no other way to explain it. There's also the superficial element of DK's physical stature, which reminds people of the disastrous Dukakis. Just another continuation of the nonverbal, cliquish nature of these elections.

I don't think the UFO thing or the anti-assassination (would not assassinate Osama BinLaden) thing is a serious impediment.

But, hey, we went through this already with Howard Dean in 2004. If the MSM wants to portray you as marginal, you will not win the primary. The "scream" incident was pathetic, but also very instructive. Shame on us if we didn't learn from it.

Maybe the only way to have an independent voice in the race is a Perot type or Bloomberg type figure who can self-finance and pay his way into the big game as an Independent.

DK as Dem candidate appears to be doomed due to primary voter susceptibility to superficia.

Dennis is one of a handful of US politicians who are not afraid to hold Bush and Cheney accountable for their crimes. And like the abolitionists before the Civil War, they need money. Progressives have some; it's not all in the hands of the fascists. Let's all cough up some cash for Dennis and see what he can do.

Are we supposed to wait for Congressional whores to stop taking coroprate payoffs before we take our taxes and our freedoms back? Kucinich is the relief valve for the one or two percent who want real change and still think it will come through the system that was bought and paid for by multinationals before they were born. And if they don't change tactics with direct confrontation and sabotage, it will be still shilled for by corporate appointed, media annointed candidates after they die.

If you donate money NOW to DK's campaign it will be DOUBLED due to matching PUblic contributions!!!

:>)

I really don't get it, I come from Kansas/Missouri where almost everyone is Republican. I am trying to get them to vote Ron Paul in the primary but most just don't want to vote at all in the primary because they can't stomach having 4 more years of war (not because of the slaughter of Iraqis, torture, loss of our rights etc., but because of what the war is doing to the economy, talk about self-centered ignorance...) however most of those Republicans will vote either Clinton or Obama in the general election or whomever is the Democratic nominee, Obama seems to be, believe it or not, more popular than Clinton among Republicans in Kansas.

I now work in California and there most people would prefer Kucinich yet they just don't think he's electable, so they will vote either Clinton or Obama in the primary just to avoid another Republican President. As a matter of fact almost every Democrat I know throughout the country prefers Kucinich on the issues as well as his perceived incorruptibility and his courage, he's like Bobby Kennedy , yet they think he can't be elected, so they will vote Clinton or Obama in the primary.

Kucinich could win the primary if this impeachment thing was put on the table that's why the Democrats don't want to impeach not because they love Dick but because they're scared of Dennis.

It's time all of us show those people who's electable and who's not, vote Kucinich if you're a registered Democrat and Paul if you're a registered Republican, this will show them who's boss, WE THE PEOPLE.

FREEDUMBFIGHTER: How is Dennis not the favorite? One reason. The polls. The last year of the election polls ought to be outlawed. Just think what a difference that would make! What we have is a fixed, horse race where the candidates are hand picked and, in my opinion, the polls contribute to this perdition of our democracy.

Kucinich is the one person in my life I have found to BE ELECTABLE. The garbage, 'Oh, but he won't be taken seriously because..., If I thought he could win I'd...., VOTE for Kucinich, donate to Kucinich, listen when he speaks!
Cnn hosting last debate, Kucinich, 6 minutes total, 5 questions total. Then Blitzer, has the audacity to try and cut him off as he is speaking about impeachment, Dennis just kept on, he finally received applause. Does this tell you anything?
Call, email the House, 50 times a day, your Rep. and especially Pelosi, now with H R 799 we have more to keep it ON THE TABLE.
Or don't vote, which is truly assanine, use your vote, if Kucinich is not on the ballot, quoting someone great on this site or Alternet, I wish I remembered the users name, whomever you are I am giving you the credit and Thanks!, "I have my pencil,
I have it sharpened
I have a shrpener, in case
I will write it in"
It was a way to get us to do the right thing , do not settle, unless your apathy has allowed you to give up. That is an easy thing for many to do. Another thing that is simple, "I have my pencil.....
Kucinich '08, as CITIZENS choose who you honestly think should be, not could be President in all the ways we need our President to represent us.

Dennis is the equivalent of Paul Wellstone....I only hope he can pull off a miracle and get the Democratic nomination in the next few months. It also might be a good idea for him to travel only by bus for a while. He is the ONLY Democrat who even has a shot at getting my vote.

Kucinich is not electable because the corporate world controls the Democratic Party, not any nice liberals online at commondreams. It is as simple as that.

Whether or not he ever becomes president, he's fighting hard against a fascist US. Stop trying to calculate his chances of winning and do what you know is right.

"As a tactic, it will unite the Republicans and divide the Democrats" Welch said

This gets to the core of what's wrong U.S. politics. Describing the upholding of the constitution as a "tactic" tells me that all parties in the US legislature believe the bush line that the constitution is just a goddamned quaint piece of paper. No wonder the Democrats are happy to continue the occupation, spying, and torture. Do any of you really believe that the next US president will be any different? I think that the next one will be cosmetically different with a different name, different face but will inherit the same powers, will have the same backers, will pursue the same policies.

I think the main difference will be you the "leftist community". You will fall largely silent. You don't want the Republicans to "get back in" (as if they are ever out). Take for example Iran. When was it decided that Iran was the "enemy"? I hear much about what is to be "done about Iran". Who decided that something "had to be done"? It seems, that was decided behind closed doors without public participation, by the two big parties. Meanwhile my sources tell me that the wages of ninety-five percent of you are stagnant while forty plus million of you without healthcare realize that the "invisible hand" of free market economics isn't quite as useful as a hand up when you are in desperate need.

So "Dennis" is probably the best Democratic candidate, if the US were a democracy where you voted for those who would serve your interests. You know it's not. "Dennis" will lose of course. (You can see this from the moon) All his support will be folded into the status quo. And we've seen this movie before. I wait with baited breath to see whether Dennis supports Hillory or Obama. Then we can look forward to the announcement that the incredibly lucrative contracts to support the Iraqi occupation are far too complicated to bring to term. No fear though, the ninety-five percent of you who's taxes haven't been slashed can earn your healthcare by killing other poor people in Iraq or Iran.

It's not enough to impeach Bush & Cheney. After that, we'd have to start on Congress.

Putting tongue firmly in cheek, I suggest that we give all Congress members 30 days to decide whether they want to stay in office and submit to DAILY drug and alcohol testing for the rest of their terms. It would give those who do 30 days to "clean up their act" and it would give those who don't 30 days to find funding for a lifestyle that can no longer be financed by the government and corporate teats. In either case, it would most certainly clean up Congress.

Then we could start on the judicial branch and the Pentagon.

And then on all the corporations with which our country does the military/industrial shuffle.

Oh, and jlock123: you have no sense of humor.

Kucinich layed down at the '04 DNC and played dead. He's going to do it again at the '08 DNC. The Democrats will run out the clock as they have for the last year and change nothing. The Democrats will vote for nuking Iran (if there's even a vote) and then insist that you vote for Hillary or Obama to continue the good work. That leaves us with the Question of whether the Bush Crime Family intends to step down. Better than even money says, "No". That leaves Martial Law and suspension of elections during "the time of Emergency". Yeah Toto, we ain't been in Kansas for a long, long time.

It has taken us 50 years to get here. National Security Act of 1947.

Peace.

"Anybody but MSM"

I am full of politics; I hunger for Justice!

As with what lead to DK being dubbed unelectable... just start saying he IS, to anyone and everyone. If you don't need reasons to discount him, then you don't need reasons to count him!! :)

The press and media people are fully aware DK is absoluutely correct. There is the problem, they either fear, or are bought, and they refuse to tell the truth and the average citizen, or vast majority, are unaware of the real truths. The vast minority who read and comment here are just that. ___ The vast minority.

Yes DK stepped aside in 04 because he was a MEMBER of the PARTY! He might be the only one left who still believes in the Democratic Party. He has helped keep peace, impeachment, and unviersal health insurace in the debate. What did he keep in the 04 debate?

How many people have YOU guided to this (or similiar) site?

I'm done voting for the lesser of two evils. I want to vote for a decent person. One who is not owned. I just don't give a crap anymore we haven't had a democracy since JFK was murderd. It's not just about who you vote for. The whole thing is rigged, it's fixed like a pro wrestling match. Our news services are owned and paid for infomercials, for and by the ruling elite.
Have a good day!

I have a "Dennis Kucinich for President" sign prominently displayed on my truck. Sadly, the most asked question is, "Who the heck is Kuck-in-Chick?"

The tendency for people to vote according to MSM polls is something that I have long recognized, accept as being true, but in my heart have always failed to understand. People say to me, "Oh, you voted for Nader? Why did you waste your vote?" How can we call ourselves a democracy when the prevailing sentiment is that if you don't vote for the winner you have somehow failed. What is this, an election or a pop quiz? And I always wonder, how long is it going to take for people to realize that every president elected is an absolute incompetent who damages the country more than he serves it. Yes, that includes Bill Clinton my opinion. Indeed, in my heart of hearts I believe it was the repulsion for Bill Clinton's oral sex in the White House that pushed the country in a more conservative direction in favor of the Repubs. But I know, that's ancient history now, right? Hmmm…..

I intend to keep my sign on my truck throughout the next failing presidency, or even the one after that, just to be able to say out of spite, "Don't blame me, I voted for Kuck-in-Chick"

Dennus Kucinich is a courageous leader who is fighting for our Constitution----our endangered Bill of RIGHTS!

Alas, it says a great deal to me that even progressives on this site mutter and hang their heads saying they KNOW he is the candidate who best represents their stands on the issues of our time, own but..... What does it say about US as a people, that we have the closest thing to a champion asking for our support, and we whine that old refrain...."Yes, but he can't win...."

Winning isn't all that this is about, my friends. It's about making your voices heard. VOTE YOUR HOPES AND DREAMS---we are being offered a chance to do that much. How can the Universe get behind us when we aren't even willing to fully commit to our own dreams and aspirations? Talk about putting up obstacles. We are our own worst enemey!

If you don't get behind a man who offers us a chance to unravel the hideous web of violence, deception, greed, and distortions, than you have NO RIGHT to bitch and moan about this godawful state our country and our world. You don't trust the MSM right? So why then are you willing to believe that he is unelectable? If he is so ridiculous. why do you suppose they are so determined to keep his message from wider decemination? I'll tell you why. Because he is dangerous, just like Wellstone. He won't be silenced.
He is shning his LIGHT into the dark corners of this cabal, and their minions in Congress. DO YOU WANT REAL CHANGE OR NOT???????

Let go of your self defeating thoughtforms and start believing again that you DO have power to make change. And stop complaining about the lack of choices....those statements only show how totally you have bought into the propaganda you so despise. WAKE UP!!!

"if you don't vote for the winner you have somehow failed"

EXCELLENT!!
Yes, most people still do not grasp the concept of "concensus by majority" rule 9i.e. Democracy)

But the DO unsderstand Victory Culture...

Kucinich first

and if the Fakeocrats go corporate (only 100% chance of that)

then Nader

Lesser-evilism is the scare tactic used by our corporate masters to ensure that we only select among their candidates

We will not take our country back as long as we continue to play their game. It's gone way beyond the Wal-Mart Witch, AIPAC Edwards, OBomba Obama, etc.

We need a revolution !

RESIST !

Don't give them your soul ! Please stop playing lesser-evilism

Kucinich 2008

Nader 2008 (after the corporate Dems finish marginalizing Dennis)

GO DENNIS! step out on the party and go independent!

ostrogoth; Excellent! Excellent!

starofthesea; Excellent! Excellent!

Left of Left; Absolutely! Very well said.

liberal with an attitude; Never say 'never', but unfortunately, he wants to stay in the DP.

Define the word YOU DUSTINCHICAGO? WHO are you asking? Personally, I know af at least 110. If that would multiply by the same ratio, ___ we'd soon be the majority.

I am voting Kucinich in the primary, they way I figure it, if he wins, great, I just gave a big middle finger to the military industrial arms oil complex that wants more war with defenseless third world countries and the rich chickenhawk neo-cons who want to suck our national wealth dry and send it to Zurich, Dubai and Shanghai and destroy the middle class not only in America but around the world.

If he loses than so what, Clinton or Obama will have the nomination and they're both exactly the same so who cares!

Logically there is no reason not to vote Kucinich in the primary, by voting Kucinich you've got everything to gain and nothing to lose!!

How about this for a bumper sticker:

Kucinich--Right the First Time!

If you care anything about rectitude and have any regard left for the US constitution please call your representative in Congress regardless whether he or she is a democrat or republican and berate them for not impeaching Bush and Cheney. The damage done by Bush and Cheney is incalculable. Tell them that one of the major reasons Congress stands at 11% in the polls is that it is not doing its constitutional duty to impeach when the chief executives have so clearly stepped over the line, not once but many, many times. Call Speaker Pelosi's office too--sorry I don't have the number, but you can get there through the congressional switchboard.

--Rep. Peter Welch, a Democrat from Vermont, said taking up impeachment would be counterproductive. "As a tactic, it will unite the Republicans and divide the Democrats," Welch said. "We saw that last week when Representative Kucinich brought his motion up on impeachment and all of the Republicans voted for it. They'd rather debate impeachment than the war, the economy, or children's health care."--

Ah, contrare, my friend, "They" would rather discuss the war, the economy, and or children's health care, than impeachment, because the controversy over the other issues would end once and for all. And why, pray tell, would impeachment divide the Democrats? The American people are sick of this Cheney and Bush, and elected the Democrats to office to clean up the mess!
We are also sick of the second-guessing which is really the line from the Bush Administration game plan. If everyone who wants to bring an end to this criminality in the White House is strategically wrong because they are so naive, then why, just today, has this administration announced the deal to occupy Iraq, just like we said they were planning to do? And further back, where are the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? When Bush and Gore ran for president, why did we the people vote for Gore, if we were so naive, and so wrong about what a Bush presidency would look like? It looks to me like some of the Democratic naysayers should just shut up! . . . and listen to the people and learn for a change.

the thought police is correct in displaying a fasad that we don't have the human capacity as a country to vote for one who is aligned with everything we want which is what reflects on how we pick someone to represent us as a country and on the whole we are as benevolent as the next guy for reasons why Dennis is our man! I voted for him in the primary and i will do it again and cnn and fox cannot twist my right to my own thinking and I suggest everyone not to let the brainwashers work you but just stand beside the right person. Hillary hasn't got a chance to Dennis. He's right and he will be our next president!

Katiedid, I have another bumper sticker in mind:

VOTING FOR THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS ENDS WITH ME! I VOTE KUCINICH!

You know that would work if he is not the Dem Candidate, and we sign him in as an independent.

How about this for a bumper sticker?

~~BUSH SUX~~

Before we dismiss Dennis Kucinich as unelectable, we should think about this. Roughly 45% of Americans polled think that Bush should be held accountable through impeachment. 50% or so polled think that we should get our troops out of Iraq. Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate who goes with the numbers. I believe the numbers numbers are there. The people don't know this because MSM hammer us with Hillary/Obama/Edwards. That is why they lead in the polls.

When I talk D.K. to others, some laugh. Some just blow me off. I just tell them that if holding Bush accountable and getting our troops out of Iraq is important to them. Then their man is Dennis Kucinich. He is the only one to support both.

OREZ_ENO -- Good message. Keep that bumper-sticker and display it proudly. Hopefully more people will recognize the urgent message of "Kuck-in-Chick".

starofthesea -- It's not the audience of this forum, or others like it, that need awakening. It's the other 99% of America. I think you'll agree.

birdflewunder -- I couldn't agree with you more (regarding your last paragraph).

KEM PATRICK; Coyotita; katiedid; and other bumper-sticker enthusiasts -- I saw the following bumper-sticker on a small truck heading into Washington on I-66 the other day:

"Give me liberty, or give me death!" -- Patrick Henry, 1775
"Don't tase me, bro!" -- Andrew Meyers, 2007

All -- Be sure to watch the next "Defending the Constitution Town Hall Meeting with Congressman Dennis Kucinich", Manchester, NH, Nov. 28th. Link to www.kucinichtv.com at 8PM. It'll offer a respite from the soft questions and rhetoric that's sure to be coming from the CNN/YouTube debate in St. Petersburg at the same time.

DONATE to Kucinich NOW, and the money will be doubled! Put your faith in Kucinich. Give your heart to Kucinich. Send money to Kucinich. Go for what's GOOD. Let's work together to save America. http://www.dennis4president.com/

Historically, at least, the party that impeaches the President, even seriously considers it, has been ultimately strengthened (1868, 1952, 1974, e.g.) I think the lack of impeachment in Congress HURTS the Dems, whether they know it or not.

I would vote for Kucinich if he ran as an independent and I'm starting to think that I might not vote period. The elections are fixed and I'm just sick of the american's not caring or giving a dam--driving down the street in their huge SUV's with their little tiny "support the troops or god bless america". I always thought it should say "God Help Americans".

That guy in the photo looks like he's ready to stomp the venom out of the capitalist beast.

To say that Kucinich is not electable is to sacrifice one's self to the beast. To support a hierarchy out of fear of it.

Up in Minnesota, I'm wearing my Kucinich hooded sweatshirt everyday. Everyday. I also started networking with friends/family by sending quality articles not found in the msm through email, urging them to forward said articles to more people. I have about 25 people on my list and haven't recieved one negative response(although I'm sure there are plenty of people that don't read them and/or silently wish I'd stop sending). Nevertheless, I think it's a good start in spreading knowledge that a lot of people are interested in but are too unmotivated and/or too busy to find. Most of these people have good hearts(like most humans on earth) and would love somebody like kucinich in office, they just need a nudge or two to get them pissed off enough to get involved in the process of change. And the process of change begins with becoming informed (TRULY informed). In addition, I've received some informative articles in return from other people on the list, which has been a great plus. keep networking.

Kucinich is very electable if you have the heart to go with your heart. Remember this is a man who refused to sell off a public utility in Cleveland, Ohio to private investors. The reason why the media portrays him as unelectable is because private interest of all sorts are afraid he might bring transparency, ethics, accountability and a fairer distribution of our nations wealth to her citizens. It is a known fact that what you say to yourself is what you believe. So if you say that Mr.kucinich should be our next president, then act on it. I don't no about all of you but I'm voting for Kucinich without worrying about who might win or lose. If he loses we still could vote in a larger majority of democratic legislators to counter-act the effects of another Neo-con. The protection of our votes is the bigger issue. Unless congress protects everyone's votes and everyone's right to vote then it wont matter if Dennis Kucinich wins. Who will protect our right to prove it.

Peace and compassion to all

Everyone volunteer time to the Kucinich campaign. Convince as many of your neighbors as possible to vote Kucinich in the primaries. Make it a grass roots project. Leave the mainstream media out of it. Point your neighbors to various wikipedia articles such as the Fuel efficiency in transportation article. Convince them that we're only fighting these wars because we're entrenched in the wrong forms of energy, we're addicted to petro-fired luxury and convenience, and that by increasing our self-sufficiency, we can take the big decisions out of the hands of these petro-criminals, and start living responsibly.

Oh please, quit infecting your and everyone elses mind with 'he's unelectable'. Quit trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy. Kill your TV set / ignore the mainstream media. Just get out there and support Kucinich with all your might. Follow your heart / faith and go for it.

I want to crawl under the table of humanity looking at the country (mine) that wants any of these monkeys except Kucinich for president. Will I feel sorry for them now or when the shit comes down for all this denial, lying, greed and violence? How can you have compassion for people who believe anything the TELEVISION says, no matter how foolish, superficial, useless and proven-flat-false?

Press on oh noble candidate! Your party (and probably this country) is not worthy of your clear vision abd determination. I sincerely hope you at least get to give a speech at the convention in Denver and I don't care how obscurely they schedule it, will be watching C-Span (did y'all know you can watch C-span on the web?) and cheering every statement you make.

katiedid: YES on the bumper sticker!!! And all the best to the best: Dennis Kucinich.

Every day I get closer to voting for DK. This bouncing around and pandering by the "leading" candidates makes me sick. Dennis is clear and consistent in his message. Even if we don't convict Bush/Cheney, we owe it to the world to go through the impeachment process. The lies and deception and then the incompetence are so great and unanswered that it has a negative effect on the world opinion of the U.S.