Stunned by Lack of Outrage, Not Outrageous Acts
I continue to be stunned.
Not by Bush any longer. There was a time when I was stunned by nearly everything he did. Or said. Who wouldn't be stunned by a president who could say, "They misunderestimated me," and sincerely believe he's on top of things?
Nor by Cheney. His pure evil no longer surprises me, although there was a time when he routinely stunned me. Torture? Torture??
Not by Congress, either. There was a time when I was stunned by that crowd's sheeplike mentality. I'd hear them decry the war, decry torture, decry Bush's growing deficit, then I'd drop my jaw as they voted time and again to give the president carte blanche.
No longer. I fully expect Congress to disappoint, to fail to do its job in balancing the White House power grab.
I'm no longer stunned by the politicized courts nor by the media, which is unwilling to offend and uses vague, watered-down language instead of strong condemnations of this, the worst presidency in history.
So who continues to stun me?
I will tell you. I am stunned by all that is left of America: Americans.
I am stunned by the public's lack of outrage over all this presidency has done to ravage our nation. Where is the outrage over this war-without-end? Over waterboarding? Over our dead and maimed soldiers?
I am stunned that Americans aren't writing angry letters to the editor about the Iran rhetoric, this carbon copy of lies that led up to Bush's invasion of Iraq.
I am stunned that Americans didn't take to the streets with placards condemning Bush for vetoing a bill that would have ensured health care for children.
I am stunned that Americans aren't rioting over federal money that has helped only the rich in New Orleans rebuild while the poor still live homeless.
I am stunned that Americans aren't storming the White House as Bush accuses the Democrats of irresponsible spending on domestic programs even as he destroys the economy with his war and his deficit.
I am stunned that Americans haven't marched on Washington over the rising unemployment rate, over corporate greed that is causing millions to lose their homes, over our rotting infrastructure.
People on the margins are already making hard choices. I know a young woman who wanted to drive to Vermont to be with her family for Thanksgiving but couldn't afford to put that much gas in her car.
The middle class should take note. People are wandering the mall charging Christmas presents, but that bill comes due in January when the price of oil will be more than $100 a barrel and gasoline will cost $4 a gallon at the pump. Where is the outrage?
I am stunned by people in Monroe who want to take away a veteran's rights to free speech when he paints angry signs about Bush on his van.
I am stunned by those same people who want to shut me up, shout me down, spew viciousness into my telephone because I exercise my own right to speak. They are so confused, these people who believe in free speech until someone says something they disagree with.
I am stunned by those who say, "He's our president, so he deserves our respect." No he doesn't. He deserves our fury for bringing shame to the presidency and embarrassment to Americans around the world.
Sometimes, those of us who continue to be outraged by this administration sound like a broken record, even to our own ears.
We keep singing the same tune while our critics say enough is enough.
But that the same old tune has to be sung as long as Bush continues to wage the same old war against America's poor and shrinking middle class.
We have to keep singing. I have to keep singing.
But what I'd like to know is, where is the chorus?
There are 421 days 'til Jan. 20, 2009.
Copyright 2007 The Times Herald-Record
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Show AllFranklin, wendywbusk@yahoo.com
Lambsie Divy; I was on the way to work this morning and didn't finish my reply to you. I have met many people over the years who sort of dropped out, as they used to say, and most of them had persuasive reasons for doing so. The difficulty in doing so is $$$ problems, sooner or later. Medical and dental bills, and other essentials just to exist. They all take money, or at least a bartering system where like-minded folks help each other exchanging skills and/or products within the community. To my knowledge, very few of these communal systems lasted, and most eventually ended in 'every man for himself'. I'd love to know if there are any still around for my own curiosity and to research for something I am working on.
Whatever you do Wendy, I wish the best for you.
Franklin
Lambsie Divy; Concentrate on your desire and you just might wind up in that area in British Columbia, Wendy. There is power in those few words..."discovering what one does when one doesn't"...my dear, you are on the 'Path' which we must all travel. My best to you. Keep in touch.
Peaceman, if you're still lurking out there somewhere, thank you. Interesting, too, that you should bring up not working as a protest or a strike. I stopped working not for anything so grand but because I could no longer see the point. I really like just barely getting by. I wish I were up in that British Columbia cabin with the two hope seekers, discovering what one does when one doesn't. Best back atcha, friend.
Wendy
I am stunned that anyone actually believed that America was the land of the free and the home of the brave! LOLLLL
I am stunned that anyone STILL expects Americans to act bravely or freely! LOL :(
Sebouhian,
I loved your comments. It is encouraging to read the OUTRAGE. Many of us here in Israel and Palestine are outraged at the relationship between the US and Israel. We need people to oust the Neo-con, Zoinist movement in your country as much as we need to do the same here. Shalom.
I will have to agree americans are dumb. People should be outraged that they are only seen as consumers for the world and not buy at Christmas.
The corporations are not making it better for the world.
Jim Glover; Maybe I'm getting a little wacky. I've been told by relatives and friends about being obsessed with politics. "I need to get a hobby or something else".
Most people need to work, Jim, but look back on all the labor strikes in the thirties ,forties, and fifties that gave working-class people a chance to move ahead in life instead of an indentured servant existence. Those folks staked all they had but stuck together (for the most part) and achieved things which would never be given to them by the bosses of industry.
The reason I bring up Valley Forge is illustrative of a 'David' defeating 'Golith' or a smaller force overcoming a larger force, against the odds, as they say. What was done to the American Indians was a crime against humanity as well as buying Africans and bringing them to the Americas, working them for room and board. That is capitalism at its worse. ALWAYS THE BOTTOM DOLLAR!
I have been sick to my stomach since we invaded Afghanistan and then Iraq and unleashed bloodthirsty thrill-seekers on the folks over there. The sado-masochistic torture received a few yawns in Congress a few years ago, and with the exception of a very small minority of us, most of our fellow citizens cared less. Sure, we have demonstrations, rallies, sit-ins and lectures and debates about all of this, but it still continues, only less publizied Out of sight, out of mind. And that is only the 'legalized murder' aspect of the big picture.
The dismantling of the infrastructure of the United States, the privatization of more and more things that served the citizens well for so long and was admired by people around the world are being given to the highest bidder who then charge us additional fees for everything. You and I are in the same age group Jim. Everytime and every transaction you make there is a fee for this, a fee for that, surcharges for this, surcharges for that. You can't dial 411 and get a phone number anymore without paying for the information. Banks are the same way too. Other industries as well.
I'm like a wilted piece of celery, Jimbo. I haven't anymore ideas. Except, maybe Getting rid of the computer and reading books more often and watch television. Why should I ruin my health for people who don't care about anybody but themselves.
Anyway, take care of yourself and get on a vegetarian diet, Jimmy. We want to be healthy in our 'golden years'. Peace and Harmony.
Peaceman,
I did not mean to ridicule you with the line "The Jerk who invented work" and was not quoting you at all.
It was a line I heard from Pete and I always liked it as a kind of a rebellion of the worship of work.
You offered the idea of "How about if nobody worked until things changed for the better".
I just don't believe it would change things for the better since most Folks have to work to survive.
I agree with you about the importance of struggle in our lives to make a better world.
Valley Forge was a lot of Work yet I don't think War is the answer today, that was a time that is gone and lots of American Indians were wiped out and it led to more conquest of the West and our own curse of Empire... We don't have that option today nor would it be humane to repeat.
But keep thinking of ideas, You will come up with better ones as I am sure you have done good things in your life. I don't want to discourage you and I am sorry if I offended you.
I get a little too much sometimes for sure.
Pete was my big inspiration to get involved in the first place and I am 65 now and will get Social Security and medicare.
I am lucky and wish you all the best.
jimglover@verizon.net
Here is a cool one from Pete if you haven't seen it yet and please pass it on. I always find hope in the work of Pete Seeger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXfJKh-NnY
"My thoughts: We must move to a new plane of existence defined by necessity a new enligtenment."
I'm with you, bother/sister. I think it's time for me to search for that plane in other venues.
I'll start with my own back yard...
Last year my partner and I left the United States and moved to a remote cabin in northern British Columbia where we provide our own micro-hydro power, grow our own food, and live quite well without television and cell phones. But through a satellite internet connection we continued to keep up on what was happening in the United States and the World. What we read and saw was very discouraging. So early in September of this year, my partner and I set out on a 15,000-mile road trip across Canada and the northern tier of the United States, looking for signs of hope. We chronicled our journey on a blog called "Looking for Hope" on www.riverofmist.com. After two and a half months, we are back in our northern British Columbia cabin, reflecting upon what we have seen. My partner Bob sees hope in the efforts of small groups and individuals – the kind of thing Paul Hawken writes about in his book "Blessed Unrest." My viewpoint more closely resembles that of Beth Quinn. This is what I wrote on our blog yesterday, before I stumbled upon her article on this website.
"As we were driving the last leg of our "Looking for Hope" road trip, Bob turned to me and said, "You haven't found much to hope for on this journey, have you?" What could I say? I desperately wanted to find hope for the future. And there have been moments when I said to myself, "This is a reason for hope." There have been unique places and individuals that inspired me, and I wrote about them. But if I am to be honest with myself, I have seen more to be discouraged about than encouraged. I do not belittle the efforts that I have seen to change the direction our country and the world is headed. These are the candles in the night. They shine oh so brightly. But do we have time for those candles to ignite the wildfire needed for change?
Too often I see passive acceptance of what I consider unacceptable. A failure to connect the dots, to see the forest for the trees. Well-meaning people who do not think. It is not only the leaders who have failed us – we, the people have failed – and we have been given the government and conditions that we deserve. As long as we continue to believe that our security is worth any price (loss of constitutional rights, moral high ground, world respect, and the lives of millions), that future technology will solve our energy needs and climate change, that being anti-war is aiding our enemies and that protest and dissent is unpatriotic. As long as we believe that we must continue our excessive consumption in order to keep America's economy strong, that it is our place in the world to spread freedom and democracy (actually capitalism) and Christianity, and the public gives more importance to entertainment than to hard news and education. As long as Americans believe that maintaining the American life-style is more important than saving the world from war and environmental degradation. As long as those beliefs are held, and the American culture continues to be self-absorbed and self-important, I have no hope that there is enough courage or outrage to change the direction of the stampede that is now headed over the cliff's edge. My only hope is that after the Empire falls (whether it be economic, anarchy, world war, pandemic, or climate change disasters), that there will be enough candles left in the night to pick up the pieces and rebuild a saner world. I'm afraid this one is too far gone.
Does that mean I have given up? Raised the white flag of surrender? Say, "Oh well, there is nothing I can do about it?" Absolutely not! I will continue to be a grouchy old woman protesting loudly, a thorn in the side of apathy and blind denial. And I will continue to look for all those candles in the night, support them, and add my own. The future of our planet is worth fighting for, and I will do so to the end of my days.
Jim Glover; Throughout history, at least in th US, everything worthwhile, things we take for granted, were gained only because of the struggle by those who came before us.The ruling class parts with nothing without a fight. Just think for a moment Jim, the soldiers in the American Revolutionary War at Valley Forge, ill-supplied and clothed, freezing their butts off against the well-armed and supplied British and Hessian armies. What if they said, "this is too much to endure, we're going back home."
Slavery, women's rights, the right to have union representation, voting rights, civil rights, etc.
None of these came without an inconvience of sorts, from cold-blooded murder, to beatings, incarceration, and employment retaliation, and I think you know what I'm talking about.
It is not for me (nor would anyone listen) to tell folks what to do. If the collective struggle of We The People worked, the public would respond without any one voice calling the shots.
"But you got one thing in your favor...who was the jerk who invented work anyway?"
Laugh at me and ridicule my method. I can deal with that, but don't quote me on things I haven't said. That is an irresponsible statement.
I like Pete Seeger and if you and he or anybody else has a better plan...I'm willing to listen.
I have come to the conclusion that democracies are short lived. Athens, the historical prototype, only lasted about a century and a half at best.
It seems that success contains the seeds for its own failure. It is success that makes us lackadaisical, lazy, lethargic in protecting what we accomplished.
Peaceman,
The only folks who can afford to not work until things change for the better are not the masses... they are the very wealthy and they are probably not into revolution anyway.
But try it... and I suppose it will be up to you to tell those who can afford this plan when things are changed enough... Can you see yourself telling folks "no things aren't changed enough yet...Don't work, ya gotta hang in there!
But you got one thing in your favor ..."who was the jerk who invented work anyway?"
I guess everything must be tried... good Luck!
How about a coordinated work stoppage and refusal to work until things are changed for the better? With the exception of certain professions ( medical, fire dept., police,etc.) we stay home or go out and socialize with like-minded folks and for the ones still learning what has been happening, explaining to them the reason for this direct action and how they are getting screwed by the ruling class and the corporatists. Slowly they will join the movement once they understand. As for the military, you'll still have the 'goon squad' who follow orders, illegal or not, but many will leave the ranks and join with us. More and more are deserting as they become aware.
Some South American countries are proving that mass action works. But they also know the tyrants never sleep and whoever coined the phrase "ETERNAL VIGILANCE" knew very well what it takes.
The struggle will be difficult but the spirit of communalism (one for all and all for one) will unravel and manifest into the true brotherhood (and sisterhood) of man.
I've been cursed at and called names, but don't resort to the same tactic. Yes, you can catch more flys with honey than vinegar. I'm hopeful and skeptical at the same time, but am only one individual trying to do my share.
I don't find any lack of outrage at Common Dreams.
Now those here who think a violent revolution will give us back our democracy... Go for it!
Talk is cheap while Cops dressed in black and plain clothes will gladly follow you down if you have the guts.
You want a logo? offer one! "ForUs" is mine but you can have it free.
10 million in the streets so they can't ignore us?
OK lets suppose they write big stories on it.... Then what? Does that change anything?
If the military is with us then it would... but that ain't gonna happen soon.
Most likely it will just fill up the prisons and internment camps of Homeland Security.
Don't buy anything that will stop them, right?
Tell your family that they can't buy anything and see how your life changes while the big corporation CEO's have enough in the bank to wait you out and watch you get more and more outraged because none of these ideas will change anything the way you want and least of all the War economic system... that system is designed to deal with all of this.
Massive sit down strike? Who will have to get up first, us or the CEO's?
The coming depression will cut down on what people buy without us coming up with things that won't work and violence is the thing that the War Machine will always profit from while us folks get crushed.
Some want to organize, organize but ya don't even leave your email.
Talk is cheap and Nobody is gonna follow outrage anyway.
We are in a global revolution ...look around, it is happening.
Will it destroy us or make us stronger... it is up to us to channel outrage and shock to help and be kind to each other.
If you are hopeless, you need to drop out and take a long break.
Pete Seeger told me back in the early 80's you got to find a crack in the wall and stick the crowbar in and work until you need to take a break and let someone else work it while you rest.
This revolution is gonna take time and a lot of loving care for it to get us to a better world...
No guarantee even with all our efforts but doing it and the journey is were all the fun and satisfaction lies.
Too outraged? Take a break and come back refreshed with some random acts of kindness.
Impatience will get you nowhere that you want to be.
ForUs, Jim
ONE MESSENGER OF MANY: Fabulous post! (Seems to have some synchronicity with the 12 sacred pathways/protocols/powers taken from Heaven's Mandala.)
Dear Helix, The people that have been truly "trashing the place" have been our economic and political elites, stripping down and selling off our industrial economy for the parts, trashing our Constitution and culture at every point that they interfered with the process, and to hell with the hindmost. Our youngsters, the most vulnerable, have been left with the resulting dog-eat-dog cop-surveilled wasteland. Who can blame them if many have come to feel that it deserves no more respect than it has given them. The pity is that most don't have enough proper education to realize how much has been lost in so short a time, how they have been robbed, and therefore cannot develop the righteous and focused anger appropriate to such a great betrayal.
Lambsie Divy; Little lambs eat ivy too. Exquisitly stated! When I read your post, I felt as if I was talking to myself. We progressive/liberal folks are a small minority in this nation of 300,000,000 or so people, and reinforce each other's sentiments in our comments or chat room (?) exchanges on Common Dreams and other sites. Most of our fellow citizens either don't care or have a multitude of excuses for not actively participating in the 'movement to save our country' from the ever growing police-state and fascist imperialism.
If gasoline went to ten bucks a gallon, they would timidly grumble about how much it costs to fill up their gas guzzling suvs or pickup trucks, but nevertheless, stilll fail to connect the dots over the price-goughing by the monopolistic oil companies.
Your first sentence is a reflection of myself and many others, but we are a tiny fraction of the population. Thinking back on books or people whom have influenced my way of thinking over many decades, I remember the German, Oswald Spengler, and his account of civilizations. Sort of a 'pendulum theory'.
I hope my interpretation is close enough, not to mistate him, but it goes something like this: A nation rises to its highest level in science, technology, literature, the 'arts' and morality, and after awhile, starts the decline as a high culture or civilization. Meanwhile, another civilization/culture is rising to its apex as the former, and eventually reaches its peak and after awhile, begins the process of decline, and somewhere else in the world, another country is ascending upward to its highest level of achievement.
Our country, which we are concerned about, is on the decline, spiralling downward to a painful abyss of degenerate behavior.
Take care of yourself and the ones close to you, my friend. When the majority are easily herded by a small minority, it may just be too late. The best to you and yours.
PEACEMAN
Many interesting posts but I think Badminton sums it up succinctly: Americans are quite passive because they have been trained to be consumers—not citizens or thinkers. When they do turn to politics and economics, they are easily misled by right-wing fantasies and mass media propaganda.
The people reading and commenting at Common Dreams are exceptions and hardly represent Americans in general (and some posters, of course, are not even Americans).
There are tens of millions of Americans mildly disgusted by Bush but they are not going to raise a fuss about him. They would no sooner take to the streets to shut things down than attempt to swim to Japan for a vacation.
They will react when there is a disruption to their consumption. If gasoline hits $5 a gallon or there is a real economic meltdown, perhaps we will see some serious grousing and even action.
I found the post by Barn Burner about his/her three American children quite illuminating:
"They never discuss Iraq and know only what is on the MSM about Iran. No, they talk about wine, new cars, boats and TVs. They have never heard of Seymour Hearsh and, in general don't read. They were not raised in a home that encouraged conservative ideas or anti-intellectualism so I am stunned."
I have noticed this phenomenon with even reasonably educated Americans in their 20s and 30s. If I try to bring up Iraq or an impending war on Iran they react with polite boredom at best. If I ask them their favorite Merlot or what they think of IPods or the design of the new Honda Element then they are easy to engage in conversation.
Recently, I found out that a sister of mine—whom I rarely speak with—is on the terrorist watch list. She is apolitical and I'm not sure if she has read a book in decades. She goes to work, gossips, watches TV, and tends to her roses.
Every time she goes on a flight they pull her aside, search her rigorously, and then test her for bomb-making residues. This upsets her but when I tried to make larger political connections with the erosion of Civil Liberties and the Orwellian War on Terror, she is at a loss. She can only see that it is personally annoying—not that it is part of a political sea change that is ominous. She will not be taking to the streets anytime soon.
Oh, one more thing. I came of age during the Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon years. I watched how public pressure, even from people way out of the mainstream, eventually brought the collapse of both administrations. It seemed part of the American DNA to be heard after the mob reached critical mass for a sufficient period of time. Critical mass then was about a quarter of what it is now. The difference, maybe, is that LBJ and Nixon cared whether people liked them and felt shame when they were so publicly despised. Why doesn't that work now?
bikesnbach opined "There is no outrage, there is only fear."
I cannot agree with this sentiment. I see a lot of outrage. Even my own mother, a dyed-in-the-wool Republican, is so angry that she's sitting out the next election. Se will never vote for a Democrat, but she will no longer give her support to the current batch of Republicans. With Bush's approval rating setting new record lows for an American president, and with Cheney's and Congress's ratings even lower, I don't think you can say that there's no outrage.
What there isn't is an effective structure through which the outraged majority can express its political will. The collection of candidates now vying for office is even more abysmal than usual, causing that collective outrage to morph into gloomy pessimism.
We need to recognize that we are no longer a country of rugged individualists. The frontier closed many generations ago now, and most people work for corporations or small private businesses. Women now work also, meaning that our children are now raised in an institutionalized setting. This is not intended as a criticism. It's simply reality.
What this means is that most people are more comfortable in a structured setting where they are following an established plan than they are in a leadership role. Once again, no criticism is intended here. We must simply recognize that this is the case and adjust our political strategies accordingly. What is needed -- to reiterate the point -- is a structure that people feel comfortable with, that represents their interests, and that they feel has a chance of success.
Given the sad state of our political environment at the moment, it would be tempting to frame this organization's goals negatively -- that is, it is against the current administration, torture, war, domestic spying, etc. I think this would be a mistake. The mission statements of Corporations, for example, are almost always framed positively, and people working in a positive environment produce results. And so even if this new political entity has arisen due to a largely negative environment, people will not be attracted to it if it emphasizes negatives.
The bottom line is that changing the political environment takes collective effort. People here are asking "what can I do?" The answer is clear. Organize. Work for the candidates of your choice, or, if you think both major parties are beyond redemption, start or join a grassroots organization. Idealists are not known for getting their hands dirty, but where the rubber meets the road is where the shoeleather hits the pavement, where the flyers hit the doorsteps, and where philosophies are turned into planks in political platforms.
If "raising consciousness" is your gig, go into teaching. Teaching is arguably the most important occupation there is given the formative role it plays on the character of the next generation. Our society has undergone huge changes since women joined the work force, and our children are suffering as a consequence. This is, once again, not a criticism. It is a simple statement of where we are. Schools must now take on the extended role of parenting as well as educating, and we need legions of fresh, committed people to do that. With charter schools now gaining increased acceptance, you can even start a school whose vision is aligned with yours rather than the local county council's.
It's time to take action. Effective, organized action. Pull together. Be realistic. And never ever give up.
For our efforts on the "Declaration of Freedom from the Mainstream Media" to work, we will all have to sacrifice. I don't say that lightly because I know that every now and then there are entertaining TV programs that come along. When I gave up commercial TV, I had to give up watching the 2 shows that I actually watched occasionally. I can come close to guaranteeing that without the constant bombardment of TV advertisements, you'll buy less stuff that you don't really need.
Maybe you'll spend more time reading or hanging out with friends and family, or doing more stuff in the community, or at your church, temple, synagogue, or wherever you seek real truth.
The main thing is to declare our intentions LOUDLY. We won't just quietly turn off our TV sets and radios and fold our newspapers. We will symbolically throw them out the windows and off a cliff if you live near one. This is the real deal baby! We need to send the message that we are not even trying to hear this MSM nonsense ANYMORE! The end, finale, kaput, adios, ciao and any other language you can understand. Send the message that it will take a whole new paradigm to get our eyeballs back. We need to send notice especially before we get any heavier into the POTUS beauty pageant competition of 2008
Oh, please. I've marched, I've demonstrated, I've written letters -- which were published but changed nothing -- I've written my congresspeople, I've worked elections, I've given up. I've gotten old during the last seven years, and I feel sick almost all the time from the toxic despair resulting from the last presidential election. Watching this country go bad so fast is like discovering your parents are actually mass murderers. I'm aghast, disoriented, shocked, horrified, deeply ashamed, terrified, and VERY depressed. I can no longer hold down a job, my marriage is pointless, my cat throws up all the time... well, feeling this bad dampens outrage over time. And you know what? I'm a mainstream progressive. I hate to think what truly dedicated liberals are feeling. So Ms. Beth Quinn, go be outraged somewhere else. You're beating up the choir.
My goodness! Seems some naughty boys stuck a stick in the hornets nest....good!
Since TPTB have blocked any previously effective means of Americans changing this trend, let us use the symbols of these amoral overlords against them. What entity now has more rights in the courts and the airwaves than us as citizens? The corporations.
American Citizens INC.
I am encouraged by the amount of discussion this article has generated. I think we are on to something here. But don't pull the covers over your head and start shivering just yet. Direct your efforts at what I am 99.99% sure WILL work.
1) Start a campaign among your discontented friends to stop watching ANY commercial TV. Concentrate your viewing on your city or county's municipal channel, if you have one. This is the channel that broadcasts city council or county commission meetings. You might even have a station that broadcasts state legislative meetings. For one thing, you'll become better informed about local issues and more importantly you'll be taking eyeballs away from advertisements. That's the MSM's lifeblood!!!! Without those eyeballs watching they LOSE MONEY. That's the only power you really have. Use it!!! I virtually eliminated watching any commercial TV about 6 months ago. It has made such a difference in my life that only those who have walked this path will understand. I feel much less pressure to consume, consume, consume than I think I ever have in my life. Also, some of us are blessed enough to have Free Speech TV programming. Watch it if you have it. There are some great documentaries there. And best of all, these are commercial free. My jury is still out on PBS programming. After all they have their own form of corporate sponsorship. What do you think?
3) Next move away from commercial raio as much as possible. Since many of you probably have already purchased CD's and mp3 files for your IPODs, listen to those in the car or on the train, bus or as you walk or jog. Also check out CD's from the public library if you need to and get your music fix that way. Borrow from friends. This is a community effort.
4) Next go online and get your news only from sites like this. This is a fantastic site and there are other sources that you might not like as much as this one, but you get news that you won't get from the MSM. For example, I have only seen the story here, at huffingtonpost.com and maybe at democracynow.org that warrantless wiretaps actually began in April 2001, well before 9/11. Research it if you were not aware of that. Also read European and Asian papers online. Many times they have stories that impact US citizens that you will not find in our so called "standard bearer" newspapers ( and you know the ones I'm talking about). You can always go to democracynow.org or listen to it on the Pacifica or other community radio station that you can access and get the headlines at the beginning of the show and that will at least get you caught up for the moment.
5) Next, I think we need to decree ourselves media activists!!! There are those that have that formal title, but now is the time for ALL of us here to become media activists. Maybe we should form local organizations that may have different names but all operate under one mission, that is to break the MSM's collective hold over us. Remember you can trace just about every difficultly we face right now back to the MSM. They have lulled us into believing that the only thing that matters is celebrity and that real issues are not important. I don't know about you, but it seems to me that the MSM would have you believe that we are not even in the middle of a war right now. Does the MSM even bother to report on protests anymore? Oh but I bet many Americans can give you the latest scoop on "the Great Race" or "Grey's Anatomy". The MSM is the most cruel of masters and we have got to break free. Remember it's tied to elections and candidate coverage. I know it's hard but it has to be done. If something is offending you and/or opressing you, it has to be cut off, plucked out, burned or otherwise gotten rid of.
6)Next we need to draft something like a declaration of independence from the MSM. I know it's crude, but something like this:
Today (enter date), we the people united for a fair and more representative media, declare our intention to ______________. We will no longer watch, listen to, read sources that do not reflect a diversity of voices and positions, and that serves as a stenography service for the those in power and the status quo, etc, etc. We are silencing our TVs, radios of (insert names of programs) We are closing the pages of (insert names of chosen newspapers and magazines).
7) Send the declaration to the heads of all 6 of the major media conglomerates, to congress and the heads of all the major corporations. Remember it's the corporations who advertise in the MSM. Let them know that there messages will go UNHEARD!!! Also send copies to every individual running for public office. It is time for the new Renaissance, a new period of enlightment. Let's have a wiki effort at drafting the declaration and then we can have a virtual convention and decide what should be in the document. Who has the ability to set up our layman's media activist convention, so that we can vote? After that we can send it out via the web or print it out and hand it to people we meet. I'm willing to make copies and hand to my like minded friends.
I know that this is raw, but remember it's the grass roots efforts that make the difference. You CANNOT rely on ANY politician to do what YOU know needs to be done. These efforts are much more meaningful from WE THE PEOPLE.
Now who thinks this is a worthwhile effort?
Kudos to all.
Yes, it IS a choir, of sorts, but at the least it has stopped singing and is now......analyzing.
Jimsenter and others, so many state precisely what I feel and have felt for years:
WHAT, precisely, can I personally do about the criminal events that have taken control not only of this magnificent society still being birthed in truly painful ways, but ALL societies around the globe?
You don´t REALLY think that there is only one chimp for hire in this world....do you?
Can you not recognize that what has been taking place for decades in the land of my birth is also continuing to take place in every, yes I did say, every society on the planet as we speak?
There ARE steps and measures that can be taken, none of which include participation in a fake electoral process that honestly does nothing other than cement the walls you sense going up all around us.
I don´t have all the answers, but I DO know that the objective requires sacrifice to the fullest (what good things don´t?) as well as an abiding commitment to the principle that you get what you give. I have mentioned these things before in various commentaries, which is how I choose to communicate with you:
1. If you think I am kidding about those 200,000 professionals you are very mistaken. This group, probably more than most realize is experienced in ways that most of us never will be, God willing. I can only hope and pray that you, the world´s finest, will understand that you need to coordinate yourselves locally, in whatever formations exist locally. That will define both your modus operandi as well as your primary tactical objectives, and you yourselves are the ones who know best how to perform the mission.
No organization that ever lived made it through in a constructive manner without seasoned, dedicated, responsible, knowledgeable, reliable, trustworthy leadership based entirely on merit rather than false privilege.
I really don´t think anymore needs to or should be said about the matter.
God Speed.
2. For others, I am confident that you have many friends who feel pretty much the way you or I do. Rather than spend our remaining days merely helping each other get by through talking it out together on this etheric forum (which, trust me, is very helpful in and of itself, it is just that more needs to be accomplished than such a tool can provide) I strongly urge each and every one of you to contact each other, get together and using the eminently successful KISS rule, become aware together of the myriad ways you can help each other in daily life.
Pool
Share
Cooperate
Alternate
Give
Barter
...well, I know you know what I am trying to say.
No army ever moved except on it´s stomach. This peoples army is no different.
3. While you are all very correct who have stated that there is no one on the end of the line when you e-mail, call, mail, etc., that is not exactly the purpose of those actions. If it were, you would all be getting great responses and the case is proven beyond doubt as you have yourselves experienced that you are, in fact, NOT represented, you are swindled while the corporate media helps by performing that snazzy song and dance routine for the benefit of the still benighted and confounded....
No.
The purpose is not to get an answer, (did you EVER get a straight answer from a liar?) which brings me to ask all of you, what exactly did you expect? Where do you live? Do you know where YOUR representive is? The purpose dear friends and fellow citizens of planet Earth, is precisely to send a clear and certain MESSAGE that the peoples are now aware. Thanks in large part to the latest machinations of that pack of wholly odious men and women that make the truth obvious to even the most consumptive individual. At long last.
Personally, being a rather hasty person, it is my hope that the inundation of phone lines, broadbands, mailrooms, et al will be enough to jolt even the most hardened ... pathological liar to the fact that the proverbial jig is in fact, up.
4. Santa is NOT coming to town...
Surely you can remember if you try, that there are other gratifying ways to spend the, for some, holiest of holidays than merely sweatstressing around like crowds of tormented sheep doing the same old same old for no really legitimate reason since you know very well that you can´t afford it, you know very well that 3/4 of the planet is starving, that most do not even have clean water let alone a meal...what´s that? the kids???????? Well gee whizz, how did they get that attitude anyway? Who put it in their heads in the first place?
Give to get. Get it?
If you absolutely MUST shop. I understand that, I have been there myself. So shop in Venezuela. Anywhere else in the deliberately deprived world will also do just as well, and please, please, forget Hellmarts for once.
By now I know a lot of you, not knowing me better, are asking yourselves who I think i am anyway, its easy for me to say etc etc. Well. I used to be a hotshot intl corporate sales "ace" for the top criminals in their racket.
Then one day it hit me that I would have to desert all over again rather than serve the crimes being commited against the innocent. Sadly, I had already managed to "arrange" the loss of jobs for thousands in many countries.
Yeah. How about that.
So I jumped off the train while it was rattling along and became an outcast to what they considered "my own kind", and happily embraced literal poverty.
At least I wasnt hurting anybody anymore.
After 3 near death experiences (nonvoluntary) brought on by the severest mental anguish and depression so black I cried every single day, for three years due to my understanding and the knowledge of my own ignorant, egobound participation in crimes against all life as we know it, I somehow managed to crawl out from under that rock.
Why am I telling you all of this? Because we are one thats why.
So nowadays, I give to get. And believe me, I get a lot. Not materially, I wouldnt take it anyway, but in human terms. I can breathe again and I dont cry so much. Except when the blinding rage hits me so hard sometimes because I cannot strike the enemy as is needed when I can see him there in front of me.
Well.
The enemy is here, ladies and gentlemen.
And he must be struck.
That is if you want yours and our children to have a life worth living. All it takes is the same it always takes. Guts, determination, complete dedication, self sacrifice (for the truth IS greater than any individual), and ingenuity.
We already have the intitiative, the high ground, and can choose the battlefield at will.
I am tired now. How about if some of you others give some suggestions as well, we can put it all together and presto, you will see that morale is rapidly building.
One last thing. DID the Minutemen lose?
There you go.
God Bless.
Doom n Gloom put forth the exhortation "Above all value all life. The two leggeds, four leggeds, the winged, finned, the insects, and the trees and plants. Learn to once again live in concert with nature..."
Jon Young? Tom Brown, Jr.?
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather that something else is more important than fear."
jimsenter asked "What can I do?"
Organize. Organize. Organize.
Take the lead yourself, or find a like-minded leader and give him/her your support.
Organize. The fundamental tenet of a democratic system is that the majority rules. A single person is never a majority.
Organize.
OREZ_ENO--I have to disagree with you on the point of saying 'good-bye Toyota". Like my Hondas, most of the Toyotas are made here in the USA, by American workers, who at my last check, received adequate wages and benefits. That is not the case with the Big Three American Name-Brand car manufacturers who are eliminating jobs, cutting pay, and cutting medical benefits. High tariffs should be placed on ALL American-name-brand products produced outside the United States and then imported here tariff-free. All of those products should be boycotted, as we should all foreign-made products. Honda and Toyota make QUALITY products that Americans love, and so GM, Ford, and Chrysler lose market share. I will never again buy an American-name-brand vehicle again. I got tired of the Chinese-like poor quality these three auto makers dumped on the public under the "Be Patriotic Pretense".
I will have to agree with many posters here that it is time to dump ALL of the current Senators other than Dennis Kucinich, and all of the current Representatives. It is time the People, of We The People, take back our government! Whichever way it's done is fine with me.
TonyVodvarka mused "Educated from the earliest age by a relentless barrage of TV commercials, serfs to consumer debt, afraid that a can of beer found in their car by some cop may derail their lives, utterly without civil rights or security in the workplace and lied to by almost everyone, Gee, why can't our young folk get their act together?"
Intersting comment. This reminds me of a conversation that I had with my daughter not long ago when I was railing about people trashing the place. She replied, "well, maybe you grew up when people still valued a clean environment, but since I've been alive, the world has always been trashed. That's just the way it is, and we've gotten used to it."
1messengerofmany,
Thank you for your very positive post. That is the goal. Now how do we get there?
I've shared your feelings about all this. I've also had the thought, regarding the lack of outrage, that the public may sense its dwindling power to effect change - even those who aren't aware that the financing of political campaigns by large corporations, and the deregulation that began with Reagan, now sets us apart from Europe as a goverment not of, by, and for the people, but big business.
Demonstrating in the streets may work well when you have elected reprentatives. But when you have "reprentatives" financed into office by for example, the health insurance and energy lobbies, I suspect that we could make all the noise we wanted and the politicians would't hear. Once they got in office, they'd set about fulfilling their duties to the corporate community exactly as they do now.
How we finance campaigns and how we've deregulated goverment to make, say, the EPA a paradoxical obstacle to environmental reforms - people would need to be protesting these fundamental issues, perhaps boycotting elections.
Yet these root issues aren't "sexy." Many citizens aren't even aware of them.
i shouldn't be stunned but i am, by the fact that npr news had a segment about how the television networks are in a dilemma over how to provide enough air time for both presidential candidates and 'holiday' shoppers...let's see now, what is more important to citizens--getting to know the folks asking for your vote to 'lead' the country or where to buy some freakin' mind numbing video game on sale???
priorities, they're skewed and we're screwed! BRING ON THE DRAFT, that'll un-numb their heads....don't misunderestimate the american public when it comes to forcing them to defend our 'freedom'....
A "Boom" is on the horizon, not a positive one but a negative one. America's debt load is unsustainable. The Earth Mother is in the process of re-balancing and we are feeling her negative effects. Nations are both silently and openly forming political and economic blocks against America. Some degree of U.S. National collapse seems inevitable. America's Culture of Death is being visited upon it. Pop culture, religious culture, and economic culture have shown their substantial dark sides. Our lifeways are unsustainable.
My thoughts: We must move to a new plane of existence defined by necessity a new enligtenment.
A culture of cooperation must supplant the culture of competition. The very essence of religion, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you," must again be celebrated.
Religions that claim that only through their faith can one be saved must be negated. They are a source of continuous war and a partner in Fascism.
We must individually and collectively build down our resource use to sustainable levels. This requires a paradigm change in our thinking. IT IS A PROCESS AND CONNOT BE ACHIEVED INDIVIDUALLY OVERNIGHT. So start now by greatly restricting your consumption. I have learned that it is both a learning process that takes time and an adjustment process that requires a change in values.
Strive for self sufficiency in your new sustainable life. Of course it is not entirely possible, we must rely on others. Learning who those others are and connecting with them takes time and effort. Example: I now wrench off used parts at auto junkyards to keep the family car running. I have found people to help me wrench and carry the used parts for a very reasonable price. I have also found mechanics that will work at home very reasonably. Together I have kept the old car running and not found it necessary to purchase a new or newer vehicle. It's amazing just how much can be saved and how much less resources are required.
Grow some of your own food and save the seeds for next year. It's very easy to do. Plant fruit trees in your yard or on your land. By doing this you will be forced to secure the necessary tools. Garage sales and farm sales are the best places to find used garden tools.
Learn how to treat water to make it potable.
Above all value all life. The two leggeds, four leggeds, the winged, finned, the insects, and the trees and plants. Learn to once again live in concert with nature. Life must be again celebrated and death defeated. It is in your personal and common best interest to do so.
Help others when you can. It usually hurts a bit to do so. But even a little help often makes the difference to someone in need.
Since we are the segment of society that can think and change we must do our part if we have any chance to transform and creat a new more enlightened level of existence. Start this very second. It's important.
Finally don't expect overnight results, it takes time. The sooner we begin the sooner the transformation.
Educated from the earliest age by a relentless barrage of TV commercials, serfs to consumer debt, afraid that a can of beer found in their car by some cop may derail their lives, utterly without civil rights or security in the workplace and lied to by almost everyone, Gee, why can't our young folk get their act together?
Impeach...
impeachment...
impeach.
John Conyers just subjected himself to another round of thunderous applause and shout outs for impeachment as he introduced and listened to Cindy Sheehan accept this years Cranbrook Peace Foundation Peace Award.
The word: impeach - grows in resonance everyday.
Be the one in your neighborhood to stand strong in the face of all this fear and help carry the Call To Impeach over the tipping point.
Don't give up on the Union's Founders, or Frederick Douglas and Harriet Tubman, stand strong for the children of tomorrow, and most of all stand strong with the beating of a free and clear heart on this and all days. For then it will be a good day to die...and even a greater day to live as a true American.
impeach...
impeachment...
impeach.
Global Warming is destroying the planet. The US is about to launch another war with the possibility of using nuclear weapons. These things can not be allowed to occur. Our "representatives" will not prevent these things from happening. The constitution and the bill of rights no longer mean anything. Neither Kucinich nor Paul have a chance of becoming president. The US has become a fascist state. Peaceful protests will not make this regime step down and allow change. There are no sizeable protests anyway since the population is so ignorant and lazy; especially the youth. While peace is our goal, it can no longer be denied that the only way to change this country is through a revolution or coup. For everyone here who angrily cringes at the notion of violence to topple the corporate domination of our country and our planet, i ask you: how will the protest movement or praying for an electoral miracle that won't be allowed to happen be any better?
EYE OF THE ABYSS -- so true, it's the object story of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37).
1. Jesus taught that you should love God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind; and that you should love your neighbor as yourself.
2. The Samaritan used his own bandages, wine, oil, donkey, and money to care for a hurt man he did not know. Luke 10:30-35.
3. Jesus taught that every person was a neighbor who should be cared for. Luke 10:29-37.
4. Jesus commanded the expert in the law to show love for his neighbors by meeting their needs. Luke 10:27, 29, 36-37.
JIM SENTER - May I remind you that Mark Twain said that history doesn't repeat, but it can rhymes?
Do you feel similarly about the people of Germany, as victims, or were they (somehow) complicit in the acts undertaken by their gov't? Isn't it better to BE empowered now, than gird against obvious future reparations, as if we do live for our children, are we not but stealing from their very future by allowing this monster to swell and consume the Earth's peoples?
Namaste
__ __ __ __ We must be the change
__ __ __ __ we wish to see in the world __ Gandhi
THIS IS ALL BULL hooee. Yea, blame the American people so you don't have to acknowledge the extent to which this nation has slipped into fascism. Most people I know are struggling to keep a roof over their heads and their heads on their shoulders. Struggling to maintain econommic viability and sanity in this world where every bleeping thing has gone totally mad.
And how many times do you expect me to write letters to the paper that aren't printed? How many times do you expect me to haul my ass onto the street to a demonstration that is not only ignored by my Congressional "representative" but also the "news" media? How many times do you expect me to write my Congress hack and get back one of those insulting form letters that has nothing to do with what I wrote? I keep doing those things because I'm a stubborn bastard. Many people aren't and have reasonably concluded that it is not worth the effort. While "Nothing I do matters" may be another lie we've been sold, people are not out on the street in large numbers anymore, not because they are stupid or apathetic, but because they are reasonably asking themselves "What can I do?" And no one is giving them any answers to that question. Especially not the good liberals on this website.
The author very correctly expresses the rationale for the collective responsibility of every US citizen for the grevious crimes of this country - not the least of which is the unmentioned complicity in the war crimes and crimes against humanity being inflicted on the desperate and powerless Palestinian people. Collective guilt is especially appropriate for US citizens - a country where protest is free and safe (unlike Nazi Germany, where protest was at risk of life). Passive US citizens are the very "bystanders" that Amira Haas of Ha'aretz righteously so abhors. Bystanders are complicit in atrocities - and on this premise all US citizens should not be surprised to be the object of scorn and even hatred. And sadly, even this author seems a bystander when it comes to the victims of Israeli/US land theft and terror against the Palestinians.
Yes, Americans are stunned by 60 hours/week work load, by football, by the endless pursuit of happiness, by the wet American Dream by an education that focus only on the acquisition of skills. Frankly today Americans are not citizens anymore, just consumers.
Most Americans contributes almost nothing to the American success story except ballast. They are simply ditto heads that function as units of labor and purchasing power. As I said, not citizens, consumers. Citizens can become angry and demonstrate. Consumers are numbed zombies.
I am stunned and surprised that this article appears in Common Dreams instead of in mainstream media. Here, it is like preaching to the choir.
We, the Americans, are generally weak on math and politics. We are the nation of three S's: sports, stomach, and sex. We suffer from decreased cognitive complexity.
You might want to think about the following quotes from great men:
THE RIGHT OF REVOLUTION IS AN INHERENT ONE. WHEN PEOPLE ARE OPPRESSED BY THEIR GOVERNMENT, IT IS A NATURAL RIGHT THEY ENJOY TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES OF OPPRESSION. ULYSSES S. GRANT
THE TIME IS NEAR AT HAND WHICH MUST DETERMINE WHETHER AMERICANS ARE TO BE FREE MEN OR SLAVES – GEORGE WASHINGTON
A PATRIOT MUST ALWAYS BE READY TO DEFEND HIS COUNTRY AGAINST HIS GOVERNMENT – EDWARD ABBEY
THE PURPOSE OF THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IS TO KEEP FOREVER FROM THESE SHORES THE CEASELESS STRIFE THAT SOAKED THE SOIL WITH BLOOD FOR CENTURIES – JAMES MADISON
IT IS TO BE REGRETTED THAT THE RICH AND POWERFUL TOO OFTEN BEND THE ACTS OF GOVERNMENT TO THEIR OWN SELFISH PURPOSES – ANDREW JACKSON
I HOPE WE SHALL CRUSH IN ITS BIRTH THE ARISTOCRACY OF OUR MONIED CORPORATIONS WHICH DARE ALREADY TO CHALLENGE OUR GOVERNMENT TO A TRIAL BY STRENGHT AND BID DEFIANCE TO THE LAWS OF OUR COUNTRY – THOMAS JEFFERSON
1messengerformany, your tenants for Democracy reflect the historic beliefs and lifeways of American Indians. Democracy in America began with the Iroquois Confederacy and was obliterated by our Euro invader occupier ancestors. Is it not understandable that the genocide of 112 million Indians has come full circle and is now being visited upon the progeny of the invader, by the same spirit that killed my ancestors. Euro/Americans are defined by death.
This article reflects exactly what I have thought for the last two years. H.L. Mencken called us "Boobus Americanus". We're worse; we have lost our spirit. We shit in our pants and suck our thumbs huddled in the corner not wanting to disturb the politicans.
There is no outrage, there is only fear. "If I don't say anything maybe it will go away'. In the meantime
republican goons destroy our basic freedoms and the fabric of this country.
Our moronic president tells outrageous lie after lie and nobody has the temerity to stand toe to toe with him and tell him he is a sick, ignorant fool.
The outrage is gone, deserted by fearful, feckless
citizens kept in fear by republican lies.
Surley Old Man
Denver, Colorado
There is an old Middle Eastern saying to the effect:
"People seldom get the leaders they want, but they always get the leaders they deserve."
It's all about "new realities," from the quote that Ron Suskind wrote about from an unnamed White House official. Manipulating society to believe big lies or, at the least, not be certain of what the facts are leaves citizens in confusion. Turning our best, those who are heroic, the whistleblowers, those who take actions for the right reasons, are systematically painted as rejects. There's denial, and hopelessness, and our limitations both economically and physically. Many have little time to ferret out the facts. Access to MSM for some erratic sound bites is no way to develop one's critical thought processes. Did you see the supposed liberal newspaper, The Washington Post, with a doctored photo of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson as a villain? Did you read TWP's long opinion piece after the Nov. 2004 election claiming, falsely, that exit polls weren't reliable in testing the accuracy of the vote? With all the evidence of election fraud and disenfrachisement and statistical impossibilities, it is repeated over and over in articles and posts that George W. Bush was elected, a well-established "new reality."
"Half of the people in this country own stock" is a misleading factoid the casinokeepers of the marketplace trot out to show that their way is the right and only way. They don't mention that the "half" who own this stock consists mostly of people who have investment managed pension plans. Folks like that (and I am one) have no idea which stocks we own a part of, and we certainly wouldn't be treated as individual shareholders with clout if we flaunted our shareholderness and tried to influence senior management policy. The rude fact remains that most of the controlling interest in corporations are big bucks stock fund managers who have the game rigged to their advantage.
This is an interesting thread. I don't know if anyone will read it all the way down to get to me. The logo idea kind of speaks to what we need, but better would be some media visible people who could make dissent seem exciting and heroic. The movie stars do what they can for short periods like Sean Penn is doing and Warren Beatty did (because playing the part of a presidential candidate had been fun), but they drift off and do paparazzi pleasing red carpet walk bys. The majority of plain American folks (including that half that owns all that stock) see them limousine liberals, pretentiously self-infatuated flakes, who are eager to put our money where their mouth is.
As it is now, the dissenting voices who aren't protected by celebrity status all seem like that guy in the old western movies, in the middle of the lynch mob, who says, "Maybe we shouldn't string him up" only to be jeered at and shouted down by the remaining gaggle of the noose-happy campers.
The reason they don't come after websites like this big time is that we're no threat to them. It gives people the chance to say "The American people should DO something" without providing anything to do that has any real chance of having an impact. Opposing them is risky, like taunting a huge mean crazy bully.
Where is our Patrick Henry, our Thomas Paine, our Eugene Debs, our Abbie Hoffman? Most of the "people" who are at least willing to say soto voce to pollsters that they disapprove of the way things are currently going would follow the lead of someone exciting and charismatic. Hope it doesn't turn out to be a Hitler-in-progress.
But until someone comes along who can make the case in an exciting way, one that can be emulated, progressive minded people will continue to try to force themselves to invest their hopes in one or the other of the current crop of bet-hedging presidential candidates.
Maybe I'll flesh this out post it somewhere. Can't hurt (unfortunately).
It is interesting that this essay has prompted this many responses. I haven't read all of them so I don't know if this has been stated already. I believe that people are afraid.
I was at a protest in San Francisco which was notable for the way the police force handled themselves. Aside from that, the right wing in this country has spent the last 40 years getting ready to keep the people of this country "shocked and awed". It is a terrible reality to have to confront but it has happened so slowly and incrementally that we are all like the frog in the pot who has been slowly acclimated to the boiling point. What to do?
Believe that we shall overcome someday.
Please ignore the corporate media brainwash and cast your vote in the primary based upon the issues.
Think for yourself, and if you agree with Dennis Kucinich, vote for him.
HUZZAH FOR THE AUSSIES!!
If they can do it, so can we! Check it out!
Regarding
"ELECT DENNIS KUCINICH - he is our only real hope."
I, being Canadian, am like many here, outside the wall. And I, like many Canadians am deeply interested in and have an abiding passion for our cousins, south of the border.
It is easy to like and respect Dennis. This side of the border, he would probably be leading the pack with good cause. I'd have no hesitation in supporting him. But the US side of the border, what possible hope does he have of being elected? He is one dark horse in this race, the other being Ron Paul. Ron Paul like Dennis strikes me as intelligent, honest, and with the courage to call wrong, wrong. Those are perhaps the most important attributes for those who would seek to lead. Character should trump policy. I don't know what is best for America; nor is it my place to interfere in the internal affairs of other nations; but Ron Paul running for President, with Dennis Kucinich as his running mate would go a long way to curing this republican/democrat divide, while ridding the US of corruption/subservience to special interests at the top. Further, Dennis and Ron collectively have the credentials to atone for past American foreign policy, since they are not personally tarnished by it. They would be much needed new brooms. It has been openly suggested to Ron Paul that he might choose Dennis as his running mate, and he has voiced some support for that idea.
I wonder if those who would support Dennis should also be voicing support for this idea, for if Dennis and Ron are to make a difference both need to be somewhere where they can make a difference. Dennis and Ron together would draw votes from across the entire policial spectrum, and would have a good chance of beating the alternative more of the same democatic elected nominee, whoever that might be, while Dennis and Ron, running on an independent ticket (even if they collectively chose to do so) would be so marginalised as to probably have none.
Stunned, apathetic? Impotent?
People who made "The Corporation" documentary claim half the people in this country own stock. Why aren't they at the annual stockholders meeting to demand peoples needs get put back on the bottom line, middle lines and top line? Coca Cola stockholders did it when practices in apartied South Africa offended.
Neocons, dispensationalists and zionists do not count a majority. Why do the rest of us allow the support of thier armagedan bound insanity?
The United States opperates on a trade deficit, it's no secrete. Israel operates on a trade profit. "Our" Congress votes billions to Israel. And "we the people" sit still after our lottery tickets are in our pockets, the beer is in the frig, and cigarettes in our pockets.
This year I became aware of the truth about Thanksgiving. Seems the Iroqoi have a different view of it. It's still nice to spend time with family and reconnect.
I am angry , ashamed, but not discouraged with my "fellow americans". I can't believe I am the only one ready to stop sounding right and doing what I can. Maybe we need to show those frozen in fear how to manage. From Danny Schector to Jacdon, there are people who are bringing us the truth when corporate media brings us managed perceptions. There are opportunities to take a stand. We cannot be apathetic. But we cannot be silent with the entrenched apathetics.
funeocons November 26th, 2007 8:50 pm: "So, am I supposed to give up my job, my kids' future, my health insurance, my home, and everything I have worked so hard to achieve to fight these crooks?"
Tough choice, huh? I expect we're going to loose all that whether we fight them or not. If we're lucky, we'll be the 'savages' in a Brave New World, living somewhere beyond the 'perimeter'.
Again, my grammatical errors, spelling and such. Pardon, please.
Yes, it takes courage to stand up, but the time to stand up is not when things go wrong, but when things are wrong. I was recently in the Azores and happened to catch "The Dixie Chicks" on TV. What a forceful reminder, just seeing them, that there were a few (sadly too few) who stood up to be counted when the being counted took courage. They were the conscience of America, and they were vilified. It hurts that so many who should have known right from wrong, simply didn't, or if they did lacked the courage to call wrong wrong to its face. How did a nation built on a foundation of grass roots democracy, and rugged individualism, become so much a nation of yes people, that only yes people it seems can hope to be elected.
It takes no courage to say yes. Strike the last line from the American national anthem, if America as a nation can't stand behind those with the courage to call wrong wrong when America as a nation errs. Better yet, strike the last two lines.
Seriously disturbed with ever increasing frequency of Americans, dumbed down, American Idol, ignorant, lack education, no outrage coments.
I have been outraged for too long, Do not F##king care about the incessant pissing and moaning of what I do. Generalizations, this is what is bothersome, the many that have decided just who I am by what they feel is absolute. You are wrong.
I have been doing everything in my power since 14, to not allow what is happening to have ever happen. The repetition of many and the actions of few = now. It takes 12 or more hours/day, 7 days/week, participation in any or all actions. Calls, emails, letters, protests, sitting your ass in front of a recruiting center, only if it is just you, do some thing, or whine @ Americans, usually by non-Americans, Americans certainly, I truly grow 'curiouser and curiouser', about the things people that have much to jaw about do to try and stop this bullshit.
Who cares, 12/05/2007, DC, Supreme Court, GITMO SHUTDOWN, NOW, most assuredly everyone here knows why there and just what cases are being presented that day, their names, the lawyers, the REASONS. Everyone knows, yeah. Thought so.
I stay and at 52, I want this country back, I am doing all I can. It is of no consequence if you opine endlessly about me, I know what I do, I know why I do it and I will never stop, I refuse, simply refuse.
Damn right, I am moving out of this country, I have a computer and can do all my boring, House, Senate, Special Committees things any where, where I move there will still be Ladies in Black, there will still be Vets 4 Peace, maybe not American Vets, I am, I will help them, I will not stop. I choose to leave, not to Canada, 3 taze murders in , what, 2 weeks, movin' on up. Somewhere I will be left the f##k alone, people over 70 that remember how they fought w/the Resistance, their stories and memories, I love to hear them and see their eyes as they remember and feel as they felt then.
I do what I do because I love what this country once was, deny each of you that it ever was anything, 1st is still 50% active, I hope, the FEEB's are always listening to us, funny bunch, H R 1955, but bush what is that to him, nothing, as with everything with bush.
I do not HOPE, I do, because I choose to act, been called worse names walking down the street, the 1st, lay hands on me, different story. Makes no never mind. We all choose, we make our way, get a damn pocket size Constitution, keep it handy, remind you of what is gone, what we demand back or choose to demean an entire country of CITIZENs that, in fact, many where I am do a damn lot. Enough of me. Enjoy your evening, moon is waning, maybe tonight not so much mania.
armybrat November 26th, 2007 8:11 pm : "What the people who oppose this dictatorship - and that is exactly what we're now experiencing (fascism) need is a national logo - a national brand that will identify us with one another. ...."
Yes !! Thank you for this post. It is the most constructive and reasonable argument I've read on CD so far.
I live North of your borders and wish that my fellow Canadians would take heed of what you write and apply it to our own country and society. We're not much better (off) than our friends in the US and we're much further along on the path into the black hole that is the current US than most realize. If anything, our colonial character makes us more complacent.
Since corporations are the only voice that is heard these days,lets start our own corporation and use the money to lobby!
The prophets are out there - who are writing of a New America:
The New America
Not without struggle will the new America come into being,
But with the knowledge of a virtue once lost to be regained,
And with the yearning of a hope once dashed
upon the shores of self-seeking,
Now reaffirmed as a promise that belongs to all.
This America will rise on the shoulders of honor
and be uplifted by a heart that longs to serve
the helpless, the downtrodden, the needy.
It will not rise on the shoulders of the mighty,
but on the shoulders of the kind and the generous –
on the strength of those who are fearless in their desire to love.
The new Republic of America shall give to all what belongs to all,
The right to live freely, to breathe purely, to belong to the earth
as the earth belongs to all creatures,
To share in the earth's bounty in a feast that excludes no one,
in which all who are hungry may be fed.
This America will no longer tolerate the haughty and the proud,
Those who seek stature through gaining power over others
or through the dissembling that makes one look better
that another may look worse.
Tolerance will be a foundation in this new America,
But more than tolerance will be needed
by those who seek to represent the people.
For these, in particular, will need to be humble before God and man.
They will need to be devoted to ideals that will be of benefit to all -
that will share with all the abundance of an abundant land.
Those who will lead America will not act in order to save face,
But will already possess a face that speaks the truth
and that seeks to follow it.
In all things, the new America shall hold itself to a standard of honor
that refuses to allow a pandering to self-interest
in order that some may have more, while others have less.
It will, in upholding this standard, recognize that there is no self-interest
that does not include the interest of all,
And there is no accomplishment that does not satisfy
what the hearts of all men long for.
This standard, held high, shall bar none, shall exclude no one,
And, holding itself accountable to a higher measure of justice and mercy,
shall embrace all as one people,
manifested as many,
humble before God.
LightAmericaSpirit.org
We the People of the United States: The Impulse Behind the Founding of a Nation
Here is another example:
PRINCIPLES SUPPORTING A NEW DEMOCRACY
1) The capacity for blending
Here, the interest of one does not get lost in the interest of a group. For each member of the group holds the common goal of having the interests of each one become blended into an outcome or goal that serves all.
2) The absence of competition
Here, there is a striving to do and to give one's best, not so that we can be better than another, but so that we can more fully express our inner nature and our creativity.
3) The intuition of harmony
As with Principle 1), the interest of one does not stand out as being above the interests of all. Harmony develops out of the wish of each person to find the common ground that unites, rather than the separate will that divides. It also comes out of the belief that harmony is possible, given the fact that all are one, for without this belief there would be nothing to strive for.
4) The sharing of resources
Because of the experience of unity with others, the idea of holding onto what is 'mine' no longer makes sense. There is a self-identity, but it is part of a greater whole and this whole is also part of one's self-identity. For this reason, having more than others does not contribute to a sense of well-being in the way that it did in the past, for the 'others' are oneself as well. This experience gives rise to a new economic life with a new foundation - one which ends division among the wealthy who 'have' and the poor who 'have not'.
5) The acceptance of reality
Here, denial and manipulation are replaced by a willingness to see 'what is' because there is trust in 'what is'. The fear of death, for example, no longer infuses political conflict and life in general, because life and death are seen to be part of a sacred process of continual renewal, and extreme measures do not have to be taken to avoid death or the consciousness of death. This shift affects many of the personal elements of life that give rise to political debate - issues concerning health and ageing in particular. Industries that are based on the collective fear of ageing no longer have a place, for their consciousness becomes part of an obsolete need to prevent or deny the ageing process. This no longer has merit or validity.
6) The elimination of violence
Based on an understanding that 'my' life is not separate from 'yours', the basis for war and killing is undermined. There can be no killing if 'you are not separate from me' and if 'I am you'. The basis for all violence is undermined as a result of the perception of unity.
7) The intuition of higher purpose
Here, the self recognizes that at all times, the purpose of an individual life exists in harmony with a larger purpose - the purpose of all of life. Within social and political discourse, this means that a group can sit together and align themselves with this higher purpose by going more deeply into their hearts and intuiting what the higher purpose of the group may be at any given moment in time and how each individual may play a part in it.
8) The understanding of cause and effect
Perceiving life to be one makes available the understanding that what we send out into the universe is part of a never-ending circle of energy that either benefits or detracts from the whole, and that it cannot benefit ourselves if it does not benefit others. What we send out into the universe returns to us because we are part of a circle of life. All behavior is conditioned by this understanding.
9) The capacity for trust
The capacity for trust is based on the understanding that we live within a sacred reality and that God, by whatever name God is called, is at the center. There is no aspect of life that is not part of this sacred reality and so there is no part of life that cannot be trusted. Without the fear of death operating in the background, decisions can be made based on trust, and many possible paths of exploration can be tried without fear being a necessary component. The capacity for trust allows each one to develop the quality of flexibility rather than rigidity, of creativity in relation to the future rather than needing to repeat the past, and of a willingness to try new solutions to problems that face the whole, rather than needing to remain attached to any particular position or outcome.
10) The awareness of diversity
Here, the understanding remains that while we are each part of a greater whole, each one has something particular and unique to contribute to that whole. The celebration of diversity and a kind of curiosity to know the origins and qualities that make each different, can take place when diversity still maintains a common goal of serving the interests of all rather than the interests of the self. Individuals can remain distinctly different from each other in their forms of expression and still remain faithful to the interests of all. The conflict that formerly existed between the self and others because of diversity is no longer present because there is no longer a separation between the self and others.
11) Planning for the future
Concern for the wellbeing of all allows each group or government to plan for the welfare of all in a way that maximizes the use of existing resources without the desire to give to the present all that exists and disregard what is to come. The self is one not only with other lives in the present, but with all the lives of future generations. For this reason, concerns about the environment and care for the preservation of planetary resources is paramount in taking care of the life of the planet and in taking care of the life of future generations. There is no longer a disregard for the impact of the behavior of oneself on the resources of a planet that is shared by all. The planetary environment is safeguarded as the body is safeguarded. It is the essential material form that allows life to continue and is perceived as sacred.
12) The feeling of compassion
Universal love gives rise to the feeling of compassion for all that lives. Unity is not a dry perception, but rather contains the heart at the center of every point of view. Compassion generates the desire to relieve suffering not only for oneself, but for all who suffer or are in pain. It is the necessary outcome of perceiving our life and wellbeing to be inextricably tied to the wellbeing of all. Compassion is the expression of the ability to "love our neighbors as ourselves." It is the natural expression of the heart, unencumbered by the need to protect and defend its own territory or to separate itself from the interests of all. Compassion is the emotion which binds people together in families, in groups, in nations, and in the world - the human expression of God's love that allows for the feeling of embracing life with tenderness. Compassion is the emotional aspect of unity that allows the heart its fullest expression.
Tenets for a New Democracy
I am doing "what I can" to help in the capacity I am able in Post Katrina New Orleans at PostKatrina2007.blogspot.com
And I am not afraid to be secretly imprisoned, tasered, or tortured. If that is the courage it now takes to be an American, I am ready.
Peace.
KEM - your humor is at times as sharp as a heart attack, like when you muse about Cheney: "but I see today that Cheney is having another heart problem. ____ I don't see how that could be possible though."
Maybe is something like the picture of Dorian Grey, but here it's the heart(s) of Darth Chenny, as every time his sin quotient reaches a breaking point he just goes down to Gitmo and rips out another fresh one?
It is scary about subsistence farming challenges, and even water supply issues for survival.
Namaste
__ __ __ __ We must be the change
__ __ __ __ we wish to see in the world __ Gandhi
LeeAnnG writes "Over and over again, I read comments about the apathy of the American people. The progressive 'net is full of criticism for what we are not doing . . . But I keep posting and asking, "What are the exact steps we should be taking?" And I get virtually no answers. I, and many of my friends, have written letters to the editor and our legistlators both on the state and federal level, called our legislators and signed petitions, marched in protests . . ."
LeeAnnG, good for you, it seems to me you already have the answers. If just 5% of the adult population-- about 10 million people-- did what you are doing, every representative would be deluged with mail, the newspapers would be deluged.
Note that doing something unusual is much more effective than ceasing to do something usual. If 5% of the population cuts back by half on Christmas spending, the result is that sales will be 97.5% of their previous enormous amount. So what? Thats a bad idea. So is a "general strike" in which only a small minority participate.
The best thing would be to organize that 5% so that they all do some positive thing at the same time, e.g., we all write to Washington Post (or NYT or LA Times) and ask them to stop ignoring impeachment. So far they have let their pundits demean anyone who suggests it. Even outside the editorial page, in news reports that are supposed to be objective, the Post mocks the notion of impeachment. Lets demand instead that they write a serious series of articles on impeachment.
rebelnow,
The creepy part is that the fascists, themselves, have learned to drop the uniform, stiff-arm salute and symbol. They learned that the movement was less recognizable, less likely to generate a personified backlash, etc. if it remained -- outwardly -- in the backdrop. Rather, it would seek to embed itself into the fabric of the economy.
They wear a subtler uniform, but the tailoring is unmistakable.
I have lost faith in the voting system. My husband and I joined the independent party and just got an absentee ballot asking if we want to vote Democratic or Independent--the only choices in California if you are an independent.. I have worked the elections the last five years with people that couldn't count to ten and this year I elected not to work.
After a long night of petitioning in the streets for Kucinich (most usually being ignored by people glued to their cellphones and i-pods, but not infrequently being engaged in conversation by very thoughtful, engaged folks) I walk away with two opposed opinions of Americans and democracy:
1. Americans deserve the democracy they get, which is a shitty one to match their insular, individualistic attitudes
2. It is the responsibility of those of us who think about politics, who have a grasp of the issues, to make the effort to communicate with the others, to try to get them to write and make phone calls and at least think for 5 minutes about what is going on...in short, it is the responsibility of most of us on this website to do a lot more work than the other kinds of people who couldn't be bothered, to try to make them care at least a little, tiny bit. It is a burden that comes with critical thinking and social conscience.
I must say, the people who signed and who talked, thanked me profusely for what I was doing. It was very gratifying. To hell with the i-pod freaks...I'll fight for them too without expecting anything in return.
But mainly stunned by the MSM. Will the Internet reveal the truth? Will our children even search for it? After all, they've had better nutrition and so they're smarter and more computer literate than we are.
If God exists and plans things, maybe this is all part of a plan to let us learn from our mistakes. To let us overpopulate the earth so more people can invent more things for more money until we (accidentally?) invent something(s) that will solve all our problems if we don't kill ourselves first. Maybe this is another faith-based initiative but without the rapture.
I am outraged -- and I have taken to the streets, plastered my car with bumper stickers, signs in my yard, marched in DC and my southwestern city, became a Precinct committee person and walk my district for better candidates, give as much money as I can every month to causes that promote real social change, write letters, blog, sign petitions, talk to everyone I know, stay informed, and attend as many events as I can.
But it doesn't matter because the system is broken. You realize pretty quickly that all you do is pretty futile. Maybe some choir-preaching satisfaction, but not much else. Like Naomi Wolf says in her book (I just started it, so maybe she says something else about this later on), but the democratic mechanisms that make these types of actions effective are gone. The pendulum won't swing back because it CAN'T swing back and our government won't respond to our demands because it isn't aligned with our purpose.
So, am I supposed to give up my job, my kids' future, my health insurance, my home, and everything I have worked so hard to achieve to fight these crooks? Because that is exactly what will happen if I do what I so long to do -- hit the streets and STAY there until we make them change. I find myself wishing I didn't have a beautiful family, a home, a great job that I love so I could devote my whole life to working for social justice. How f**ked up is that?
We live in the land without any safety net whatsoever. Who will hold our lives together while we fight for our non-existent democracy? As you begin to try to seriously confront these injustices, you find that there is no one is charge -- there is no edge to this corrupt system, and no way out. At least for now, anyway. Meanwhile, my kids want dance lessons, Christmas presents, and just to have some "fun" family time (and standing on street corners holding up signs is not their idea of fun).
I will continue to do what I can do, but don't say that there is no outrage. There is -- and it's the worst kind -- the kind that comes from not being able to do anything about it.
ELECT DENNIS KUCINICH - he is our only real hope.
ARMYBRAT, I used someones quote, where, when?
armybrat, the uniform idea is creepy, the rest of your comment seems right on, but uniforms?
One thing that people keep saying here (and elsewhere) needs to be corrected:
It has not "always been this way" with Americans.
We have not always been a dog-eat-dog society, with people so shamelessly greedy, consumerist, anti-intellectual, and sadistic. Does anyone else here remember what it was like during the 60s and 70s, before Reagan began the process of creating the kind of Americans the writer of this article is lamenting?
During the 70s, someone like Kucinich could certainly have been elected, everyday American conversation wasn't devoid of sociopolitical discussion, there weren't right-wing attack hawks in every neighborhood keeping people stupid and afraid, people were not as into unabashed conspicuous consumption as they are now, and there was even real, honest talk and action to do with reducing energy use and, unimaginable as it seems today, living without energy.
I know I'm not the only one who remembers these things. Note that nowhere here do I mention perfection, only a better national environment than we have today. And don't give me any shit about those times being better because the economy (whatever that is) was better. It has more to do with human will than with money. The fact that it's been different and better in the past means that it can be made different and better in the future. It will be more difficult to improve things in this violent, Reaganized land than it was pre-1980, but it is possible.
That said, I remain as pessimistic about Americans now as many of you here. I wish I'd done what journalist John Ross did during the 80s: left the country because he saw the societal changes Reagan was initiating as being irreversible. I fear he was probably right.
What the people who oppose this dictatorship - and that is exactly what we're now experiencing (fascism) need is a national logo - a national brand that will identify us with one another. This will help the fearful feel that they really do have moral support - and that there are sufficient numbers to challenge the oligarchy. When I suggested such tactics to liberals, they had a fit - what, YOU WANT US TO CONFORM?!! They all wanted to 'do their own thing' - to no avail, of course. They wanted to preach to the choir, expecting others would join their bandwagon - what arrogance! Americans are largely conservative moderates and will follow whatever banner offers strength and solidarity - from either side. Wise up, folks. Use tactics that are proven to work - then even the press will pay attention.
Well, you see how far their tactics got us - despite the success of the minority opposition. The average person will follow a nutcase - a true believer - who sticks to message and exudes confidence and security. Democrats offer little or nothing along these lines, other than a 'protest' vote - which doesn't matter anymore anyway.
Do you really want to know what to do? Choose a uniform - colors, just as used by sports teams, military and paramilitary groups (gangs), etc - so we can identify ourselves. Want your protest march to attract real attention? Then dress conservatively (in colors, of course) and march in straight rows and in cadence. Make sure all signs are low-key and professionally printed. If you want to attract support, you must project organization, conformity, solidarity, and security - that's what people really crave.
I'm not saying that this is an instant cure - but it is an important part of the program that has been ignored - or even rejected. Well, do you want to win, or do you want to 'be right'? Drown your damned ego, or suffer the consequences - there are millions of years of evolution against you if you resist conformity and organization! Go ahead and keep trying what doesn't work. Besides, you'll attract youth - they love uniforms and conformity (doesn't everyone) and they are our future. If you don't give them a uniform and a 'tribe' - Uncle Sam will!
I live simply - now. Spend the minimum and shop at garage sales rather than retail. I didn't come from that class - I do this out of moral necessity, not financial constraints. Keeping shopping to a minimum is a great tactic - but you have to promote it in a better way - as it was done in WWII. Open an account in another country if you can - otherwise, buy euros (or even Canadian dollars) to save - my conservative friends collect Krugerands because they're gold. And for Pete's sake, shut off the damned TV, especially on weekends - organize community events and shun anyone who prefers professional sports as an alternative - make corporate conformity unpopular and unAmerican. Get out an play sports instead of watching them on TV - get a life. Meet at least one new neighbor every week, and discuss the situtaion in our country with them - then invite them to a community event. And if you're a liberal, don't advertise it - this isn't about politics, but about survival. We're losing our country, and this may be our last chance to save it. Bury your ego, no matter how much it hurts - or that will be all you have left. Politics is divisive - avoid it.
Please do not rail against the people who wisely leave this country - they are patriots too. Members of my own family often fled dictators - and joined the Allied Forces to fight the last batch of fascists. Others joined the Resistance - at great risk to their families, and even communities. There is no easy way - but there are several ways to fight, and each must do what they can.
KEM PATRICK: Ever hear of Santayana? You used his quote and attributed it to Churchill... George Santayana was an immigrant from Spain - that last fascist state that the US kept in power for decades after WWII ended...
Stop blaming Americans - most are just brainwashed, ignorant, stupid or scared. Most seek escapism out of fear and frustration - helplessness - this is a normal human response to a frightening situation. How about asking people living in free countries - who have no fear of repression by their government (or neighbors) why they aren't doing anything to push their own governments into helping us, instead of the corporate oligarchs and US government. Why did they fold after the first multi-million protest against the invasion of Iraq? They're safe and comfortable - we need more emigrants to stir them to action - before it's too late for them as well. Just look at what happened in France! Many nations did the same thing with Hitler - appeased him instead of standing in solidarity against his heinous reign of terror, hoping they would escape his greedy grasp - most didn't, and should know better now. We need to ask Europeans and Scandinavians, as well as Canadians and Australians, to speak out - to goad their governments into 'doing the right thing' by condemning the US and corporate world government. We all lose under fascism - it doesn't work, and the damage done is painful to repair - and the dead are dead forever.
I tried to warn the liberal protesters in my area many years ago - they rejected my suggestions. See how well they've done? Instead of building support for peace, freedom, security, and prosperity - we now have a jaded and beaten bunch of losers crying in their beer - they gave up, or crawled into self-centered feel-good do-nothing social programs that do nothing more than try to plug holes in the dike. It isn't working. Ask conservatives what it takes to prevail - they know how to organize and win. And most of them hate the fascists and dictators just as much as you do.
As one who has written angry "letters to the editor" both on a local and national basis, I am convinced that the media today is in bed with the neo-con corporatizers, and the only hope for the U.S. lies wholly with the general public - - indeed, if they will ever get angry enough to mount a ttal sit-down strike - - or, Heaven forbid, a REVOLUTION!
rtdrury
Leftists? Wall Street? Have you lost your fucking mind?
It is very difficult for a normal, sane, compassionate person to recognize a psychopath. I happen to have recently been victimized by one, and have taken some time and some effort to understand that state of being. I submit that this country (in the persons of corporations and many of their minions) are psychopathic in nature— totally amoral, totally without conscience, the very essence of "evil". I will not say that we have elected a cadre of these psychopaths to govern us, because I do not think they were elected, but in true psychopathic form, simply stole what they wanted and continue to impose that vision on all of us and the world. They must be stopped, or our children have no future.
I am not a learned man, just an old farmer who has watched the country and a society (very imperfect though they were) left in the dust of greed and lust for power.
Psychopathy is ugly.
What do you expect from dumbed-down people? The Bush Family Evil Empire has raised tuition for higher education to ensure that there are future slaves and also fodder for the military-industrial-complex, and to ensure that only the wealthy war criminals/profiteers stay in power to rule us indefinitely.
Impeachment? Go here NOW and watch and listen from New Hampshire:
http://www.kucinichtv.com/
For the one who hopes we have a depression, I will say this. Any who hope that, better not be here when it hits. This is not 1929 and there will be total anarchy this time. Few will survive, think about it. During the depression of 29, there were millions of small farmers and ample food, few starved or even went hungry for any length of time. This time, those farmers are history and there won't be ample farmer's markets to feed the populatin we have now. People will fight for food. The next depression will result in the death of this nation.
And for those who plan on leaving. Be careful of where you may go. In 1940 a young couple we knew fled to a beautiful South sea island and obtained jobs at a new resort, because they feared America would be drawn into WW2. They were very intellignet people. They were killed by the Japanese durng an air raid, on December 12th, 1941.
I'm with Ragdoll. Remove our national narcotic: TV. You can't sit around watching hours of the garbage and nonsense that's blasted over the airwaves at our collective psyche, and then give one single hoot about anything that's actually happening around you.
Shame on US for CHOOSING to spend so much of our precious time glued to our seats in front of our idiot boxes, one for every room in our McMansions and one in each of our SUVs. We've become a nation of idiots too stunned to respond appropriately to this outrageous presidential team.
Well, it takes courage to stand up if you're powerless. Brass balls.
If you're in an elected position to effect change, no courage is required. Just honesty.
Daniel Ellsberg
Amy Goodman
Daniel Berrigan
It takes courage to stand up and do something.
Most Americans are passive about the Bush administration and the Iraq occupation because, for the most part, their lives have not really been affected much. They can still drive their cars, watch TV, drink beer, etc. Life doesn't appear to have changed much. True, there has been deterioration in the quality of life of the poor and middle-class but it has been gradual. It's the old story about the frog and the gradually heating water. Most people will not sit up and take notice until the things they are used to having become unavailable or noticeably, dramatically change.
The only time I have seen regular Americans get agitated about a public issue was during the gas crisis of the 1970's. Gas prices went up. THAT was something they noticed because it affected their ability to drive their cars. As soon as that was over they went back to the TV, beer, shopping malls, etc.
As to what to do, I believe the only things that will work will be massive disruption and force. If we had millions of angry people in the streets, shutting down stores, stopping transportation, disrupting the economy, that might force a change. Some people have suggested a general strike. That may well work IF at least 10 million people participate. But most people will not become involved until their lives are physically affected; say by a massive depression or a major increase in gas prices.
LeeAnnG November 26th, 2007 3:06 pm, wrote ".. what exactly do you expect us to do ...?"
In the current game, we (the world) are Check Mate. We slept through the crucial final moves and now all moves are blocked.
Our last opportunity to act passed when we stood by while a few old men crowned the emperor. Even then, the writing of what was to come was on the wall, plain to see for all who cared to look and apply the lessons of history.
What's left to do?
1. To the most extreme level possible, refuse to consume. Take the initiative and shut them down before they shut you down.
2. Adapt and learn to live with what you have and what you can produce yourself.
3. Identify, seek out and cooperate with like minded folks in your immediate neighborhood/community.
4. Dress warm for it's going to be a very long, very cold, very dark winter for this civilization.
"Sad folks, but look deep inside and tell me you are in fact doing everything you possibly can to change things and that the reasons you aren't is not this primal fear. I ain't proud of it, but at least I am honest."
bruce allen,
I don't think Daniel Quinn ever intended for us to be paralyzed by that primal fear. He was correct in his assessment (IMO) about food and how our system (culture) works against us. His message was for us to change our thinking and then help others change theirs.
It seems futile at times thinking of the seemingly insurmountable obstacles to change, yet, change (like shit) happens. Knowing that things will not always be as they are, helps me to realize that I can make some tiny difference. Nothing, neither good nor bad, happens without someone or something starting it. As DQ knows, we have to be the change agents.
Actually, I can see why few are Americans are aware. Just take a good look at what Adolph Hitler planned and accomplished in a short period of time. The German public, except for a very low percentage, was unaware of what Hitler had accompished. Those that spoke out, were quietly arrested and disappeared.
Now, Bush/Cheney are following Hitler's blueprint, whiile avoiding the tactical errors Hitler made. They control our 'free' press and that is the first major element of takng over the country. We all are aware of his next steps, which he has easily managed to initiate and the American public, by far is unaware of it, and so don't be stunned.
The people who blog here are a tiny minority, it's just like Germany in the 1930s. Few are aware, and many don't wish to believe it. When bush declares his National Emergency, the game will be over. You know, like Germany, many will fear the government, our King Bush, and will keep quiet, but many will not only still support him, they will love him and will inform on any who protest in any manner.
There are major differences between Hitler and Bush. Hitler was intelligent, and Bush actually believes, he is doing the work of God. Cheney doesn't care what Bush believes, as long as Geroge contiues to take his orders. Of course George will, but I see today that Cheney is having another heart problem. ____ I don't see how that could be possible though.
Know when to hold 'em -- Know when to fold 'em -- Know when to walk away -- Know when to RUN.
Many of us decided that the passion of so many Americans was reserved for SHOPPING and REAL ESTATE that those of us who cared about the kind of government we lived under could never hope for any improvement in the Standard American Psyche. So -- we RAN to Canada or Australia or wherever -- and at almost every dinner or gathering find OTHERS who have fled the mess that America has become. And if I do say so myself, these are usually the Best and the Brightest!
Dr. W in Toronto
In the late 60's early 70's with racial killings, Bobby Kennedy assination, Nixon, Kent State, meddling in South and Central America, and of course Vietnam, we thought is was all going down; that America would not survive.
Back then my "National Anthem" was Monster by Steppenwolf http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/mnnster.html
As valid today as it was then.
OldBadger: they are still hearing cries for death and vengeance from too many "centrist" Americans
We are all too familiar with the "centrist" American. That's the one who sins on Saturday night and asks God's forgiveness at Sunday services. The lefists do something similar: Plunder people/planet through Wall St. and then "give some back" through philanthropy. There are mountains of centrists in America. Even the chimp is a centrist - murders a million Iraqis and then rewards his cronies for their loyalty - that's his "giving back".
I've been outraged since my draft board tried to turn me into cannon fodder during the Viet Nam Fiasco. But most Americans just don't want to know how bad this government really is. A new standard of Insanity has been established, and Americans just want to watch Dance With The Stars. What America needs is a good Depression. I'm helping by NOT owning stock in corporate criminal activity, by NOT working for Exxon, Boing, Halliburton..., by NOT supporting the troops...They made the choice to become baby killers...they can change their minds. I watch the falling stock market and dwindling DOLLAR and cheer their freefall. A good Depression will get our NEW government rolling on social programs and not leave any spare change for cluster bombs, depleted uranium, phosphorus bombs, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, jet fighters, aircraft carriers, or cutsy little military-looking jackets for our president. Sanity may reign when CEOs and Senators have to stand in breadlines.