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Impeachment: If Not Now, When?
Lawmakers Need to Stand Up For The Constitution and Support Impeachment
On Nov. 6, Rep. Dennis Kucinich introduced articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney on the floor of the House of Representatives. For one shining moment the will of the majority of Americans and the promise of this nation's founders were truly represented.
The detailed charges were solemnly read from the House podium and televised on C-Span. House Democratic Leader Steny Hoyer made a motion to table the bill. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi lobbied hard for votes to table.
In a stunning turnaround, House Republicans changed strategy and voted decisively to prevent tabling the impeachment resolution.
Pelosi was defied by 85 Democratic members who voted against tabling the impeachment resolution. This includes John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and six committee members. The resolution was quickly voted back to the Judiciary Committee, where it is not resting quietly.
Judiciary Committee member Bob Wexler wrote, "The American people are served well with a legitimate and thorough impeachment inquiry. I will urge the Judiciary Committee to schedule impeachment hearings immediately and not let this issue languish as it has over the last six months. Only through hearings can we begin to correct the abuses of Dick Cheney and the Bush administration."
Impeachment is squarely on the table, and momentum is building. A year ago, almost no elected official breathed the word impeachment. Now impeachment has hit the House floor, and our electeds have gone on record. Millions of Americans are demanding an end to executive abuse of power.
After six years of state of emergency, the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, continual war and occupations, our Constitution is deeply in crisis. Americans are in danger of losing our system of government and civil rights if they do not roll back the Bush administration's assault on the rule of law.
Allowing Cheney and George W. Bush to finish their terms without being impeached means future presidents are free to copy their lawless behavior. Of course many important issues deserve the attention of Congress. But the Constitution is the foundation of our democracy, not just an issue. Without the Constitution, we have nothing.
Polls show that 74 percent of Democrats and the majority of American adults support impeaching Cheney. "Never in our history have the high crimes and misdemeanors been so flagrant, and the people of our country know it," writes local author Richard Behan.
Kucinich has targeted Cheney first, but investigations will implicate the president as well. For the first time in the history of the Gallup Poll, 50 percent of respondents say they "strongly disapprove" of the president. Richard Nixon had reached the previous high, 48 percent, just before an impeachment inquiry was launched in 1974. With these numbers, why aren't Bush and Cheney gone already?
The vice president is accused of:
- purposely manipulating intelligence to fabricate a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in order to justify an attack on Iraq;
- deceiving Congress about an alleged relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida;
- threatening aggression against the Republic of Iran, absent any real threat to the United States.
These violations of the Constitution and international treaty are just the tip of the iceberg. More articles of impeachment can be added at any time, and ample evidence to convict is on the public record. Representatives need to introduce articles regarding:
- illegal war, in violation of both international treaty and the Constitution;
- widespread domestic wiretapping in violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, a felony. Bush already has admitted to this;
- condoning torture in violation of federal laws and international treaties;
- rescinding habeas corpus, the cornerstone of Western law since the Magna Carta;
- obstruction of justice regarding U.S. attorney firings;
- subversion of the Constitution, abuse of signing statements and rescinding habeas corpus.
It's astounding that our representatives to Congress carry on with business as usual knowing that Americans lack habeas corpus and a working code of law. I want my representative, Dave Reichert, to block the doors of the House until habeas is restored as a basic human right in this nation!
In light of Bush's steady drumbeat for war with Iran, Kucinich said he will consider an impeachment resolution against him.
"Impeachment may well be the only remedy which remains to stop a war of aggression against Iran," he says.
"The most conservative principle of the Founding Fathers was distrust of unchecked power. Centuries of experience substantiated that absolute power corrupts absolutely. The Constitution embraced a separation of powers to keep the legislative, executive and judicial branches in equilibrium," Bruce Fein, a constitutional lawyer and associate deputy attorney general in the Reagan administration, said in the October 2006 edition of Washington Monthly.
If Congress were serious about oversight, there already would be dozens of bills and resolutions calling for impeachment of Bush and Cheney. The "Unitary Executive Theory" violates the principle of balance of power in the Constitution. The president cites this "unitary" power in hundreds of signing statements that say he can ignore laws passed by Congress.
The First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments are all now subject to the caprice of government officials. The Military Commissions Act allows U.S. citizens to be detained without due process if they are declared enemy combatants. Without our permission, this country has become an exporter of torture.
Congress has failed to provide oversight and exercise its authority to rein in a criminal administration. Only swift action on impeachment can redeem it now. The people have done the heavy work of bringing impeachment forward. Representatives need only ask if the allegations are serious enough to warrant investigations.
George Bush and Dick Cheney promote an imperial presidency. They assert that the executive is the most powerful branch of government, undermining the judiciary and Congress in violation of the Constitution's bedrock principle of shared power among three co-equal branches. This subverts the very nature of our system of government.
"This is an attempt by the president to have the final word on his own constitutional powers, which eliminates the checks and balances that keep the country a democracy. ... That's a big problem because that's essentially a dictatorship," Fein said.
Washington For Impeachment and Citizens to Impeach Bush and Cheney are working to inform the public, collect signatures to petitions, provide forums, and lobby representatives. Washington was the second state to sponsor a bill for impeachment in the state Legislature.
Washington State Democratic organizations have passed resolutions in 11 Democratic legislative districts, five counties and the Washington State Democratic Central Committee. Jay Inslee, D-Bainbridge Island, has received impeachment resolutions from almost every legislative district within his congressional district. When will he represent the will of his constituents and honor his oath to protect the Constitution?
The national movement to impeach is a non-partisan effort to restore the Constitution and the rule of law. People across the political spectrum can unite to preserve the Constitution and civil liberties given to us by the founders. Impeachment is the peaceful, orderly, constitutionally prescribed way to rid ourselves of a lawless administration.
The issue is not about removing Bush and Cheney as much as it is about preserving the Constitution and redeeming the office of the executive. The Constitution is the contract of governance between the people and the government. What happens when major portions of the contract are violated?
Congress has failed to call the president and vice president to account, so citizens must turn up the heat. Members of Congress who fail to demand investigations are covering for criminals. Every elected official has sworn an oath to "support and protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic." Anything less than impeachment and a full repudiation of the Bush administration's crimes and violations of the law is a dereliction of duty and a betrayal of the public trust.
If we want our democracy back, we need to roll up our sleeves and get to work to clean out the House.
Linda Boyd is director of Washington For Impeachment, www.washingtonforimpeachment.org. Citizens to Impeach Bush and Cheney, in Olympia: www.citizensimpeach.org
© 2007 The Seattle Post-Intelligencer
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Show AllIf not now, when? Under ALL of the following conditions:
1. The president cheats on his/her spouse;
2. The president is not a Republican
3. Congress is under Republican control
That's it. Nothing to see here. Obey the Leader and go back to sleep.
I have gone to the websites above am writing to ask them to throw their support behind D.K. I hope you will all do the same.
If impeachment does not happen at this time with this VP and pres, then our democracy is diminished, perhaps in the past tense.
Without impeachment the message to future presidents that they should never abuse the people and the constitution goes undelivered.
And our democracy goes away.
When Pelosi said: " IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE " she sold out the American people and the Constitution,so if Bush and Cheney go we get her? SUPPORT DENNIS THE MENACE.
President Bush and his Vice Dick Cheney did everything in their means what Americans always wanted (from invading a foreign country for oil to changing tax-laws to make Americans richer).
Democrats and Republicans are united when it comes to occupy a foreign land for oil.
In reality, Democrats will never impeach President Bush or his Vice.
Democrats and Republicans are basically same and similar people.
Impeachment is always on the table, according to our constitution. Pelosi, my Congresswoman, mystified me by taking it off the table. If not now, when? It seems to me something else is going on... something similar to J Edgar Hoover blackmailing people.
IMHO- The administration that is in power is part of a radical shift that intends TO demolish our system. All of the key players studied at Columbia under Strauss. A Machiavellian professor who believed in the philosopher king mentality. The unwashed masses are not fit to decide what our government says or does, in their opinions.
Starting under Reagan, the removal of social nets for the mentally ill, the poor, college grants for the underpriveledged, union power.
Facing us now is the destruction of the middle class. Removal of all market regulations, NAFTA, and the whispered rumors of the Amero, to me spell a modern twist on neo-serfdom for Canada, Mexico, and the US.
I think that many (perhaps not all) of our elected officials have been given glimpses into their new roles as our lords and nobles....and they like it.
After The Dark Ages, the Reniassance,and The Enlightenment eras ended the control of the monarchies and the church over our ancestors. The printing press allowed knowledge to become widespread and we crawled out from under their control. The dumbing down of our populations has made a comeback though. All of our movement toward a more learned and earth friendly populace is being removed and regressed.
TPTB would like a return, and hence the design for a NWO.
If we do not put a stop to this madness, I think we will become corporatized serfs for the multinationals, and whatever puppet government that will follow will be their middle management.
History is repeating itself on many levels. I am personally tired of endless negative historical feedback loops.
Since I do not want serfdom, I am thinking perhaps we need a neo-modern form of Robin of Locksley. Or maybe, a bunch of Peter Pans, whatever your choice is...pick a hero of fiction and run with it.
We've allowed them to write the story up until this point, and I don't know about you all, but I am not liking the way this particular one ends...it's time to shift the paradigm.
big bad bob, you do not want a military coup. that is what pakistan has. what we all want is THE RULE OF LAW by invoking THE CONSTITUTION. let our representatives see what we think on this subject. we are in the majority, which should be the place for determining what happens in a democracy.
what i found astounding is the blanket over news coverage of kucinich's efforts on nov. 6. i had to work the polls that day, so when i came home late that night i went online looking for news of the day's activities. nothing anywhere but here.
while we're looking for the rule of law, we also need to look for the publication of information. or are newspapers gone now?
or are newspapers gone now?
The newspapers are gone; there just haven't been any services yet.
The key words are, "according to our Constitution". That is the document which Bush stated was just a G-damn piece of paper, then has gone about proving he is correct on at least one of his comments.
The key to the mandatory impeachment process is not Pelosi, regardless what she said about it. The key is Conyers. He is the one who is in violation of the supreme law of our land and NO ONE is challenging him with the available legal process.
Magnificent piece, Ms. Boyd. You are a credit to our state of Washington and to our country. We need more patriots like you to speak out and take action. Bravo.
R.W. Behan
Yea Dennis Kucinich! I write Conyers daily, and my congressman too! TEXREY
Call, write, pound on the doors (Pelosi's, Conyers and the rest of the Judiciary COmmittee)... Our will be done...
militant liberal, in the conditions, you left off giving the prez sex, we need another blue dress, a Monica, no one has volunteered to do that nasty deed... sex in the oval office, that is the only way to get them impeached... bush and cheney orgy ... that should do the tricky dick... sells newspapers...
"...many important issues deserve the attention of Congress. But the Constitution is the foundation of our democracy, not just an issue."
Indeed, there was another shining moment courtesy of Dennis Kucinich, provided during the April 26 Democratic "debate" on MSNBC. When Brian Williams asked the field of candidates whether any of them support Kucinich's move to impeach Dick Cheney, no one raised so much as an eyebrow. In response, Dennis removed from his jacket a pocket copy of the U.S. Constitution and reaffirmed his oath of office to defend it, and to take Cheney to task for violating it.
That was the bowtie on what has become the giant cowpie of televised Democratic debates.
It is time that we define those who use their power to kill and destroy as defective human beings. That means anyone who sees war, torture, environmental degradation, as viable strategies, is unfit to hold office. Are you listening Barack? Hilary? Rudy? Mitt? george? etc.
http://www.healingmagic.org/articles/Setting.pdf
There is not the least doubt as to the treason and crimes against the peace. It is the DUTY of congress to impeach without delay. Do our senators and representatives prefer to be unindicted co-conspirators?
Pelosy and the "Bush-enabling" Democratic Party:
Impeach this war criminal Bush and the war criminal Cheney!!
What are waiting for?
History may well brand you as complicit. (in my mind you already are)
IMPEACH
IMPEACH
Rather curious that Ms Pelosi would "take impeachment" off the table and limit her legislative powers. By doing so she has undermined the Constitution and allowed a rogue executive branch to continue menacing the world. It makes one wonder if she was bribed or blackmailed. Did she jump, or was she pushed?
We have come a long way from the intent of our founding fathers.
In drafting the amendment, America's Founding Fathers affirmed the fundamental right of citizens to be informed about all sides of an issue without governmental interference. Thomas Jefferson even went so far as to write: If it were left to me to decide whether we should have a government without a free press or a free press without a government, I would prefer the latter. Belief in the importance of a press free of governmental control has remained constant throughout American history.
The Bush-Chaney devastating unilateralism and arrogance, instead of coalition building and diplomacy, has resulted in the total loss of America's credibility worldwide. The reckless and unjust unilateral action based on deception has caused the death of more than a million Iraqis, four million refugees and has created millions of new enemies.
The death and the destruction in Afghanistan and Iraq, in turn have been an absolute boom for the extremist in their recruitment.
There are two reasons why impeachment is so important and necessary; first to erase and remove all remnant of usurpation and transfer of power from the judiciary and legislative branches to the executive. This should stop the possibility of the continued excesses of power by future administrations. The founding fathers designed impeachment to counter an out of control executive branch.
Secondly, Mr. Cheney, the brain behind the throne, who has systematically undermined our constitution, ignored our laws and seriously damaged our democracy, must be held accountable. His reckless lies, half truths and deception have taken us to an unjust and unnecessary war that has caused the death of 3866 Americans, drained our treasury and has brought our economy to the brink of bankruptcy.
I see Ms. Pelosi's statement about keeping impeachment off the table as prophetic:
Impeachment isn't tabled - it's before the Judiciary Committee.
Still, most of the author's suggested additions to the articles of impeachment are not things that the Vice President is legally responsible for. To add them as legitimate articles of impeachment, they would have to be laid at the President's doorstep.
Throw the whole administration out and let Al Gore take over for the remaining term .
CMEDWARDS. You say MOST of the articles of impeachment are not things the Vice President is responsible for. Well, if he took the resposiblity upon himself, he's responsible.
BTW, Which of the charges do you feel he is NOT repnsible for, and which do you believe he IS, as you state __ MOST? ___If he has committed any of them, he should not be, __ he MUST be impeached, according to our law of the land, which is NOT negotiable without a vote of OUR congress. I will agree, the President is also in the same house. If one lives in a shit house, ___ they smell like shit.
I doubt that impeachment will even go forward at this stage of the game. Dems have made it clear that it's "off the table", no matter what anybody else says. No one's got the cojones to go forward with it, because we all remember the faux-impeachment of Clinton because he got it on with an intern. So, like, "whoop-de-freakin'-do!", no one died. So he was unfaithful to his wife. So what else is new? We all know that Kennedy wasn't exactly a saint when it came to matters of women. OK, maybe he was more discreet about it than Clinton, but still, many Presidents have had extra-marital affairs while in office and no one said word one about it.
We all know what was up with that ridiculous impeachment of Clinton - the Republicans had just taken over Congress for the first time in decades and were "feeling their oats" and decided to show some muscle and go on a witch hunt as the first plank in their planned "permanent Republican Majority" plan. Don't think Karl Rove had something to do with that? Think again - what's he been doing all along but playing dirty tricks, right? I sense that this was his first foray into subterfuge on a national level. His fingerprints are all over that one.
So, see, Dems know now that it pretty much became apparent what a joke the impeachment of Clinton was, but they also know how badly it cost the Republicans in the short term. Gingrich fell from power as did those around him, and politicos all ran scared as a result knowing that they could be next. Everyone waited for the other shoe to drop, and it did with the stolen election of 2000 that put Bush in power. And Bush is no Republican, either. He's some kind of weird radical extremist that has even *real* Republicans seeing red for his profligate spending and expansion of the government, which are as anti-conservative as you can get.
What this all boils down to is this: the use of impeachment as a corrective tool was forever ruined by the Clinton debacle. It's now seen by most politicos as a means of exercising some kind of vendetta against the opposition, a partisan witch hunt, if you will. You can blame Gingrich & Co. for their subversion of that as a real corrective tool to restore balance to the three branches of government: executive, legislative and judicial. At no time did Clinton overstep his powers and declare himself to be a unitary president like Bush has. At no time did Clinton ever practically declare himself above the law and an imperial ruler. Those are reasons for impeachment, but no one wants to admit that there are real Constitutional reasons for using it to correct the abuses of power that we are seeing now. Rather, people have grown gun-shy of it for fear of appearing too much like Gingrich & Co. and using it to consolidate power for one political party.
So, kiss any chances of impeachment goodbye. Not gonna happen, no matter how much so many of us want it. We can scream at our legislators until we're blue in the face, but they're Beltway insiders and not given to taking risky measures like impeaching the administration this late in the game. They're going to think of nothing else but their own re-election campaigns, and that, my friends, is the sad reality of it all. They don't want to risk losing their cushy seats in the Senate or Congress and all the perks that go along with it. They don't represent you and I. They represent the special interests, the corporations, Big Money, whoever can buy influence, and most of us don't have the bucks to buy it and grease a few palms along the way.
Look how long we've all called for impeachment. Think they're going to do it NOW, this close to the end of the BushCo reign? Nonsense. If they were going to do it at all, they'd've done so already. The list of crimes that this administration has committed is longer than my arm. And that's just in the first term! The second term crimes list is probably longer than my height. No, impeachment is something we can all dream about happening, but all of us here know darn well that there's no one with enough courage to give it the big push and make it happen sooner rather than later. The longer they wait, the less likely it's bound to happen. So....forget it. And count down the days on your calendars until 1/20/09 and hope that Kucinich wins the election, but I'm not counting on it. The MainStream Media has already made up its collective minds that it's going to be yet another Clinton, continuing the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton dynasty. And if Hillary somehow wins two terms, that will mean 28 years of rule by two families in the White House. That's just wrong.
Let's hope I'm wrong about all this, but I'm also a hardened realist who knows how things work. The People don't elect the President. The media and the Electoral College elect a President. That's no democracy. If we'd had real Democracy, Gore would have been inaugurated President in 2000 instead of the Supreme Court making the decision who won it, and that's illegal anyway, because it's not within their purview to decide such things. So we basically have an administration that was illegal from the get-go and has remained so ever since. But no one's willing to take corrective measures to restore our Constitution. Meaning, right now, we're not a true democracy. We're not a country of the people, by the people, for the people, and haven't been for some time now. It's all just so sad.
militantliberal___You have it exactly right, the conditions for impeachment are that you have some viscous rabid maddog Repubs controlling Congress and a Dem president who fooled around a bit. Nothing else will work for impeachment to take place. Forget the Constitution, it has been nullified by these criminals in office, and is no longer relevant. There is plenty of immunity and pardons to go around anyway, so we can relax and forget about it.
if this administration is not impeach,
the constitution has been amended and no other president can be impeach in the future
Willybilly,
Sadly, I agree with your words.
I have heard the argument that "we don't really know what the intent was of the Founding Fathers," or that the Constitution is "unclear" as to how to respond to the actions of a power-hungry president.
BULLSHIT.
Did Bush's pardoning of one of his staff (in order to protect himself) merit impeachment? Here is a quote from Federalist Paper #69 ( http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa69.htm ) positing a what-if scenario - how an overly empowered state governor could use pardons to protect his own conspiracy versus how a President SHOULD be prevented from doing so:
All conspiracies and plots against the government, which have not been matured into actual treason, MAY BE SCREENED FROM PUNISHMENT of every kind, by the interposition of the prerogative of PARDONING. If a governor of New York, therefore, should be at the head of any such conspiracy, until the design had been ripened into actual hostility he could insure his accomplices and adherents an entire impunity. A President of the Union, on the other hand, though he may EVEN PARDON TREASON, when prosecuted in the ordinary course of law, could shelter no offender, in any degree, from the effects of impeachment and conviction. Would not the prospect of a total indemnity for all the preliminary steps be a greater temptation to undertake and persevere in an enterprise against the public liberty...
Impeachment is the remedy - make that the ultimate safety valve - to unchecked executive power. The exact situation that W and Cheney have created was foreseen over two hundred years ago. That is why impeachment is written directly into the Constitution. A corrupt and/or power hungry President, destructive battles between political parties ("factions"), gradual suspension of liberties during time of war, excess influence by wealthy interests - all these scenarios and more were anticipated (see Federalist Papers #10, 48, 51, etc). For these reasons, our Founding Fathers also put in place the checks and balances as well as ultimate remedies to all the problems we now face.
But our Democrats lack the courage to do what is needed. I have gone past anger and depression for what has happened to our country. I am heartbroken.
Pardon my ignorance. I thought Conyers was pushing for impeachment too. What did he do wrong?
The impeachment process will go as far as is necessary to get re-elected, not one bit farther. So on the one hand it will do no good to call Congress and appeal to their duty, their oath, or their sense of justice. It WILL help if you can put them at fear of losing an election. I suggest that those who make contributions withhold them until their congress person actively supports impeachment.
The bastards are used to bribes and extortion.
We must continue to call for impeachment. Who among the American people wants an attack on Iran, now that most of us want to be out of Iraq? Only that mad, dwindling group of crazies in the White House. Yet we read that the military is beefing up fuel supplies in the Gulf - for what?
On your head, Nancy Pelosi, if further conflagration happens. You could have prevented it; we asked you to. IMPEACH!
We must do our duty as citizens,we must force our representitives through Jeffersons manual,to honor thier oath to the country and us,thier true constituents.We cannot be complacent and be complicit by inaction!This is the travesty our"leaders"are guilty of!
I agree with Impeach for Peace .org ,that if we want to have a democracy we have to fight tooth and nail... and dollarRep for it.Visit this site to download forms and petitions to force your representitive to respond.Threaten him or her with impeachment,for violation of oath.
Linda has it correct. Bush and Cheney are domestic enemies of the Constitution. And as such, Congress must impeach them.
Let's remember the REAL reason Clinton was impeached. He committed perjury.
At his deposition: "That all depends on what the meaning of is is."
He didn't get the name "Slick Willie" for nothing!!
Check out the YouTube of him telling an audience member to, "Shut up!" when the person asked him a question about 9/11 being an "inside job". Then he said, "How DARE you?!"
Now here we go with Jane Harman's "Thought Crimes" legislation that SAILED through the House and is now in the Senate. They will probably pass it this week and Bush will sign it into law.
Remember Ari Fleischer the day after 9/11 at the press conference? "You'd better watch what you say and watch what you do."
Well, that "Big Brother" nightmare is about to become our collective nightmare.
With Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr. and Hillary, someone a few posts back mentioned we will have a dynasty.
And slick Willie and George Sr. are joined at the hip.
Something here stinks to high Heaven.
In the meantime I'm still waiting for Commondreams to follow through on the idea of typing in your zip and finding a coffee shop nearby for Commondreamers to go commiserate.
The sound of crickets.........
Guess they want to keep us in our pajamas and typing to each other.
Like night and day- To think of the mud the Repugs dragged Bill Clinton through for getting a blow job from little miss chubby cheeks...something Hillery prolly wouldn't do for him anyway.
I've written to Pelosi, Conyers, Hoyer, Emmanuel, my own Congressmen, and others, that an avalanche of Presidential pardons will soon derail further investigations and end hopes of accountability. Since only impeachment is immune to such pardons, IMPEACH NOW, or forever admit complicity in subversion of the Constitution and profiteers' war-crimes. The evidence is vast and multi-leveled, but could be an order of magnitude greater if not for the contempt of Congressional subpoenas, "lost" e-mails, and all-round stonewalling, impeachable themselves! Other important legislation, even if heroic efforts get a veto-proof vote, are subject to yet another un-Constitutional signing statement! Is Congress afraid of this administration? Justifiably, considering what happened to Max Cleland, Cynthia McKinney, Tom Daschle, the Governor of Alabama, and the CEO of Qwest (and perhaps Paul Wellstone and the anthrax attacks), but the nation, the Constitution, and the world need us to live up to being the "home of the brave." Please honor the oath to defend the Constitution.
So much Lighted, guided energy and sense, issuing from the man Kucinich.
So much of what he says is very 'right', and sane and sound.
Against him stand the united forces of darkness: the 'Puss-edential' team of depraved harlots and brigands, (which include the dire mess media).
Who will win out, and how? -The demented 'Goliath', ~ or a heroic 'David'?
Will America rise to the occasion, and get shot of the nest of scorpions at the helm? or will they again succumb to the evil will of the ruinous muck at the top?
America stands at a crossroads; the world holds it's breath, waiting and hoping that she will choose more wisely this time round.
The game is not lost, hope is not lost, and the fight between darkness and Light is very far from over.
Yes, there are many things we cannot easily shift and fix overnight, but what *we* have, that the Gray House villains don't, -is humanity's *massed intent* on our side, - which at root is a wish to live in peaceful co-existence with our fellow beings.
That, (although it is often painted differently by the media for their own dark ends) is the basic wish of the majority of the people alive on this planet: - their overwhelming wish is to be rid of all these ridiculous wars...
We could take comfort and hope from that massed intent?
We can usefully try to ensure that we never let up for a moment in our concerted WILL to see Light win out over the present crazed hell-hounds who have (temporarily) gained access to power in America.
"Every dog has it's day" ... but soon those dogs will be gone.
~ It's up to each of us to never give up the fight to ensure DK (and his like) are soon in the seats of power, putting things back as they should be.
We can make it happen.
Believe it ... and let's *make* it happen, using ALL the means available to us!
Yakpsyche - "Pardon my ignorance. I thought Conyers was pushing for impeachment too. What did he do wrong?"
Yak, go to archives at top of screen, click and enter the following article title in the search window:
Published on Tuesday, July 24,2007 by Reuters
Peace Activist Cindy Sheehan Arrested at Congress
by Thomas Ferraro
Besides which, even if by some miracle it was decided that impeachment will go forward, it will take the better part of a year - or more - before it could even begin to proceed, by which time a new administration will either have been elected or inaugurated, rendering the entire impeachment process moot.
So, another reason it's not going to happen now. Too late. They dithered too long and blew it for all of us. Had they begun working on this a year ago after mid-term elections, we might have stood a chance of seeing these people impeached, but now it's too late. The best we can hope for is some kind of reckoning after they've all retired to their ranchettes, and by then, they'll be immune to prosecution anyway.
That, friends, is the sad reality of this whole affair. And that's why no impeachments will be forthcoming, as much as we'd all like to see it happen. Blame Dems for sitting on their hands and not working harder to bring allies from across the aisle to bolster their numbers and assure a better chance of succeeding in beginning the process of impeachment.
In short, too late. Too late. What a crying shame. Future administrations will take this as permission to become unitary executives and to use signing statements to break the law and subvert the Constitution and the will of the people. It will take impeaching future administrations to restore the Constitution. BushCo won't suffer the ignomany of being hauled before an impeachment hearing. They know this, and they know that they have set the stage for a possible impeachment of a future Democratic administration who will want to use the same tools that BushCo put in place.
And oh, they just can't wait to see the day that it happens to reclaim their power. They'll all point and say, "Told you so! You want us back because these guys screwed up!" And people will be stupid enough to vote these people back into office again, because they'll make sure that there's some calamity that assures their return to power and they'll use fear like a hammer to say, "See, Democrats are soft on terrorism! We'll protect you, just you wait and see!"
And of course, they'll find a way to maneuver themselves back into power again. They aren't going to go away THAT easily, trust me. They may make it look like they're all retiring to their ranchettes, but they'll be busy crafting their return somehow. Remember, K Street still exists. Sure, they got rid of DeLay and Abramoff, but don't count them out yet. Grover Nordquist is still out there with his devious power-mad schemes. Be afraid, be very afraid of Nordquist. This is the guy, after all, who wanted to reduce the government to the size of where he could drown it in the bathtub, and that speaks volumes. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. He's the one you all should be afraid of. I suspect that he and Rove are busy plotting something evil and devious.
Scumbags, all.
Well, WILLY BILL and SALLY UU KENT have sure explained it like it is.
Who asked about Conyers and what has he done wrong? Conyers is the worst of them all, he alone has the power to put the impeachment bill on the floor for a Congressional vote and he illegally refuses to do it. He's the traior Cindy handed the petitions to and was arrested for legally doing the duty we should all be doing.
You are not going to protect the Constitution setting behind your computer. Start the Million Patriot March and take your country back before the supreme court takes your gun rights away.
impeachment proceedings will begin in the spring ..but wont conclude before they are out of office...just a guess
"In a stunning turnaround, House Republicans changed strategy and voted decisively to prevent tabling the impeachment resolution."
This is the silliest article I've ever read on Common Dreams. What kind of drugs is the author on? The vote not to table was a parliamentary trick to make sure that it would never again meet the public eye. The Democrats are in collusion with their corporate sponsors to make sure that impeachment is never discussed in Congress because it would open too many cans of worms on both sides of the floor.
Great posts All,
I especially liked SallyUUKent's clear language and agree that this whole thing (impeachment) is just to keep us pacified until the Fortune 500 can select their next crop of political puppets. D.K. would not be permitted to embarrass Polosi, the speaker, if he were not a plant to appease us. He works for the Democrats. The Dems know we the people are pissed. D.K. is a Red Herring, imho, and he will not succeed in impeachment unless the DemoCon party (which is the same thing as the Fortune 500,) decides they will allow this administration to be sacrificed, in order to maintain control OF US.
The Dems are pumping you up with False Hope just like they did the last time. Fool me once... shame on you; Fool me twice... shame on all of us.
Maybe they're right after all. Maybe the unwashed masses aren't smart enough to vote. We are so easily fooled by some angry words coming out of Polosi's mouth: "Bush is going to Pay!" she frothed. Then, "impeachment was off the table" (so was curbing war spending.) To be fooled again by these agents of Globalmutinational monsters.....
The definition of insanity (and believe me, Washington is making us all insane) is to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Why do we keep voting for the corporate parties? We know our problems in the USA run deeper than political corruption. We have corporate contagion at every level in life. They own us everywhere we go. At work. Shopping. Banking. Motoring. Getting our news. Paying our taxes. Everywhere you go, there's the stink of the long arm of monopolistic robber barons with their oligopoly octopus arms in the cookie jar.
My fellow railroad victims, I fear we are back in the 1800's under the merciless whip of the Big Four (the infamous J.P. Morgan and his robber baron henchmen.)
The question is: if impeachment fails, what are you going to do about it?
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i believe a huge part of the american population will suddenly go blind when they are brounght forth from darkness and forced to look upon the bright light of freedom!
So is it the case that with his first assault on the law he wiretapped all the opposition members and whenever he found something usable he, used it to blackmail that member?
Now would be good and make them pay restitution for war profiteering and raiding the U.S. Treasury and the American people. Also they should do community service for the poor, aged, and children with no healthcare that have survived their brutal policies.
Your comments strike me as conspiracy theory out of control. DK, as you refer to Kucinich, is not a plant. He is the only Democrat in Congress who has the courage to formally propose impeachment. Your assertion that he is part of some Democratic cabal is absurd. Most of his positions run counter to those of the Democratic establishment. He didn't need Pelosi's permission to introduce articles. He did that solo. I'm sure she actually quite peeved he's done so. He is fighting within the only party of a two party system that is not a criminal organization. Cindy Sheehan is looking to contest Pelosi's seat because she too realizes that the only way to fight the Democratic status quo is from within.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. – Article II, Section 4
Impeachment is off the table because we are not the constituents of the Democratic Party. Their real constituents are big corporation, big money, military industrial complex and the Israeli lobby.
Do you really think the above groups want Bush impeached? No? Then stop lamenting.
I can't believe that lying about consentual sex with another adult is grounds for impeachment and lying about the reasons we went to war and lying about outing a CIA covert op is just fine. This is just insane. We are truly a fascist country if they get away with this. IMPEACH!!
I am mystified why no one seems to understand that Nancy Pelosi is in a terrible place to be advocating for impeachment. If both Bush and Cheney are impeached and forced to leave office, Pelosi would be elevated to the Presidency. If Pelosi breathed one word in favor of impeachment, the Republicans would howl that she was moving to take over the country through the back door, any impeachment proceedings would become hopelessly gridlocked, and a possible backlash would ensue. In my opinion, she has acted absolutely appropriately to this point.
We, the people, need to FORCE impeachment proceedings by raising the loudest ruckus seen in this country since the 60's. We need to make this such a cause celebre that Congress will have to conduct hearings and even Republicans will understand that Pelosi is not leading the charge, but merely bending to the majority. We're not there yet, folks, and blaming Pelosi for this situation is a terrible waste of energy. Get out in the streets!