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Shocked in Death, Shocked in Life: More Than a Taser Story
The world saw a video last week of Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers using a Taser against a Polish man in the Vancouver International Airport in October. The man, Robert Dziekanski, died soon after the attack. In recent days, more details have come out about him. It turns out that the 40-year-old didn't just die after being shocked -- his life was marked by shock as well.
Dziekanski was a young adult in 1989, when Poland began a grand experiment called "shock therapy" for the nation. The promise was that if the communist country accepted a series of brutal economic measures, the reward would be a "normal European country" like France or Germany. The pain would be short, the reward great.
So Poland's government eliminated price controls overnight, slashed subsidies, privatized industries. But for young workers such as Dziekanski, "normal" never arrived. Today, roughly 40% of young Polish workers are unemployed. Dziekanski was among them. He had worked as a typesetter and a miner, but for the last few years, he had been unemployed and had had run-ins with the law.
Like so many Poles of his generation, Dziekanski went looking for work in one of those "normal" countries that Poland was supposed to become but never did. Two million Poles have joined this mass exodus during the last three years alone. Dziekanski's cohorts have gone to work as bartenders in London, doormen in Dublin, plumbers in France. Last month, he chose to follow his mother to British Columbia, Canada, which is in a pre-Olympics construction boom.
"After seven years of waiting, [Dziekanski] arrived to his utopia, Vancouver," said the Polish consul general, Maciej Krych. "Ten hours later, he was dead."
Much of the outrage sparked by the video, which was made by another passenger at the airport, has focused on the controversial use of Tasers, already implicated in 17 deaths in Canada and many more in the United States.
But what happened in Vancouver was about more than a weapon. It was also about an increasingly brutal side of the global economy -- about the reality that many victims of various forms of economic "shock therapy" face at our borders.
Rapid economic transformations like Poland's have created enormous wealth -- in new investment opportunities; currency trading; in leaner, meaner companies able to comb the globe for the cheapest location to manufacture. But from Mexico to China to Poland, they also have created tens of millions of discarded people, the people who lose their jobs when factories close or lose their land when export zones open.
Understandably, many of these people often choose to move: from countryside to city, from country to country. As Dziekanski appeared to be doing, they go in search of that elusive "normal."
But there isn't enough normal to go around, or so we are told. And so, as migrants move, they are often met with other shocks. A treacherous razor fence protecting Spain's North Africa enclaves, or a Taser gun on the U.S.-Mexican border. Canada, which used to be known around the world for its openness to refugees, is militarizing its borders, with lines between immigrant and terrorist blurring fast.
Dziekanski's inhuman treatment at the hands of the Canadian police must be seen in this context. The police were called when Dziekanski, lost and disoriented, began shouting in Polish, at one point throwing a chair. Faced with a foreigner like Dziekanski, who spoke no English, why talk when you can shock? It strikes me that the same brutal, short-cut logic guided Poland's economic transition to capitalism: Why take the gradual route, which required debate and consent, when "shock therapy" promised an instant, if painful, cure?
I realize that I am talking about very different kinds of shocks here, but they do interconnect in a cycle I call "the shock doctrine." First comes the shock of a national crisis, making countries desperate for any cure and willing to sacrifice democracy in the process. In Poland in 1989, that first shock was the sudden end of communism and the economic meltdown. Then comes the economic shock therapy, the undemocratic process pushed through in the window of crisis that jolts an economy into growth but blasts so many people out of the picture.
Then, in far too many cases, there is the third shock, the one that disciplines and deals with the discarded people: the desperate, the migrants, those driven mad by the system.
Each shock has the potential to kill, some more suddenly than others.
Naomi Klein is the author of many books, including her most recent, The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, which will be published in September. Visit Naomi's website at www.naomiklein.org, or to learn more about her new book, visit www.shockdoctrine.com .
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Show AllYou know, I dont really see a connection between police tasers and shock doctrine.
They werent using tasers to try and make economic exploitation--they were just abusing their authority, and technology.
Some cops are sadists.
i've figured out the shock doctrine. I'll start this thread with - BOOO! Or, BOOM, like Galen used to say when he was posting.
until he scared himself or got frutstrated or wherever you are Galen.
remaining posts, please respond accordingly. You will anyway even if you skim this over or think it's nonsense.
Let's try and adapt to their barking mean dogs. It's almost adapt or die time, that'll shock you.
"But there isn't enough normal to go around, or so we are told"
got that right! Thanks Naomi for a thought provoking, well written piece...
Bigger shocks to come.
one of the point's being. Let's turn the tables on fear. What have we got to lose.
As Ms. Klein brilliantly explains in "The Shock Doctrine," Friedman-style fascism, such as that forced on Poland, empowers the powerful predators by preventing the weak and vulnerable and those working for the commons from joining together to create, or significantly influence, governments to protect them or the commons. Though Friedman's economic theories do not explicitly advocate this, what happens in practice in Friedman-style economies is that the powerful predators join together to more fully dominate and exploit the weak and vulnerable, and rob from the commons, and there is no limit to the cruelty or depravity or the greed.
I can recall the enthusiasm so many progressive people had for the Polish Solidarity movement, led by the shipyard union of Gdansk, that was instrumental in bringing down the socialist government. Those shipyards were among the first casualties of Poland's version of shock therapy. Many thanks for another brilliant article, Ms. Klein.
Look at what economic shock therapy did for Russian democracy. The operation was a success but the patient died.
IMF/WTO/World Bank = Sugar, Rum, & Slaves. No Middle Class anywhere to be seen. It was the same 3 centuries ago. It is the same now.
Oligarchies always create plantation slave societies. Corporations are always backed by military force. Back then it was the Hudson's Bay Co. & the British East India Co. backed by the British Navy & the Royal Cumbrians. Now its the Multinationals, the 7th Fleet, & the Screaming Eagles.
It's the Oligarchy/Plutocracy/Aristocracy - neighbor. They always create plantation slave societies. We can cut around the edges or we can cut out the diseased core.
The Roosevelt Legacy of taxation, corporate regulation, a meaningful minimum wage, support for unions, and a real social safety net - put the Oligarchy on a LEASH. They were not FREE to rape pillage and burn our country to the ground. As evidence these words are TRUE:
After 30 years these policies produced by the mid-60's the greatest distribution of wealth ever seen in the history of our species, and 35% unionization of the private sector.
The end of poverty in this country was in sight. Lifetime stable employment was on the horizon. A house was not a 'get rich scheme', it was a place to live and raise your family. And yeah, the richfilth class was nearly moribund. Period . Caput. On their way to the trash heap of history along with the Hapsburgs, the Romanoffs, & the Hohenzollerns.
We had a choice then. We have the same choice now. We can make a place for everyone at the table and reject war and conquest as a way of life - or we get more of what we've got right now: Sugar, Rum, & Slaves. Breeds monsters.
Peace.
That's what I'm talking about Luckylefty!
The wealthy need poverty or they'd have nothing whatsoever to compare themselves favorably with. They struggle enough with that concept already as it is.
Canada, which used to be known around the world for its openness to refugees, is militarizing its borders, with lines between immigrant and terrorist blurring fast.
You ain't seen nuthin' yet. As usual, Canada's ruling class thinks it sees both the opportunity for preserving and expanding its "special relationship" with the U.S. and the need for concessions of what little Canadian sovereignty remains in order to do so. And, also as usual, they're wrong.
The movements toward a so-called "North American Union" will only extend the U.S. "security border" to surround the entire continent. It will do nothing to ensure U.S. conformity to any consensus on standards of behavior in any other respect. The U.S. non-response to trade rulings under NAFTA and other such arrangements should have made that abundantly clear long ago. But Canucks will never learn. They are eternal patsies for imperial manipulation.
What a load of gloomy crap.
Poland is not an oligarchy, but a reasonably functioning democracy, with a voter turnout, which shuld make many other democracies, especially the US, envious. Nor is it a laissez-faire extravaganza, but a society with a costly and extensive "safety net" allowing security for its more vulnerable sections of society to an extent unimaginable in Naomi's homeland. It is also a much gentler society than the alleged "promised land" on the other side of the Atlantic; no taser-toting stormtroopers in aiport waiting rooms, or gun-toting cops in Elementary School playgrounds.
What undermines this article's credibility by 100% is the claim that these kind of situations (Poles seeking refuge from the horror of life in Poland) arrise from 40% unemployment in Poland. Unemployment in Poland is just over 10% at the latest count; pay, life expectancy, and standards of living are rising rapidly, and approaching EU norms. Stereotypes, rooted in some weird mind sets, are what so often define Poland in people's minds. Presented by somebody as admirable as Ms Klein they have extra sting.
NAOMI is a fabulous writer because she does her homework/research and yet brings a vision to her work that connects the dots few know how to connect. Indeed there is a connection between the cruel sadism of shocking a nation's economy to heel like an unruly dog, and then going on to shock individual citizens who step out of line. These behaviors hardly constitute any sociological non sequitur! But nothing in nature long lines up. Nature abhors a straight line... all things circle, come full circle, and where possible undulate in new mating patterns to bring forth the next design. Make love to support spiritual evolution! The world may be depending on you (*LOL)
I read that Robert Dziekanski's mother worked two 'nickle and dime' jobs for years to save enough to bring her son to her.
This story would make a prize winning novel for those with enough anti-depressant to read it.
Yeah, circles! you know it already though. How to get the message over the etherwaves without causing an unruly ruckus?
What that rukus would entail, I have very little idea because I can't see out there I only read.
Maybe next week, shock shock. Right through your screens. Into your hearts.
kelmer, what Naomi Klein says is that the first two shocks create a scarcity of normal and more people seeking "normal" than can find it. When something is deemed scarce, then one's control over this scarce resource becomes more violent. Naomi Klein could be using people fighting over a bottle of water (because of man-made droughts) rather than the scarce resource of being a Canadian citizen.
The purpose of all three shocks are to dehumanize humans in the name of profit.
Naomi Klein says: (SHOCK ONE)First comes the shock of a national crisis, making countries desperate for any cure and willing to sacrifice democracy in the process. In Poland in 1989, that first shock was the sudden end of communism and the economic meltdown.
(SHOCK TWO) Then comes the economic shock therapy, the undemocratic process pushed through in the window of crisis that jolts an economy into growth but blasts so many people out of the picture.
(SHOCK THREE) Then, in far too many cases, there is the third shock, the one that disciplines and deals with the discarded people: the desperate, the migrants, those driven mad by the system.
The first two shocks create discarded people, and the third one deals harshly with the phenomenon that the first two create. There is nothing really that I can add to what Naomi Klein says.
The shock doctrine is about stripping away the average person's control over their own lives.
ryski, what is "reasonably functional" about high unemployment?
What happens when either people stop being sickened or there is no longer a need to listen to the people because government no longer matters?
BTW - The National is going to have a special on Tasers next week. If you have a question to summit?
Robert Dziekanski
http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/video/crimejustice/a_deadly_landing.html
ryski 1:34 pm post: I guess the group wants to get on the bandwagon of "pigs are the enemy of the people". If you are correct then Naomi Klein has been looking at the wrong data.
This guy was in an airport throwing chairs-what the hell are the police supposed to do, let him injure some innocent bystander? The police like all the rest of us don't want to have chair brought down on their head so they tassered the guy. Maybe there were other facts we don't know, maybe they were tipped off by interpose that a potential criminal was headed their way, remember-he had had run-ins with the law and We don't know how serious these run-ins were.
Barn Burner
I in no way support the police action in this incident. It was an attrocious incident, made worse by the way it appears symptomatic of of current-day solutions to political and social issues.
I was objecting to the simplistic and uninformed stereotypes Naomi Klein was using about Poland.
geoff29
I did not say that there was anything reasonably functional about high unemployment. I did say that Poland was a reasonably functioning democracy |(the way that the US, for example, is not).
ryski,
Here in Pittsburgh, we have experienced a considerable wave of Russian and eastern european immigrants - the biggest since the 1920's, many of them working in the low-wage jobs. What is bringing them here?
PJD,
Citizens of the new EU accession states (exept for Romania and Bulgaria) have easy access to the work market in most other EU states. I know of no statistics concerning Polish immigrants in Pittsburg, but I do hear that the US as a whole is not as attractive a destination for immigrants from Central and Eastern Europe as for example the UK, Eire, Sweden, or even Spain is, what with the weak $, distance, social climate, and generally the bad image that the US has these days. Pehaps Canada is more attractive.
Besides, the tide has turned these days. These were never immigrants in the true sense. Mosttly these were young, thrill seeking kids, the first generation in a long time, who were given the freedom to travel anywhere. They were lured by the glamorous image of foreign lands, but often discovered that these places did not live up to their expectations.
What you refer to as Russian and East European immigrants exist in a somewhat different category, and come from different economic and social conditions.
The Polish have been in Canada for quite a while - though their numbers are not as big as the Ukranians (how many other groups warrant two pavilions for Folklorama?):
Click on "Warsaw-Poland Pavilion" (at bottom):
http://www.folklorama.ca/folklorama_pavillions_week.php?Week=2
Click on "Krakow-Poland Pavilion":
http://www.folklorama.ca/folklorama_pavillions_week.php?Week=1
That said, I have heard those of Polish or Ukranian ancestry who have been in Canada for generations complain about the new arrivals from Poland and the Ukraine. Xenophobia (which the Harper government is presently trying to exploit for votes) is present even among those deemed to share similar origins.
Ryski says: I was objecting to the simplistic and uninformed stereotypes Naomi Klein was using about Poland.
Naomi Klein says: Faced with a foreigner like Dziekanski, who spoke no English, why talk when you can shock?
I think, if anything, Naomi Klein is satirizing the Xenophobic mindset. The RCMP were told that the guy could speak no english prior to contact, but they did not care. They gave the guy a direct order in english which he did not understand and then used it as an excuse to taser him.
Traditionally, the NDP, a party which both Naomi Klein's father-in-law and grandfather-in-law were leaders of, is against discrimination and racism of any sort.
No one is completely free of ethnic or racial bias or misconceptions, but they all try their best to be so. Contrast that with the Conservatives who try to exploit racism while purporting not to be racist.
Barn burner,
Recall taht he was trapped in the customs area for 10 hours after his mother was prevented from entering where he was an was forces to go back home.
This apparently left Dziekansk in a bizarre twilight-zone scenario where he spoke no English and had no money or phone number or other contact for assistance. So he apparently wasn't able to, or was unaware that he could have called the Polish consulate or something. Meanwhile, in spite of being an an "international" ariport, he could find nobody willing to even attempt to communicate with him, or help in any way. Apparently, for 10 houes straight, he was being snubbed by everyone he attmpted to get help from, even customs or airline people, and no one even attempted to find out what language he spoke so help could be found. The video even showed this - where everyone ignorantly thought he was speaking Russian ("all those slavs look and sound the same")
Please, put yourself in this guy's shoes! Think of how trapped YOU would have felt after 10 hours, and a very real fear of being permanantly trapped in this bizarre situation. With apparently no money or ticket home, fantsies of starving right ther in the airport were probably going through his head. I would have probably flipped out and freaked out and started throwing things too...
I can certainly imagine such a situation happening in a midwesterm airport here in the US, but I thought Canadians were better than this.
Dear ryski, Your above response to PJD is very interesting. Could you please briefly describe the system of health care and old age pensions, etc, in today's Poland, if you have a moment? Is is said that many in the former East Germany have a certain regret for certain things (and not all) that have been lost since the fall of socialism and I wonder if there is any such sentiment in Poland?
Excellent article! I have read Klein's "The Shock Doctrine" and know exactly where she's coming from in relating her article to the book. I highly recommend "The Shock Doctrine" to anyone who is trying to better understand what has been taking place in the world over the past five decades or so. Most people will read about the gentleman being tasered and think, "What a pity that the man acting crazy was tasered and killed," then move on to the next story and give it little thought. However, what took place in Canada is happening right here in the U.S. far too much, and there is a disturbing mindset behind many of these incidents.
This was ridiculous as these policemen could have easily subdued this man without using a taser. They are too often taking the easy way out without trying to impose their physical superiority. These toys should be taken away from them as they apparently aren't capable of good judgement or they are simply too lazy.
barnburner,
I work in a hospital as a nurse aide. My floor is medical/oncology/diabetes. Since we have such a grab bag in terms of patient population, we often get extremely disoriented, combative patients. Many suffer from dementia. Some can become extremely aggressive.
We're all trained in a program used nation-wide by health care facilities, prisons, law enforcement, security, etc called "Management Of Aggressive Behavior," or MOAB for short.
I've had patients who've hurled call bells, telephones, cans of cola, and picked up chairs when escalated. We've never needed a taser gun to manage those situations.
What I'm saying is there are effective, humane methods available for situations like the one descibed in this story. Taser guns are brutal, and most all, unnecessary.
riski,
I agree that there are a lot of reasons they may be coming here. Pittsburgh is attractive among US cities because of its reputation as being largely populated by people of Slavic descent (we still have a neighborhood that is nearly all Polish) and Russians, Ukranians and Serbians are attracted to it's Orthodox Churches.
Everything about this article is a lie, and Naomi Klein's only purpose is to produce a cheap tie-in with her book about "The Shock Doctrine."
Look at the video! It's on YouTube at http://youtube.com/watch?v=qHKk5qQRzL4
If you pay careful attention toward the end, it will be apparent that Dziekanski is clubbed into submission and probably killed by a policeman after tasering fails to subdue him.
Obviously I'm not defending the police. I think they killed this man, and there's screaming video evidence of it. But it's obvious that he wasn't "shocked" to death by a taser, but killed instead by a much more old-fashioned instrument.
Naomi Klein's uses cheap word-play with "shock" and distorts what happened with no other purpose than to exploit the death of this unfortunate man to sell her book.
This is really disgraceful, and it compromises the value of her useful book.
Canada used to be a "gentle" society with an extensive safety net - things change.
I don't know why the other passagers thought the man was Russian rather than Polish or Ukranian. Maybe the accent reminded them of something they heard during a hockey interview. At least they were in the ball park. At least they were trying to figure out what Robert Dziekanski needed most - someone who can listen.
What were they talking about?
Thursday, October 30, 2003
Mr. Inky Mark (Dauphin—Swan River, PC): As Canadians, we know that civil rights are the pillar of this democracy that we live in and believe in. We all know there are many bleak moments in Canadian history.
Let me review a few of them: the internment of Japanese Canadians during the second world war and the internment of Ukrainian Canadians during the first world war. Between 1914 and 1920 over 5,000 Ukrainians were interned in 24 work camps across the country. There was also the Chinese Exclusion Act from 1923 to 1947. Hopefully, we can learn from history.
Thursday, November 7, 2002
Ms. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre, NDP): Just as changes to our view of citizenship have acted as markers of our social progress, citizenship has also provided the focus for several of the most shameful incidents throughout our history, occasions wherein we as a nation have failed to rise above our bigotries of the moment, some racial and some gender.
In that context we ought to acknowledge the work that has been done inside and outside the House to seek recognition for Ukrainian Canadians who were interned and who were considered enemy aliens. I want to acknowledge the work of the member for Dauphin - Swan River who has a bill before the House to seek official recognition and restitution. It is important for us in this regard to acknowledge the work of those who are struggling to achieve recognition and restitution among the Chinese community and to deal appropriately in this place with the Chinese immigration head tax and the Chinese exclusion act. These two incidents in our past still haunt us. They must be addressed and deserve to be considered in the context of this debate about citizenship.
As we consider changes to the Citizenship Act, they remind us that we must be vigilant to keep our vision and ideals at the highest level and to resist the ever present pressures to backslide or settle to lesser, divisive and exclusionary alternatives. At the time, assigning the restricting of citizenship rights to certain citizens or to deny citizenship altogether to certain identifiable groups may have been acceptable to the majority. Women had to engage in an incredible struggle to attain the right to vote. First nations only won the right to vote in 1960.
These and many other affronts to our current norms were promoted as reasonable by contemporary authorities. Race based immigration policies have only been formally dropped in recent years. Some Canadians contend that lingering vestiges of that bias may still be systemically embedded in our current policy. These issues are not ancient history.
http://thomhartmann.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4061097651/m/3901028782?r=3901028782#3901028782
I went to Hansard and pulled up all reference to Maher Arar between Monday, October 21, 2002 and Friday, November 7, 2003. Seems that one cannot talk about Maher Arar during Question Period without bringing up similar things from the past. I wonder what is being brought up from the past when ever Robert Dziekanski's name is brought up during Question Period.
Thursday, November 15, 2007
Ms. Libby Davies (Vancouver East, NDP): Mr. Speaker, I have been calling for a full review of the use of tasers since 2004, shortly after their implication in the deaths of two people who lived in my riding of Vancouver East.
We learned yesterday that after only 30 seconds on the scene at the Vancouver airport, the RCMP tasered Mr. Dziekanski at least twice, with charges of 50,000 volts. Moments later, he was dead.
In too many instances, tasers are being used on the homeless, people with mental health problems or drug use problems and essentially the most marginalized people in our communities.
There are no clear national standards for the use of tasers and little understanding of their impact. Two more men died in Quebec after being tasered earlier this year. We cannot wait for one more victim before action is taken.
Until strict standards are in place, until we can know that tasers are safe and until we can be sure that tasers are being used properly, they should not be in use. We call for a full and comprehensive review of the use of tasers.
http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=39&Ses=2&DocId=3108375
BTW - Has anyone heard of the Police Officer suing after being Tasered during a demonstration?
RichM, you wrote:
she says latest World Bank figures for Poland show 20% unemployment, overall.
That was true, once. A few years ago they peaked at that %. Currently they are still just over 10%, but falling fast. Still bad stats, but they also reflect the method of counting, which include long-term unemployed, immigrants still registered and claiming benefits, and many self-employed off-the-books types, whom the authorities don't seem to have any means to rein-in.
"(According to Klein's account, the "reforms" proved so devastating & unpopular, that the population eventually demanded a halt to the shock therapy measures.)"
A new government with different policies was voted in. Democracy its called. No big deal.
The Kaczynskis were unpopular, but no one has accused them of being corrupt as you suggest. However, they were elected to their seperate posts in two seperate elections, and no one has ever suggested that there was anything un-kosher about the process.
When I spoke of Poland as a gentle society, I did not have in mind its politicians and their machinations. I meant the society as a whole, compared to the US for example, though you might argue that that applies to many societies.
The National Health System was never dismantled, it did go through a crisis for a while, and still needs work (but logevity, infant mortality, and health of people show major improvement). Retirement pension systems were not cut, only restructured, and are cosidered a success. Privatization was inevitable, since Poland was a Communist "command economy", many argue that it still has not gone far enough, and lags in this behind most other European "mixed economies". Poland spends a very high % of its GNP on its "safety net", higher than any other country in Europe, I think.
All this goes to show that you shouldn't belive everything you hear or read (which does, of course include what I just wrote. But I am, writing this without any weird agenda; I just get kinda pissed at this monotonous drone of tired old stereotypes).
According to the man who shot the video,
Dziekanski had stopped throwing things and lifted his hands to show he was through protesting, and THEN the cops tasered him. He obviously had no other weapon, so they could just have subdued him. Will every disturbed passenger be killed from now on, with impunity? This is monstrous.
By the way, Naomi, the TV report I saw (and who knows where they get their facts) showed a much larger death toll in Canada than 17 - something like 47 (and 248 in the U.S.). Not that numbers mean anything, it's the fact of using tasers on unarmed people that's the issue. And your book rocks, lady!
In Jacksonville FL we just had someone tasered to death within a day of the Canadian incident--the guy wasn't suffering from any chronic disease, he wasn't in the process of comitting some capital crime, he just got a little mouthy and rowdy and so they tasered him after subduing him and putting him in the squad car. By the time they got to the police station he was dead. These are getting to be more and more common incidents and it stinks to high heaven.
There is a saying from the Indiginous people of this continent that goes something like this: "Don't judge another until you have walked a mile in his/her moccasins." This man's behavior in the airport was the result of hours and years of frustration, it seems. I don't know the facts and cannot read his mind, but from all accounts there had been a buildup of mental and emotional tension prior to his acting out his apparent frustration, fear and anger. Trained professional, as drift points out, "should" be able to assess and respond to such situations with humanity and compassion. There are too many people who choose not to open their hearts to others and recognize our common humanity. Wars are the result of this failure to recognize that our family members are everywhere. Robert Dziekanski was a brother and his death is a tragedy we all share. We may learn from it or continue the insanity of violence and rage as a response to our differences. As this applies to individuals, it also applies to groups, countries and governments. Instead of looking for the solutions out there, let's look within our own hearts and minds for solutions. The outer issues will be healed from within, not without.
peace,
st john
Mr. Freeze,
Whether he was clubbed to death or tasered to death is a moot point. He was brutally handled, and died as a result. This is Ms. Klien's point. I think it's a big reach to accuse her of manipulating this story for personal gain.
It was the descriptions of the torture tactic of shock she found in declassified CIA manuals that gave her the idea to draw the obvious parallels to Chicago School economics, and thus give her a title for her thesis and book.
Check out the promotional short movie for the book, and you'll see for youself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kieyjfzPUIc
The way the mounties behaved is an absolute disgrace. They are not Gods. They need to be dragged into court and convicted for their crimes. Who died and appointed them God Almighty? No one is above the law; and that does include law enforcement, as well. Slap em' in handcuffs, drag em' into court, prosecute em' to the full extent of the law, and sentence em'. They've earned it. They murdered a man; they deserve the full penalty available under the law.
And now for a comment from canuckchuck................
Neither Ms. Klein nor any of the commenters on this thread cares enough about the unfortunate Mr. Dziekanski to treat him as an individual instead of a device for pimping a book or whining about tasers.
Mr. Dziekanski was killed with a club after tasering failed to subdue him. This is exactly the sort of incident that tasers are designed to avoid.
What options do the police have for subduing a large man who is violently resisting arrest? The most usual all over the world are clubs and tear gas, and tear gas really isn't an option in an enclosed space like an airport.
The police followed reasonable procedure right up until the moment when an out-of-control officer killed Mr. Dziekanski with a club, as you can clearly see near the end of the video at http://youtube.com/watch?v=qHKk5qQRzL4
But why bother about the truth, when it's so much easier to rehash silly cliche's about tasers, or pimp a book?
Mr Freeze, you are getting two separate taser incidents that happened in BC mixed up with each other.
You may be referring to "RCMP use Taser on Chilliwack man during arrest"
There was also another man who was Tasered by the RCMP in BC after Robert Dziekanski was who is now fighting for his life in hospital. The one that was pepper sprayed, tasered and batton is in bad shape in hospital. We keep get updated as to his condition, but his name has not been released.
catherine, you are referring to "Most people hit with RCMP Tasers unarmed: reports"
There were 606 reported incidents where the taser was taken out, but in 43 of these cases it was not used. Of the 563 cases where the taser was used, in 79% of these cases, the person it was used on was unarmed.
(See last three posts in "Video of Taser Death in Canada Sparks Probe" for link to this and other recent articles on taser incidents)
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/16/5283/
Taser manufacturer wants role in review process
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071121/taser_review_071121/20071121/
Freeze,
Seems like your trying to pick a fight with people who have no argument with you whatsoever about the brutal, inhumane way Mr. Dziekanski was treated, and killed.
I've seen the video. I have no argument with you on this point, nor would I daresay, do most people here posting. What I am trying to point out in a calm, non-threatening manner, is that I think you're WRONG about Naomi Klein.
Ah, how we progressives so enjoy eating our own...
Jacob Freeze, right under the youtube video you linked us to is the caption:
This is a video response to Man Tasered, Sprayed & Beaten by Chilliwack RCMP
Click on it. You keep referring to the Chilliwack incident.
If my above link doesn't take you directly to the video on youtube, type in "shock doctrine" in the search area, and it'll be the first one that pops up.
Tasering is a disturbingly perfect symbol of ever diminishing "normal" society's (now amounting to ca 10 % of global population) clean and soft killings. Noiseless and invisible to "normalcy".
(Those 30.000 dying of malnutrition every day - why don't they stop doing that? I'm sure that gang is doing it over and over again every day mostly to annoy us normal people. They have no taste, dying on our screens like that, now that Christmas is coming on and everything and all we real people wish for is something nice and pretty...)
Adapting to the capitalism's growth-blinded ruthlessnesses paving over people and our natural needs for stability rather than growth, is like a jew in a Hitler-gasschamber crying out: "I give in - I'll be good now and cooperate, I promise!"
Klein is pimping her new book and that's why she's seizing upon this particular incident to correlate it to her 'shock doctrine'. It and she are beyond sleazy. Have to agree with JacobFreeze about this point.
For those enamoured of Klein's latest book, take a peek at this review of it. Ask yourself, as this reviewer does, why Klein treats 9/11 so differently from all the other 'instigating' events which she discusses. Curious isn't it.
http://www.bestcyrano.org/THOMASPAINE/?p=429#comment-7815
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The cops who tasered and jumped that man, causing his death, should all be charged with manslaughter or murder, and part of their rehabilitation should be that they themselves get tasered.
It's no exaggeration that some pigs become cops. That's why some (many?) cops are pigs. Some others are decent human beings who become decent police officers. Who, in their right mind, could argue with those facts?
The video linked in my comment is titled "Vancouver Airport Taser Killing of Dziekanski by Police." Here it is again: http://youtube.com/watch?v=qHKk5qQRzL4
It's a response to the Chilliwack incident, which also didn't have everybody looking for someone who spoke Russian. It isn't a very useful language in Chilliwack.
As for Naomi Klein...
Why would anyone think she's just pimping her book when she makes a connection based on nothing but word-play between her macro-economic thesis and a tasering incident in Vancouver? If you can see any other connection besides a burning desire to put some variant of "shock" in a headline in the LA Times, please explain it to me.
I happen to agree with Ms. Klein's book, as well as I can understand it, but I also think she's a real jerk!
Poland is a great country with proud people who have suffered for centuries from the curse of having no real natural borders to help protect her from predators. The Germans, Russians and then the Soviets have carved up the country many times. The fall of communism and, more importantly, the end of Soviet occupation is not something the average Polish citizen looks at with sadness as Ms Klein seems inclined to- ah it's tough for some to get over the romance of the glorious worker's paradise. That is as long as they didn't have to live there!
Regrettably our Idiot in Chief has decimated the image of our country abroad-still the Polish people have the highest favorable view of the US of any country in Europe (61%- Pew Research). They do not as a whole seem to agree with Ms Klein about her Shock Catastrophe.
While I have traveled there twice I don't know it as well as the other poor Shocked country that she mentions: China. I work and travel there often and can tell you in no uncertain terms that if Shock Therapy is what she calls what has happened there in the last decade- Baby they will tell you just keep shocking them.
I admit that I have read only parts of her book, and I only Minored in Economics but I have to say that while it does make some good points on bad and sometimes catastrophic policies, the economic/geostrategic part seems beyond strained. It is true that the US and other OECD countries along with the IMF and WB have mauled struggling nations by trying to implement theoretical models before the necessary foundation is laid. Like Democracy itself, regulated free markets will only work in conjunction with the rule of law and protections constitutionally guaranteed.
A good friend of mine did major in Economics and went on to get her PHD at Stanford University in International Economics. She teaches at an Elite East Coast University and has always been liberal with a capital L. I asked her what she thought of the book as an economic study and she gave me a one work answer- GIBBERISH.
drift, saw that film already a few times.
One of Ewen Cameron's victims was the wife of a local MLA before he was a local MP. This is one of the reasons I keep bringing up the family that Naomi Klein married into in relation to this book - David Lewis and Ed Broadbent were leaders of the NDP when David Orlikow was an NDP MP (before that he was an NDP MLA which is the Provincial version of an MP). It is because of the NDP that we know as much as we do about Ewen Cameron and the role of the CIA.
MP=Congressperson
Did you see Naomi Klein on The Hour yet?
http://www.cbc.ca/thehour/video.php?id=1667
Jacob Freeze, I know that. I am just saying click on the other video. I watched them both.
annemarie j, you are looking at it as an isolated incident rather than a brick in a bigger picture of events. It is not just about punishing these cops but about preventing future results. And, for Naomi, it is not just about the safety tasers or police brutality but the brutality of Corporatism.
What were the names of those people who broke machines during the industrial revolution because they felt the machines were destroying their livelihoods during the Industrial Revolution in England? I assure you that there became stronger laws to protect machines than humans during that time period.
It is the same pattern happening here - or starting to happen.
NAOMI - thank you.
I now see so many multilayered shocks impinging on all of us, and especially see what goes for an individual's torture (or the denial of "it") is prototypical of cultural (and multi-national) shock doctrine.
For ~ 20 years, many of the local police (& sheriffs) have been re-training as "shock troops", in how they confront, intimidate, and maintain an upper hand for any encounter with the public, as if we are all assumed to be armed terrorists, or drug dealers - or in my case years ago - a "cult member" (as my buddy and I were both long haired and bearded).
The time for interactions with dignity, decency, understanding, tolerance, appreciation of differences, ... has (too me) blizzarly vanished. OK, I grant that many public servants (out in the public) do have reasonable fears (for their lives), when there is so much violence everywhere.
Tasers aside, we all deserve to be treated humanely, even if some red flag gets raised. It's like assuming all those "slow/dumb" drivers out there are really one's own mother, grey hair and always trying to do their best.
There's a bit of math that goes along with this, we now seem to force (shock, as we're not equal, by a long shot) the recipients to carry >90% of the communications burden, whereas civil societies (of equals) have each side generously putting forth 60-70% -- so that there's lots of overlap and understanding (to stand under) kind of like a shock absorber -- to ensure human connection is made, and communication can progress.
Stun me, I'm an idealist, but could we at least get back to a 51/51 deal?
Namaste
vaudree,
Thanks for the link, I just watched it. I LOVE this woman. If we weren't both already married.... But I'm dreaming now.
Sorry, didn't catch that stuff about Ewen C. I guess you're Canadian? I admit my share of American ignorance about how your system works and who the players are. It's all I have time for keeping up with the f-ing neocons down here. Do you have an article about this you can link for me?
Freeze,
Look, I'm going to rest on this now, but I just don't see how Naomi is a jerk. I also find it peculiar that you think she is, yet agree with most of what she writes.
Anyway, here's my obligatory plug: Don't like Disaster Capitalism? ...so called Free Trade? ...want out of NAFTA, the WTO, and Iraq? Want real universal health care? Want Cheney impeached?
Go to http://www.dennis4president.com
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Dear Vaudree, Thanks for the video clip above, Ms. Klein is quite able to defend her thesis publicly and for that all progressives should be happy. Others, could you give us a break with depressing, moronic crap like, "pimping her book"?