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Shocked in Death, Shocked in Life: More Than a Taser Story
The world saw a video last week of Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers using a Taser against a Polish man in the Vancouver International Airport in October. The man, Robert Dziekanski, died soon after the attack. In recent days, more details have come out about him. It turns out that the 40-year-old didn't just die after being shocked -- his life was marked by shock as well.
Dziekanski was a young adult in 1989, when Poland began a grand experiment called "shock therapy" for the nation. The promise was that if the communist country accepted a series of brutal economic measures, the reward would be a "normal European country" like France or Germany. The pain would be short, the reward great.
So Poland's government eliminated price controls overnight, slashed subsidies, privatized industries. But for young workers such as Dziekanski, "normal" never arrived. Today, roughly 40% of young Polish workers are unemployed. Dziekanski was among them. He had worked as a typesetter and a miner, but for the last few years, he had been unemployed and had had run-ins with the law.
Like so many Poles of his generation, Dziekanski went looking for work in one of those "normal" countries that Poland was supposed to become but never did. Two million Poles have joined this mass exodus during the last three years alone. Dziekanski's cohorts have gone to work as bartenders in London, doormen in Dublin, plumbers in France. Last month, he chose to follow his mother to British Columbia, Canada, which is in a pre-Olympics construction boom.
"After seven years of waiting, [Dziekanski] arrived to his utopia, Vancouver," said the Polish consul general, Maciej Krych. "Ten hours later, he was dead."
Much of the outrage sparked by the video, which was made by another passenger at the airport, has focused on the controversial use of Tasers, already implicated in 17 deaths in Canada and many more in the United States.
But what happened in Vancouver was about more than a weapon. It was also about an increasingly brutal side of the global economy -- about the reality that many victims of various forms of economic "shock therapy" face at our borders.
Rapid economic transformations like Poland's have created enormous wealth -- in new investment opportunities; currency trading; in leaner, meaner companies able to comb the globe for the cheapest location to manufacture. But from Mexico to China to Poland, they also have created tens of millions of discarded people, the people who lose their jobs when factories close or lose their land when export zones open.
Understandably, many of these people often choose to move: from countryside to city, from country to country. As Dziekanski appeared to be doing, they go in search of that elusive "normal."
But there isn't enough normal to go around, or so we are told. And so, as migrants move, they are often met with other shocks. A treacherous razor fence protecting Spain's North Africa enclaves, or a Taser gun on the U.S.-Mexican border. Canada, which used to be known around the world for its openness to refugees, is militarizing its borders, with lines between immigrant and terrorist blurring fast.
Dziekanski's inhuman treatment at the hands of the Canadian police must be seen in this context. The police were called when Dziekanski, lost and disoriented, began shouting in Polish, at one point throwing a chair. Faced with a foreigner like Dziekanski, who spoke no English, why talk when you can shock? It strikes me that the same brutal, short-cut logic guided Poland's economic transition to capitalism: Why take the gradual route, which required debate and consent, when "shock therapy" promised an instant, if painful, cure?
I realize that I am talking about very different kinds of shocks here, but they do interconnect in a cycle I call "the shock doctrine." First comes the shock of a national crisis, making countries desperate for any cure and willing to sacrifice democracy in the process. In Poland in 1989, that first shock was the sudden end of communism and the economic meltdown. Then comes the economic shock therapy, the undemocratic process pushed through in the window of crisis that jolts an economy into growth but blasts so many people out of the picture.
Then, in far too many cases, there is the third shock, the one that disciplines and deals with the discarded people: the desperate, the migrants, those driven mad by the system.
Each shock has the potential to kill, some more suddenly than others.
Naomi Klein is the author of many books, including her most recent, The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, which will be published in September. Visit Naomi's website at www.naomiklein.org, or to learn more about her new book, visit www.shockdoctrine.com .
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Show AllYeah, I'm Canadian so don't ask me to spell Dennis Kucinich correctly. If Kucinich was Canadian, he would probably be voting for the NDP. The Manitoba Hansard has a better write up about David Orlikow than the Ottawa Hansard:
http://www.gov.mb.ca/legislature/hansard/4th-36th/vol_071b/h071b_9.html
If you ever see the made for TV movie "The Sleep Room" produced by Anne Wheeler, there is also a clip of David Orlikow in Parliament in it.
Drift, maybe you should meet Naomi's husband - Avi Lewis (if you like him, you won't feel so much like cutting his grass :evil ). Note that the person who interviewed Naomi Klein (George Stroumboulopoulos) used to work with Avi Lewis at Much Music before they both got shows on the CBC and has also interviewed Naomi's father-in-law - Stephen Lewis. Avi Lewis in action:
http://www.cbc.ca/onthemap/fullpage.php?id=119
Tony, of course she's pimping her book - all authors do - it is whether she is pimping it for the money or pimping it because she feels that it has something important to say - which is the point. That whole criticism is not worth losing sleep over.
Take care all of you! And note that anyone who has ever been tasered, I think, wants to be part of this inquiry.
"Why would anyone think she's just pimping her book when she makes a connection based on nothing but word-play between her macro-economic thesis and a tasering incident in Vancouver?"
Mr. Freeze,
And you're not pimping yourself by picking a fight while displaying your own link to your business/avocation?
C'mon, Man, we're here as friends.
As for Naomi Klein's point, it's valid. Her point is that there is a reason this poor man was in Canada in the first place. His life was turned upside down by privatization and his subsequent immigration and death were a result. Happens many times over in the U.S.
Rock on, Naomi!
There are more and more displaced people everyday. Desperate people have nothing to lose so it really doesn't matter. Only unsafe if you cannot afford a gated community.
Drift, found another Naomi Klein interview on CTV's Canada AM:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070903/Naomi_Klein_070903/20070904/
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That is the big difference between your system and our system.
"Pimping" doesn't have any meaning? What are words worth? Why not give Ms. Klein at least the respect that is due to anyone who has the intelligence and education to be able to develop a rational and thorough thesis, even if you don't want to agree with it?
It's one thing for Ms. Klein's byline to mention that she wrote a book called The Shock Doctrine, and something else again for her to distort the whole story just to bring her book into the headline.
Mr. Dziekanski was not killed by a "shock." He was killed with a club, as anyone who bothers to watch the video at http://youtube.com/watch?v=qHKk5qQRzL4 can plainly see, about seven minutes into the 8 minute video.
I didn't call it "pimping" because the story includes a link to her book. I call it "pimping" because she was willing to distort the truth to promote her book into a headline.
Several commenters expressed surprise that I would criticize Ms. Klein even though I admire her book, and this is the most ridiculous aspect of this whole simple-minded thread of discussion. Am I supposed to give the jerk Naomi Klein a free pass to insult the memory a very unfortunate person by twisting the facts of his death into whatever shape will propel her book into yet another headline?
No way!
And I'll keep responding just as long as other commenters keep making excuses for Klein's wretched exploitation of the death of that sad and confused person.
After reading several posts on this thread, I began to notice a pattern as some people jumped all over each other in what, for the most part, turned out to be simple misunderstanding,for which they later apologized.
I was struck by the similarities to the story of the RMC's reflexive shoot first ask questions later approach Assumptions were made and actions taken without talking first (seek translator)to try to understand his strange (threatening?) behavior.
Mirrors, folks---talk about creating our own reality. All we have to do is start discussing misunderstanding and its resulting violence, and it immediately manifests on the thread.
This is not a judgement---just a heads up. We really need to stop looking outside ourselves for the solutions, and we sure as hell need to look deeply within to see our own contribuition to the problems at hand.
This thread was incredibly instructive on so many levels, if you have eyes to see and ears to hear.
- what Naomi does have right is that this is very related to capitalism and the 'new world order'. A very interesting book online about what this is all about is They're Building a Box - and You're In It - http://www.rudemacedon.ca/dlp/box/box-intro.html .
That the poor disoriented man was tasered and killed is horrible and I have read so much about it. Yet nobody has mentioned that the taser metes out excruciating pain. 7% of the population have sadistic tendencies. Any person authorised to use one had better be NORMAL. A sadist would WANT to use the equipment.....are taser operators vetted for this abnormality???
Mr. Freeze thank you for pointing it out . Yes, my countryman was clubbed to death. At first I thought it was a recharge procedure. I have not read the book so I have no other comments. Mr. Risky thank you as well for standing the polish ground.
But tomorrow is a Thanksgiving day, and I ask myself how am I going to say "God bless you". I tell you, I am not going to say it because I feel that its meaning was stolen. To tell you the truth, lately I avoid saying "How are you" because I feel that its meaning was stolen as well. I think that this is what people mean when they say that America has lost its high moral ground and brutality has moved instead.
STAROFTHESEA
Great idea to focus on what is connecting us, instead of separating us - maybe even attempting to *_dream_* together on *_common_* things?
The fact of the matter is the RCMP are hiring just about anybody that applys these days.If you have the requisite education you could find yourself in and out of the academy in 6 months.And then you are often forced to patrol alone.We have had several officers from the RCMP killed in the past few years.When i was growing up it was rare to ever hear of a police involved shooting let alone the death of an officer.The call probaly went out to the officers that the man was throwing things around in the airport.And acting irrational.His neighbours in Poland report that he gave away the last few packs of cigarettes before leaving.Planning on started his new life in Canada a non-smoker he was trying to quit cold turkey.Ive quit drinking that way and it wasnt pleasant.Ive been told the withdrawl from tobacco is far worse.Not an excuse for his actions but perhaps an explanation for them.Also im not sure if the ages of the officers involved have been released or not or their time with the force but officer inexperience must also be looked at.And when the tasers were introduced they were to be ONLY in instances when an officer would be forced to shoot otherwise.Now it looks like its being used as an easy way for some people to get out of a situation whereas they may face a physical confrontation.We as a society must let it be known NOW that we dont want to see these things used on those who may wish to protest in more vocal fashion.We already have undercover provincial police in Quebec dressing up as violent rock throwing demonstraters as to intice their breathern into attacking the peaceful protesters.We need to express our views en masse now.Or the scenes we saw from the streets of Burma will be making an apperance near you soon.
Why are we surprised about the tasering incident? Most security officers watched our "shock and awe" attack which killed unknown numbers of innocents. Then we were treated to the cruel handling of people, guilty or not, at Abu Graib and Gitmo, where many escaped prosecution for their crimes. Now we are witnessing thousands of people that formerly were in favor of abiding by international rules on treatment of prisoners trying to convince themselves that torture is right and necessary because a few deluded "leaders" say so. Life is great now if you are rich and powerful, not so good if you are poor or homeless or caught acting "suspicious".
Since no one here has mentioned it yet: Shouldn't we outlaw Tasers simply on the basis that hundreds of thousands of people have undetected heart arrhythmias that could kick in and kill them if they're electrically shocked? There MUST be a better way.
Mr. Freeze,
I watched the video and it does look like he is being clubbed at the 7ish minute mark, but if you look closely the officer is actually collapsing his baton(its a telescoping one). It even mentions this directly to the right of the video on the "About this Video" section. I had to watch it a couple times to be sure.
Medical experts on Canadian radio (CBC) have said it's probable that the cop kneeling on his neck killed the poor guy. However, most people seem to agree that the tasering didn't help, doesn't help and should probably be stopped, cops being a little too trigger happy with it. (sound familiar?) Freeze, I think you're alienating those who might agree with you by frothing too hard at the mouth and getting all pissed about something that doesn't matter that much. Naomi's doing what she can to make a difference. Maybe you should just try self-publishing...
I'm pleasantly surprised that they even published Klein's essay in the LA Times, a paper which has loaded up with neo-cons and right-wing pundits of late.
One reader takes issue with Naomi Klein's depiction of economic conditions in Poland. The commentator says:
"What undermines this article's credibility by 100% is the claim that these kind of situations (Poles seeking refuge from the horror of life in Poland) arise from 40% unemployment in Poland. Unemployment in Poland is just over 10% at the latest count."
First, the commentator, who seems offended by her comments on Poland's economy, fails to notice that when Klein cites 40% unemployment she writes:
"Today, roughly 40% of young Polish workers are unemployed."
So Klein is addressing a specific segment of the Polish labor force.
It should also be remembered that when large numbers of people give up looking for work, they are no longer counted as "unemployed."
This is a technique used in the U.S. to keep unemployment numbers artificially low as well. Also, they typically ignore underemployed people who cannot find full employment.
http://globalis.gvu.unu.edu/indicator_detail.cfm?IndicatorID=88&Country=PL
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=353&objectid=10463646
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Tasers in North America have become a weapon of social control.
Tasers are normally less lethal than guns and are loved by police forces because they can disable a victim from a distance without any risk to themselves. Intended to largely replace guns, a tool of last resort, they have now migrated to a tool of first resort. This is because Tasers are so easy to use and in most cases leave no lasting effect but they can cause lasting back problems due to muscle spasms and they are associated with death in individuals who are suffering heart problems or what is called, non-medically, "excited delirium". Death is then blamed on this condition, even though it is not recognized by the American Medical Association because to prove otherwise is currently impossible. Proof is lacking but correlation between Tasers and hundreds of dead is however available in spades.
Tasers are not non-lethal, they are just less lethal and they are now used routinely as punishment both in jails and on the street. Tasers have really become the equivalent of the electronic whip, a whip that can be fatal.
It is obvious that Jacob Freeze is just trying to "pick a fight" or he is simply cranky with Naomi Klein for some reason.
Naomi obviously sees some connection between what she has written and an incident that occurred in a Canadian airport.
I have read her book as most likely have many of the readers of Common Dreams.
Is she plugging her book? Maybe. But why shouldn't she? Good on her! I definitely plug her book every chance I get. If more people read it maybe more people would be aware of what is really happening around the world right under their noses.
Other than that, I am not going to respond to your pathetic attempt at "trolling" this comment board.
Ms. Klein's hypothesis is ridiculous, as a previous poster has noted.
1) "First comes the shock of a national crisis, making countries desperate for any cure and willing to sacrifice democracy in the process. In Poland in 1989, that first shock was the sudden end of communism and the economic meltdown..."
2) "Then comes the economic shock therapy, the undemocratic process pushed through in the window of crisis that jolts an economy into growth but blasts so many people out of the picture."
3) "...there is the third shock, the one that disciplines and deals with the discarded people..."
Such a childish assessment is indicative of a diversionist strategy employed by the corporate governments to hide the true nature of the change behind a propagandistic story that will seem plausible to those people who do not know enough about the situation in order for them to make a valued appraisal. There was only one thing that happened in the former socialist countries and that is that they were sabotaged by the U.S. and the "West" during their "cold war" and the privatizing was nothing more than the sharing of the spoils. When Ms. Klein presents the whole wretched transition as some sort of natural evolution of societies she is either displaying an incredible stupidity or she is working an imperialistic agenda.
The tasers used by the corporate government's police forces are supposed to have exactly the effect that they are having, which is to spread terror and fear among the general population. The corporate governments will always be trying to keep the general populations in a state of stress, because that is how they control them, and they usually have several projects operating at once. It can be pepper spray, which was their best fear inducer before the tasers, or it can be the war on harmless drugs like marijuana, or it can be terrifying the parent population with "child pornography" and all of it's linkages. If the government was truly interested in creating a relatively safe society then that could be easily done within a few short years by initiating the proper programs, but their solution is always to put more police on the street, because that increases their standing army, and to never deal realistically with the solveable problems.
Bitching about the police is just another brilliant way for the Left to lose elections.
If you check the polls, you may notice that 4 times more Americans trust the police than trust Congress. More Americans trust the police than trust religion.
So instead of concentrating on the few psycho officers who actually kill people like Mr. Dziekanski, we get ridiculous blanket condemnations of the police in general. What a brilliant way to alienate the majority of voters in every election!
And it's especially brilliant to attack police in Canada, of all places, and especially for tasers, which kill about 4 people per year in Canada, according to Amnesty International. A grand total of 15 people from 2003 to 2007! As a cause of death it's right up there with lightening strikes and insect bites!
So let's alienate the vast majority of voters who trust the police by bitching about a few freakish psycho episodes, and allow the Right to use this ridiculous anti-police rhetoric to discredit social programs that would save tens of thousands of lives every year!
After all, most people agree with the progressive social agenda, and we have to be really creative to lose elections when almost all the issues favor the Left!
"This is not a judgement—just a heads up. We really need to stop looking outside ourselves for the solutions, and we sure as hell need to look deeply within to see our own contribuition to the problems at hand."
You rock too, starofthesea!
Happy Harvest Day, everyone.
"Mr. Dziekanski was not killed by a "shock." He was killed with a club, as anyone who bothers to watch the video at http://youtube.com/watch?v=qHKk5qQRzL4 can plainly see, about seven minutes into the 8 minute video."
That's interesting, because I also heard that one of the officers had his knee on the man's neck, which may have strangled him or cut off blood flow to his brain. Or, he may have died of a heart attack.
Point is, no one knows what exactly killed the man other than too much force.
Be that as it may, Naomi Klein has a perfectly valid point and I applaud her for doing the background research. How many "news" stories uncovered any background into Mr. Dziekanski's life?
Without stories such as this one, we will never begin to connect the dots.
Well, the back bacon & Molsons would have killed him eventually anyways...the cops just sped up the process.
macneil,
"Such a childish assessment is indicative of a diversionist strategy employed by the corporate governments to hide the true nature of the change behind a propagandistic story that will seem plausible to those people who do not know enough about the situation in order for them to make a valued appraisal."
Huh? What does this mean? We've got some serious issues here with cogent thinking...
Freeze,
Have you considered that Americans have been fed a steady diet of fear for quite some time now, particularly in the last 6 years? When it's done effectively it's a powerful method of social control. Those who are in the grip of fear are, of course, going to turn to those figures who they think will protect them. Like the police. Or the federal government.
Now, this doesn't mean I'm advocating disrespecting all police officers. But I think it's the duty of progressives to puncture and discredit this obvious form of social control. Fearful people are willing to sacrifice their liberties, and this overly empowers those they cede their power to, like the police or federal government. And as we all know, power corrupts. How many stories about police brutality do we here about, year after year?
A clear thinking, non-fearful citizenry will provide the necessary checks and balances to keep those who are charged to protect and serve them from becoming oppressive. This is an agenda I think most Americans would agree with. But we have to reframe the debate.
And that's what I think Naomi has done BRILLIANTLY in her new book.
Jacob Freeze, could there not have been more than one taser incident in BC - considering that BC RCMP are the top users of tasers in the country?
B.C. Mounties top users of Taser among RCMP members in Canada: report
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/11/20/bc-tasers.html
CTV British Columbia: St. John Alexander on how Tasers are viewed south of the border 2:11 (title of video on your right)
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071121/taser_kennedy_071121/20071121?hub=Canada
MP=Congress Persons - all Ministers are MPs
Jacob Freeze says: And I'll keep responding just as long as other commenters keep making excuses for Klein's wretched exploitation of the death of that sad and confused person.
Concede that Robert Dziekanski is used as a prototype, but must stress that there are many Robert Dziekanskis and that Naomi Klein's goal is to wake up people to the pattern to insure that there are fewer of them in the future.
Note that you don't get every single Naomi Klein article - that they come out first in Canada and only if the contents are deemed relevant to an American audience do you get to read them. Of course Naomi Klein is going to comment on topical things - she has to put out an article every week - and especially on topics that she feels prudent to keep in the news. You don't have an article by Linda McQuaig this week because she is writing about the Mulroney-Schreiber affair - which might implicate both the Conservatives and Liberals - but probably not that many high profile Americans.
Also note, as you look at the interactive map, that Libby Davies mentions two people in her riding that were tasered. I am not from BC so I don't know if she is talking about the two taser deaths in BC or just two incidents in a year where there were two deaths.
Riding=Voting District (please adopt the term since it makes typing easier).
Robert Dziekanski's death, whether by kneeling, taser, quitting smoking cold turkey or all of the above, has captured peoples imagination in Canada moreso than any of the other taser deaths because Canada was embarrassed internationally over the incident. Robert Dziekanski's mother wants to get at the bottom over what has happened to her son, which means that it serves her interest to have it kept into the spot light for as long as possible - which means making Robert the poster boy. It is if this story fades from the spot-light that you are most apt to get a cover-up and that being the end of it. That is how things work in Canada. If you don't believe me, you haven't spent over 20 years hearing about the bombing of Air India.
Jacob Freeze says: Several commenters expressed surprise that I would criticize Ms. Klein even though I admire her book, and this is the most ridiculous aspect of this whole simple-minded thread of discussion.
I am just surprised at what you are criticizing (maybe it is just cultural differences but that is how things are done here). It is like criticizing the Leaders of the Opposition parties for asking questions during Question Period! And I do figure that you are getting Robert Dziekanski mixed up with the guy from Chilliwack. CTV says of the guy from Chilliwack: "CTV British Columbia has learned from sources that the man's organs are failing and that he has been put on kidney dialysis." At least this is not the United States where his family would have been forced to pick up the tab for his stay in Hospital! And there is no evidence that this guy spoke any language other than English - though I can't say for sure.
Re: siamdave link
You are missing the point, siamdave - Canada doesn't have to be the greatest country in the world - we just have to be better than the United States to feel good about ourselves! :slightly evil All the shock I have been reading about what is going on in Canada from Americans has the same underlying message - "I thought Canada was better than that but they are just as wretched as we are" - to which I have only one response - I did not vote for Harper - I voted NDP - therefore, I can still hold my head high.
Honest John says: That the poor disoriented man was tasered and killed is horrible and I have read so much about it.
Which of the many taser deaths in the US have you read the most about? Check the above link - Taser is selling their products to Americans for domestic use - Americans are holding Taser parties. If there are no witnesses, whose to say that those good ol' boys in Texas actually had a taser party involving a rubby or a Mexican or whether the poor soul just had a heart attack and died alone? You get a bunch of Texas boys still living at home because the jobs pay so little - they got lots and lots of frustration to vent - and they are just looking for an innocent bistander to vent it on.
Honest John says: A sadist would WANT to use the equipment…..are taser operators vetted for this abnormality???
I think that one is before one gets one's badge, but this "abnormality" can develop over time with job stress.
In the US they are thinking of selling Tasers to average folk who do not need to be screened for this abnormality before purchasing one. And during a domestic dispute, when tempers are flaring, one tends to underestimate the harm one is causing the other person any way.
Do you know that increases in farm fortclosures and increases in unemployment are both positively correlated with domestic violence? The Shock Doctrine version of the ancient Boss kicks worker, worker kicks wife, wife kicks son, son kicks dog.
You should read Ms. Klein's book. She's taking a thesis she talks about in great length in a 300-400 page book and shortening it down to a short article.
Sorry if you don't get it or in extreme denial, but torture and economic shocks go hand in hand. That's the point at which Ms. Klein opens here book .... the CIA torture experiments at McGill Univ. She traces those techniques around the world and everytime they show up hand-in-hand with economic shock.
The economic shocks like the one she describes in Poland do not happen with the democratic consent of the people. She starts her book in Argentina and Chile, where democratic governments were overturned by military coups. It took the killing of democracy to begin these economic policies. And the electric shocks are always a part of this. The majority of the people, who are being screwed by the economic policies that only make a few rich, have to be kept in line. Thus, we always, and I repeat ALWAYS, see police officers wielding their favorite electric shock toys to make sure that the people don't object to the fact that they are being screwed and ripped off to make other people rich.
Ms. Klein is dead on point. In this case, this poor man thought he was going towards freedom, only to discover to his horror that places like Canada and the US empower the same sort of police sadists. And it happens for the same reasons here, only the wielding of the power to protect the thieving rich is a bit more subtle here.
Hmmm...who would have thought that a simple op-ed article on the socio-economic tragedies of today's Poland could spawn so much vitriol and divergent discussion. We might sort these issues, then proceed.
Naomi, though you are many years my junior I look to your work as a beacon in journalistic and political darkness. Thank you. Perhaps you might do an article on what seems to be an increase in police 'brutality' in Canada. Here in the great white north we are lightyears behind the US in our ability to turn a blind eye to justice, but under this current right-of-center Harper administration we are doing our best to descend the slippery slope. Frightening.
To quote an insightful American, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." Martin Luther King
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you have to admit that one of the main reasons your unemployment has come down is people fleeing your country for jobs
Naomi, please lay off the self promotion, which is what this comes across as and it cheapens the terrific book you've written. Yes I've read it and I'm rereading it. I'm finding through making notes and comparisons with world events in the last 60 years in particular it definitely fills in many missing or deliberately concealed events. Events that have steered the course of our recent history worldwide and provides a context for current and future events that is at the very least, unsettling.
In the matter of what was done to Robert Dziekanski, this is a travesty that needs direct attention in and of itself and making Mr. Dziekanski disappear into the institution of this 'shock doctrine' is every bit as criminal as all of the others that have 'disappeared'.
THIS MAN's life and THIS MAN's hopes and THIS MAN's family and the loss of everything THIS MAN was to the world should not be allowed to disappear into 'a series of events' or 'the system' or a 'doctrine'. Robert Dziekanski should be on posters the size of office towers the world over as a rallying point against the new global economic order that elevates only the top 0.1% while systematically crushing the lives of everyone else.
Governments the world over need to be reminded whom they serve, by any means necessary.
thanks for the illuminating discussion on the book. I have a clearer idea of it all the time.
as I refuse to purchase much of anything at the moment I may read it when it's free if it stays current.
A brilliant friend of mine who relates to the book wrote this in 2005, so I hope he doesn't mind my quoting it:
"The sole danger then for those who are the most comfortable today, is the possibility that a majority of individuals might become less than enamored with this status quo arrangement and seek to take the action (positive) necessary to change it. Since in-action (negative) on the part of a majority is now synonymous with the existence of status quo social order, the cost of its efficient implementation within society achieves certain economic value. A cost "those who possess the economic clout" can well afford and are happy to pay in a desperate attempt for self-preservation."
Blaine Whittle
Copyright 9/7/05
The moles will be decorating their posts with emoticons and red ink next. Tip for moles: it's not the amount of words used that make an impression, but the idea which the words elucidate.
stinger, that is the way things get done in Canada. People ask, during conversations of Maher Arar, how many in the US this has happened to and we don't know it. The only reason we know what happened is because Maher Arar allowed himself to be used as a poster boy for this.
The only way we will ever deal with this Taser issue (as far as Police and RCMP go) and stop Taser from selling its product to civilians in Canada is for Robert Dziekanski's name to get worked into articles of people with millions of interested readers. The only way we will ever get to the bottom of this is if, with every new Taser death (like the one today in Nova Scotia), Robert Dziekanski's name gets mentioned.
On a related topic, the Crown is giving its closing statement in the Robert Pickton case today. It is no accident that Pickton chose as his victims the most marginalized people of our society. Many police officers were reluctant to search for missing sex-trade workers because these people are considered to be expendible. Lets be glad that Tasers were not for public consumption in Canada at the time when Pickton was doing his dirty work. If they were, missionary would have been as dangerous as doggie style!
Crown=District Attorney
How easy is it for the average American to walk into a store and purchase a Taser?
Pauline VanKoll knew a few of Pickton's victims. She used to be a sex trade worker before becoming a reporter.
http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/2007/02/022507_1.html
What other groups of people are looked at as expendable besides sex trade workers? The immigrant who can't speak english? The homeless person? Protesters?
Vaudree, I will attempt an answer for you.
Robert Dziekanski's flight was international and thus the agreed meeting place, the luggage carousel, was unfortunately inside the restricted Custom's area.
I think what makes Dziekanski's death so poignant to the majority of Canadians is that had the meeting place been outside of customs the world would never have heard of Robert Dziekanski or his mother. They would have met and been on their way to a new life. Canadians view Canada as a calm, peaceful, hospitable country that has historically always welcomed immigrants; police are (or were) viewed as protectors, not thugs to be feared. Thus the long sequence of scandal, corruption and abuse from and within the RCMP has now come to a head with Robert Dziekanski as the icon of that frustration and anger.
You ask "What other groups of people are looked at as expendable besides sex trade workers? The immigrant who can't speak English? The homeless person? Protesters?"
I think as Canada slides to the Right Wing that something I call Binary Impairment Syndrome comes into play. Extremes of Right filter everything through a good-evil, black-white lens. The more Right it gets the less nuance is allowed and thus you have the silly binary affectations like "Canada's New Government" and moronic expressions like "if you are not for us, you are against us".
It is also common with the Right Wing to blame the victim, so if the RCMP is obviously good then Dziekanski must obviously be bad and got just what he deserved. A classic example of blame the victim can be seen from Harper's immediate response to Major Hess-von Kruedener, a Canadian UN observer in a shell resistant fortified bunker standing alone on a hilltop that was hit by an accurate to 1 meter laser guided bunker buster from an Israeli warplane. The "accident" was blamed on an old Israel military map even though the 4 storey building emblazoned with UN markings had stood there alone for decades.
"What was he doing there?" was Harper's immediate response to the news. His job, you empathy lacking Right Wing moron.
So to answer your question Vaudree, as Canada slides Right who becomes expendable? Well, clearly, eventually anyone who is not one of us, the Right. Unfortunately, although not all Right-Wingers are ignorant, most ignorant people in Canada vote Right and that represents a large voting pool. Unless Canada can rid itself of this latest government it is only going to get worse. Sorry.
I guess it is Thanksgiving here in the USA, and this sad little piece lingers at the top of CD's list, what with all good folks celebrating the generocity of native Americans (I by the way live by and work on a Res and notice that even they, for some reason best known to themselves celebrate this tragic event, much the same way the British almost celebrate the 4th of July).
I had a chance to look at some of the posts which occured since yesterday, when I last wrote on this wothy forum. I was both congratulated for rising bravely in defence of Poland and derided for inaccuracy and cofusion in my statements.
In response to both, let me say this (& I am not a collector of statistics, this is just vaguely recollected stuff): A (certain, large enough) percentage of British people belive that Mt. Everest is locaceted in Britain. An even larger percentage belive that it is located somewhwere in Europe (BBC a few days ago).
The kind of information people have about Poland is mired in prejudice, falsely created images, lazy research by authoritative writers, and biased propargandists. Poland is not a tragic, stricken land. I am not Polish myself, but I have travelled there, speak the language (somewhat), and have some appreeciatin of its history and culture. |I also have a habit of rooting for unappreciated cultures and issues. Lets not spread more misinformation. The Czechoslovak Brothers and Borat should belong to our distant past.
(BTW there is not 40% unemployment among Polish youth, Dziekanowski was middle aged, and emigration has a minimal effect on a coutry's unemployment rate)
vaudree November 21st, 2007 6:00 pm
annemarie j, you are looking at it as an isolated incident rather than a brick in a bigger picture of events. It is not just about punishing these cops but about preventing future results. And, for Naomi, it is not just about the safety tasers or police brutality but the brutality of Corporatism.
What were the names of those people who broke machines during the industrial revolution because they felt the machines were destroying their livelihoods during the Industrial Revolution in England? I assure you that there became stronger laws to protect machines than humans during that time period.
It is the same pattern happening here - or starting to happen.
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No, I was not looking at that incident in isolation. That's not something I typically do btw. I wholeheartedly believe in prevention, and in this case specifically as preventing future incidents of police brutality. Which is why I said that those cops should be charged with manslaughter or murder. Surely that sort of precedent could put all police/law enforcement officers on notice, and go a long way towards prevention? That's how I see it. However, I'm not holding my breath given how much police brutality is routine and how even when police are caught red-handed abusing citizens they are rarely-to-never held accountable for their actions/crimes. Above the law is what it's called.
I also get Klein's take on the brutality of corporatism. Nevertheless, the fact remains that I'm skeptical of Klein, specifically her complete motivations, in other words, her integrity. That is why I also provided this link above
http://www.bestcyrano.org/THOMASPAINE/?p=429#comment-7815
It's a review in which the writer loudly wonders why Klein skims over 9/11 in stark contrast to how she treats other shocking, catalyzing events. Here's an excerpt:
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I have been bewildered by a singular stochastic perspective of Naomi Klein in her brilliant, exhaustive, superbly-documented book The Shock Doctrine. In it Klein builds an intricate and convincing case for the use of various techniques of trauma applied to societies and individuals during the twentieth century and continuing into the current moment for the purpose of perpetrating what has become one of her hallmark phrases, "disaster capitalism" Yet two pages in the book left me aghast. The first is Pages 11-12 which refer to September 11, 2001 and state:
The Bush team seized the moment of collective vertigo with chilling speed-not, as some have claimed, because the administration deviously plotted the crisis but because the key figures of the administration, veterans of earlier disaster capitalism experiments in Latin America and Eastern Europe, were part of a movement that prays for crisis the way drought-struck farmers pray for rain, and the way Christian-Zionist end-timers pray for the Rapture.
After hearing endless interviews of Klein and reading numerous articles about the book when it first hit the stores in September, and being very familiar with the disaster capitalism thesis, the above quote from the book's first pages were astonishing in their inconsistency with nearly every other page of the book.
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For the record, I'm not advocating dismissing Klein or her work entirely. That's not my point or position as I'm not in the habit of tossing the baby with the bath water. What I'm expressing is this: that by virture of her connections, familial and otherwise, that by virtue of her popularity and success, that by virtue of her position and career, that Klein is a de facto part of the "elite", the mainstream. She's a professional journalist and author and is getting fat on her work. Yes? No problem there. However, by virtue of the fact that Klein regards 9/11 as 'they didn't do it, rather they allowed it to happen and then exploited it' makes me doubt her integrity, her trustworthiness.
These words of Klein's are jaw-dropping unbelievable to me: "The Bush team seized the moment of collective vertigo with chilling speed-not, as some have claimed, because the administration deviously plotted the crisis but because the key figures of the administration, veterans of earlier disaster capitalism experiments in Latin America and Eastern Europe, were part of a movement that prays for crisis the way drought-struck farmers pray for rain, and the way Christian-Zionist end-timers pray for the Rapture."
And then this from the review:
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With respect to 9/11, Klein's incisive grasp of disaster capitalism's brilliantly devised, superbly-engineered machinations alongside her stochastic insistence that the administration did not deviously plot the catastrophe defies all logic. By Page 400, the reader has digested an encyclopedia of conspiracies carried out by a series of U.S. administrations of both political parties, but on Page 426 is nevertheless asked to believe that 9/11 "just happened".
On that page comes the most breathtaking statement of all-that quote to which I promised to return. Arguing that the U.S. government did not have a hand in the attacks, Klein states:
The truth is at once less sinister and more dangerous. An economic system that requires constant growth, while bucking almost all serious attempts at environmental regulation, generates a steady stream of disasters all on its own, whether military, ecological or financial.
I could not agree with Klein more in terms of economies based on growth generating a steady stream of disasters, but 9/11 is a bit more than a few molecules in a "steady stream." It was and is the defining moment in the history of disaster capitalism.
The truth of 9/11, says Klein is "less sinister, and more dangerous"? What could be more dangerous than the U.S. government orchestrating the attacks in order to achieve all of the motivations that Klein has so incisively and painstakingly explained? After 425 pages of unrelenting recitations of bona fide conspiracy, I am asked to swallow the stochastic non-analysis of a steady stream in which 9/11 just happened to rear its ugly head?
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So now I'd like to ask can any other fans/readers of The Shock Doctrine explain how Klein dropped the ball regarding 9/11? Surely it can't be an *oversight*?!?
Honestly, I cannot give the time of day to well connected, well established, otherwise intelligent and otherwise truth-telling writers, journalists, authors, et al... who only tiptoe towards the full truth of what really happened on that fateful day, or who won't dare risk reputation, career or even discomfort to publicly acknowledge that 9/11 was another in a long series of false flag events.
So to me, Klein seems to be just another useful "steam vent", diversion, or distraction, even while she offers some truths to the rest of us, the hoi polloi. As a result, I simply cannot regard her as a radical truth teller/seeker.
Almost forgot, I stand by my earlier "depressing and moronic" comment heheheh about how Naomi Klein's just pimping her book. ;)
Finally, I believe those people whom vaudree was asking about were/are called Luddites. And the elite have always regarded the rest of us as mere cattle, serfs, slaves, or cannon fodder whether or not we embrace or reject technology, etc... This is not a new phenomenon.
kelmer wrote: "You know, I dont really see a connection between police tasers and shock doctrine."
In a civilised system designed for humans, not global corporations, we perhaps could treat all humans with equal respect and when they are in difficulty we would try to understand and solve these difficulties with compassion.
However, to maintain a system that treats humanity as the flotsam and jetsam tossed on the tides of corporate greed, and creates massive hardships for innumerable people just like ourselves, treating those sufferings as merely further business opportunities; to maintain that system it requires people to see other people as something not deserving of understanding or compassion. It requires police with tazers, batons and teargas; it requires Schools of the Americas to train thugs in torture. It requires bombers and satellites to guide the bombs. It requires compliant dictators, election fraud, and regime changes. But most of all, it requires millions of Joes and Janes doing their jobs, earning their bread, paying their taxes, minding their own business, accepting what they are told, and NOT giving a damn as long as they think the tyranny does not touch them.
No it does not touch them. Because as they accept the inhumanity, they ARE the tyranny.
So you don't see the connection when an agent of authority, in a situation under their control, kills the very person who needs their help most, unintentionally or otherwise, because they saw that person as a threat? They were just doing their job in our complex and developed CIVILISED system, I guess.
We have had it .......... what do you think we can do anymore?
Mr. Freeze, please seek anger management therapy
Taser = torture. If it's used as a method of torture at gitmo on the nads, then pushing near lethal, high voltage/low amperes electrons through human cells for compliance in an airport is wrong. Period. In fact it's unconstitutional in the U.S. It constitutes cruel and unusual punishment and I'm ashamed of my fellow Americans who condone this kind of torture.
If a five foot tall 130 lb airport security guard is afraid to do her job and restrain a big distraught passenger humanely with handcuffs until he cools off or gets a translator, then the government is remiss in hiring such a small person to subdue the largest members of society.
This is common sense, but, we live on with senseless forms of government because, why?
That's how it is now done in the United Police States of UnAmerica. What a shameful example to the world are we! It's discusting enough to make one want to side with the Anarchists who claim that it can't be fixed; that we must abolish this type of goverment because of this long train of inhumane abuses.
But the sheeple of the Fatherland will do whatever the SS tells them to; with zero resistance.
The only amendment we have left is the first amendment; and even it is under severe attack.
Never be silent.
Never give up free speech.
vaudree: I lived and worked in Beirut for almost 4 years. That was a long time ago but I occasionally check up on things and I follow any war that starts there more closely. Although reasonably well traveled I was still a teenager when I moved there. It had a profound effect on me and I consider the time there as the most educational and mind opening in my life -an excellent education for putting everything else in perspective and unfortunately rounding out the cynicism rather nicely.
I made a personal point of gathering all the information I could on the Kruedener incident as I could feel something was wrong. For example, the New York Times reported, totally incorrectly, that it was a stray artillery shell that hit the UN post yet it was fortified to withstand those. It was hushed up rather too quickly.
Harper is a cunning opportunist and would definitely pursue the Jewish voting base at the expense of Muslims or Lebanese or of remaining neutral. Although 3 out of 4 Lebanese are Muslim I suspect there are a higher percentage of Christian Lebanese in Canada. I think on balance there is reason to suspect Harper's ideological bias playing a strong role here, plus his total lack of empathy.
We should be grateful for technology like the taser. In 1939, facism had to go to Poland; now it can attack Polish people whereever they go!
"Canada used to be a "gentle" society with an extensive safety net - things change"
It's such a myth. Ask the First Nations people whose heritage has been destroyed by the colonisation of north America and the establishment of Canada. Canada STILL prides itself on being better the native Americans than the USA was and yet it STILL breaks agreements with them, evdn today (The Kelowna Accord worth $5 billion). The history of Canada is the history of brutality towards First Nations.
On Septmeber 13 the UN adopted the Declaration of Indigenous Rights and the only four countries which voted against it were Canada, the U.S., Australia and New Zealand. All four of those countries are ruled exclusively by racist white governments which obtained their control by the expedient of mass murdering a large percentage of the indigenous peoples. The methodology for taking control of territory and resources has changed little since those times and any time you hear of a government initiating privatization then you know for sure the grand larceny has commenced in earnest.
The corporate governments, which are nothing more than organized criminal gangs, are too stupid to comprehend that their days are rapidly coming to an end and so they keep flooding the media with their imbecilic propaganda, like Klein's "shock doctrine" nonsense, in an effort to muddy the thought processes of the general population so that they will never have a clear understanding of the reality. It's why you see their scumbag stooges now posting voluminous material on the internet, not just in forums but also on a profusion of websites, because the more trash they can publish the more they can slow down participation and try to dilute the real contributions.
This just goes to prove the point that if you ask three progressives a question, you'll get five responses.
Whoo boy...
ANNEMARIE: I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis. As to why Klein shuns the obvious, there may still be this morsel of incredulity with respect to what one's government is capable of doing to its own. Katrina was overt racism aided and abetted by nature's unsettled winds (climate change), and compromised priorities (funding for Army Corps Engineers and the levees). I met a lawyer from Berkeley out in Malaysia in 2004 and told him I believed 911 was an inside job. He thought I was an absolute crackpot. I live in North Florida and when I meet men, they are all Republican born-again Christian types... If politics comes up, I mention the 911 inside job aspect and they turn pale. Many of these guys have spent time in one military branch or another, and their loyalty to the nation as an entity carries with it an almost mythical belief in its leadership. Others have elaborated in this forum, the extent to which processing by movies, TV shows, the National anthem, all inculcate a population into thinking its prized, can do no wrong, holds special status given the relative position(s) of other nations. Sometimes people cannot look directly into the abyss... perhaps Naomi takes us to its edge, but herself must pause there to retain a semblance of her own sanity. It's quite paradigm-shifting (and thus requires a strong host) for an individual to recognize what its government is capable of... and worse still, where that puts the individual who to an extent stands at the mercy of said government. WE are there.
PJD, this goes way back in this thread, but I also know that there are many Russian Jews who moved into the Squirrel Hill neighborhood and, as you mentioned Polish Hill is another neighborhood where I have many close friends from my childhood. In fact, Pittsburgh, PA is the only city I have lived in where it is so clear where groups of immigrants have come to live. Of course, San Francisco has the Castro district, but I don't know of any other city where an overwhelming number of immigrants from one country have moved to. I know I'm wrong, but in my experience, this is what I know to be true about one city.
And the name "Polish Hill" isn't used in any derogatory manner; it's simply called Polish Hill because of so many Polish people live there. Again with San Francisco, there's Russian Hill. But you won't find many Russians there today.
Aside from that, it's amazing to me that an International Airport they couldn't make the effort to find some person who spoke this man's language. It's not like he was speaking Inuit or some other obscure language.
What has happened is that we've become a people afraid of our own shadows, thanks to Rove et al. As the nurse pointed out in her post, there are non lethal ways to handle such situations and the police – especially airport security – should be trained in this, that is, if they aren't already.
We've not only become a fearful society, but that fear has lead to a lack of common sense. What purpose did it serve to not allow the mother of this man in to speak with him? Sure there are rules, but these rules are for normal situations. In the extreme situation this man found himself, a little common sense would have gone a long way by bending the rules in this exceptional case.
So, speaking in general, we have become a fearful, less free, domesticated herd which moves in what ever direction the herders tell us to move. For the livestock that gets out of line, there's always the electronic cattle prod to get the strays back in with the herd.
Chicago has always been a center of the livestock industry, where domesticated animals were sent to be clubbed by the knockers and then bled to death before cutting up the remains to be packaged and sent off to where ever. It's symbolic, in a way, of what the American Dream has become.
"Sometimes people cannot look directly into the abyss… perhaps Naomi takes us to its edge, but herself must pause there to retain a semblance of her own sanity."
Agreed, Siouxrose, but sometimes it's not their job to make us look into the abyss, but ours.
If we keep killing our messengers, we'll have no one left to take us anywhere.
Oops!!! Big mistake on location. I have been reading the Iron Heel and thinking about US cities got me thinking of Chicago and O'Hare International.
Somebody shock me to snap me out of it and realize the disease is spreading to good old Canada.