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Anti-Bush Sign Has Bridge World in an Uproar
In the genteel world of bridge, disputes are usually handled quietly and rarely involve issues of national policy. But in a fight reminiscent of the brouhaha over an anti-Bush statement by Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks in 2003, a team of women who represented the United States at the world bridge championships in Shanghai last month is facing sanctions, including a yearlong ban from competition, for a spur-of-the-moment protest.
At issue is a crudely lettered sign, scribbled on the back of a menu, that was held up at an awards dinner and read, "We did not vote for Bush."
By e-mail, angry bridge players have accused the women of "treason" and "sedition."
"This isn't a free-speech issue," said Jan Martel, president of the United States Bridge Federation, the nonprofit group that selects teams for international tournaments. "There isn't any question that private organizations can control the speech of people who represent them."
Not so, said Danny Kleinman, a professional bridge player, teacher and columnist. "If the U.S.B.F. wants to impose conditions of membership that involve curtailment of free speech, then it cannot claim to represent our country in international competition," he said by e-mail.
Ms. Martel said the action by the team, which had won the Venice Cup, the women's title, at the Shanghai event, could cost the federation corporate sponsors.
The players have been stunned by the reaction to what they saw as a spontaneous gesture, "a moment of levity," said Gail Greenberg, the team's nonplaying captain and winner of 11 world championships.
"What we were trying to say, not to Americans but to our friends from other countries, was that we understand that they are questioning and critical of what our country is doing these days, and we want you to know that we, too, are critical," Ms. Greenberg said, stressing that she was speaking for herself and not her six teammates.
The controversy has gone global, with the French team offering support for its American counterparts.
"By trying to address these issues in a nonviolent, nonthreatening and lighthearted manner," the French team wrote in by e-mail to the federation's board and others, "you were doing only what women of the world have always tried to do when opposing the folly of men who have lost their perspective of reality."
The proposed sanctions would hurt the team's playing members financially. "I earn my living from bridge, and a substantial part of that from being hired to compete in high-level competitions," Debbie Rosenberg, a team member, said. "So being barred would directly affect much of my ability to earn a living."
A hearing is scheduled this month in San Francisco, where thousands of players will be gathered for the Fall North American Bridge Championships. It will determine whether displaying the sign constitutes conduct unbecoming a federation member.
Three players- Hansa Narasimhan, JoAnna Stansby and Jill Meyers - have expressed regret that the action offended some people. The federation has proposed a settlement to Ms. Greenberg and the three other players, Jill Levin, Irina Levitina and Ms. Rosenberg, who have not made any mollifying statements.
It calls for a one-year suspension from federation events, including the World Bridge Olympiad next year in Beijing; a one-year probation after that suspension; 200 hours of community service "that furthers the interests of organized bridge"; and an apology drafted by the federation's lawyer.
It would also require them to write a statement telling "who broached the idea of displaying the sign, when the idea was adopted, etc."
Alan Falk, a lawyer for the federation, wrote the four team members on Nov. 6, "I am instructed to press for greater sanction against anyone who rejects this compromise offer."
Ms. Greenberg said she decided to put up the sign in response to questions from players from other countries about American interrogation techniques, the war in Iraq and other foreign policy issues.
"There was a lot of anti-Bush feeling, questioning of our Iraq policy and about torture," Ms. Greenberg said. "I can't tell you it was an overwhelming amount, but there were several specific comments, and there wasn't the same warmth you usually feel at these events."
Ms. Rosenberg said the team members intended the sign as a personal statement that demonstrated American values and noted that it was held up at the same time some team members were singing along to "The Star-Spangled Banner" and waving small American flags.
"Freedom to express dissent against our leaders has traditionally been a core American value," she wrote by e-mail. "Unfortunately, the Bush brand of patriotism, where criticizing Bush means you are a traitor, seems to have penetrated a significant minority of U.S. bridge players."
Through a spokesman, the other team members declined to discuss the matter. Ms. Narasimhan, Ms. Stansby and Ms. Meyers have been offered a different settlement agreement, but Ms. Martel declined to discuss it in detail.
Many of those offended by the sign do not consider the expressions of regret sufficient. "I think an apology is kind of specious," said Jim Kirkham, who has played in several bridge championships. "It's not that I don't forgive them, but I still think they should be punished."
Mr. Kirkham sits on the board of the American Contract Bridge League, which accounts for a substantial portion of the federation's financing, Ms. Martel said, and has submitted a proposal that would cut the league's support for the federation, one of two such proposals pending.
Robert S. Wolff, one of the country's pre-eminent bridge players, who has served as an executive and board member of several bridge organizations, said that he understood that the women might have had a legal right to do what they did but that they had offended many people.
"While I believe in the right to free speech, to me that doesn't give anyone the right to criticize one's leader at a foreign venue in a totally nonpolitical event," he wrote by e-mail.
David L. Anderson, a bridge player who supports the team, said it was common to see players at international tournaments sporting buttons bearing the date "1-20-09," when George W. Bush will hand off to a new president, as well as buttons reading "Support Our Troops."
"They don't go after those people," Mr. Anderson said.
© 2007 The New York Times



164 Comments so far
Show All"...said Jim Kirkham, who has played in several bridge championships. "It's not that I don't forgive them, but I still think they should be punished."
Well I think a bit of waterboarding is in order to get to the bottom of this horrendous egregious crime...Jim will have to get to work and change the Articles of Association for American Bridge players to include a bit of torture..Cheney said a dunk in the water wouldn't hurt anyone..So why not?
PS: Pol Pot in the 70's in Cambodia did it for entertainment...
I didn't vote for the nimrod either, and I am remembering all the vitriol that was endured by those who supported president Clinton by the "do as I say, not as I do" Republicans.
As a matter of fact, not as many people voted for him as voted for someone else. In fact, not all of the people that we were told had voted for him actually did vote for him either.
Ooooh nice goat...hmmm, pretty sounding bell....
WAKE UP!
Oh wait, you all are awake, it's the republicans who are sleeping.
Wonderful. I hope more and more people stop being ascared to expess independent thought. Those that call us traitors are just small minded, fearfull, cowardly bullies. Come on America, we really can change things. All it will take is small gestures like this. The key is, we all have to do it. I'd like to see the day when these pathetic, unAmerican freaks can't turn around without seeing or hearing dissent. We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
PC, PC, PC!!! Remember, If you think for yourself, keep it to yourself. Any independent thought, publicly expressed, may well cost you, financially and perhaps physically.
Always remember, the Bill of Rights is now an interesting historical relic, soon to be expunged from memory along with its parent document, the Constitution of the United States. You may read copies, but do not speak of them in public places. At this juncture in our history, about 60-70% of the people won't know what you are referring to and about 25% will consider it subversive. The remaining 5% will remember with sorrow and nostalgia what the United States of America once represented.
American Sheeple, follow the nice goat with the bell. You will find peace and contentment in the paradise that awaits you beyond the door. Follow the goat...follow the goat...follow the goat...
I love this news story!
"Ms. Martel said the action by the team, which had won the Venice Cup, the women's title, at the Shanghai event, could cost the federation corporate sponsors."
Aha! This says it all. We're not about america, democracy, or anything else but putting a smiley face on corporations. We're all in the system, unfortunately, but am still grateful for those who go outside the box. Congratulations, ladies, this voter supports you.
oops....women behaving badly
Good GRIEF!!!!!
I just want to know - people who freak out about those of us who dislike Bush&Co. actually expressing that dislike - did/do they just LOVE Clinton?! Did/do they always speak kindly of him?!
What hypocrisy. Talk about un-American activity - you can't think/say anything that's different from the "party" line or, if you do, it's off with your head! It seems that we're turning into what we most profess to hate - dictatorships, Communist regimes, and the like.
When the Dixie Chicks expressed their opinion (or at least Natalie's) in England about Dubya, they were scorned AND threatened. Now, a great portion of country music (both industry and fans) has finally come around to their way of thinking.
It's a sad day in America and for Americans when opinions can't be expressed freely.
The Smirk, who parroted a 'uniter, not a divider' bit during the 2000 selection, has managed to divide Americans even to this level
how is telling people whom you voted for or didnt vote for and act of treason? i think more people need to inform the outside world that noone voted for this dictator. we don't want them to compare us to the germans during hitler.
And another thing:
Ladies, tell 'em to go take a flying leap.
Freedom of speech!
Last year when I was in Europe I had to tell at least one person per day that more than half of us Americans don't approve of, and did not vote for, the bonehead Bush. Hey, maybe it's not much, but I don't stand behind someone "right or wrong" if they are wrong just because he's president.
Especially when he stole the office and the shoeple didn't care enough to protest. And nothing will change as long as the shoeple still have their: Dancing with the house, survivor, stars...
I am delighted to read this because the very thought of a women's bridge team making such a tasteful, albeit tenuous statement of solidarity with their international counterparts makes my heart sing. It is the quintessential manifestation of just how deep into the fabric of our citizens, the real rebellion goes.
Celebrate folks! If champion bridge player are courageous enough to speak out, surely we can in our own areans. One mighty voice from one end of this land to another.
Just went back and read the article more fully and closely and now I am feeling a sense of the chilling reality that the official resposne to this has provoked in me. All I can think is, " It is getting really bad, folks."
Such strong armed tactics against these women for such timorous dissent.... chilling indeed!
hereontheres---- I found that statement about corporate backers telling as well and abit amusing that it was spoken aloud. The naivete of the spokesperson, Ms Matal, so eager to expose such a crass explanation for the rebuke....it was like a massive Fruedian slip. She didn't even pretend to be disturbed by politicizing auch a genteel event. Hahahahaha. I love it!
Go Natalie!
Absolutely incredible. How can these people bristle at comparisons to Nazi Germany?
Unbelievable. Renders one speechless.
Just what, exactly, does "feedom of speech" mean to these self-proclaimed patriots who demand punishment for a group of smart and politically aware American bridge masters?
There is a very wise Russian joke: "Sure, we have freedom of speech, too. You can say whatever you want from inside the jail cell."
Wolff said, "While I believe in the right to free speech, to me that doesn't give anyone the right to criticize one's leader at a foreign venue in a totally nonpolitical event."
What? This guy is a bridge master with such a limited mind?
Authoritarianism and democracy are absolutely mutually exclusive. We are a democracy.
None of these women should issue an apology or accept any punishment whatsoever without a legal battle.
The apology should come from Bush and all his enablers that have participated in what is sure to be known as one of the absolute worst blunders in American history -- this immoral, murderous and pillaging War in Iraq and War on Terror more generally.
Just as we've been asking "how could the German citizens have supported Hitler" -- future generations will be asking "what in God's name were they thinking re-electing monkey boy and continuing to support the War in Iraq?"
I'm no expert on bridge, but doesn't Mr. Bush make the ideal dummy? Surely, these women are onto something.
Anyone who supports Bush and Cheney at this point is supporting torture, secrecy, lying, terrorism, etc. This administration has ruined America and all it stands for. We must reject them on every front. Every little bit counts. Hurrah for the bridge players!
This is the most news bridge has ever gotten. They should be elated to be in the spotlight. BTW. I did not vote for Bush either!
Amazing and would be humorous except for lost income. If they are in trouble, so should all the other participants who complained about Bush and our policies to these women.
As a bridge player, I think that that all the critics of these women have 'reneged' on the principles(now former, i guess) of free speech.
Fantastic, ladies! Maybe this will encourage other like-minded players to speak their minds at international tournaments, and also to encourage younger people to enter what is now a slowly dying activity.
Hmmm... This happened in Shanghai. This will show those Chinese commies what American free speech is all about --- If you criticize your country's leader, you will be considered a traitor.
I can honestly say that I never imagined a dispute over political speech would break out at a bridge competition. When I saw this headline I thought the article dealt with anti-Bush signs posted to structural bridges.
Everything is political these days. Honestly, everything always was political but it's only now that this fact is painfully obvious. And, it's great to see. Bushies desperately want some sort of escape, some refuge where they can comfortably stick their heads in the sand and not have to contemplate the consequences of their Dear Leader's behavior. It's up to us to prevent them from finding such a refuge.
From a free speech standpoint, these women are completely right. From a practical standpoint, it might have been better to state "We do not support torture" or some such; no one could argue with that.
Nevertheless, as with all of these uproars over anti-Bush statements, one should ask: would the criticism and threatened sanctions be as acute or even occur at all had they said "We DID vote for Bush and we support him"? I have my doubts.
The hysteria promoted by the NY Times over this is reminicent of the Cold War. So the United States Bridge Federation supports the Iraqi Holocaust and the destruction of civil liberties and finds opposition to such policies as "specious" and that stating how one voted "offended many people." I wonder if these detractors understand how un-American and pro-authoritarian they sound?
I would think the fallout from this is that many bridge players will desert their corporate organizations and form ones of their own based on democratic principles.
this world needs more bridge players !bravo,ladies !!
Geez, you'd think that the gals had held up a "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" sign.
And the finger-wagging "compromise" offered by the attorney is insulting at best; I certainly hope that the ladies stick to their guns, and don't break down and beg for forgiveness like "Don't Tase Me, Bro!" Myers did.
And a pox on those who weigh in with that insufferable, patronizing maxim about there being "a time and a place for everything". This was as good a place as any to declare a Free Speech Zone, and the women get extra points for style. More like this, please!
Robert Wolf states that "While I believe in the right to free speech, to me that doesn't give anyone the right to criticize one's leader at a foreign venue in a totally nonpolitical event," he overlooks an important fact. Nothing takes away a person's right to criticize one's leader either. Rights are not the property of a private organization despite what Wolff and Jan Martel may think. They don't own the First Amendment and they don't own their members' beliefs. Shame on them both.
The American people should be thankful that these women were brave enough to tell the world that not all the US populace agrees with the actions of their goverment. Punishing them it ridiculous. Disgusting.
LMFAO
"A hearing is scheduled this month in San Francisco, where thousands of players will be gathered for the Fall North American Bridge Championships. It will determine whether displaying the sign constitutes conduct unbecoming a federation member."
Hey Cindi - how about you make an appearance at the hearing?! Man o man would that be great PR?! Hey Code Pink, can you get some supporters out there.
Way to go bridge ladies! I've always wanted to learn to play. Can you come to Iowa and teach me? I'll even have special decks of cards made up that say IMPEACH CHENEY!
Pretty please with 4 diamonds on top?
"Ms. Martel said the action by the team, which had won the Venice Cup, the women's title, at the Shanghai event, could cost the federation corporate sponsors."
Is there any doubt that the federation, the Dems, union leadership and the entire world is under corporate-fascist rule? Why not beat them at them at their own game by incorporating We the People into the largest, richest, greenest, most socially responsible and most powerful corporation, answerable to it's stockholding and dividend receiving public?
You go grrrrrls!!!!!
Robert Wolf is an idiot ... oh, and so is Bush!
Nobody should have to back down when expressing their TRUE opnions. It's still in the Constitution (I think, I hope).
I am a liberal who loves her country - and I am PROUD of these women for exercising their rights. As for the man who said 'they should be punished' (probably a little excited at the thought of spanking these ladies), I suspect he went home, stuck his head in the vise and said to his wife, "Crank it up a little tighter, Mable: I feel an independent thought coming on!"
Dang I'm funny, but really - I'm PROUD of all Americans who speak up out of intelligence, thought and conviction. I just happen to agree with these women.
Peace. Out.
Turn the bad seed parent group into a pinochle association (fighting words-right?
Well you can come after me with litigation, arrest warrants and sharp-edged playing cards).
It is getting hard to find a distinction between opposing Bush and being a citizen of the world.
I understand the feeling being a many time traveler overseas as recent as this year whenever as an american and world citizen I knew I was an unconscious ambassador and rep in some sort of way and that vibe from 25 years ago to now is quite different as I feel like whenever I tell people where I come from when overseas I get a chill and at times a mini discussion on our terrible presidente to the point I feel the whole world pressing on my shoulders in disgust and sadness that I am representing. It sucks, everyone sees america as a dangerous global threat and that includes the people indigenous to there as well so I feel what these women did so much but banning them??? How immature! Where is the bridge association that puts this competition based out of? China don't take kindly to free speech but the west is all for it, if this was the work of an american association they need to be handed the bill of rights fast!
The act of the US Bridge team reminds me of the "Silent Gesture" of two U.S. medal-winning sprinters, Tommie Smith and John Carlos, during the summer Olympics in Mexico in 1968. They shook up America with a silent protest, holding fists in the air while on the winners' stand as the "Star Spangled Banner" was being played on the stadium loudspeakers.
Smith explains why he thought it was important to bring the struggles of black Americans to the world stage: "There's so many things that happened preceding that stand, different social inequalities, and I was asked by those who were responsible in many parts to act responsibly as a young black athlete." Some thought Smith was part of the militant Black Panthers. But he was actually part a group called The Olympic Project for Human Rights, which had considered a boycott of the Olympics. What was it he and Carlos were trying to accomplish? "Getting rid of social inequality (and transforming it) to social equity," Smith said. Smith said he was actually afraid he would be assassinated on the spot. "Everywhere I went, it seemed that I would be harmed in some way, because of the magnitude of the stand and what we believed in, in terms of human rights."
The gesture was perceived by many at the time as disrespectful and unpatriotic. Smith and Carlos wore black gloves, black scarves and black socks. "These were symbols," Smith said. "And I think people remember symbols much more than anything else. We didn't have time to talk, because we were on the victory stand, but the hand (fist gesture) didn't represent so much black power as it did just power, social power, social equity."
Smith added that he has "no regrets at all," for what he and Carlos did. What Smith and Carlos did was the expression of their stand against an evil apartheid system and they did it AT ANY COST. They never regretted for their action.
In contrast to the above, the members of the US Bridge team by writing that they did not vote for Bush are trying to avoid their responsibility as Americans with regard to the American genocidal activities throughout the world. Their action is not a PROTEST against their evil and monstrous government, but like Roman governor Pilate these players through their action WASHED THEIR HANDS OF INNOCENT BLOOD. Unlike Smith and Carlos, they were not prepared to pay the COST for their action. That is why three players expressed REGRET for their action. They did not want to pay with their PERSONAL COMFORT. Their first action was only a reaction to how they were treated. Their REGRET is again the same: it costs them.
THEREFORE, IT IS EVIDENT THAT THE ISSUE THAT PROMPTED THEIR FIRST ACTION IS NOT THE GENOCIDAL ACTIVITIES OF THE US, BUT THEIR DISCOMFORT. THEY ARE NOT OPPOSING THE US ACTIVITIES AND POLICIES THROUGH THEIR ACTION. IN ESSENCE IT IS THEIR SELFISHNESS THAT PROMPTED THEIR ACTION AND THE REGRET.
The contrast between the action of Tommy Smith and Carlos, and that of the US Bridge players is very evident. One is selflessness that was prepared to pay any cost to oppose an evil system and the other selfishness that wants to HAVE PERSONAL BENEFIT at any cost. The latter is not concerned about the human rights of the OTHER.
You have to love the Bush followers, no expressions of your own personal thoughts unless of course it follows the party lines.
Now I know why I am no longer a Republican.
It's not only cool but "in" to show disdain for bush, it's everywhere so what they did was commonly normal, If I had the time I would hike to the north pole and plant an american flag that said Impeach (u know who, his name makes me puke)
America, you buffoon! If your completely selfish actions were not so destructive to the rest of us, as a nation you would be the laughiong stock of the world. You are ridiculous - a real buffoon!
Here's an example of more courage seen in these women than in the government.
Saying she did not vote for Bush is not an opinion but rather a statement of fact. Is there a law that says you can't state how you voted?
Oh that's right, logic and facts don't matter to this administration and their supporters. Sorry, my mistake.
First they came for the bridge players, but I was not a bridge player, so I did not speak out....
In case anyone has forgotten, in totalitarian dictatorships, people have the right to say wonderful things about their leaders, but not criticize them. The whole point of freedom of speech is the right to criticize the government and its leaders. There are no restrictions on this.
Bottom line: we no longer live in a democracy. There is no more free speech. The bill of rights is just about dead. Get used to it or fight it.
When the Democrats take over both Congress and the White House, ALL Neocons and Republicans should be arrested (MAYBE given a trial. Not they deserve one. After all, Neo-cons and Republicans support Americans being shipped overseas to be tortured in addition to arresting foreigners and torturing them indefinitely without a trial for them) for treason - on the grounds of agreeing and promoting that ideology and/or implementing it. Please do this Americans. Granted it will be a few million people but they honestly deserve the same treatment that they would never think twice about giving to others - including other Americans who disagree with their f***up way of thinking. There is nothing to be ashamed of in punishing both Neo-cons and Republicans if "liberals" take over the USA. Political cleansing has happened throughout History in many countries throughout the world. However, in regards to Neo-cons and Republicans this cleansing is something THEY RIGHTFULLY DESERVE! One does not need a degree from College to come to this conclusion as it is quite obvious. In case it is not obvious to some How about making the USA go in debt through their deliberate organization of mass murder, and not being loyal to the USA Constitution?
No need to stick up for them as a way of being moral. I mean...has a Neo-con ever stood up and defended a liberal for exercising rights of Americans? Didn't think so. In fact, some Neo-cons agree with the idea of arresting Americans for exercising their rights. Let us not forget that Republicans during the 1950s launched a witch hunt against Communist Americans. They arrested and in some cases executed Americans for being Communists. Today, the Republicans are planning or implementing witch hunts against Muslims and those who do not adopt their way of thinking. Neo-cons and Republicans have fired scientists for discoveries contrary to Republican/Neo-con ideology. There are so many reasons why ALL Republicans and Neo-cons should be arrested for treason that it would comprise a novel.
Can't see the forest for the trees. Seems like these debunkers are so intent on not compromising their "status", that when a legitimate and seemingly innocent statement opens Pandora's box, they go ballistic. Picking on such trivialities belies the greater threat that compromises our freedom of speech.
Interesting that this simple little protest took place in Shanghai. If the Chinese team had held up a similar sign showing non-support for their leaders we all know what would have happened to them.
Is this what the Bushies really want? Americans here at home to be cowed into silence by the powers of a totalitarian Police State...just like in China?
Thank you, ladies! It is too bad that certain members of our government lack even a fraction of your courage.
I still think Roseanne Barr singing the star-spangled banner was the best.
Too bad there are so many women out there who voted for Bush. After
Ronald Raygun, it was a given white males prefer idiots, but come on.
Working and middle class women voted for Bush? Hello, equal opportunity-
equal pay still worth fighting for is it not? Look what the "federation" \
is holding over the professional female card players-- their pay check.
Put the blame were it belongs. People in America who support
bridge are "genteel"-- Ha. Then again, I bet an anti-Bush sign at one
of those American cage-fight contests would have a negative effect too!
Maybe there needs to be a cage-fight /bridge hybrid. Did you
know Warner Bros got a cage-fighter to promote their film 300?!
You know, the one about "good" Spartans killing "bad" Persians...
I mean, hell, if sponsors can do that kind of thing, what the hell is a little
paper protest sign? What people need to do is think "out of the box" and help
these women out with some plugs on TV supporting the next big movie about
card playing, socialites, or martinis! I bet a bridge champ could sell Gin.
I mean, if Charlie Rose (PBS) will take sponsorship from Coca Cola, why can't
a international bridge champion sell mixed nuts? Oh, wait. Can I say that?
Oprah sponsors political candidates, why not professional women's bridge?
really, I'm serious....
What if people demanded the names of the American Bridge Federations
corporate sponsors and put the charge to the corporate sponsor: "Dude,
are you really going to back out over something as chic and hip as saying,
"we didn't vote for bush"? Come on, the polls are out:
The majority of Americans would really like Bush and Cheney to retire.
Americans need not forget where their power rest in contemporary US of A:
Consumerism You boycott the sponsors that boycott the players.
More people think Bush is an idiot than think he deserves a gilded statute of
himself standing on a aircraft carrier....
Speaking of aircraft carriers, did you here about the Chinese attack submarine
popping up in the middle of a US Naval exercises in the Pacific? Popped up right
next to the USS Kitty Hawk .... think they had a sign saying,
"we didn't vote in favor of your naval exercises off our coast"?
later days,
Rob
casual_jabber@yahoo.com
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The political beliefs and actions by the bridge players turned that group of mingers into a group of BPILFs for me.
Plaza,
I love your post. Likening an entire continent to a goofy adjective. Great stuff.
9/11 was like a wet dream blank check for all the most regressive right wing policies all the marginal kooks could dust off.
I do wonder what it will take to restore belief in the direction of the country again. Maybe the passing of the right, the slow migration of the Dems back to the left if they gain the White House.
Things are never as bad as they seem in the worst times, nor as good in times of bounty. Yes, I am trying to take Maya Angelou's job.
Seriously, now, it's hard to believe this chapter in American history is anything but an aberration when it comes to these fascist strains that have crept in since 9/11.
The real scandal of this whole thing is that, relatively speaking, 9/11 was not all that terrible an event when compared to the recent histories of most nations. We enjoyed a tranquil isolation here for a long time, insulated from the violence that is done in our name and after which retribution is demanded.
The regression of the US after 9/11 has been immesurably worse than that day itself, except for the victims and their families and friends.
I would like to send that young lady $1,000 for her honesty! You go girl!
Can those "free speech" maestros who are screaming at these charing, genteel, intellectually honest ladies please tell us what free speech is?
If you cannot explain it to the American people, how rae you going to explain it to the Muslim world to whom you are pitching it with bombs and bullets?