The Presidency Is Now a Criminal Conspiracy
Bush may not observe the rules, but the country abides by them
It is a fact startling in its cynical simplicity and it requires cynical and simple words to be properly expressed: The presidency of George W. Bush has now devolved into a criminal conspiracy to cover the ass of George W. Bush.
All the petulancy, all the childish threats, all the blank-stare stupidity; all the invocations of World War III, all the sophistic questions about which terrorist attacks we wanted him not to stop, all the phony secrets; all the claims of executive privilege, all the stumbling tap-dancing of his nominees, all the verbal flatulence of his apologists...
All of it is now, after one revelation last week, transparently clear for what it is: the pathetic and desperate manipulation of the government, the refocusing of our entire nation, toward keeping this mock president and this unstable vice president and this departed wildly self-overrating attorney general, and the others, from potential prosecution for having approved or ordered the illegal torture of prisoners being held in the name of this country.
"Waterboarding is torture," Daniel Levin was to write. Daniel Levin was no theorist and no protester. He was no troublemaking politician. He was no table-pounding commentator. Daniel Levin was an astonishingly patriotic American and a brave man.
Brave not just with words or with stances, even in a dark time when that kind of bravery can usually be scared or bought off.
Charged, as you heard in the story from ABC News last Friday, with assessing the relative legality of the various nightmares in the Pandora's box that is the Orwell-worthy euphemism "Enhanced Interrogation," Mr. Levin decided that the simplest, and the most honest, way to evaluate them ... was to have them enacted upon himself.
Daniel Levin took himself to a military base and let himself be waterboarded.
Mr. Bush, ever done anything that personally courageous?
Perhaps when you've gone to Walter Reed and teared up over the maimed servicemen? And then gone back to the White House and determined that there would be more maimed servicemen?
Has it been that kind of personal courage, Mr. Bush, when you've spoken of American victims and the triumph of freedom and the sacrifice of your own popularity for the sake of our safety? And then permitted others to fire or discredit or destroy anybody who disagreed with you, whether they were your own generals, or Max Cleland, or Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, or Daniel Levin?
Daniel Levin should have a statue in his honor in Washington right now.
Instead, he was forced out as acting assistant attorney general nearly three years ago because he had the guts to do what George Bush couldn't do in a million years: actually put himself at risk for the sake of his country, for the sake of what is right.
And they waterboarded him. And he wrote that even though he knew those doing it meant him no harm, and he knew they would rescue him at the instant of the slightest distress, and he knew he would not die - still, with all that reassurance, he could not stop the terror screaming from inside of him, could not quell the horror, could not convince that which is at the core of each of us, the entity who exists behind all the embellishments we strap to ourselves, like purpose and name and family and love, he could not convince his being that he wasn't drowning.
Waterboarding, he said, is torture. Legally, it is torture! Practically, it is torture! Ethically, it is torture! And he wrote it down.
Wrote it down somewhere, where it could be contrasted with the words of this country's 43rd president: "The United States of America ... does not torture."
Made you into a liar, Mr. Bush.
Made you into, if anybody had the guts to pursue it, a criminal, Mr. Bush.
Waterboarding had already been used on Khalid Sheik Mohammed and a couple of other men none of us really care about except for the one detail you'd forgotten - that there are rules. And even if we just make up these rules, this country observes them anyway, because we're Americans and we're better than that.
We're better than you.
And the man your Justice Department selected to decide whether or not waterboarding was torture had decided, and not in some phony academic fashion, nor while wearing the Walter Mitty poseur attire of flight suit and helmet.
He had put his money, Mr. Bush, where your mouth was.
So, your sleazy sycophantic henchman Mr. Gonzales had him append an asterisk suggesting his black-and-white answer wasn't black-and-white, that there might have been a quasi-legal way of torturing people, maybe with an absolute time limit and a physician entitled to stop it, maybe, if your administration had ever bothered to set any rules or any guidelines.
And then when your people realized that even that was too dangerous, Daniel Levin was branded "too independent" and "someone who could (not) be counted on."
In other words, Mr. Bush, somebody you couldn't count on to lie for you.
So, Levin was fired.
Because if it ever got out what he'd concluded, and the lengths to which he went to validate that conclusion, anybody who had sanctioned waterboarding and who-knows-what-else on anybody, you yourself, you would have been screwed.
And screwed you are.
It can't be coincidence that the story of Daniel Levin should emerge from the black hole of this secret society of a presidency just at the conclusion of the unhappy saga of the newest attorney general nominee.
Another patriot somewhere listened as Judge Mukasey mumbled like he'd never heard of waterboarding and refused to answer in words ... that which Daniel Levin answered on a waterboard somewhere in Maryland or Virginia three years ago.
And this someone also heard George Bush say, "The United States of America does not torture," and realized either he was lying or this wasn't the United States of America anymore, and either way, he needed to do something about it.
Not in the way Levin needed to do something about it, but in a brave way nonetheless.
We have U.S. senators who need to do something about it, too.
Chairman Leahy of the Judiciary Committee has seen this for what it is and said "enough."
Sen. Schumer has seen it, reportedly, as some kind of puzzle piece in the New York political patronage system, and he has failed.
What Sen. Feinstein has seen, to justify joining Schumer in rubber-stamping Mukasey, I cannot guess.
It is obvious that both those senators should look to the meaning of the story of Daniel Levin and recant their support for Mukasey's confirmation.
And they should look into their own committee's history and recall that in 1973, their predecessors were able to wring even from Richard Nixon a guarantee of a special prosecutor (ultimately a special prosecutor of Richard Nixon!), in exchange for their approval of his new attorney general, Elliott Richardson.
If they could get that out of Nixon, before you confirm the president's latest human echo on Tuesday, you had better be able to get a "yes" or a "no" out of Michael Mukasey.
Ideally you should lock this government down financially until a special prosecutor is appointed, or 50 of them, but I'm not holding my breath. The "yes" or the "no" on waterboarding will have to suffice.
Because, remember, if you can't get it, or you won't with the time between tonight and the next presidential election likely to be the longest year of our lives, you are leaving this country, and all of us, to the waterboards, symbolic and otherwise, of George W. Bush.
Ultimately, Mr. Bush, the real question isn't who approved the waterboarding of this fiend Khalid Sheik Mohammed and two others.
It is: Why were they waterboarded?
Study after study for generation after generation has confirmed that torture gets people to talk, torture gets people to plead, torture gets people to break, but torture does not get them to tell the truth.
Of course, Mr. Bush, this isn't a problem if you don't care if the terrorist plots they tell you about are the truth or just something to stop the tormentors from drowning them.
If, say, a president simply needed a constant supply of terrorist threats to keep a country scared.
If, say, he needed phony plots to play hero during, and to boast about interrupting, and to use to distract people from the threat he didn't interrupt.
If, say, he realized that even terrorized people still need good ghost stories before they will let a president pillage the Constitution,
Well, Mr. Bush, who better to dream them up for you than an actual terrorist?
He'll tell you everything he ever fantasized doing in his most horrific of daydreams, his equivalent of the day you "flew" onto the deck of the Lincoln to explain you'd won in Iraq.
Now if that's what this is all about, you tortured not because you're so stupid you think torture produces confession but you tortured because you're smart enough to know it produces really authentic-sounding fiction - well, then, you're going to need all the lawyers you can find ... because that crime wouldn't just mean impeachment, would it?
That crime would mean George W. Bush is going to prison.
Thus the master tumblers turn, and the lock yields, and the hidden explanations can all be perceived, in their exact proportions, in their exact progressions.
Daniel Levin's eminently practical, eminently logical, eminently patriotic way of testing the legality of waterboarding has to vanish, and him with it.
Thus Alberto Gonzales has to use that brain that sounds like an old car trying to start on a freezing morning to undo eight centuries of the forward march of law and government.
Thus Dick Cheney has to ridiculously assert that confirming we do or do not use any particular interrogation technique would somehow help the terrorists.
Thus Michael Mukasey, on the eve of the vote that will make him the high priest of the law of this land, cannot and must not answer a question, nor even hint that he has thought about a question, which merely concerns the theoretical definition of waterboarding as torture.
Because, Mr. Bush, in the seven years of your nightmare presidency, this whole string of events has been transformed.
From its beginning as the most neglectful protection ever of the lives and safety of the American people ... into the most efficient and cynical exploitation of tragedy for political gain in this country's history ... and, then, to the giddying prospect that you could do what the military fanatics did in Japan in the 1930s and remake a nation into a fascist state so efficient and so self-sustaining that the fascism would be nearly invisible.
But at last this frightful plan is ending with an unexpected crash, the shocking reality that no matter how thoroughly you might try to extinguish them, Mr. Bush, how thoroughly you tried to brand disagreement as disloyalty, Mr. Bush, there are still people like Daniel Levin who believe in the United States of America as true freedom, where we are better, not because of schemes and wars, but because of dreams and morals.
And ultimately these men, these patriots, will defeat you and they will return this country to its righteous standards, and to its rightful owners, the people.
-- Keith Olbermann
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Show Allpapiowhisperer: Your worries about being rousted by the dark forces of government due to posts on this site will hopefully not occur. But your concerns may not be an exaggeration, even in far-off Occupied Hawaii... You'd best prepare.
Likely you'd not be among the first rounded up; perhaps you'll get warning here on Common Dreams.
Lasting impression from Michael Moore's recent film "Sicko" - the quote of contrast:
The government in France is afraid of the people, while in the USA the people are afraid of the government.
Keith Olberman, Daniel Levin, Cindy Sheehan, and the handful of others, including the independent media voices (Shechter, Mike Moore--he was right! Fisk, and others who spoke the truth, including Plame and her husband) and those who have documented and made loud their dissent, decrying the abuse of freedom and the injustices, these people have demonstrated their love of freedom...America, you treat them right. You honor them, they are Great Americans. Don't forget them. Look to them for leadership and spurn the others. This will help to put things right.
And the fortunes that have been made by corporations who profited, don't let them get away with it. They robbed America and they robbed the world. You follow the money and you track it down and you take those obscene profits away and use them to repair the damage done.
Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rove, Powell, and the Administration, and all the rest of those corporate thugs AND those who paid their bills and purchased their character, and thus democracy, to put it in their pocket, at Nuremburg, tried by the International Court for Crimes Against Humanity, Crimes Against Democracy, crapping on Human Rights, censoring Scientists, subverting media, and ruining the US economy. Then back to the US for trial by the people of the United States for violating the US Constitution, and other laws and deceptions. Then to Iraq for trial by the Iraqis who surely have more reason than any other to want justice and we know how that will end. And then apologies and reparations from the US and a concerted effort to undo the mythology that corrupts American character and produces these thugs because those ideas are flawed and have created this situation, and thus are the ones that must be undone to prevent this from happening any more. Do this and none will ever consider subverting the American Constitution again, and the world will be able to build some trust and faith in America once more. Then disband the Repugnants and get rid of the Dim'rats as well, for those two parties are enemies of democracy and your Constitution. Campaign Finance Reform, and then a new election with new parties and none of the old faces. Don't do this, or something similar...? Then watch America continue to decline as the world turns its back and leaves America to collapse, it will be a long fall and exceedingly hard to recover, if ever.
The magnitude and extent of the repair must be sufficient to match and exceed the extent of the betrayal America has foisted on the world and its people and let run amok these last years. If this is not done, then America will forever be seen as weak, spineless and without any sense of justice. Do this and a speedy recovery, though not smooth, is assured. And it's really a small price to pay given the bullshit foisted over the last decades of striving for imperialism across the world and abusing the very principles that made America one of the great nations to trust and befriend.
Do not take lightly what America has done to the world, for it is not an internal matter.
Keith, it's nice to be glib and all... and from time to time you really do stand-and-deliver for your audience... but guess what?
Some of us are on to you.
You and insufferable loudmouths like Chris Matthews will have to atone for your marginalizing of... and sticking it to... Dr. Paul some day - all of it accomplished with the approval of your paymasters, of course.
Yes, we know you're just doing what they pay you to do.
But how will you feel when the people learn the truth of your quiescent participation in your bosses' schemes?
Do you sleep well at night... after living such a day... with so much vainglory in your heart?
Oh well, I guess that's why they pay you the big bucks, isn't it? Somebody has to entertain the circus-goers.
Once I was momentarily stung by the response from a Buddhist monk after being asked why he refused to eat some particularly delicious honey.
His answer: "It robs the bee."
By your complicity, Keith, careerists like you and Chris Matthews willfully rob the American people of the truth.
And consequently too, both of you violate core principles once held honestly by most members of the 4th Estate - even those specially-protected privileges granted you under the Constitution.
[Perhaps you've only forgotten: With extraordinary privilege comes extraordinary responsibility.]
We all know Bushco for what it is - but what of the big media honchos who enabled them in their crimes? What role did you get to play in this extravaganza?
If you were really such a forthright, truth-telling, and patriotic kind of guy you'd expose the sock puppets and puppet masters in your profession for what all of you have become:
Little more than cynical-but-dutiful bunch of co-conspirators in a technologically-manufactured... well-orchestrated... criminal production racket - in bed with a gang of elitist "fascisti"... mercenary "protectors"... and supposed "do-gooders"... taking us all down that black road... to totalitarian hell!
Imagine you are universally derided one of these days for simply doing your precious job so well, Keith Olbermann.
You know what? Stranger things have happened. Haven't they?
The current admin's cavalier attitude
regarding torture is in fact a terror
tactic. In the back of my mind I fear
men in black will batter ram my door
down and waterboard my ass about posts
made on this site.
"And ultimately these men, these patriots, will defeat you and they will return this country to its righteous standards, and to its rightful owners, the people."
Amen!
I guess I called you by your true name Zimm ... just as Rosa said to do!!
anney ... I'm confused ... you say tou were a part of the revolution ... a feminist ... but you won't be voting ... ???
Sorry, doesn't compute!!
This goofball was voted into office by partisan morons and it should have been no mystery what he would do. He was a moron supported by morons when he was governor of Texas. I knew he was a moron. I didn't vote for the creep. A lot of people did though because they thought he represented their "values"- values which to me aren't even values- they're crass self-interest, smugness, fear and stupidity. There's nothing valuable about those things. This Republican "revolution" has been going on since Reagan was elected- another moron. It all started out moronic and slowly we start to see that leaders do make a difference. People vote for what makes them feel safe and while these leaders are making them feel safe these leaders are doing all kinds of stupid and self-indulgent things. They're idiots. They haven't a clue about statesmanship or rule. They know about power, but they are ignorant. Whatever educations they received taught them very little. They got a degree at the finest schools, but they didn't get an education. No idea ever impressed itself on them except the arrogant certainties of their high economic and social classes. To them being an idiot is natural and normal.
5280----I loved your dream and wish I could have been there with you. Hold onto it---we can create that reality with enough energy. It is so inspiring--kind like John Lennon's Imagine, but just for US citizens. Keep on dreaming. It sure beats bitching and moaning all the time. Besides dreams make warmer companions on the journey than curses and complaints. Where would we be without all the artists and dreamers?? Now if we could just get the "sleeping giant" to wake up from this particular dream and begin to translate it into concrete action. I don't want to awaken from that dream.
The Bush Administration's plans continue to be "confused, contradictory, and not thought through"
It gripes me when so many comments deplore the average
American; who believe that all citizens just watch tv and go about their business as usual and avoid political discussions, etc. The truth is many Americans ARE Aware of the corruption and the destruction of our civil liberties with the military commissions act for example. And the average citizen DOES write and call their Congressmen. And all the protesting and marches continue BUT nothing changes because corporatocracy rules the show. People do take action, contribute, vote, etc. but their power is limited when compared to the global corporate and government alliances. So stop bashing the average Joe, and get out there and make a difference with your contributions, writings, and marches and make changes for improved and enlightened education of the young who should know their American History. It will be the young who will eventually make changes that could get our Democracy back on track.
Gee, I had this dream.
At first there were a few. Then there were more...and more...and more. Pretty soon it was obvious: Something was happening. Over a period of a few days, Washington D.C's sidewalks were becoming busy with people... soon they were filled with just people -- peacefully walking. Before you knew it, there were no parking spaces. Huh. No permit had been filled out. Gee. No website had been calling for a march or a protest on the Mall. But, slowley, ever so slowley, people were filling the city.
There were no protest signs. No drums being beat. No funny costumes (ok, there were a FEW funny costumes), but, all in all, these were just regular folks of all ages and races. Of all religious and economic backgrounds. Some even brought their children. And why not? Their kids are the ones who'd lost the most under this "government". Freedom. Privacy. The Great American Dream -- a simple home, the right to have their vote counted. All of it, lost. No health care (while other nations took care of their own citizens.) Trillions in debt. Why shouldn't they be here?
Soon the Capital Police came and stood on the steps of the capital. Facing the quiet and calm crowd, they soon were joined by private security forces. Next the US Army was called. What would they do? Would they stand with their families, or, would they stand readlied with tazers, mace, guns (or who knows what at this point)to use against their own families, friends and neighbors?
Tonight the President was suppose to give his last State of the Union Address. Everyone who was anyone in the political circle was in town.
Homeland Security and the rest of the usual suspects were called in. Cell phone providers scanned records to see exactly who was there and using GPS, exacty where they were, what they were saying and their plans. Entire families were tracked. Internet providers feverishly offered up millions of emails of their customers accounts...
...then I woke up.
MUKASEY COULD NOT SAY "YES" BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE US THE GROUNDS TO CONVICT BUSH AND CHENEY AND RUMSFELD IN A COURT OF LAW...THE REPUBLICANS DO NOT DO SUCH THINGS. IT'S EASIER TO LIE (OR PREVARICATE) WHEN YOU CANNOT TELL THE TRUTH.
McDee wrote:
"Republicans will keep on winning because they keep on running unopposed."
Oh, really? Like the Kentucky gubernatorial race yesterday? It wasn't even close.
Chuck Schumer's tortured logic:
"On the day that Senator Charles
Schumer used his vote on the Senate Judiciary Committee to all but assure that
George W. Bush's latest pick, Michael B. Mukasey for attorney general, would be
confirmed, The New York Times obliged him by publishing - in a featured Op-Ed -
his reasons for doing so. The Times did not see fit to publicize any other
senator's thoughts on the matter. That is fitting, because the only voice that
mattered in the end was Chuck Schumer's." -
Marc Ash
"gabi November 6th, 2007 5:30 pm
Keith you always tell it like it is … Thank you for everything!!
I'm always amazed at the posters here who turn every article that bashes bush (six years worth of krap w/a pub majority) into a chance to bash the 10 month Dems (who have no "real" majority) … Why don't you start dealing with reality or go to a pub site? … I'm getting sick of the bush apologists who like to blame the Dems & Nancy Pelosi for everything …
and zimmerman … how typical of you and so out of place to mention your sexist attitudes toward Clinton… to bring up her name in a comment area for an article by Keith O. where he makes no mention of her at all …How off base can you get ??
Anybody but zimmerman (and a few others)!"
My dear one:"The first revolutionary act is to call things by their true names."- Rosa Luxemburg
I hope America HEARD that! That left me breathless!
Keith:- I never heard music like that since George Galloway came to Washington. His speach had a similar effect for me.
Something within me (perhaps my rabid imagination) tells me that we might just have reached the breaking point. But then I thought we would see the justice in August 2003. But no one took any notice and GWB was elected AGAIN!
He is the only person that I watch when it comes to national news. The rest aren't worth the time or effort to bother with. I never thought I would live to see the day when our great country sank so low with people like Bush and Company. When we routinely tortured in the name of democracy. Which makes us no better than the terrorist's!
What I think now; and thought in the past is ... I really like to hear KO speak out this words. There is the one voice, speaking to millions ... telling the truth.
But what will the consequences be? I dont hear the one sentence that would make KO the true american hero; maybe something like: "NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOU THE PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. STOP SHOPPING. STOP WORKING. STOP SUPPORTING THIS SYSTEM". Okay, so more 5 or 6 sentences.
This is the ONLY logical conclussion that fits to the aggresive style of Keiths comments. But well, we have not seen that. We do not. We will not.
Because, as sad it is ... Keith is just another person working for and in "the system". He gives the angry people a voice ... to change ... nothing. Give the audience what it is looking for. Make sure to NOT miss this share of the market.
I would bet on this: the day Keith asks for people to actually DO something about this situation; he will be fired. Off the air for all time.
Dont get me wrong. I do hope that KO continues his work as long as necessary; I just doubt that it has much effects ...
Trust me-
As long as the regime has -Blackwater- under thier belt
no one is going anywhere anytime soon- maybe never.
and no one is going to stop what they're doing.
not even the US Military is bigger or better equiped-
Keith Olberman is a National hero with more sense, courage, and character than the whole BushCheny mob combined could ever have. His clear observations are one thing that give us hope we may see the end of this rotten mess we have for a government. It is hard to believe there are still so many people that refuse to remove their blinders and consider the truth rather than the constant lies and drivel we are fed from MSM. Good luck. Keith, watch your back, and thanks for your insightful commentary.
anney ... please explain this majority the Dems are supposed to have ?? ... Are you counting the "rove dems" elected in some states last year and always vote pub ?? Are you counting joe lieberman ?? Where is this majority you speak of ??
polishqueue ... enjoyed your post!
Way to nail this nightmare on the head, Keith! Thank you sir. You are a true American Patriot.
One must wonder if Stalin, Hitler, Idi Amin, Torquemada, Tilla the Hun, Shah of Iran, Jack the Ripper, et. al, have reserved a place in hell for bush, cheney, ashcroft, gonzales, rove, and their minyims.
Hi Colleen,
This is a true story. Recently, I was on a commercial flight from Kansas City to Las Vegas. Vegas was hosting the National Water Polo Tournament. I happened to be seated next to a young couple. And the three passengers seated in the row in front of us were going to see the Tournament. For whatever reason, the young lady sitting next to me became bored with her boyfriend and interested in the conversation taking place among the passengers sitting in the row in front of us. So she decided to engage in the conversation. She told the guys "I have two questions." "First, how do they get the horses in the swimming pool?" I was reading my book, and kind of chuckled when she asked the first question. She then asked "how do the players riding on the horses in the swimming pool hit the ball with the golf putter?" Unfortunately, she was serious about these questions. I proceeded to lift my book in front of my face to hide my laughter. She asked me if I had a problem seeing the print in my book, and recommended that I hold it a short distance away from my face so I could see it. At that point, I lost it and had to go to the back of the plane to laugh.
I understand your concern.
Whne I went in to vote today I asked a young Republican woman who was handing out pamphlets to voters if she supported water boarding. She asked, "What's water boarding?"
But thank you Keith Olberman for giving this nation some sense of morality with your news casts.
The torture continues, and it keeps many silent. We feel we're not ruled by laws, but by creepy, ruthless, unprincipled people.
Keep your head down - the feds may come for us too.
That's the true terror that hit America.
Folks> I hate to break it to you, but we live in a class system [oligarchy] Many of the Dems are members of the upper ruling class and will never do anything to jeopardize their standing.
in a bygone age this type of TV commentary would have meant something and stood for something. It might even have caused some national soul searching . But times are different now, Olbermann is just another taking head on a low rent cable TV channel.
WTF...may have stated it quite well. It will someone in power whose objective is self serving, selfish, and generally B.S.
Joe in Texas
It's a true relief to read someone speak (well, write - but in a manner speaking) as clearly, sharply, honestly and incisively as Olberman.
Because, frankly, what I read of the Bush-adm. from most other sources scares me wobbly.
Impeach.
There's still time left for history to prove that Bush was right all along! We're just totally ungrateful wretches. It's all become so clear to me now. We should all just do what they tell us and be grateful!
nelson: Actually I would say that Feinstein and Schumer are typical Democrats.
Never stopped to think that pride has a worthiness
I call it Olbermann
Great piece! I heard on the radio that Feinstein and Schumer voted for Mukasey. We should begin a campaign against them (especially Feinstein) for lying to us about actually being democrats!
Hate to say we told you so Keith,6 yrs ago. But, we told you so! And we tried telling all of you in MSM, and you would not listen!
Many still aren't.
Many are still holding the company line and counting the money from rather large contracts.
When you peel away the layers of the rotten onion that is George W. Bush's presidency, you get down to the corrupt core – greed. It's all about money – redistribution of wealth – from the treasury to favored corporations. No principles or patriotism are involved. The billions spent on Iraq are going where? To organizations like the Carlyle Group (Daddy's outfit), Halliburton (Cheney's outfit), Blackwater, etc. These guys are looting the country and leaving the bills to our children. War is Welfare for Defense Contractors. Period. A criminal enterprise indeed!
Interesting story, Polishqueue, and I believe there's a grain of truth to it, but I don't believe folks in Washington are that sophisticated to pull something that grand and all-encompassing off. Too many mouthes and egos.
Of course, their real masters have the wherewithall, and with enough pressure and money...
Gee, what fun!
jimmydean
At age 68, I've reached the same point, not because of the upcoming Mukasey confirmation but because of the Democrats' refusal to consider impeaching Cheney and Bush. I NEVER thought I'd think such a thing, since I've been fighting harder the last four years than any other time in my life.
Until America once again has a constitutional government, I will not vote. I don't think that will be in my lifetime.
NO responsible reason or excuse for Feinstein and Schumer to vote to send Mukasey onward from the Judiciary Committee to the full senate. We Democrats worked locally and spent money to see a majority in the Senate and House. It happened, and to what end. This craven and misguided action of two "big talk" senators and the general ineffectiveness of Nancy Pelosi has pushed this tired citizen right out of any interest in local, state, and national elections. Somehow this Attorney General stuff is my personal last straw. I expect never to vote again in this quasi democracy until somebody in the Washington mess is brought to justice in some significant way. May you brighter and more patient folks out there find a way to rescue this incredible, shrinking, country.
Give the Democrats a break. They're doing the best they can under the circumstances.
And what are those circumstances?
In order to understand what's going on (and many of you reading this already do, so please allow a bit of simplicity for those who don't yet), we need to purge ourselves of the idea of "Democrat vs Republican". The dichotomy is there to fool you. There really aren't "Democrats" who represent one way of thinking and who are opposed by "Republicans" who feel differently. Well, all right, there are, but they're only chattel like the rest of us; the ruling class is independent of such divisions and maintains that illusion for the same purpose that professional wrestlers need to have bodyguards to keep them from killing one another during television "interviews", despite the fact that they all sleep on the same bus together traveling from town to town.
And they're not opposed to using some pretty nasty tricks to serve their purposes.
Not the wrestlers, of course. Most of the ones I've met are pretty nice guys.
The classic plan (which is not original; it originated with Nixon and the Dulles brothers during Truman's administration -- that's why he didn't run again) is to quietly steal from the treasury, enjoy eight years of overt power, and then set up a situation in which politically weak opponents are "chosen" to represent the populists and win the next election. About one year into the new administration's first term, a military emergency "just happens" to arise, followed by an economic collapse. Both then linger (possibly along with some sexual inuendo) until the end of the term, by which time any paper trails that would lead to former officials would no longer exist. In 1996, that hadn't been accomplished yet. There were still some major loose ends that needed tying up (some believe they may have been in the form of documents located in Bahgdad). Support was pulled from Clinton opponent Bob Dole, ensuring a continuation of the status quo for the time being. Of course, with the greatest budget and trade surplus in U.S. history, with organized crime virtually halted, with DISorganized crime and the poverty that spawns it at an all-time low, about the only possibility of W. winning the presidency was to arrange for popularly-despised lyrics-censorist Tipper Gore's husband to be his opponent. And even then they had to bully the Supreme Court into declaring him the unelected winner.
Less than a year later, the greatest tragedy ever intentionally brought about in this land (not counting the extermination of it's original citizens, of course) occurred on a clear, bright Tuesday morning. In less time than it takes to say "Lee Harvey Oswald", the unregistered hijackers, using counterfeit identification (which means they WEREN'T the people we've been told they were, were they?), were positively identified and associated with the Al Quida group located in Afghanistan. And thus providing justification for an all-out invasion on Afghanistan and the capture or elimination of Osama Bin Laden. Except that Bin Laden has never been captured or killed, and that does not appear to have ever been a priority. What WAS a priority was the capture and death of Sadam Hussein, who (1) was the elected president of a country that happens to exist in the same general part of the world (2) was not a nice guy, unlike the president of nearly all the other nations in that part of the world, and (3) may well have held the keys to evidence connecting Donald Rumsfeld and possibly Ronald Reagan with support for Iraqi and Afghani paramilitary operations against Iran. There are some people who suspect that all of that evidence has not yet been located and destroyed (which is why we're still there), and that some members of the Chene(y) Gang believe it might be in Iran.
What the Democratic candidate "hopefuls" have to contend with is that whoever "wins" the nomination will be destroyed viciously and totally. S/he won't be assassinated -- been there; done that; don't want to create no martyrs thankyouverymuch -- but will be politically gutted and hung out to spin slowly in the wind. And they will carry the disgrace of taking their party down with them. The traps are already set. The economic crash; the terrorist activities; the collapse of an infrastructure not only ignored but conciously boobytrapped for these last seven years. All scheduled to occur about nine months into the first term of the "lucky winner". Is there no hope? Yes, there is. The Democrats, at least some of them, are certainly just as good at playing this game as their NeoCon counterparts. At least, it USED to be a game. Just like WWF wrestling, pomp, glory, and a good time to be had by all. Except now the guys on the other side aren't satisfied with entertainment and just getting rich; they want power and the elimination of all opposition. Suddenly it isn't a game anymore. Can the U.S. get out of Iraq? Certainly. Can the U.S. get out of Iraq without the collapse of that government and an almost immediate series of terrorist attacks on us?
Not if Rumsfeld/Cheney/Bush/McCain have anything to say about it.
And THAT's why the Democratic congress can't just pull the plug. They were supposed to grab the bait (after all, that's what the far less politically-savvy press is so pissed at them for not doing). They were cool enough not to. The administration raised. The Democrats raised. No one is calling -- yet. But there's a time limit on this game, and the administration's going to HAVE to do something. The Dems -- the real leaders, at least -- are content to let us schmucks in the audience boo them while they hold out. In the end, they just MIGHT get the other side scared enough to fold. I hope so; I am very VERY afraid that it's America's last and only chance.
And here's more on the death of the bill:
Democratic leaders long ago rejected any consideration of impeaching Cheney and President Bush as an irresponsible move supported only by the far left, so they tried today to table Kucinich's impeachment resolution. After initially having more than enough votes to kill the resolution - the "yea" tally to table impeachment topped out at 291 - Republicans decided they had a chance to politically shame Democrats into a full debate on the sensitive issue. Republicans gleefully said they wanted the debate to show the public how many Democrats would actually support impeaching Cheney, which they consider a move supported only by a fringe element of anti-war activists.
More than 120 members, predominantly Republicans, then switched their votes in favor of holding a one-hour debate on the issue, with a final vote of 251-162 supporting a debate on impeachment. Rather than allow a debate fraught with political risk, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) moved to send the Kucinich resolution to the Judiciary Committee, whose chairman, Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), has publicly speculated about impeaching the president or vice president but has declined taking any action since taking the gavel in January.
Defusing any chance of an actual impeachment debate today, the House then voted 218-194 to send the motion to Conyers's committee, with Democrats overwhelmingly supporting the move.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/11/cheney_impeachment_resolution.html
Folks, I hate to bust your bubble, but Kucinich's impeachment bill was sent to the Judiciary Committee, and it will never see the light of day again. It will not come up for a vote.
UPDATE: The House just voted 218-194 to send Kucinich's impeachment resolution to the Judiciary Committee, thus killing the bill and preventing a debate on impeachment. 4:34 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/06/cheney-impeachment-measure-advances/
I heartily agree Daniel Levin should have a statue of him erected in Washington. Wonderful article, Olbermann.
I didn't read the 60 comments to your post, so maybe this has already been suggested--or even done--by someone.
We, i.e., some Americans, should go Levin one better. Someone should put out a call for volunteers--very special ones--to produce a documentary of a waterboarding to be posted everywhere possible on the Internet, so the rest of us can make sure everyone in the U.S. goes to the site.
By special volunteers, I mean people who are indisputably objective, like Nobel Prize winning doctors, engineers, Peace Prize winners, Mama Teresa types, Peace Prize winners, but no politicians. A male and female volunteer who'd be willing to undergo the same waterboarding Levine did, would also have to relatively be saints to be believable. No leftists who would be unacceptable by the mainstream as impartial. At the moment I can't think of the type or individuals, but if this idea has merit, I'm sure its organizers could think of some.
Yes, I'm crazy for even thinking of the idea, much less proposing it, but it's not just that this next year may be the longest of our lives, it's that it will likely result in more torture and death we've ever seen committed by the President more or less elected by us, the people of this country.
I feel sorry I suggest such mad idea, even in these times. What I feel sorrier about is the dismal, destructive democracy we've come to be.
RudyG
Juliania says, "..this might POSSIBLY be a Watergate moment - the Republicans perhaps have seen the writing on the wall, maybe with the good Mr. Obermann's help here - and they're switching quickly to be on the politically correct side of things - it is going to the Judiciary Committee and that puts Conyers in the hot seat. Walk the walk, Democrats! When you have criminals, you bring them to JUSTICE."
Or it's the Repubs trying to put the screws to Nancy Pelosi. Could it backfire and put them ALL on the spot? Surely would be wonderful to return this country to constitutional rule, wouldn't it?
Go MSMBC and Olbermann!!
We have been taught to focus on a leader a face and not on the system behind the fools! It is the system. The fingers up the puppets ass. If I were to suggest that you could remove a malignancy by taking off the part that shows everyone would clearly see my error.
The disease is the system. It feeds on division, confusion, lies, and the illusions of profit, debt, interest, and credit. More than just boycotting taxes. Boycott the system. Pay no fee to any government agency. The trick is that it must be a United Consciousness. It means that each individual must accept the responsibility of maintaining the values of the country without the monetary exchange. Get what you need, take no more than you need. Less is not only best it is good stewardship and good manners. Do not assess your neighbors needs deal only with your own actions. Every worker doing their job but charging nothing. No money or credit just good judgment and honorable behaver.....I don't expect this for a while yet. Everyone gets what they need but no one feeds the parasites. Let the corporate entities die of starvation. No leaders.....No followers no profit no greed. Individuals with courage, in common with good taste.
gabi
Of course progressives are bashing the Democrats. THEY were the ones who won the majorities in both houses on the strength of their promise to fight the Bush agenda and get the US out of Iraq. And that's why most of us voted for them -- they owe their positions to us.
We expected the Republicans would support the Bush agenda -- that's what they've done all along. The Democrats are being excoriated for their treachery, and they deserve many more black eyes and bloody noses than they've gotten.
PASCAL, I take it you are not an American citizen and are skeptical.___ If so, you have every right to be.
Keith..I don't know how you get away with it, but thank you for your courage, truth and GENUINE journalistic ability. Be careful! Be very careful! These bush's are beyond ruthless..they are PURE EVIL.
When I watched the Olbermann special last evening, I almost could not believe my ears and eyes. I stood and cheered when it ended, as did my wife. With different words, we both said the same thing, ___ "Perhaps this is the begnning of a new age in America". ___ We'll see, if any other high profile people in the television news media, continue what Keith Olbermann has begun, and done it so well. I was almost proud to be an American again, and do so much wish I could be.
I believe this is the document which obviously forms the basis of Mr. Olbermann's Special Comment from last evening's (11-5-2007) Countdown. Read the attached document authored by Mr. Levin in December 2004 (which Mr. Olbermann refers to), titled "Legal Standards Applicable Under 18 U.S.C. 2340 2340A? In it Mr. Levin writes, "Statute also prohibits certain conduct specifically intended to cause 'severe physical suffering' distinct from severe physical pain". The link can be found at:
abcnews.go.com/images/TheLaw/DAG_MEMO_1.pdf
Copy and past this URL into your browser. Be patient. This pdf file can load a little slowly.
In 2004, when Mr. Levin took over as then acting assistant attorney general, he went to work on a memo that would effectively replace the administration's legal position on torture, which laid-out possible justifications for torture. It was during this time that Mr. Levin underwent waterboarding to experience it firsthand.
In December 2004, Levin released the new memo. He said, "Torture is abhorrent" but he went on to say in a footnote that the memo was not declaring the administration's previous opinions illegal. The White House, with Alberto Gonzales as the White House counsel, insisted that this footnote be included in the memo.
But Mr. Levin never finished a second memo imposing tighter controls on the specific interrogation techniques. He was forced out of the Justice Department when Gonzales became attorney general.
The Democrats MUST filibuster Mukasey's nomination until Bush agrees to appoint a special prosecutor!
Sorry Mr.Olbermann, I don't think you are right. The USA is headed the way of the Roman Empire. Disintegration because of benign neglect by the populace of the founding principles of your country. Ultimately, self-interest and hubris will win out. The people of the USA will quite willingly succumb to dictatorship of your military-industrial complex. After all, what do you people still make besides the means to wage war?
Keith you always tell it like it is ... Thank you for everything!!
I'm always amazed at the posters here who turn every article that bashes bush (six years worth of krap w/a pub majority) into a chance to bash the 10 month Dems (who have no "real" majority) ... Why don't you start dealing with reality or go to a pub site? ... I'm getting sick of the bush apologists who like to blame the Dems & Nancy Pelosi for everything ...
and zimmerman ... how typical of you and so out of place to mention your sexist attitudes toward Clinton... to bring up her name in a comment area for an article by Keith O. where he makes no mention of her at all ...How off base can you get ??
Anybody but zimmerman (and a few others)!
Go. Keith! You are the best!
The Republicans in the House just voted NOT to table Kucinich's impeach Cheney resolution - I am thinking this might POSSIBLY be a Watergate moment - the Republicans perhaps have seen the writing on the wall, maybe with the good Mr. Obermann's help here - and they're switching quickly to be on the politically correct side of things - it is going to the Judiciary Committee and that puts Conyers in the hot seat. Walk the walk, Democrats! When you have criminals, you bring them to JUSTICE!
Since the only thing our reps listen to anymore is the sound of money being laundered into their coffers, it's about time for Big Money Progressives to start buying off Congress members - to do the right thing for a change.
Exxon pays 'em for permission to kill Earth, Blackwater pays them for permission to kill, well, anything, and Cheneybush pay 'em to pretend we're God's favorite democracy. So why can't "we" pay 'em to stop the illegal occupation, attack global warming and restore the Constitution and Bill of Rights?
It's not like they care where the money comes from or what the "cause" is, right? No - they just want the friggin money. It's time we start playing their game by their rules: here's a check worth half-a-million more than Halliburton's latest payoff - now go do what we've paid you to do: stop this administration ASAP. Here's another check - double what Big Health Insurance thieves paid you - now go turn health care from a commodity back to a necessity.
Clearly, we cannot win on ethical or moral or even common sense grounds. So, let's go retail!
Some people say they want an honest candidate but when one comes along the spoken truths are ignored and sidelined. Get real people, it's not a beauty contest!
Cometh The Hour...
It's time for The Special Prosecutor
"We have met the enemy; he is bipartisan, and he is us."
I'd agree, except I'm not sure what meaning, if any, can be assigned to the term 'bipartisan' in current circumstances. Was two-faced Janus a 'bipartisan' god?
Sadly, waterboarding and other forms of torture, kidnapping, preemptive war and subsequent occupation, bullying threats to "uncooperative" regimes, patently hypocritical rhetoric about freedom and democracy, etc, all put forth precisely what neoconservatives want the US to represent: an amoral, vicious "super" power that will stop at nothing to achieve its ends. The stated goal is that the US be feared rather than loved.
Maybe those who attribute Bush's depredations to rational self-interest are misunderestimating him. :) Sure, he's the latest installment in a long line of tools of the mega-rich, but he also believes most of his lies, and for that reason is exponentially more dangerous than his predecessors. He supports torture of detainees not only because it's an effective terror tactic, but also because he thinks those who disagree with him are agents of the devil, and have no rights. He's capable of murdering millions of innocent Iranians without batting an eyelash, not only to steal Iranian oil, but also because he really believes that Israel has a divine right to conquer the Middle East.
If I thought he were just another cynical tool of the ruling elite, I wouldn't be so worried. The ruling elite doesn't want nuclear war.
They say people have the government they deserve, which would indicate we're a nation of racist, fundamentalist predators headed for a rendezvous with destiny. We have met the enemy; he is bipartisan, and he is us.
"your sleazy sycophantic henchman Mr. Gonzales"
Such an accurate description. Still, the words sleazy, sycophantic and henchman, now need to take a shower.
Dr. Zimmerman Robert November 6th, 2007 3:37 pm -- "Clinton is Bush in women's clothes."
Hmmm. That could make a codpiece-enhanced carrier landing somewhat awkward. I hesitate even to consider the HRC alternative.
And, John Freeman, it's as if the citizens of the United States are still in high school where popularity and, most of the time, attractiveness wins the contest.
I'm told, so many times, that "Kucinich won't win" by neighbors and friends. I usually reply that if people would vote their hopes, instead of their fears, that he'd have MORE of a chance than anybody.
When truth is spoken, why don't most Americans pay attention? We've been lulled to sleep by our media, our consumer culture, and are fast becoming 'good Germans' under an increasingly dangerous demagogue. The System is in place: what are we going to do about it? Isn't it time to organize and rise up to stop this administration since our congress doesn't seem to have the will to do so? When, oh when, are we going to WAKE UP???
I agree with Paul from Texas. The only explanation that fits with the continual caving in to Bush on FISA, terrible justices, terrible AG, torture, continued massive funding of the war, continued degrading of oversight to fraud, etc. is that the Democrats are in on it. Once in Congress, they are all feeding at the same trough. A giant gravey train that we and our children, and grandchildren as tax payers are straining to keep up with.
Clinton is Bush in women's clothes.
ABC
Anybody But Clinton
So well said, Poet, so well said.
Thanks.
poet: true
The Democrats are NOT spineless; they are co-conspirators in the process of constitutionally illegal imperial government.
Witness the (Dem) Senate panel approval of Mukasey AFTER the controversy over waterboarding was stirred up. He's well on his way now, thanks to Schumer, Feinstein, et al.
Please wake up, those of you who think that the Democrats are spineless, and face the truth!
It's not just that Keith Olbermann speaks the truth unfiltered by euphemisms and the other polite niceties of the punditry.
Neither is it that Keith Olbermann uses his eloquence and the facts to speak in a controlled anger not unlike the crescendoing finale of a musical piece like the 1812 Overture or Beethoven's 5th Symphony.
What Keith Olbermann does best of all is show up our suppossed "leaders" (not just Bush/Cheney) for what they are. Our Emporers and Emporesses are truly blind, and morally and ethically diseased and naked and Keith Olbermann is one little boy in the crowd willing to say so.
on the money. these people make nixon look like an amateur. a saving grace, if there is one, is that our american fascists are SO incompetent and inept, that hopefully, they cant pull it off. you rock on, keith.
We all must remember, too that Keith's network MSNBC is owned by general electric: huge polluter and war profiteer...
Hey Keith,
Thanks for the insights...
You have the forum...
Television...
How about a tax revolution... no taxes paid on April 15 2008...
Hit em where it hurts...
and also make the people who robbed the treasury pay it back...Google "War Profiteers"
Put it out there and see who has the balls to do it...
talk is cheap...
Thank you in advance,
Pi
hillary + giuliani are part of colossal deception.
a new page means an honest candidate.
yet to come.
The YouTube link is
http://youtube.com/watch?v=arWJ358tZgU
'they know that the mysterious 'terrorists'
aipac + us are supposed to be
tracking down are nobody else but themselves'
The idea is not to increase security by extracting information via torture. Everyone knows this doesn't work.
Instead, the idea is to erode society's ethical standards so that skulduggery may be further institutionalized, to enable a more efficient rule of capital over people.
Arvy: "Sadly, I tend to agree with those above who doubt that even this will be enough to overcome public apathy and turn the tide today. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong, but I just don't see the required leadership anywhere on the horizon"
You are right. When people in this country read this kind of articles on the MSM, they dismiss them as "liberal propaganda, and that's why we are losing the war on terror". Makes no sense, but rationality doesn't seem to be important to them.
That was Fantastic! Definitely a "must see" if it makes it to YouTube.
It's worse than that Keith.
Look at the past elections:
1980 - Reagan Bush
1984 - Reagan Bush
1988 - Bush Quayle
1992 - Clinton Gore
1996 - Clinton Gore
2000 - Bush Cheney
2004 - Bush Cheney
2008 - (#1 Contender is CLINTON)
Coincidence that for the last 27 years 2 families have held 1 of the top 2 slots in the US Government?
The rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than covering up for bush.
Olbermann thinks Bush is covering up for his crimes. Way I see it, Bush thinks he is a savior of the people who can do no wrong. Why would anyone want to prosecute our savior and protector? If they try, Bush would have to declare martial law to save us. By his lights, any attempt to impeach or prosecute him would be tantamount to another 9/11. He is delusional, not cynical, and that makes him a more persuasive (and dangerous) leader. Adolf Hitler remained convinced to the end that he was a misunderstood hero who had saved Germany from the Jews.
So in Bush's mind (haha), those opposing torture of detainees are the ones engaged in a criminal conspiracy. He's always been out of his depth in the ME, and the situation there can only get worse, not better, under his (mis)leadership. In my opinion, Bush is not on the defensive, and we should still be afraid, very afraid, of this mental midget with a gigantic Messiah complex.
I have a question: why will Keith Olbermann not show that AIPAC is pulling the strings of Feinstein and Schumer when we all know it?
THANK YOU KEITH. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
Haven't seen a TV denouncement of evil quite so devastating since the McCarthy era and the famous commentaries by Edward R Murrow.
Sadly, I tend to agree with those above who doubt that even this will be enough to overcome public apathy and turn the tide today. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong, but I just don't see the required leadership anywhere on the horizon.
This isn't my idea but I can't remember to whom I should attribute this punishment. It was suggested for Nixon. Bush should be forced to stand on a pedestal somewhere in DC for 8 hours a day so any American could slap the shit out of him.
I dare say that 12 hours of continuously waterboarding any human being would end in that persons demise. Which is why most humans who are waterboarded only last a minute or two before they begin to beg for it to stop. Which is when they tell their interrogators whatever the interrogators would like to hear.
Which is what makes all forms of torture not only barbaric and internationally illegal, but according to every legal study ever done it has been found that torture does not lead to any substantive intelligence.
In the meantime, I'm tuned into CSPAN 1 which covers the House of Representatives patientlyl waiting for Dennis Kucinich to stand on the House Floor and bring for his articles of impeachment against V.P. Richard Cheney. Rep. Kucinich's office said this will happen before 3pm EST.
Bravo! Mr. Olbermann, you lay it on thick. A modern-day Thomas Paine, if there ever was one, invoking a modern-day common sense, and rights-of-man, for the literate, modern-day colonists.
Mr. Olbermann, you're blessed with the silver-tongue. Your latest will go down in the annals of time as the one which finally... yes, finally, spoke truth to power.
May you live a long and prosperous life! Again, my most sincere, Bravo!
Republicans will keep on winning because they keep on running unopposed.
Quality Time wrote: The Republicans will win again in 2008. Face it. Live with it.
The Elites will win, whether Repugs or Dims, it makes no matter. The same ruling class will be in power, and nothing will change.