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TechnoratiCalling the Question -- In the House -- on Impeaching Cheney
Broadcast media's gate-keeping "stars" have done just about everything in their power to keep the matter of presidential accountability off the radar of the American people. That was evident during the most recent Democratic presidential debate, when NBC anchors Brian Williams and Tim Russert meticulously avoided following up on Congressman Dennis Kucinich's three references to impeachment but somehow found time to grill the contenders on UFOs and what costume Barack Obama would be wearing on Halloween.
Pollsters are almost as bad. Rarely are questions about impeachment included in statewide or national surveys.
Despite the lack of media coverage, however, when citizens are asked what they think about holding members of the Bush administration to account, they respond with an enthusiasm far greater than that displayed for impeaching Richard Nixon at the height of the Watergate scandal. It is this reality -- as opposed to the state of denial fostered by so much of the media and the political class -- that Congressman Dennis Kucinich will act upon next week, when he offers a privileged resolution on the House floor to bring articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney.
Kucinich will face an uphill fight in a chamber led by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the California Democrat who continues to say that impeachment is "off the table."
The Ohio congressman and long-shot presidential contender may not be following the rules of engagement as dictated by major media and his party leaders. But when Kucinich raises the issue of impeachment, he will be speaking for a great mass of Americans who agree with his argument that, "Congress must hold the Vice President accountable."
How great?
A fresh poll conducted for Vermont's WCAX television station finds that citizens of that state enthusiastically believe that Congress beginning impeachment proceedings against President Bush.
Sixty-one percent of the Vermonters surveyed favor taking steps to impeach the president, while just 33% oppose doing so.
The numbers are even higher for impeaching Cheney. Sixty-four percent of Vermonters favor beginning the process of holding the vice president to account, where only 31 percent are opposed.
The greater level of support for impeaching Cheney parallels the few nationwide figures that have been ascertained. When the American Research Group conducted a national survey in early July of this year, it found that 54 percent of American adults wanted the House to begin impeachment proceedings against Cheney -- with 76 percent of Democrats, 51 percent of independents and a striking 17 percent of Republicans favoring the step.
Forty-six percent of Americans surveyed backed impeachment proceedings against Bush -- with support for impeachment at 69 percent among Democrats, 50 percent among independents and 13 percent among Republicans.
What is notable is that, when Time magazine surveyed Americans in the late spring of 1974, after the Watergate scandal had evolved into a full-scale crisis of confidence in Nixon's presidency, only 43 percent favored impeachment.
A media that actually had a sense of history, not to mention reality, would focus on the fact that Americans are more supportive of a congressional intervention to thwart Bush and Cheney's wrongdoing than they were of moves to hold Nixon to account just months before the former president resigned in disgrace.
Now, it falls to Kucinich to speak the reality that, "The momentum is building for impeachment. Millions of citizens across the nation are demanding Congress rein in the Vice President's abuse of power."
Says the congressman, "Despite this groundswell of opposition to the unconstitutional conduct of office, Vice President Cheney continues to violate the U.S. Constitution by insisting the power of the executive branch is supreme... The Vice President continues to use his office to advocate for a continued occupation of Iraq and prod our nation into a belligerent stance against Iran. If the Vice President is successful, his actions will ensure decades of disastrous consequences."
Kucinich introduced articles of impeachment against Cheney several months ago, and his H. Res. 333 has attracted almost two dozen co-sponsors. All Democrats, they are Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Robert Brady (D-PA), Yvette Clarke (D-NY), Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO), Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN), Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), Rep. Sam Farr (D-CA), Rep. Bob Filner (D-CA), Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX), Rep. Henry Johnson (D-GA), Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-MI), Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA), Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA), Rep. James Moran (D-VA), Rep. Donald Payne (D-NJ), Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Rep. Edolphus Towns (D-NY), Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), Rep. Diane Watson (D-CA), Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) and Rep. Albert Wynn (D-MD).
Frustrated by the refusal of Democratic leaders to set up a process for holding hearings on his proposal, Kucinich will use an arcane House rule allowing for the prodding of the process with privileged resolutions to try and force consideration. Once introduced, a privileged resolution must be addressed within two legislative days.
Kucinich is expected to offer his privileged resolution on Tuesday. He expects to continue pushing it until the House acts. That action is likely to be a successful move by Democratic leaders to table the measure. Such a vote could be instructive, however, in that it would provide a rare measure of the willingness of at least some House members to respond to the popular will -- which is that Dick Cheney be held to account.
© 2007 The Nation
310 Comments so far
Show AllThank you so very much for taking this stand . It is long overdue and absolutely critical at this point in our history. The current administration has shredded the Constitution, ruined the economy, the environment, and destroyed the standing of this nation. We still have over a year these criminals can pursue their agenda. We need them out NOW. Not only impeached, but prosecuted as well. It is the OBLIGATION of our government to protect the Constitution and the citizens of the country and my disappointment in their failure to do so is deep and my anger burning.
You are a hero in my eyes, Dennis.
Paul B,
STILL call your rep. She needs to know that people in her district support impeachment.
That goes for everyone who has a repug rep. They need to hear from you as well. They may not support it, but if the fight gets ugly, and we should all hope that it will, it may determine how much resistence the rethugs will mount.
And call Pelosi, and Conyers, too. Conyers is the Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, where Articles of Impeachment are usually introduced. Kucinich bypassed this by bringing his priveledged motion forward, but that's also why it can be so easily defeated by a motion to table. Had it gone through the committee, it would be a bill, not a resolution, and as such would HAVE to be debated and voted on by the full House. So Conyers needs to know the strength of sentiments in this country regarding impeachment, particualrly if we want to go after Bush. Pelosi twisted Conyers arm when she took impeachment off the table, but if he breaks ranks, there's NOTHING Pelosi can do about it because he has the gavel in that committee.
Not to impeach Cheney is to embolden future fascists to seek election. IMO, Pelosi is therefore an enabler of fascism. The chase for personal power is blinding and should be rewarded with contempt.
The Bush/Cheney regime has made it all too clear how fragile democracy is and how quickly a nation can descend into fascism. And when torture becomes acceptable, barbarism cannot be far behind. These traitors have been holding the U.S and the world hostage far too long. We are at the 11th hour leading to climate and environmental catastrophe. Much can still be done to save the planet and civilization. And yet progress is at a standstill, usurped by the agenda of adolescent old men playing with power as a toddler would play with a shiny bit of glass. A war with Iran will further delay any action on the climate possibly for a decade, or even longer. We do not have that kind of time. This may well be our last chance. Impeachment MUST be our first priority.
Michele Bachman (R-MN) represents my district, so I didn't bother contacting her office. Any suggestion shy of putting gays and moderates in prison camps, reciting the Pledge twice a day at schools, or getting King George II's face carved on Mt. Rushmore as one of this country's true visionaries and she'll have nothing to do with it.
Only an insane, foolish or tricked people would vote so contrary to their own interests as they have with Bush. The crux of our problem is that if We The People were really in charge, we'd not have had him to begin with -- nor would we have an enabling "opposition" protecting him.
"Impeach, then render overseas for enhanced interrogation!"
Render indeed; their hair, fingernails, and hide ought to be good for something, maybe a nice tablelamp.
Yesterday, when I called my Reps office to ask her to vote against tabling the bill, I was first met by silence and then told that the bill was not being voted on this week, and was not on "the schedule." I did not know what to make of this. I insisted that from my own news sources that it was indeed coming up on Tuesday, whether or not it was on a schedule, and that would the Rep consider voting not to table and to allow debate on it. I overall got a really chilly reception that freaked me out. I felt like I was being "tolerated" as yet another nutjob. Very depressing. I think there is an atmosphere in the beltway (as opposed to outside where the real people live) that for some reason discussion of impeachment is "impolite" or taboo. I find it depressing that Bill and Hillary don't support it, making the argument that now REAL impeachable offenses are being committed (oops, sorry, I forgot--that's happening on Earth 2 where people are real, not corporate zombies).
Impeach, then render overseas for enhanced interrogation!
Kucinich/Paul
Paul/Kucinich
or my personal favorite
Kucinich/Olbermann
I M P E A C H
Here are the consequences of NOT impeaching the Cheney/Bush cabal:
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
Just talked to my representative aide, guess it's hardball time. Duty is to represent the public and do what is right. I'm NOT giving up, it's not over yet. Hang in there folks.
DENNIS "SEABISCUIT" KUCINICH
GO! GO! GO!
http://www.seabiscuitonline.com/
Thank Kucinich the right way.
Contribute HERE and NOW:
https://services.myngp.com/ngponlineservices/contribution.aspx?X=aDlDFFT9TMGh0ghebdP6VkYKCfcT%2fFNw
And for Christmas, give a copy of the Constitution!
http://www.dennis4president.com/go/homepage-items/get-your-special-edition-pocket-copy-of-our-us-const...
Here's a direct link to The Progressive Democrats of America's petition on HR333 that will be delivered to your Congressman's (-woman's) email:
http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/issues/alert/?alertid=10034256
The petition will require your zip+4, here's a link for that if you don't know it already:
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp
Be sure to follow up your email action with a call to your rep's office.
NOW is the time to act. Tell all your contacts. Good luck Commondreamers, and congrats on breaking 300 posts for this article.
drift
IMPEACH!!!!
THANKS BYRNE!!: Byrne November 4th, 2007 9:00 pm
EVERYONE CALL TODAY!!!
AND SEND THIS VIDEO TO EVERYONE!!!!!!
"WE'RE ALL GONNA RISE UP RIGHT NOW AND SAVE THE COUNTRY. WE ARE."
~NAOMI WOLF~
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5057555023195472231&q=naiomi+wolf&total=60&start=0&num=10&so=0...
Kucinich Will Impeach Cheney
Kucinich will force a floor vote on Tuesday (NOVEMBER 6!) using his right of personal privilege.
Rep. Dennis Kucinich introduced H.Res. 333 in April to impeach Vice President Cheney for his pre-war lies about Iraq and for threatening an invasion of Iran. And thanks to your heroic grassroots efforts, there are 21 co-sponsors.
Speaker Pelosi blocked Judiciary Committee hearings on the bill, but Rep. Kucinich will force a floor vote on Tuesday using his right of personal privilege.
Kucinich's courageous act will put members of the House on record. Are they going to fulfill their oath of office to "defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic"? Or will they support a Vice President whose lies about Iraq cost the lives of nearly 4,000 Americans and possibly $2.4 trillion in our tax dollars - and whose lies about Iran threaten to start World War III?
Call your Representative (not Senators) and tell them to support Kucinich's resolution to impeach Dick Cheney, H.Res. 333:
800-828-0498, 800-862-5530, 800-833-6354
More actions to support Kucinich's impeachment resolution:
http://impeachcheney.org
Kucinich explains this week's vote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSbGUOOQCpU
Brave New Films Video about Cheney's impeachable offenses:
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/4987-impeach-dick-cheney
"HISTORY SHOWS THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO IMPEACH CRIMINALS AND MURDERERS. THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT THEM BEHIND BARS."
~NAOMI WOLF~
http://afagenda.nonprofitsoapbox.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=41
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Kucinich is, by far, the best Democratic candidate running for President. Why? Because he actually possess integrity and wisdom and can't be bought by corporate interests. How sad that this man appears not to have a snowball's chance in hell of getting the nomination. Many Democrats make a great deal out of the idiocy and stupidity of so many fellow Americans who voted for Bush not once but TWICE! And yet, many Democrats appear poised to elect a Democratic Presidential candidate who will not be the very best available for the job.
Unfortunately, we are braindead and will not vote for Kucinich because of his height. How pathetic and shallow. and It's not salient that that's the reason we don't consider him to be a presidential material, but that is the reason. The fact that we're not aware is why we're braindead. If we were aware of it, and still didn't vote for him we'd just be shallow and pathetic.
btw... Hillary in 3 inch heels is 5'9. Whenever she's in public, she wears them. She for all intents and purposes, consider her 5'9. The average American female height is something like 5'3-5'4.
At least republicans are honest about their shallowness, saying over and over again Thompson (6'5 280lbs), and Romney (6'3) look "strong" and "presidential."
Forget race, and sex. If Obama was 5'3, looked young like webster, and didn't have a deep voice do you really think he would have gotten this far?
Kucinich Will Impeach Cheney (Democrats.com)
Call your Representative (not Senators) and tell them to support Kucinich's resolution to impeach Dick Cheney, H.Res. 333:
800-828-0498, 800-862-5530, 800-833-6354
More actions to support Kucinich's impeachment resolution:
http://impeachcheney.org
Kucinich explains this week's vote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSbGUOOQCpU
Brave New Films Video about Cheney's impeachable offenses:
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/4987-impeach-dick-cheney
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WOW! What alot of posts to this article! The only two candidates that have any grip on reality are Kucinich (D) and Paul (R). Why can't we have both - one as Pres and one as VP?
Yes alaskanfront and everybody, you want to save our democracy? Listen up.
We all know that Dennis has been trying to get H.Res, 333 to impeach Cheney onto the floor, but so far only about 21 congresspersons have signed on -- Baldwin, Brady, Clarke, Clay, Cohen, Ellison, Farr, Filner, Jackson-Lee, Johnson, Kilpatrick, Lee, MeDermott, Moran, Payne, Schakowsky, Towns, Waters, Watson, Woolsey, Wynn.
But this Honor Roll is not enough.
So -- it will probably be on Tuesday, November 6 -- Dennis, like David before Goliath, will march onto the House floor and exercise an arcane ruling that will allow him to unilaterally put before the House a "privileged resolution" calling for House debate on the impeachment of Cheney.
Here is what will happen,according to Dennis. Immediately someone will jump up and call for a vote to table his resolution. The kiss of death of course.
Here is where the Kucinich army can help to win the day. This is our big chance. Get on your phone tomorrow and call (or email) your congresspersons and tell them in your own well-chosen words that it is their duty to uphold their oach to protect and defend the Constitution and it is their duty TO VOTE AGAINST TABLING THE RESOLUTION and allow a floor debate on the impeachment of Cheney to go forward.
And right now get the word out to your entire email or phone list, and have all of them get the word out to all on their lists, and everyone get on the horn to Congress tomorrow and let them know in no uncertain terms that we expect them to vote against tabling the Kucinich priileged resolution to impeach. (If your congressperson has already signed, congratulate them and ask them to go after their collegues hammar and tong to convince them to vote against tabling.)
At the very least, friends,Dennis is bringing them out of their holes. They won't be able to hide. They will have to vote. And we will all be watching. And we'll then know exactly which bastards to vote out next year.
This is crucial friends. This will be a defining moment, our big chance. You wanna save our country and maybe the world? Bury Congress with your calls and emails tomorrow, and keep calling on Tuesday. Leave no doubt in their twisted little minds that we're mad a hell and we're not going to take it anymore and that Dennis is our man out there on the floor.
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.-That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed.-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem mostly likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Declaration of Independence, In Congress, Philadelphia, July 4, 1776
"off the table" means " not on the job." Impeachment is inherent to the balance of powers and can never be out of play. Any doubts about the outcome or repercussions don't lessen the duty to defend the Constitution, and besides, only impeachment avoids Presidential pardons. Our Congress critters are justifiably intimidated (anthrax, anyone? Wellstone? or even what they did to Max Cleland and Cynthia McKinney) but the world needs us to live up to being the "home of the brave."
alaskanfront,
I will take a stab at your question. Boycott corporations??
IMPEACH !!!!!
IMPEACH !!!!!
IMPEACH THE SON OF A B.....
KEM PATRICK
"I beleive that institutions are more dangerous than standing armies....If the people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency...The banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of there property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
Also Thomas Jefferson
CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION?
WHAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT, AND EXPEDIENT ACTION THAT WE THE PEOPLE CAN TAKE TO SAVE DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA?
The impeacment effort will almost certainly fail, but asserting it may be nearly as good as a win if enough discussion is raised. Cheyney's will to reinterpret the U.S Constitution to fit his prescription for a imperial executive has no tradition whatsoever in law or practice that I can see. The idea needs to be slapped down hard, and the only way to do that is to generate argument in the U.S. House. I highly commend Rep. Kucinich for his patriotic intolerance for politically narcissistic usurpation of power in our government. I suggest he go to work next on our incipient tolerance to the entire "government by Security State" political consciousness that we've developed gradually since World War II, especially since 9/11. It is getting truly dangerous in our seeming inability recognize what's happening and to define and limit it through our constitutional sources of power.
I just returned home from a weekend in Phillidelphia.
Maybe Denise could invite Nancy to meet with him in Carpenters Hall and ask her what is is that shes in fear of.
"I am not amoung those who fear the people.They and not the rich are our dependence for continued freedom"
Thomas Jefferson
Okay folks, here's some ammo for when you run up against those who think DK is too short to be president. Dennis is 5'7". That's the same height as were presidents John Adams and John Quincey Adams. Benjamin Harrison and Van Buren were each an inch shorter than Dennis, and James Madison, the Father of our Constitution, was anywhere from 5 to 3 inches shorter.
Among celebrities and movers and shakers of world history, here are some sample heights. Julius Caesar 5'7". Hitler 5'7". Napoleon, Mussolini, and Lawrence of Arabia all 5'6-1/2". Stalin and Margaret Thatcher 5'6". Emperor Hirohito 5'5". St. Francis 5'5". Tough guy James Cagney 5'5". Heart-throb Alan Ladd between 5'2" and 5'4". Mahatma Gandhi 5'4-1/2". Queen Elizabeth II 5'4". Queen Elizabth I 5'3". King Hussein 5'3". Nikita Khrushchev 5'3". Voltaire 5'3". Yuri Gargarin and Buckminster Fuller each 5'2". Keats 5'3/4". Queen Victoria 5'0". Clara Barton 5'0". Joan of Arc 4'11". Bonnie of Bonnie and Clyde 4'10". Alexander Pope 4'6". Have you ever heard anyone claim that any of the above were/are too short for their jobs?
Then there's Hillary Clinton, 5'6". Has anyone heard media complain that she's too short to be president?
As to complaints about ears. Has anybody besides cartoonists noticed the ears on The Shrub? And how about the wingspread on Obama?
I rest my case.
Yes IMPEACH all in the bush administration with blood on their hands. Ask the born-again rapture nuts about their conviction and few would actually follow through. Else why don't they strap on a bomb and detonate in the privacy of their own backyard? But leave us non-believers, 99% of the rest of the world's inhabitants, to persue our own version of rapture. Most would chose love, learning, wholesome food, water and air, and a peaceful community.
Ask the rapture participants at Jonestown, or the Plano Branch Davidians, and other fanatical cults if their rapture has put them in a better place. They speak to us don't they? Or ask the survivors of these rituals if they would attempt it again; they would not.
IMPEACH CHENEY AND BUSH!!!!!!
Thanks to the Cheney regime, I now feel as if I'm an American without a country. We live here, but we don't own it anymore, we're just renting on a month to month basis and the landlord can toss us out of our home whenever he desires to do so. That is the internal feeling I now have.
We have lost our country ____ and it's our fault.
Impeach them both, Bush AND Cheney!
If there is still anyone left out there who doubts the evil intentions of the bush cabal take a look at the biography of another egomaniacal texan, born-again christian who based his evil plan on the 'teachings' of the new testament http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh. Bush too is hell-bent on the apocalypse, i.e. the rapture of bush's anticipated WWIII. Their similarities scream IMPEACH BUSH before it is too late. Go Dennis!
What's wrong with America?
In the Democratic presidential candidate's debate, "NBC anchors Brian Williams and Tim Russert meticulously avoided following up on Congressman Dennis Kucinich's three references to impeachment but somehow found time to grill the contenders on UFOs and what costume Barack Obama would be wearing on Halloween."
I didn't see the debate, but admire Dennis Kucinich. It seems that the moderators are wankers. And surely seeing or watching for UFO is a more reasonable step than seeing a flash of light and believing that God is speaking just to you. President Bush experiences flashbacks as visions of the Lord.
ALASKANFRONT, I'll attempt an answer. ___ The answer is no.
We The People have NO say anymore. Our congress ignores us and if we attempt to protest, we are arrested, cuffed and tossed into a paddy wagon. Besides, far too many won't protest and that I fear is the problem. We have lost any democracy we thought we had and likely won't ever have it, due to the methods now used to count votes. Baaaaaaaaa, Baa, Baaaaaaaa.
No Guts-No Glory
I M P E A C H !
Ronald White..11/2...10:55 PM.... I haven't given up the quest. I simply present an alternative. I always have hope. I've wanted these bastards impeached since the coup in 2000. Get rid of Diebold and go back to a paper ballot nationwide. The hell with the nomination process. Allow the party members to vote DIRECTLY for their candidate. And while we are at it, demand the resignation of at least Scalia. Anyone involved in the electoral process...supervisors, workers et al...should be imported from some other nation and be certified PARTY NEUTRAL. Forget about the congress, totally influenced by special interests. Present the impeachment process as a referendum before the entire Citizen/voting population.
CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS QUESTION?
WOULD OBTAINING MILLIONS OF SIGNATURES IN SUPPORT OF IMPEACHMENT AND IMPRISONMENT MATTER?
I've got no idea why height is so important to society. This isn't the stone age. Or is it?
Short people can tower over others in many ways. There is a dignity, courage, etc. which transcends height. If height is important, go watch a basketball game instead.
Possibly the smallest congressman in stature, but with the largest pair! I keep waiting for the rest of the Dems (Pelosi, too) to grow some.
Some of the comments in this thread warn Kucinich to watch his back. Bush might have happily spent his life partying and jogging, letting Laura do the civic things, but the neocons needed the name and lack of track record and drafted him - grooming him as governor of Texas.
Cheney is the insider and Bush the lame duck. If 9/11 really was a wider conspiracy, and the neocons need another galvanizing event... Bush better stay in the White House, within a few minutes run of the shelter, for the next 14 months.
I don't know and I will not stack.
Rupee old bugger. Can you imagine me having control?
I am GGODD. Your stupid Yankees> Oh, god bless you...
Ah fuck off you idiots
Well I hate to disaboink ya.
get out of town or you'll be pushin' up pussies.
kucinich bows to NO ONE
Ephraim November 3rd, 2007 10:24 pm
"distantviews: "Yes, the time has come to open up the discussion on the Floor in Congress and get Impeachment into the Record." Except that the time had come for all that 3 years ago, if not 5. The time has gone. We're all out of time to impeach these bastards, which is exactly what the Dems intended."
There is still time. It just takes a Congress with the will to do it which is what we really lack.
Vote em out in 08 and get some people in that will represent WE THE PEOPLE!
Lobo Gris
thedeed -
what we need is a welcome center for earthians -- on the aliens' planet
assuming the aliens aren't Bush fans (Ferengi)
Everyone here can do their part by emailing, sending faxes and calling their member of Congress demanding they support this bill.
Then you can call your family and friends all over the US and ask them to do the same.
Now is the time to take action, Kucinich's bill may not make it but if everyone speaks out loud it won't hurt and maybe it will turn heads and votes.
It is of the utmost importance for our nation that we hold Bush and Cheney accountable for their crimes. Don't be surprised if Bush pulls a Musharraf and calls a national emergency and suspends the constitution. In essence, that's pretty much what he has been doing, only in a more slo-mo fashion, since "911". We have to stand up and fight against fear-mongering fascism.
We have to stand up and fight against perverted war profiteering.
We have to convince our neighbors, friends, and family that being a good citizen means defending the constitution.
Thank God (if there is such a thing) for Dennis Kucinich.
He provides a spark of hope in a black nightmare of despair.
I just sent this missive to my State Rep. He's a young guy probably with a hot car and he just got a DUI last week... I laid out my feelings...
Hi Glenn, you're still the man. DUIs happen to the best of us brother. ;)
Anyway as my rep I ask you to to represent my antiwar, pro impeachment stance in the House. My stance is, get the troops home NOW, lets impeach the VP with HR333, as explained by Congressman Dennis Kucinich and I'd like to see some sane marijuana legislation and an investigation into the Lingle/Superferry debacle.
Info on Dennis' resolution: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/11/02/4988/
I respect you Brother, but if you don't support Congressman Kucinich in your 08 campaign BY NAME you will not get my vote.
Yeah DUIs suck, but you are at a turning point, Glenn. It's a huge opputunity as I see it. You can tow the line and maybe retain your job next year. Or you can do some really bold and progressive things and get some national headlines and probably lose your job while feeling like you did THE RIGHT THING.
C'mon Dude show the nation how big your balls are. Do something really fucking bold and heroic! :)
I say that with respect, Sir.
Glenn, I'm counting on you Buddy.
Please Sir, respond to my email.
Respectfully,
Clark
Clinton Clark Robinson III
5180 Likini St 904
Honolulu, Hawaii 96818
808 256 8149
At 03:57 PM 11/3/2007, you wrote:
Dear Neighbors,
I have attached my latest legislative newsletter. It describes my actions during last week's special session and a fundraiser for Moanalua High School.
Please let me know how I can make life better for you and your family. Have a wonderful weekend.
Aloha,
Glenn
Glenn Wakai
Hawaii State Representative
Moanalua-Salt Lake-Aliamanu
State Capitol #316
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813
Tel: (808) 586-6220
Fax: (808) 586-6221
Rep. Kucinich is exactly right. The problem is that VP Cheney is the actual President of the 4th branch of the US Government. It is a secret organization subject to no one of the traditional 3 branches of government. Thus anything goes and we are existing under these conditions. Geo. W Bush is the Acting President to be the puppet between the Cheney branch and the rest of humankind.
Under these conditions, nothing will be known excepting as the subordinates to VP Cheney answer ionly to him. Marvellous.
http://americanresearchgroup.com/
Bush's approval is at historic lows. 25% approve,67% disapprove.
only 23% approve of his handling of the economy.
Now for the bad news. Looks like Romney will get the Republican nod.
Speaking of NBC anchor Brian (reticent corporate media whore) Williams, he is the host of Saturday Night Live tonight which is NBC and owned by General Electric who contributed large amounts of $$$$ to this Bush Cheney junta.
GE, we bring good wars to life.
Every day I email the Speaker and write IMPEACH CHENEY, THEN BUSH AND PROSECUTE! IMPEACH, IMPEACH, IMPEACH!!
I am voting for Dennis.
Impeach, Investigate, Indict, Imprison!
It's not 90% of the world population that's with us, clamoring for this. It's 99%.
If Cheney is impeached I am afraid Bush would let our entire GOV colapse trying to save the underground network they have built together in fat budget contracts and underground spit swaping with the Arabs ie..($100.00 a barrel)to name one. Impeach Bush then send Cheney to Guantanamo for legal (interogation) to find out how you loose enough scrupples to sell out the country you live in ????? That would give us more of what we need to know than 20 space missions. Not saying that isnt important also.
distantviews: "Yes, the time has come to open up the discussion on the Floor in Congress and get Impeachment into the Record." Except that the time had come for all that 3 years ago, if not 5. The time has gone. We're all out of time to impeach these bastards, which is exactly what the Dems intended. Off the table it's been since 2001, when a responsible Congress would have acted. Meanwhile, the likes of Common Dreamers are squabbling under the table over pipe dreams, with DK lighting the pipe for us. I'm not blaming him, except for his staying with the Enabling Party, thereby ensuring his irrelevance, because they're not going to listen to a word he says.
Everybody should read Craigfish's post: his or her post of November 3rd, 2007 8:25 am is totally on the money, especially in the first two paragraphs.
As for the remark in the third paragraph about a moderate Republican's becoming president, I would specify a bit more: the most important thing is a candidate that strictly abides by the Constitution, first and foremost.
In fact, someone who would stick to the Constitution, and not to the agenda of the military-industrial complex, would thereby also have to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Both those occupations violate the Constitution.
So do the military garrisons or bases established in those lands and many other ones. The same is true of the obscenely sprawling U.S. "embassy" being constructed in Baghdad: only an occupying power intent on staying for decades in Iraq and tapping into its riches and on policing and controlling its population and governing institutions would construct such an "embassy." It is not an embassy, it is a small city for a ghost government.
Impeach the sonofabitch, then impeach Bush's ignorant smirking ass, then hang them both. Or we can pussyfoot for another year with Pelosi and Reid so they can get their candidate elected (HRC) and we can continue on exactly the same course into the pit of hell we're now on. Something tells me the latter will be our fate.
With only 22 representatives co-sponsoring DK's bill to impeach Cheney, there's not a helluva lot of hope that's going anywhere. And since the MSM sets the psychic tone for an apathetic, entertainment-addicted public, we can't expect any recognition from those quarters that Kucinich quite actually exists, much less that he's trying to impeach the most evil, destructive asshole who has ever held ANY political office in this country's history.
The evil one and his sock puppet will go on ruling till January 2009, because Pelosi won't budge her idiot ass off the table where it obstructs the bills of impeachment we so desperately have needed for 5 fucking years. Why not impeach Pelosi? Then we might proceed to Kucinich's plan.
Gandhi said: First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you and then you win. Let us see this media attack on DK's credibility as the " then they fight you" He's definitely striking a nerve, and they are feeling the heat. Mixed metaphor, I know.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7158
It really can't get any more serious than the matter described in the article above. Somebody should try to save the world, and very, very soon. The patients are running the asylum.
Dennis must really be ruffling some feathers .I have heard references made about the UFO thing on three different networks, all making a joke of it.
Do the elites feel some pressure?
As far as Dennis having seen something he couldn't explain, he is in good company. Dozens of commercial airline pilots have reported seeing the same.
Astronauts on both the Gemini and Apollo missions also reported seeing UFO's and one crew actually got some very fuzzy film of something they could not explain, and neither can the rest of NASA.
Both Bush and Cheyney (and their whole band of thieves) are criminals, and need to be kicked to the curb!
Thank you Dennis and all you Common Dreamers for speaking loudly on this topic when fewother media outlets, politicians, or even blog collectives will.
If you appreciate Dennis's guts you can vote for him on http://democracyforamerica.com/ if you haven't already done so.
Peace~
I M P E A C H !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GIVE "IMPEACH!" A CHANCE
Thank goodness for Dennis!
I bet the MSM will try hard to sweep this under the rug, but I say,
IMPEACH!!!!
bush wasn't led astray, he's been bad to the bone all his life. don't kid yourself into thinking he's cheney's puppet. i put this squarely on him. he has the last say, and thats where the buck stops.
Welcome to the fold, bbr-001 November 3rd, 2007 5:55 pm. Generally we all agree around here, please recruit some of your Republican friends, at least turn them on to this site. :)
Bush/Cheney have already admitted--no, bragged---that they've committed impeachable crimes. Why has this been dragged out for so long?
Could it be because eventually Killary and the other Vichycrats in the Senate would have to cast a public vote that they'd rather not have to defend?
At least somebody is challenging Bush/Cheney authority. At least somebody is standing up for what is *right*. Impeach Bush/Cheney.
welcome, bbr-001. maybe we can bail en masse on both parties, and then go from there....
240 and counting...talk hard, peeps...keep it going...
cleanpeace.org November 2nd, 2007 5:06 pm, I voted 59 times! :)
Dear Speaker Pelosi,
Vice President Dick Cheney has violated some of the highest principals of our country and the majority of Americans support his impeachment for those violations.
It is now time for you to do your job and honor your oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America by supporting the efforts of Congressman Dennis Kucinich to call for a vote on impeachment this Tuesday, November 6.
If you fail to support Congressman Kucinichs' efforts on Tuesday, you not only do a great diservice to We the People, but you fail us completely. You not only do a great diservice to the US Troops in Iraq, but you fail them completely. They are risking their lives every day, on the pretext of fighting for Peace, Freedom, and Democracy. It is your job to fight for those same principals here at home.
I will not be voting for any member of Congress in future elections that does not support impeachment.
Respectfully,
Susan Lynn Rapp
Indeed... IMPEACH already!!! Both of 'em! Take Condi with ya!
It's good to hear that Kucinich lives on in spite of the assassination job the media whores continue to do to him. AmeriKKKa, this is your last chance for redemption. Demand that Dennis Kucinich be on the ballot and elect him. If we do not, what Shicklegruber and the Nazis did in the thitries and forties will look like a Sunday School picnic.
I'm with you, Richard Valentine. I'm from NY, but have already sent Cindy $500, with a promise to go all the way to $2300. Let's vote the bastards out, folks. wherever they are. Let's let them know that their constituencies no longer have state boundaries. If the powers-that-be want to make it all about money, then they should know that NYS dollars speaks as well for Cindy in California as they do here in NYS, where I hope those dollars will be used to send Schumer back to the private sector along with his new pet Attorney General -- maybe the two of them could share a waterboard. Feinstein can paddle along behind.
But let's pin-point the good guys and support them to the hilt, in every way that we can. This is no longer a regional situation. Our nation is at stake. Those of us who recognize that fact have a duty to act on our knowledge.
Dennis Kucinich has this Americans full support. IMPEACH!!!!
RIGHT ON LOBO GRIS!
LET'S KEEP THESE COMMENTS GOING!
AND BLOW THIS POST OFF COMMON DREAMS!
IMPEACH AND IMPRISON!!
To make it a round 225 and the most posted to article on CD, impeach both Bush and Cheney.
Lobo Gris
I M P E A C H !
Kucinich speaks for me!
I'm voting for Kucinich and for Cindy Sheehan for Congress instead of Speaker Pelosi here in San Francisco in 2008!
WATCH!
"WE'RE ALL GONNA RISE UP RIGHT NOW AND SAVE THE COUNTRY. WE ARE."
~NAOMI WOLF~
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5057555023195472231&q=naiomi+wolf&total=60&start=0&num=10&so=0...
1 INVOKE A TERRIFYING INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL ENEMY
2 CREATE A GULAG
3 DEVELOP A THUG CASTE
4 SET UP AN INTERNAL SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM
5 HARASS CITIZENS' GROUPS
6 ENGAGE IN ARBITRARY DETENTION AND RELEASE
7 TARGET KEY INDIVIDUALS
8 CONTROL THE PRESS
9 DISSENT EQUALS TREASON
10 SUSPEND THE RULE OF LAW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDakcj9AHZ8
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8539568674113648846&q=naiomi+wolf&total=60&start=0&num=10&so=0...
KUCINICH PUSHES BUSH IMPEACHMENT
http://www.dennis4president.com/go/in-the-press/kucinich-pushes-bush-impeachment/
"HISTORY SHOWS THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO IMPEACH CRIMINALS AND MURDERERS. THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT THEM BEHIND BARS."
~NAOMI WOLF~
http://afagenda.nonprofitsoapbox.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=41
Impeach! impeach impeach impeach impeach impeach impeach!
Go Dennis! go Dennis go Dennis go Dennis go Dennis go Dennis!
Hi sharetosurvive, I am also one who donated the full $2300 last time and have done so again. I believe in putting my money -- limited though it might be -- where my heart and soul is, regardless of any supposed "realities". I urge all of you to do what you can money-wise. Our universe is composed of energy. Money is nothing but energy. Put your money/energy into what you morally believe in, and not only will amazing things happen, but you will sleep a lot better at night.
So, after bombarding your representatives with demands that they do their constitutional (and moral) duty and allow the impeachment debate onto the floor, put your money/energy where your mouth is and bombard Kucinich for President with donations, whether small or large. Show the Democratic machine and the corporate-controlled media that THE PEOPLE are voting for impeachment through Dennis Kucinich.
To those who doubt DK's sincerity ... I am also one who is fortunate enough to have had several personal interactions with DK, and have come away from those encounters convinced of his complete sincerity. The first encounter was on a Sunday afternoon back in 2002 after I read the text of one of his speeches. My mind was blown. "Good God! Is it possible? Is there a man like this? How the hell did such a straight-shooter ever get into the U.S.Congress?" There was an email address given, so I immediately wrote, to what I thought was a campaign office, pouring out my glad heart, and asking what I could do, how I could help the campaign of this extraordinary man, whose name I had never heard before that moment, and was not even sure how to pronounce.
As I say, it was a Sunday afternoon. But it was only about an hour when, what to my wondering eyes should appear, but a response to my letter. From Dennis himself! As it happens, the email address was his own, and he had been sitting at his computer, pondering, when my letter arrived. He said that some of what I had said in my email had touched on his own thoughts and been helpful to him. He futher blew my mind by proceeding to talk about his love of animals, and he commented on the animal sanctuary with which I am associated ... God God! The guy had actually taken the time to check out our website before responding. This was a real person! This man really cared.
As the comedian George Goebbels used to say, "You can't hardly get congressmen like that no more."
And as to UFOs? I myself have seen/experienced 10 of them, in Australia, in Hawaii, out over the Atlantic, and here around my own home. And they were exactly that. Unidentified flying objects, things flying around in the sky that bore no relationship to anything in my previous experience. So what's the big deal? I don't mind telling the world about it, and I admire a U.S. Congressman, or President, who are also honest enough, big enough, to brave the ridicule of those little snots out in corporate-controlled media who try to make their own selves big by sniggering at the truly great.
Dennis needs our active support. Let's all of us be as brave, as confident, as audacious as Dennis.
I believe that Dennis Kucinich is one of the greats. I believe that the world has not even yet begun to comprehend his greatness.
Kucinich has also introduced a bill to build a welcome center for the aliens.
The difference between Dennis and the rest of the contenders for President is that he seems to take his role as protector of the constitution literally instead of sidestepping his conscience in favor of meaningless babble. How far will he get? Not far if the media shut him out or if the Bush crime family stir up some dirt. Go Dennis, go, and don't give up the fight. Curious to see if any Senators will back him. And don't forget, if you impeach and kick out both Bush and Cheney, we will still have Pelosi. Can anyone imagine Pelosi as President. Eat your heart out Hillary.
I'm afraid impeachment is not enough.
It's time for the American People to start educating themselves why this criminal cabal got into the white house in the first place. It goes back to Regan...the right wing has been planning to take back amerika for themselves then drown the government in a bathtub and make the American populace good worker bees in the New AmeriKan Century. It's been a power grab, always been a power grab for the rich and corporate whores.
The war has done nothing to protect us, only made us less secure by driving up the price of oil and bringing the specter of nukes as a "clean energy". BS. If Carter had his way, we would have already been independent.
IMPEACH • CONVICT • TRY FOR WAR CRIMES • IMPRISON • THROW AWAY THE KEYS
If not, there will be a revolution at some point in the country's future...
I commend Rep. Kucinich for his courage; many of the folks who have opposed the Bush Family cabal in the past have, in fact, met untimely deaths. GHWB probably won't like someone tryin' to incarcerate his baby boy.
Impeaching Cheney/Bush is a swell idea, but the important thing is to indict and convict! Then I think we should send the creepy bastards to a couple of nice cells in Guantanamo, where they can live out their miserable lives in "stress positions."
Daniel David - just for the record: few of us here have illusions that DK's impeachment resolution has much chance of going anywhere OR that if it did yeild a formal hearing process, it wouldn't produce its own blowback pitfalls.
But these aren't good enough reasons to oppose DK's effort. Why should we oppose a step in the right direction, especially when nothing else is happening?
celebrity - your rage at COMarc's chronic negativity made me laugh in half-agreement - but not full agreement. COMarc is well-informed and obviously no dummy. His major function in the collective brain here, has been (so far) to keep the CDer's in touch with worst-case realities.
There's a definite need for that, considering how giddy and unrealistically hopeful many posters' ideas are. Some systematic positive ideas from him, though, would enhance his credibility as a political thinker, I agree.
Impeaching is far too civilized for this mad dog.
Slap his fat bald body in Guatanamo and throw away the key.
He made his bed.
Now he can shit and piss in it.