Tim Russert: Stop the Inanity
Russert passes for a "tough" interviewer by adopting a confrontational pose rather than asking genuinely challenging questions. Which is why he's a terrible moderator for our presidential debates.
Last month, near the end of the Democratic presidential debate in New Hampshire, moderator Tim Russert -- known as "Washington's toughest interviewer" and perhaps the most influential journalist in America -- had one last chance to pin the candidates down with his legendary common sense, persistence, and no-bull style. This is what he asked, first to Barack Obama:
"There's been a lot of discussion about the Democrats and the issue of faith and values. I want to ask you a simple question. Senator Obama, what is your favorite Bible verse?"
When Obama finished his answer, Russert said to the other candidates, "I want to give everyone a chance in this. You just take 10 seconds." Predictable banality ensued. A foreign visitor unfamiliar with our presidential campaigns might have scratched her head and said, "This is how you decide who will lead your country?"
Indeed it is, because the process is controlled by Tim Russert and people like him. Russert's Bible question encapsulates everything wrong with him, and with our political coverage more generally. It seeks to make candidates look bad rather than finding out something important about them (if you want to explore a candidate's religious beliefs, you don't do it in pop-quiz form and give them just ten seconds to answer). It substitutes the personal anecdote for the policy position, the sound-bite for the substantive answer. It distills the debate into a series of allegedly symbolic, supposedly meaningful moments that can be replayed.
This type of debate question is not about what the candidate believes and would actually do in office, but about how clever the moderator is for cornering the candidate. And above all, it takes a genuinely relevant matter (a candidate's view of the universe) and crams it through a channel by which the thoughtful candidate will be pilloried and the shallow, pandering, overly rehearsed candidate will garner praise.
I have a fantasy that at one of these moments, a candidate will say, "You know what, Tim, I'm not going to answer that question. This is serious business. And you, sir, are a disgrace. You have in front of you a group of accomplished, talented leaders, one of whom will in all likelihood be the next president of the United States. You can ask them whatever you want. And you choose to engage in this ridiculous gotcha game, thinking up inane questions you hope will trick us into saying something controversial or stupid. Your fondest hope is that the answer to your question will destroy someone's campaign. You're not a journalist, you're the worst kind of hack, someone whose efforts not only don't contribute to a better informed electorate, they make everyone dumber. So no, I'm not going to stand here and try to come up with the most politically safe Bible verse to cite. Is that the best you can do?"
But we shouldn't hold our breath waiting for a candidate to say that, particularly not to Russert, who stands atop the insider media establishment. And like every skillful and experienced Washington hand, Russert knows that the way to the top is to pretend that for all the Georgetown cocktail parties you attend, for all the money you make, for all your heart flutters when the powerful treat you with deference, in truth you may be in Washington but you're not of it. No, deep down you're just a regular guy from the wrong side of the tracks, standing up to the effete swells of the ruling class.
As much as any politician, Russert has constructed a persona for the benefit of the public, an identity meant to give him the authority that his actual work might not. Like most well-designed personas, it has a basis in truth but has been polished and honed to a fine sheen.
The core -- if not the entirety -- of this persona can be summed up in the word Russert invokes at every opportunity, wielded like a talisman of authenticity: Buffalo. Buffalo, where the salt of the Earth trudge home from their exhausting blue-collar jobs, where the cheap beer is guzzled in corner bars, where the grime sits heavy on the walls of crumbling buildings, and the mills have all left town. Buffalo, where the young Russert got to know the real Americans on whose behalf he now speaks. Buffalo, which can bestow working-class credibility, even on a man who makes a reported $5 million a year and spends his summers among the decidedly elite at his second home on Nantucket. Although Buffalo is not technically in the "heartland," for Russert it functions the same way as the country's middle does for Republicans, as a shorthand of virtue, a geographical location out of which springs the values of modesty, piety, industriousness, and, most of all, the lack of privilege.
A look at Russert's press coverage shows how the image is reinforced. Peppered among articles chock full of admiring references to his allegedly tough interviewing style, one occasionally finds profiles like one from 2001 in Reader's Digest titled, "Our Man In Washington: Tim Russert's blue-collar smarts give politicians no place to hide." It had all the incisiveness the magazine is known for:
Unawed by power, unwavering in his interview technique, Tim Russert, host of Meet the Press, is tough and plain-spoken, with one foot placed squarely in the working-class neighborhood in upstate New York that he grew up in.
"Tim never forgets where he came from," says his sister Betty Buckenroth. "He carries Buffalo around in his bones."
And it shows. With cheeks where his jaw line should be, and the overall look of a man who never met a steak he didn't like, Russert is that rarest of creatures in national politics -- an average American inside the Beltway. Our man in Washington.
I feel more represented already. "Tim Russert is the anchor as everyman, the big talker with the street smarts, the man who hobnobs with presidents but aims his delivery at the working stiffs," wrote Howard Kurtz, with typical skepticism, in a 2004 piece in the Washington Post. Like many a celebrity profiler, Kurtz casts the most mundane act, when undertaken by a famous person, as an almost heroic manifestation of extraordinary character. Marveling at the fact that when Russert interviewed Yogi Berra, he got the Hall of Famer's autograph for his son and father, Kurtz writes that the event "makes clear that Tim Russert, media superstar, hasn't forgotten where he came from."
If an interviewer forgets to bring up Buffalo, Russert surely will. Asked by Kurtz how he avoids getting an inflated ego when he spends time interviewing presidents (a softball question designed just for Russert; try to imagine Kurtz asking the same thing of Tom Brokaw), Russert responded, "If you come from Buffalo, everything else is easy. Walking backwards to school, for a mile in the snow, grounds you for life." When Bill Moyers asked Russert whether he relied too much on the word of Bush administration officials during the run-up to the Iraq War, Russert replied, "Look, I'm a blue-collar guy from Buffalo. I know who my sources are. I work 'em very hard. It's the mid-level people that tell you the truth." Any questions about his being too close to the establishment are met with "Blue-collar! Buffalo!", brandished like a cross before the vampire of accountability. Russert may be the only journalist in America who considers all his conversations with government officials off the record unless they request otherwise -- an extraordinary gift to the powerful and an inversion of ordinary journalistic practice -- but that doesn't make him an insider. Because he's from Buffalo.
And one easy way to bring his hometown into any episode of Meet the Press is to invoke the Buffalo Bills, which Russert does again, and again, and yet again. It's his way of saying, "See, I'm just a regular guy -- I like football! And not only that, I have a favorite team, the one from my blue-collar home town!" That Russert no doubt actually prefers the Bills to other teams makes it no less of an affectation.
If nothing else, at least we're deep enough into the presidential campaign that we don't have to suffer through Russert's endless "Are you running for president? Are you? Are you?" quizzing of potential candidates. But that's what passes for being a "tough" interviewer these days: the pose of confrontation rather than genuinely challenging questions, the query designed to embarrass rather than enlighten, the worship of, rather than the challenge to, conventional wisdom.
The two parties' nominees will be decided three months from now, and we can be sure that in that time, at least one or two candidates will have their campaigns upended by the answer they gave to an absurd question, delivered by Tim Russert or someone like him, about what their favorite Bible verse is, or whom they want to win the Super Bowl, or what kind of beer they like. "Aha!" the reporters will shout, as though they actually unearthed something revealing on which the race for the presidency of the most powerful nation on earth should be decided. The one whose tiny little mind devised the question will be praised to the stars for his journalistic acumen.
And they'll continue to wonder why so many Americans are so cynical about our electoral process.
Paul Waldman is a senior fellow at Media Matters for America and the author of Being Right is Not Enough: What Progressives Must Learn From Conservative Success.
© 2007 by The American Prospect, Inc.
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56 Comments so far
Show AllFYI, a recent study shows 14% of Americans report having seen a UFO.
Great article, I was also really angry when Tim Russert with his grinning smirk threw that absurd UFO question at Kucinich.
Although I basically believe that a candidate running for the highest office in the land should be able to handle any and all questions, this was off subject and meant to make the congressman look ludicrous.
I knew immediately when he posed that spaceball question that he was trying to drive a stake thru the heart of Kucinich's rising popularity by reinforcing what most of America thinks, that Dennis Kucinich is an unbalanced and laughable candidate and should not be taken seriously.
Perhaps Russert thinks he has to bring Kucinich down a peg or perhaps he was trying to instill some humor into the debates at Kucinich's expense.
Whatever the reason, Kucinich is the antithesis of Russert, a snarling overweight insecure puppet for GE who pays his salary and a right wing supporter of the Bush Cheney regime.
He is certainly no evenhanded unbiased Brian Lamb type of journalist. I think Paul Waldman the author of this insightful article has clearly demonstrated Mr. Russerts obvious prejudices.
Softball questioner and enabler for Cheney and in many ways helped the Bush administration launch the invasion of Iraq, by not challenging the VP when he quoted Judith Miller and her NY Times front page story giving credibility to the existence of WMD.
He treats (escalate the war) John McCain with dignity and respect but conversely treats peace-promoting Kucinich as a lunatic who cavorts with extraterrestrial aliens and promotes socialized medicine.
How about Keith Olbermann moderating the next debate?
Clinton does not answer the questions – that's the problem. She showed that she can not answer a question directly and without conviction.
I watched the so-called "debate" in Philly and I thought Kucinich's comments to Russert and Williams about how they framed the questions and which questions were asked was RIGHT ON. It's as if Rush Limbaugh writes the qeustions. My thought is-- if the Dems are going to be asked Republikkkan talking point questions at every damn "debate", why aren't the Repubs asked questions by Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn and Naomi Klein? And the answer is because the military-industrial Establishment is Repulikkkan and it runs/owns the mainstream media and therefore crazed right wing points of view are always put forward as "the norm".
pax4all November 1st, 2007 12:45 pm WROTE:
"I've never been able to figure out why Russert is held in such high esteem."
There's another myth for you, because I don't!
In truth, the corporate media elevate their own, and it's easy now because we lost Rather, Jennings, and some of the other real newsmen.
If the news outlets were really about news these days we'd see Amy Goodman, and other outstanding investigative reporters on the networks.
Instead, young, inept "news" persons are hired so that they can become so grateful that they sell their souls. Hard thing to say, but it sure seems that way, when they suspend their common sense and ask stupid questions or make stupid "analysis."
Note: Cutting edge journalism by Tim Russert interviewing Cheney prior to the invasion of Iraq, Sunday, March 16, 2003 on "Meet The Press"
MR. RUSSERT: How's your health?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Good. No complaints.
MR. RUSSERT: How's your diet?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: My diet is good. I'm watched over very carefully by my wife and by doctors and I've got...
MR. RUSSERT: Do you prefer french fries or freedom fries?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: I don't eat them whatever they're called. I used to love them, but, no, I stay away from french fries. They're not on my diet.
And the entire transcript of an interview that might have stopped a war and prevented a million deaths and $Trillions stolen from the American taxpayer. At a turning point in American history, Russert rolls over and gives Cheney a platform:
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/bush/cheneymeetthepress.htm
And an example how to pretend you are a journalist while generating deadly lies.
The Nobel Prize and Russert's Lies :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-fiderer/the-nobel-prize-and-russe_b_9307.html
And as Marshall McLuhan once said:
" THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE "
Too bad Molly Ivins isn't still around to moderate one of these 'debates', then again Helen Thomas is still alive. How about a panel of her, Bill Maher, and George Carlin to come up with the questions? That could prove very interesting, informative, enlightening, and even entertaining. Might even get more people watching and interested in this important political process, eh?
In a country founded on the principle of separation of church and state it is an insult to all Americans to see/hear ANY questions regarding religion in a presidential debate (or any other political discussion actually). Not only are they irrelevant, but totally innappropriate.
As far as the presidential archive question asked in the debate goes this is a very important one. I believe ALL materials created during a presidency are the property of its citizens, and should be disclosed almost immediately after a president leaves office (with the exception of matters of current national security, but this is not license to classify EVERYTHING, as this super-secret administration so cavalierly does). How else are voters to, in a timely manner, discover past abuses of power, and make informed decisions about how to improve the executive branch by the power of their vote?
What is really telling for me about this,is that most Americans are happy to accept this as jounalism.
I am also going to give my praises for Amy!
I saw a report that Tim Russert's real name used to be Russet and that his cherished goal from childhood was to become a professional potato.
Success at last!
Thank god for Amy Goodman..She's all we have..[a true national treasure] with the exception of Bill Moyers and Frontline...some of the time
Finally someone tells the truth about this idiot.
I completely agree with this article, and I'm glad someone framed this issue and put it out there. I think Tim Russert is one of the worst interviewers I've ever seen. I have noticed that the people that get labeled "tough" are the ones that ask the silliest, least substantive questions. Katie Couric is another journalist labeled "tough" who isn't tough at all. While Russert is no doubt doing what his corporate paymasters require him to do, there does seem to be a part of him that believes the hype about himself. And his skills as a political analyst are abysmal. If you ever hear him asked by another journalist (and I use the term loosely) for his analysis of a situation, he simply reiterates the possible scenarios (given to him by the interviewer) and basically states that any one of them is the possible outcome which, of course, is a given.
The questions about Iran and nuclear weapons was truly bizarre. Simply asking that question, in the way he did, serves to validate the erroneous statements about Iran put out by Bush and Cheney. It's the lead up to the Iraq war all over again.
The mainstream media in the US is terrible. Thank goodness for the alternative media.
Russert is an exampler of the american way of life. How dare anyone criticize him.
Russert can be faulted for a number of reasons - including his continuing mistreatment of Kucinich - but he did ask some good questions in this last debate, and it's not his fault that the candidates can't give a straight answer. At one point, Russert asked what should be done about skyrocketing heating oil prices, which should've been a knockout for any Democratic politician. Instead, every one of the candidates completely dodged the question. The obvious thing would've been to say that the government should control prices, and clearly Russert was attempting to see whether or not anyone agreed with that idea. The fact that no one did shows that none of these candidates - including Dennis Kucinich - can really be considered progressive or even liberal.
Senile media have one function: to make citizens more senile. As Franz Fanon the great psychologist of empire told us, they are "the bewilderers," paid to pretend to be sharing the quest for truth and justice while betraying them and the people with every breath, exploiting the blood they try to draw themselves with idiotics they consider cleverness....Russert always made me gag. Bill Moyers' study of the run-up to Iraq War nailed Russert beautifully(when asked about how/why Cheney was citing his own planted NY Times stories on Russert's show, and went unchallenged). "I didn't know he was behind that story then," Russert said; although a few other journalists knew. "Why didn't you pick up the phone and do some checking?" Moyers asked. "I guess I should have," Russert shrugged, looking as if he had books of matches burning between his toes....
Wow - Paul - your "fantasy answer", at least, was beautiful.
From what I've read, there actually seemed to be times in this old world where leaders could and would say such things.
Russert-"There's been a lot of discussion about the Democrats and the issue of faith and values. I want to ask you a simple question. Senator Obama, what is your favorite Bible verse?"
I can say it in ten seconds: "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven."
@namoses November 1st, 2007 7:16 pm
Thanks! You said it for me.
Russert is bought and paid for. Some people will trade their soul reputation and fellow citizen's for a paycheck. That's Mr. Russert.
I grew up in a working-class family in Buffalo, New York and attended Russert's alma mater for high school. The school, run by Jesuits, is known as one of the two insitutions in Buffalo where the city's elite send their boys (I was admitted, I am convinced, because of my athletic abilities). I always felt out of place going to school with the most privileged kids in the area. Tim Russert was selected as the keynote speaker at my graduation. His speech was all about growing up among the common people of Buffalo (blah, blah) and how it is possible to succeed (like he had) if you work hard enough. He emphasized in his speech how important it was that, as we ascend that ladder of success, we never forget the people on the bottom. We must reach down (I remember him extending his hand down along the podium) and offer a helping hand to the people below. Needless to say, the speech brought tears to my eyes. It was amazing to see a member of Buffalo's working-class - someone like me! - be honored at such an elite institution. For the first time, I didn't feel out of place; I felt proud. I was convinced by his speech that not only can a member of the working-class succeed, but success does not necessarily mean that one must compromise one's values. One can occupy a position of power and still fight for those who are poor, oppressed, and underrepresented. I took an interest in Russert and followed the trajectory of his career over the years. What a profound disappointment he has been. Russert has become just another corporate media hack, a sell-out, a tireless advocate for those in power. I suspect he always was but I was young enough to be persuaded by his dog and pony show. He pretends to be a representative of the common people as he serves the powers-that-be. Russert built his career on this charade. I think people are catching on, as I have, to what a fake Tim Russert is.
I agree with COMarc on this. The writer of the article seems to be under the impression that Russert is asking stupid questions because he is stupid. He is asking stupid questions because that is what GE wants him to do, as COMarc has pointed out.
The level of discourse at these "spectacles" or "events" (they do not deserve to be called debates) needs to be kept at a very delicate level of banality. The discussion must not get too close to anything that has anything to do with poor people or with disenfranchisement or inequality of any kind (of course these actually go together). This is why Kucinich must be ridiculed, put into a much tighter "discursive box" than any of the other candidates (the utter absurdity of the UFO question reveals the degree to which the MSM must go to control him--I suppose his jokey appearance on Colbert, though entertaining and charming, could have served the same purpose). He miraculously speaks the truth and thus is very dangerous. The others could only dream of being smart and honest enough to be that close to the truth. These "spectacles" are actually very revealing of the other, very real war that is ripping apart this country, the one we are hashing out here, that of regular, thinking people against corporate control of reality. I think we're mad as hell, and we're reaching the point where we're not going to take it anymore.
A question: What has the Bible and religion got to do with politics? In Canada, the two do not generally co-relate. It is upsetting, to say the least, that one must wear what is a very private and personal issue on one's sleeve if one is to be determined a good leader. I could not care less if my Member of Parliament is religious or not, I just want to know that she represents us and the issues that affect us such as maintaining our social safety nets such as single payer health care, free quality schooling, living wages, etc.
When religion is so closely entwined with politics, the country can then be said to be a Theocracy. No thanks! Russert can be his idiot self asking such bland questions: the issue that this article brings up for me is "What are our neighbours becoming?" From religion in politics to torture and rendition, to impoverishing children further as well as denying them health care, to protecting the fetus over the live child, to terrorizing the world with "World War III" complete with nuclear devastation and I could go on.
I understand that Canada is not the shining beacon, but can we have the America back that we used to have? Mom and apple pie is preferable to bibles and bombs and impostor piety to attract voters.
I'd like to see Imus and Robin Williams moderate the debates.
The only thing you need to know about Russert and the "Meet The Press" charade is the sponsors of this state propaganda: oil companies and arms producers. The same goes for "Washington Week In Review" with Gwen Ifill and her cast of beltway bozos. Again, sponsored by oil companies and arms producers.
Is there anyone here that doesn't really get it, or do I need to repeat it?
Daniel David November 1st, 2007 11:45 am
"Tim Russert again participated in the 10/30 MSNBC debate with seven Democratic candidates. A lot of dumb questions were asked, though Tim didn't personally ask all of them. Asking Dennis Kucinich whether he has really seen a UFO was not helpful. Pressing the candidates to PLEDGE that Iran will not get a nuke was not helpful. Pressing Hillary about when The National Archives will release her White House records of 1993-2000 was not helpful. Baiting Edwards, Obama and Clinton about how critical they are of each other was not helpful."
I agree with you except for the question to Hillary about her White House records. She is claiming experience based on that time in the White House. The only way that that can be scrutinized to determine if that is valid is if those records are available.
As for Kucinich. There are thousands of billions of stars in the universe and we already know that planets orbit many of them. It is completely arrogant to believe that we are the only intelligent life that has ever arisen in that vastness. It is also not implausible to believe that others may have arisen before us. Far enough in advance in fact to have mastered space travel. Saying that though the question IMO was an effort to further portray him as a loony fringe candidate.
Lobo Gris
better yet, have a town hall debate like the Clinton, Bush, Perot debate and let the people that are to be served by these politicians ask the questions.....
russert is a republican stooge.
they need to put the debates back on PBS and have Bill Moyers moderate with Jim Leher. and ask real questions not well scripted bullshit non questions, asking Dennis if he's seen a UFO, Dennis' response should have been "what the hell does that have to do with healthcare or Iraq"
colleen 11/1 3:11p:
Good job. Thank you.
Neither side has yet held a debate. They have held only exercises in sound bites and cynicism, with the candidates jiggling on the strings of smug narcissists and egotists like Russert and Blitzer and arrogant loudmouths like Chris Matthews, none of whom gives a damn about the people of this country, or its laws or its Constitution. They care only for their careers and their public image. The so-called leader of the free world is to be chosen by a long series of bad marionette shows run by puppets.
Oh groan, what is next, Baba Wawa asking all the candidates "if oo were a twee, what kind of a twee would oo be?"
What is most curious about this story is that Obama was baited like that before in a debate with respect to why someone should support him rather than oh say, Hillary Clinton (I don't remember who attempted the question) and Obama refused to answer it by saying "I'm runnimng against George Bush and not any of these other Democrats and I refuse to be drawn into divisive discussions of any fellow Democrats." End of discussion.
He should have said,"I am running for President of the United States and not Pope or any other religious leadership position and I think such a question is both irrelevent to my qualifications as well as divisive to any and all Americans who for whatever reason do not have any particular regard for any scriptural writings."
The more stupid dumbness candidates are willing to suffer from interrogators, the more lame dumbness these prima donnas will inflict on them.
Jesus wept.
I'll only tune in if Jon Stewart moderates.
PS ... just the fact that its always Republican partisans like Russert who are running the debates of the Democratic candidates tells you an awful lot of what's going on.
If you listen closely to right-wing Christians, you'll notice they tend to refer to other parts of the Bible besides the Gospels that contain the teachings of Jesus Christ. They tend to refer to the bloody, revengeful God of the old testament, or the later book of Revelations stuff in the new testament.
Jesus and his love your fellow man message is conspicuously missing most of the time.
panis et circi
As usual, this article completely misses the entire point. I'm constantly struck about how the authors on the left who write this stuff just don't get it. The commenters out here usually do, but the author's of this stuff don't.
This has nothing to do with Tim Russert. If Tim Russert wasn't there, you'd see exactly the same thing around a different name and face.
Tim Russert is executing the policy of GE. GE is among other things a leading weapons manufacturer. GE has absolutely no interest in having a meaningful political debate. In fact GE wants exactly what they have today. A banal meaningless personality contest where none of the candidates really have different policies in terms of how much $$ goes to GE for weapons. And where the basic economic and foreign policies are never challenged. For instance, GE certainly wouldn't want a meaningful public debate on shutting down factories in the US and moving those jobs overseas.
So, Tim Russert does exactly what GE wants. Thus his high management position in NBC News and thus the glowing references to him in the other corporate controlled press. But this has nothing to do with Tim Russert, and if Russert decided tomorrow he couldn't support this policy and more, then he'd quickly be replaced by a new name and face who did exactly what Russert is doing to the same glowing reviews.
militant liberal and dongisselbeck
Many people seem to forget or are ignorant that Jesus was crucified by an empire for undermining it from within with basically socialist philosophy. Certainly the early Christians were not capitalists. And Jesus was a pacifist and offered no physical resistance to the Romans. There are many Bible verses that could be used.
How Jesus and his message have been corrupted by the right wing is really blasphemous. But there is a Bible verse for that too. You will know them by their works..and we are seeing the works of the fake Christian Bush in what is happening in Iraq.
The Old Testament is more militant and these right wing people who say they are Christians often quote from the Old Testament. The New Testament undermines their agenda for war and domination by the US
Way to go, Annabelle!
These so-called debates are an insult to the voters and the candidates. Give the candidates some real issues to discuss and banter about.
Who cares WHO saw a UFO......SHEESH!!
dongisselbeck,
I think Kurt Vonnegut gave an explanation in "The Breakfast of Champions" that applies here. He said something to the effect that many Christians take such passages to mean that you are in big trouble when you mistreat (e.g. ignore their needs of) anyone who is well-connected, like Jesus supposedly was with God. And so they would not generalize that passage to cover every human, just every elite well-connected human. That may be part of the reason they are so determined to give as much as possible to the elite and well-connected.
Russert, Mathews, and some others brag about their Jesuit education. They will always be tools of the system.
As long as we're quoting Bible verses, how about Matthew 25:41-43: "Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me". This needs to be constantly thrown in the face of every politician who pretends to be a Christian. If this passage is taken with anything like the rigor the religious right demands of other passages, there can't be more than a few dozen Americans in heaven. I suspect that reading this passage, even discussing it, are things Americans cannot do. Letters to the editor and web comments on it elicit almost no response, especially not from the holier than thou bunch. I challenge any right winger to explain away these words of Jesus.
russert is pathetic. baiting kucinich, trying to make HIM look crazy. that's the tactic they are using. cretins. next thing, they will be asking chris dodd whether he would allow twittney spears to get custody of her kids.
"Hillary's Philly aftermath: A little less than 48 hours after the Philly Phracas, the Clinton campaign is in the midst of giving up denying they lost the debate. Instead, they're trying to define how they lost. Strategy One: blame the media. She's the front-runner, everyone saw her as the target, and the campaign appears intent on crediting the moderators for her problems — since it's easier to blame the media...."
Don't you find it interesting that the media that has been instrumental in escalating Clinton to the forfront is now targeted for not kissing her ring.
I blame the medium far more than the man. It plays to shallowness, ignorance and short attention-spans. That said, I've been mulling over for far more than ten seconds which Bible verse I would have cited. It would have been great if someone had used this:
"A camel shall pass through the eye of a needle before a rich man shall enter the kingdom of heaven."
That's one of the verses Republicans and their DLC allies would like to white out from the Gospels.
Russert is a media whore pimping himself for more air time. It's a game to him and he is without accountability. He doesn't have the integrity or the courage to challenge his corporate johns.
Hoa binh
Why not have MSNBC's Keith Olbermann as moderator next time, if there is a next time? And include Mike Gravel in the "debate" before you start glorifying our "democracy".
I've never been able to figure out why Russert is held in such high esteem. As an interviewer he's confrontational, which is good, but he's inept and incredibly dull at following-up. I've never seen him take advantage of an opening provided by the subject of an interview.
It is disturbing, like watching a train wreck in slow motion, to see that all of Hillary's advantages in the Democratic primaries (one woman vs. several men, connection to last Democratic administration, more support by Wall Street and the military-industrial complex, generally more favorable coverage from corporate media than other candidates), will disappear in the general election contest. It is looking more and more like the corporate oligarchs are setting up a Hillary vs. Giuliani contest where the 90 percent corporatist warmonger (Clinton) will most likely lose to the 100 percent corporatist warmonger (Giuliani).
Thank you, Mr. Waldman, for drawing attention to the pathetic, sports-fan mentality of presidential campaigning today. Tim Russert exemplifies what is wrong with "the Press"--he will stoop to anything to embarrass a candidate and to burnish his own image and persona. He is a despicable commentary on the state of contemporary journalism. And nearly all the candidates are willing to play the game--to burnish THEIR images and personas.
The issues don't count. The truth does not count. We have in our incumbent president a criminal of historic proportions, and none of the "top tier" Democrats (or their colleagues in Congress) are willing to confront him, to call him to account. The Democrats' behavior is, I believe, treasonous; Russert's, at least, is merely nauseating.
When will the media get real and stop calling these staged performances debates??
Tim Russert is an idiot! There is one place to find his book "Big Russ and Me": in the fireplace!
Bible Verses that Advocate Religious Privacy
Here are some Bible verses advocating privacy in the relationship with God. An all knowing God knows what a person believes and where they are spiritually. My comments in parenthesis....
Matthew 6:5
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
( Don't use your religion to gain favor among people)
Matthew 6:6
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
(Have a personal relationship with God)
Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
(Don't pray in unison with others, and say words that have no meaning for you and your spiritual situation)
Matthew 6:8
Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him
(God knows where you are spiritually)
I would be more likely to consider the author's righteous indignation if I hadn't just read that part of Clinton's campaign strategy to do damge control after the last debate was to attack the media, besides framing it as a sexist event.
Campaign call reveals Clinton debate concern
By Sam Youngman
November 01, 2007
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's (D-N.Y.) top advisers, doing damage control after the candidate's debate performance Tuesday, told supporters on a conference call Wednesday that the campaign needed more money to fight back.
Mark Penn, Clinton's senior strategist and pollster, and Jonathan Mantz, the campaign's finance director, told the supporters on the call, which The Hill listened to in its entirety, that they expect attacks from Clinton's rivals to continue, and she will need the financial resources to deflect their attacks.
Clinton came under withering assault in the Philadelphia debate, and some supporters on the call agreed with analysts that she stumbled.
"I wouldn't say she lost her cool," one caller said. "But I would say she lost her footing."
The caller addded that Clinton's response to questions about records from her time in the White House that have been sealed by the National Archives "made me roll my eyes."
The object of the call, and a follow-up breakfast Thursday morning with campaign chairman and former chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) Terry McAuliffe, was apparently to stop whatever bleeding the senator might have sustained during a debate in which Clinton wore a bull's-eye on her back throughout the evening.
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/campaign-call-revea...
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First thoughts: Hillary's Philly Aftermath
Posted: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:20 AM
by Domenico Montanaro
Categories: First Glance
From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Hillary's Philly aftermath: A little less than 48 hours after the Philly Phracas, the Clinton campaign is in the midst of giving up denying they lost the debate. Instead, they're trying to define how they lost. Strategy One: blame the media. She's the front-runner, everyone saw her as the target, and the campaign appears intent on crediting the moderators for her problems -- since it's easier to blame the media (a trick usually reserved for the
Republican side) than see one of her opponents get any credit. Indeed, Mark Penn yesterday held a conference call with key campaign fundraisers and repeatedly talked about the moderators. Our response: what part of front-runner doesn't the campaign understand? We are two months and two days from the first round of voting, the tests are supposed to get harder -- not easier.
*** Strategy two: Don't get caught in a back-and-forth with any one foe. Lump Obama and Edwards together so that Obama, in particular, doesn't get to look like he's rising above it all. (Camp Clinton loves that Obama's negatives have been rising; they'd like to see that trend continue.) For example, the campaign yesterday released a video entitled "The Politics of Pile-On," a take off on Obama's "politics of Hope," even though it was Edwards who led the charge on Tuesday. And, of course, engaging Edwards directly can breathe life into him and benefit Obama at the same time. Just ask veterans of the '04 Edwards campaign.
*** Strategy three: use the debate to galvanize women so that it looks like a bunch of men ganged up on a woman, rather than simply a bunch of opponents ganging up on a front-runner. Coincidentally or not, Clinton today returns to her alma mater, Wellesley College, a liberal arts college for women. Think she'll bring up Tuesday's debate at the school?
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/01/44248...
Russert is one of many complicit media whores paid very well to "manufacture consent" for American imperialism, war crimes and other creations of his corporate masters.
By presenting the appearance of controversy along with pseudo-journalism he sets the stage for insidious lies designed by elite corporate criminals.
And like the White House and Congress, he has the blood of the innocent on his hands.
Tim Russert again participated in the 10/30 MSNBC debate with seven Democratic candidates. A lot of dumb questions were asked, though Tim didn't personally ask all of them. Asking Dennis Kucinich whether he has really seen a UFO was not helpful. Pressing the candidates to PLEDGE that Iran will not get a nuke was not helpful. Pressing Hillary about when The National Archives will release her White House records of 1993-2000 was not helpful. Baiting Edwards, Obama and Clinton about how critical they are of each other was not helpful.
We can't blame everything on Tim alone, but MSNBC could have done a lot better job. So what's the deal? Is MSNBC a closet supporter of Republicans, or just trying to catch up with FOX on coyness, or what?