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The Democrats Who Enable Bush
President Bush has no better friends than the spineless Democratic congressional leadership and the party's leading presidential candidates when it comes to his failing Iraq policy.
Those Democrats seem to have forgotten that the American people want U.S. troops out of Iraq, especially since Bush still cannot give a credible reason for attacking Iraq after nearly five years of war.
Last week at a debate in Hanover, N.H., the leading Democratic presidential candidates sang from the same songbook: Sens. Hillary Clinton of New York, and Barack Obama of Illinois and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards refused to promise to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq by 2013, at the end of the first term of their hypothetical presidencies. Can you believe it?
When the question was put to Clinton, she reverted to her usual cautious equivocation, saying: "It is very difficult to know what we're going to be inheriting."
Obama dodged, too: "I think it would be irresponsible" to say what he would do as president.
Edwards, on whom hopes were riding to show some independence, replied to the question: "I cannot make that commitment."
They have left the voters little choice with those answers.
Some supporters were outraged at the obfuscation by the Democratic front-runners.
On the other hand, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, and Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., are more definitive in their calls for quick troop withdrawals.
But Biden wants to break up Iraq into three provinces along religious and ethnic lines. In other words, Balkanize Iraq.
To have major Democratic backing to stay the course in Iraq added up to good news for Bush.
Now comes a surprising Clinton fan.
President Bush told Bill Sammon -- Washington Examiner correspondent and author of a new book titled "The Evangelical President" -- that Clinton will beat Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination because she is a "formidable candidate" and better known.
Sammon says Bush revealed that he has been sending messages to Clinton to urge her to "maintain some political wiggle room in your campaign rhetoric about Iraq."
The author said Bush contends that whoever inherits the White House will be faced with a potential vacuum in Iraq and "will begin to understand the need to continue to support the young democracy."
Bush ought to know about campaign rhetoric. Remember how he ridiculed "nation building" in the 2000 presidential campaign? Now he claims he is trying to spread democracy throughout the Middle East.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is another Democratic leader who has empowered Bush's war.
Pelosi removed a provision from the most recent war-funding bill that would have required Bush to seek the permission of Congress before launching any attack on Iran. Her spokesman gave the lame excuse that she didn't like the wording of the provision. More likely, she bowed to political pressure.
Is it any wonder the Democrats are faring lower than the president in a Washington Post ABC approval poll? Bush came in at 33 percent and Congress at 29 percent.
Members of Congress seem to have forgotten their constitutional prerogative to declare war; World War II was the last time Congress formally declared war.
Presidents have found other ways to make end runs around the law, mainly by obtaining congressional authorization "to do whatever is necessary" in a crisis involving use of the military. That's the way we got into the Vietnam and Iraq wars.
So what are the leading Democratic White House hopefuls offering? It seems nothing but more war. So where do the voters go who are sick of the Iraqi debacle?
Helen Thomas is a columnist for Hearst Newspapers. E-mail: helent@hearstdc.com.
Copyright 2007 Hearst Newspapers



155 Comments so far
Show Alli am sorry to disagree with malcolm...but i do not believe the dems want to contol us..i believe they want to PRESERVE the same old force that has been controlling us since nov.22,1963.for on that day george sr. and his crime syndicate took control and have been the power behind the throne of every single pundit or sitting president,cia,pentagon and unforturnately contols all our weaponry and space programs.as frank zappa so aptly put;'our government is the entertainment branch of the military"there used to be a third party system,founded by ex-president adams the"anti-masonic party" i was an active member of a third party"the peoples party" and now i consider myself a 'ZAPPACRAT' (sally)
As always, Helen tells us like it is. Now, if she could tell us why the Main Stream Media have deleted the candidates who offer what America is looking for. I have to assume that the MSM is paid to promote certain candidates and paid even more to 'unpromote' other candidates. Sort of hard to believe that any topnotch news organization would be that hard up that they would deliberately deny certain candidates the right to express their views. Nothing surprizes me any more.
Iraq Shiite leaders agree to end rivalry
By KIM CURTIS, Associated Press Writer
"Two of Iraq's most powerful Shiite leaders agreed Saturday to end a bitter rivalry that has led to armed clashes in Baghdad and across the oil-rich south."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6977017,00.html
Real progress at last, I hope!
The problem isn't just the Democrats who enable Bush--it's the Democrats as a whole. The Democratic party is a corporate, pro-war party. The left-wing and "progressive" Democrats provide political cover for the right-wing of their party. Until progressives are willing to break from the death-embrace of their corporate party (which was never "ours" to take back) we will never win.
The only times in history when the Democrats have done anything progressive was in the presence of mass social movements--a militant labor movement in the 30's (millions of people on strike) and the mass civil rights and antiwar movements of the 60's & 70's. in such a climate the Democrats were forced to shift to the left because they needed our votes. as long as we *let* the Democrats take us for granted they will keep ignoring our demands and keep shifting to the right.
the only way to get the Democrats' attention is to abandon them. this is a lesson that evangelicals and the Republican party have learned well. but if we build the sort of mass movement that can pull the Democrats left--guess what? it will show that we don't need the Democrats, because we can win progressive victories from the Republicans too. what it takes is grassroots organization and standing up for our demands--relying on ourselves, not the empty promises of corporate politicians.
It is about time that the citizens of the US realize that it is run by a ONE PARTY SYSTEM!. The democrats and the republicans both serve the same master: the corporations. And the biggest master corporation that feeds them is the OIL industry, with the AIPAC lobby not too far behind.
Some say the democrats are the lesser of the two evils. While that may have some semblance of truth, the bottom line is that they are still evil! It is high time this country adopts a third viable party that is completely divorced form these two evil parties.
Two wings of the same corrupt bird. The mainstream media talks about our political system as if its legitimate. Current campaign financing is the most blatant affront to our "democracy" that exists.
Wasn't Pelosi talking much tougher a year ago? George Senior seems to be fond of the Clintons and I believe he's making more decisions today that W. They seem to have cornered the market on this presidential thing.
All of a sudden Hillary's the darling of the left according to the "media". Important to note that Kucinich has handily won every debate they let him talk at but even more interesting is that he isn't listed as a candidate on some of the major polling that is reported.
It's worse than people realize.
Kudos to Helen Thomas for keeping her scruples all these years and acting as a beacon of truth in the sea of filth that passes for journalism.
Right on Helen! Edwards and Obama are spineless and Clinton is a true Chickenhawk.
Exactly why it is time to abandon the Democratic Party and endorse and support third party or independent candidates for public office. The "change the party" mantra is a dog that won't hunt anylonger and anyone buying into that fallacy is not going to change their mind about anything. It is time to stop supporting the Iraq war and the top tier Democrats who assert occupation into the next decade. Those are Hillary, Obama, and Edwards. Candidates who assert otherwise: Gravel, Kucinich, Nader, and Richardson.
My vote is going for Richardson.
The best choice for the US would be a contest between Bill Richardson and Ron Paul. I could be wrong.
As I just noted elsewhere:
Where does she get support - or Obama for that matter.
We keep hearing about it, but I'm beginning to think nobody's asked the opinions of the grassroots. I know many Democrats in my area and NOT ONE of them would vote for either Hilary or Obama for Democrat candidate and definitely not to be president.
I guess the pundits think that because rich money is being donated, the hoi-polloi will have no choice but go along.
I really don't think that will happen.
"So where do the voters go who are sick of the Iraqi debacle?"
The Green Party.
"So where do the voters go who are sick of the Iraqi debacle?"
We Are The 801: The Green Party.
I second that.
So where do the voters go who are sick of the Iraqi debacle? O, Canada!
Consider that the Republicans fully expect to lose the next Presidential election and subtlely seek the most palatable Democratic candidate. Given the triangulating record of Bill Clinton his wife seems to be the best Republican lite DLC-drifter of the bunch. Hence the subtle nudges. At the same time, any hopes of winning have been pinned on the grade school like scorn the mere mention of her name evokes amongst their base voters. Hillary is their best hope either way. Opinions?
It's even worse for conservatives - we have little choice with only Ron Paul - a libertarian - opposing wars of aggression. The rest of 'our' candidates are drooling over more wars in the ME - and who knows where else - while destroying the US military. It used to be that only Democrats started wars - only Democrats were fiscally irresponsible - but now there really is only One Party - the Corporatist Party, with DFL and GOP branches.
Where do the voters go? Good question, I wish I knew.
armybrat,
I'm not sure what conservativism means.
There's no free market -- it's an inherrently predatory, inherited/caste, now global and monopolized, market.
There's no forgiveness or turning the other cheek -- it's preemptive war on false claim and torture.
There's no fiscal responsibility -- it's been black-hole budgets and massive deficits.
I should put an additional plug in for the Green Party. Although many of the stances with regard to abortion and GLBT tolerance appear "liberal", the Green Party by and large has some (positive and old-style) "conservative" elements in it: small and decentralized government, environmental conservation (root word = conserve) being a couple of them.
Lieberman got in as an independent with votes from Republicans. Look for the same to happen with Hillary in 2008 where the Repubs are pretty sure they can't win.
Lobo Gris
I think I would like to see Pelosi loose in the Democratic primary. Perhaps the Washington Democrats would get the message then.
I think I would like to see Pelosi loose in the Democratic primary. Perhaps the Washington Democrats would get the message then.
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Ah, editing works slowly, and gives error messages along the way.
When dealing with Democrats, you have to pay attention to what they are saying. So, while they would mouth pleasantries about how the Iraq war has been misconducted, its very important to pay attention to their answers when forced to answer a direct question.
Thus, it is very important to grasp the fact that not one of these top contenders would make the firm promise to have our troops out of Iraq by 2013!
If as a voter you think that our troops should be out much sooner than this, YOU CAN NOT VOTE DEMOCRAT in the 2008 elections! Please understand this.
In the 2006 elections, we had the Democratic leadership plainly saying that Bush would not be impeached if the Democrats took power. Yet, we have lots of people who seem to be upset because they voted Democrat thinking this would lead to impeachment. It is very important to listen when you hear something like this.
If you voted Democrat in 2006 thinking it would lead to impeachment, you wasted your vote. If you vote Democrat in 2008 thinking it will lead to us getting out of Iraq, you will be similarly wasting your vote! You can not vote Democrat if you want the US out of Iraq. Because by voting Democrat you are voting for a party that authorized this war, that has supported full funding of this war at every turn, and who now will not even make a hollow campaign promise to get out.
Do not vote Democrat in 2008!
But come to Denver in August 2008 to let the Democrats hear what you think!
There were candidates that supported impeachment in 2006 on many ballots. There will be candidates that oppose this war and support immediate withdrawal on many ballots.
The key is that they won't be Republicans or Democrats. If you are stuck in the mindset that these are the only two choices, then it will seem there are no options.
But, as soon as you are willing to vote for candidates who aren't Republican or Democrat, you'll find there are some very good options out there.
Helen, are you still the only real journalist allowed in The White House? You should have more honors on your office wall than any of the rest of them going back 30 years....Wolf Blitzer is like a cartoon PEZ-candy dispenser that you could carry in your handbag....KEEP ON!
vote for me
cindyforcongress.org
cindy@cindyforcongress.org
Don't know why Helen is surprised that Dubya is a "Clinton fan."? They're all part of the same political cabal (think Yale) and, afterall, Bill Clinton is his "adopted" stepbrother!
Cindy Sheehan, you say "vote for me" (October 5th, 2007 3:36 pm).
I say, yes, absolutely, progressives need to support you, a true progressive, against the corporate-Democrat Speaker of the House. Your's would be a stunning victory. I want your victory. We progressives need your voice in Congress.
But most of us don't live in the Bay Area, so I urge you to announce your national strategy when you formulate it. Write a clear set of articles here at CommonDreams so we can know how to help bring about your stunning victory over the impeachment-avoiding, corporate Democrat Pelosi.
Helen, I hope you run for Congress. Let's vote for you. And encourage other progressive journalists to run, like Norman Solomon, Bill Moyers, Keith Olbermann, and Jeff Cohen.
I will vote for Dennis Kucinich in the primary. But if he doesn't win, I won't vote for the other democratic candidate, PERIOD! No longer will I vote for the lesser of two evils -- which just means maintaing the status quo -- NO MORE!!! PERIOD!!
Who are these third-party candidates some of the people on this forum keep promoting? Abandon the Democratic Party? OK. But, who is running for President as an alternative?
I'm only asking. I'm not one of these "he has no chance" fatalists. I voted for Nader the last two times.
But since we have no independent to vote for in 2008 (at least, so far), how about pressuring the Democrats? How about contacting your Senators and Congresspeople when they do something you like, or don't like. How about calling in to radio shows and expressing your opinions? Writing letters to editors? Contacting TV news shows and news magazines to criticize their spin? Contacting the FCC about the lack of left-leaning news and opinion in your TV and radio market?
Sounds lame, yeah. But that's what the right wingers do. In mass, like lemmings, yes. But, it has some impact.
I'm saying: instead of just moaning that all Democrats are corporate war-mongers who are unworthy of our votes, why not DO SOMETHING?
How about contacting CNN and complaining about Glenn "let them eat cake" Beck? They are now running his stupid commentary every hour: no taxes, no social safety net, no health care for children. Use the money to build walls along our north and south borders, he says.
Why not let CNN know how abhorrent he is? If they are deluged with complaints, maybe they'll can him. Maybe they'll hire Amy Goodman. Hey, their competitor MSNBC has Keith Olbermann! Where's CNN's Olbermann? It can't hurt to try.
Everybody, including Helen Thomas, better realize that as long as we allow private corporations to run our elections AND COUNT THE VOTES with their own software that has proprietary secret codes, then we will not have a free and fair election in this country.
Watch "Hacking Democracy" on YouTube and this special on touch screen voting with Dan Rather:
http://www.hd.net/drr227.html
Just because the Congress and State Legislatures buy into the corporate Diebold scam that a "paper trail" will make all things fine, does NOT make it so.
We had all better vote with paper and ink in the primaries and the general election AND demand to be at each precinct with video cameras for the counting. I don't care if it takes WEEKS for a result.
If we don't have faith that our votes counted, how can we live day to day not really knowing who won?
Think about it.
The very idea that there are two parties in this country is preposterous. It's just a Punch and Judy show to amuse the rubes. The real, permanent administration has no intention of leaving Iraq. Ever.
Progressives need to accept that - as of right now - only Democrats and Republicans have any chance of getting elected at the national level. It follows that if the goal is to eliminate the Clintons and the other DLC types from the Democratic Party, then the only real choice we have is to vote Republican in 2008. We're not going to get rid of entrenched Democratic incumbents (as we saw in the Connecticut Senate race) and we're not going to elect Kucinich as the Democratic nominee. The only thing we can do is use the GOP to rid ourselves of phony Democrats, and then wait till 2010 and replace Republicans with progressive Democrats. You might not like this strategy, but from the standpoint of objective logic, it's really the only answer. The question is whether or not progressives will start allowing LOGIC to intrude into their heads.
FreeQuark,
You don't get rid of DLC Democrats by voting Republican. That's how DLC Democrats were created in the first place. It was a strategy to make Democrats more like Republicans, in order to sway moderate voters.
To get rid of DLC Democrats we need to vote for traditional Democrats, Progressives, leftists, Greens -- whatever you want to call them. Only then will the DLC dolts move back to the Democratic Party's left.
I agree with Nancy's statement that "I will vote for Dennis Kucinich in the primary. But if he doesn't win, I won't vote for the other democratic candidate, PERIOD! No longer will I vote for the lesser of two evils — which just means maintaing the status quo — NO MORE!!! PERIOD!!", with the exception that I MIGHT support Richardson. The truth is, I haven't explored his candidacy well enough to decide. I'm all for Kucinich.
I challenge you: Watch this video of Dennis Kucinich being interviewed on PBS, and tell me how you can possibly vote for any of the "leading" Democratic candidates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1AhaH1ozbg
By the way, I used to think we were screwed unless we reform our elections. Still do. Now, having witnessed the effects of the 2006 election, I realize that we're screwed even when the Dims get elected.
I'm a 62 year old who registered Democrat at first legal opportunity, 41 years ago. This year, I tossed the Dims aside like a worn out dip stick.
Proud Indy
If FreeQuark's thinking is correct, then I'll vote for Ron Paul!!! He's the only true conservative GOPer running!!
What more could we possibly ask for?! Immediate end to the occupation in Iraq, South Korea, the Philippines, Haiti, Columbia etc. etc., end the Federal Reserve Bank's stranglehold on the economy and nationalize our own currency (as Kennedy declared with his Presidential Directive a few weeks before he was assassinated), eliminate the IRS (Paul's first thing he'd do after being elected), restore the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, no more worries about torture, wiretaps, end of habeus corpus, detention camps, he'd probably kick Blackwater out of the U.S. permanently (and all other mercenary groups). So far, so good!
Okay. So, he's not pro-abortion. Who is??! He'd leave that to states rights. So, women would have to hop a train for NYC. And we'd have no prayer of having national health insurance. But we have no better now!! Just watch SICKO!
At least he's a freakin' doctor! Heck, he'd probably go for having the nuns run all the hospitals in the country. If they did, we could ALL afford health care!! God knows they'd run a tight (and clean!) ship!
So, let's go with FreeQuark and register as Repubs and join the Ron Paul rEVOLution and show those rotten Democrats we mean business!!!
Lest we forget it was at a (Democratic!) John Kerry speech that police tasered Andrew Meyer for questioning Kerry about his ties to Skull and Bones.
What's next? Public execution?
The war is a symptom of a much bigger disease and a tremendous subterfuge to detract from the systematic deconstruction of our constitution and democratic ideals.
Wake up! The war is in our homes, on our streets, in the (mock) courtrooms and classrooms, on tv, in ads, in movies, in those insipid magazines and sporting events not just in the halls of congress and the oval office...The commanders rule from K Street!
We've not just big oil and the wars in the middle east to blame...we're facing ALL the big money as it rapidly conglomerates - congealing, morphing into one giant voracious dragon while the villagers either stand and fight or succumb to its tyranny entirely.
Our situation is beyond impeachable. We're past polite methods of exercising democracy. Martial law could be declared at any time at which point there is no point.
**KHT
Someone said that Hillary Clinton is a Republican. I agree. And now the corporate right-wing media says Hillary is "the darling of the left?" No one asked me what I thought of her. She's previously mentioned that she's proud of her and her family's conservative background.
Bill Sammon is another lying Republican Bush supporter; he said "liberals hate Bush because he's religious." haha.......maybe Bush is disliked because he's evil, dishonest, a liar, has no conscience, has people killed for no reason, etc., etc.
I wouldn't buy Mr. Sammon's book about "The Evangelical President" if it were the last book on earth. And I like to read.
Where do the voters go who are sick of the Iraqi debacle?
Why to Canada, of course; where such unmitigated fascist criminal behavior would never be tolerated.
Those of you who don't like the Dem front runners should check out Richardson. I have, and there is a lot to like. His plan is to get completely out of Iraq and stay out.
For the love of God, please don't vote for another Republican. It will be Romney. Have you heard him speak? He sounds like Hitler. Scares me to death.
I'm with Nancy H and Malcom. After watching Dennis on PBS the other night I am more convinced than ever. He is the JFK of our time, except that he is not a freakin billionaire.No other DEMONcrat will get my support! Here's the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1AhaH1ozbg
one party government in the USA. The one party of the rich has two branches--democrat and republican.
Don't forget that this is the MSM that is telling us who is leading and who is the "Front Runner." If you can't trust there news stories then why trust there polls? Vote something other that Republican or Democrat. And if you are one of those die hards that say we are wasteing our vote then vote for the 3rd or 4th runner up. The only way to show that the "POLLS" are wrong is to make it so.
Stop and think . . . What if your vote took a 4th place candidate in one of these so called polls, and moved him/her up to 2nd place . . . WHOA . . . would that shake things up. The so called "POLLS" are only right as long as you accept what they say as being true.
I mean no one has polled me lately . . . . How about you???
Looks like all of the Democrats answered poorly. I would have looked for someone, even a potted plant, who said something just this simple:
Priority #1: Safety of the troops.
Priority #2: The US needs regional stability.
Bottom-line: Both *should* be achievable well before 2013 (I'd ballpark a guess at 12-24 months if we had competent people in charge both in D.C. and commanding the field).
"...I decide, you know, I say, `This is what we're going to do.' And it's `Yes, sir, Mr. President.'
RE: Going to Canada - "On Wednesday, October 3, Medea Benjamin, founder of the anti-war women's group CODEPINK, and retired Army colonel Ann Wright were denied entry into Canada at the Buffalo-Niagara Falls Bridge. They were told that they could not cross the border into Canada because their names appeared on an FBI database that Canadian border agents rely on to screen visitors." Better check your status with the FBI before you plan your trip.
RE: Deserting the DINOs - Make the message LOUD and CLEAR! Before the primaries, register Dem. That includes all of us progressive Indies. Then vote for the candidate that you think best represents YOU (Mine is Kucinich). THEN, when your candidate doesn't get nominated, which is likely, change your registration to whatever you want (Indie, Green, Purple, whatever..). But don't forget to write, e-mail, AND phone the DNC as to why you no longer are a registered Dimm and wil NOT vote for them in the election. This plan means you get to make a lot on noise with your voteSSSS that will send a CLEAR message to the Dimwits. This strategy also applies to ALL Congressional races. If Pelosi has opposition in the primary, vote for the other Dimm. Then, follow the steps above and vote for Cindy.
RE: Voting Repug - NEVER vote for a PARTY!! Ever! NEVER throw your vote away to send a message that will NOT be heard. Vote for the individual and what they stand for. If there are no candidates that you can vote FOR, write in someone, anyone, that you could actually support.
RE: Voting machines - If you question the honesty of how your votes will be counted, register for Absentee Ballots for ALL elections! It's a little like forcing them to let you vote by mail. Paper ballot and all.
PS Thanks Helen. You really know how to start a conversation!
As I recall, in one of the Presidential debates prior to the 2000 election Schrub was asked who his greatest mentor was. He answered, "Jesus Christ".
I can't recall the exact place this passage is in the Bible (BAD Christian!!), but somewhere Jesus says, "Whatever you so do to the least of mine Brethren, ye do it to me."
Does anyone think George W. Bush closes his eyes at night and thinks about all the death, suffering and destruction he has brought upon "the least of HIS brethren"?
Annabelle: The main reason the MSM supports Hillary is that they are all corporately owned and must go along for the good of the bosses and stockholdres. Not an original thought in the whole damn bunch.(MSM)
Kucinich,is the people's choice and I am trying to send him a little money each month. Please sned whatever you can afford, fully realizing that Dennis is not corporately owned.
*You don't get rid of DLC Democrats by voting Republican. That's how DLC Democrats were created in the first place. It was a strategy to make Democrats more like Republicans, in order to sway moderate voters.*
That may be true, but the Democratic Party is now dominated by these people, and there is no way within the party structure to take it back. Since third parties and independents aren't viable at the national level, the only choice we have is to replace the phony Democrats with Republicans, and then turn around and use our superior numbers to take back control of the DNC.
We can sit here for decades singing the praises of DK and the Green Party, and it's not going to win any elections. We have to develop a strategy that actually has some chance of working within the current two-party system. Given that we have no power in the Democratic Party, what else can we do except try and use the GOP to our advantage? Conservatives have been using the Democratic Party to their advantage ever since Reagan, it's high time progressives gave these people a taste of their own medicine.
Dear Helen,
You've been around, and know how this works, so please write about the "coup" that has occurred here in the U.S.
Also, you might mention how both parties are tied to the same strings that moved Bush/Cheney.
Thanks,
A Concerned Citizen