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Why Are There No War Crimes Trials?
I've watched two episodes of Ken Burns' "The War." I don't think I'll watch any more. It was young men of my generation who fought those battles. The kids killed on Guadalcanal or storming Monte Cassino were only a couple years older than I was. Nor will I read the late David Halberstam's book The Coldest Winter about Korea. My friends died in that winter cold. War is inherently ugly, destructive, horrible. The lives of young men are cut short. Parents, spouses, friends, children are marked for life by the losses they suffered. It is astonishing that despite the four wars of the last half century, we Americans do not remember the horror. Instead we blunder into new wars, blithely confident that it will be easy, short and almost bloodless. We are always mistaken. Perhaps we don't want to remember.
The TV critic of the Wall Street Journal (a newspaper that never saw a war that it didn't like including a possible war with Iran) says that Burns is wrong. Americans know that "The War" was horrible, she said. They've seen all about it on the History Channel. Yeah, everyone watches the History Channel, don't they? If Americans remember how horrible the "good war" was, why do they continue to continue to support nutcase conflicts into which our leaders rush?
The only ones who remember how bad the "good war" was are those who fought in it or those who lived through it. It became real for me, a clueless 15-year-old, one night when I was praying in our local church. In semi-darkness, a young woman, maybe a half decade older than I, was kneeling in front of the gold star shrine, sobbing softly. Then she cried out in anguish, "Why didn't you take me instead of him!"
Dismayed, I got out of the church as quickly as I could, leaving behind a prayer to God, "You take care of her, I can't!" Since then I've often wondered what happened to that young woman -- and to the other young women who have lost the men they loved. Were those deaths necessary?
There is no question that the war that Burns so brilliantly brings back was necessary. However, even in necessary wars, stupid and evil things happen. Not all the killing is necessary, but it is in the nature of war that evil is often done in the name of good and the innocent suffer without reason. Inept and publicity-hungry commanders like Mark Clark and Douglas MacArthur make terrible mistakes. Civilians are killed randomly and recklessly as in the RAF night raids on German cities. Individual human life is cheap. Angry soldiers kill prisoners. Pilots kill parachutists. Americans drop atomic bombs. Killing other human beings becomes routine.
Obviously there is a subtext to the TV series: If that war was the most terrible ever and yet was necessary, what about the subsequent wars and the present war? It is, I suspect, the reason that the Journal's critic is so measured in her approval.
Why was it necessary to invade Iraq? Because they attacked us? But they did not. Most of the 9/11 killers were in fact Saudis. Because they had weapons that might kill us? It turns out that they did not. Why is it necessary to continue this pointless, never-ending war? For the sake of democracy in Iraq? For victory? Because the president says it's the "right thing" to do? So that a future president will be blamed for "weakness?"
And I think of that young woman in St. Angela Church in 1943 and of similar young women today and wonder why we don't have war crimes trials for unnecessary wars.
Andrew Greeley is a priest in good standing of the Archdiocese of Chicago for 52 years, a columnist for 40 years, a sociologist for 45 years, a novelist for 28 years, distinguished lecturer at the University of Arizona for 28, research associate at National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago for 46 years.
© 2007 The Chicago Sun Times
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Show Alli was just reading an article posted on globalresearch.com.written about ex-prime minister,dr.mahathir of malaysia and he is proposing enforcing the war crime tribunal.everything dr.mahathir said in his very public speech was"A HUMAN AFTER MY OWN HEART !"i have taken note,lately that it is to the point where only a doctrine such as those found in buddism..CAN SAVE THIS WORLD !and i believe jesus would agree...THE AMERICAN MILITARY HAS A LONG HISTORY OF ANNIHILATION OF BUDDISTS...BECAUSE IT IS A THREAT TO THEIR NEW WORLD ORDER !it was one of the very first initial acts of the u.s.military,when they first entered viet nam !!they wiped out villages of the buddist people.IT IS THE NEFARIOUS WHO DESERVE TO LEAVE THIS PLANET !!GOD BLESS DR, MAHATHIR !!GOD BLESS THE MONKS OF BURMA !!!!!!!!!!!!!
The headline poses a very good question, but the article didn't really address that question. Why indeed? The logistics of bringing our misleaders before a court are against us, but couldn't they be tried in absentia? Why hasn't the world put these criminals on trial? What are they waiting for?
The question is so much more grave and terrifying than that seemingly posed in the title: what happened to "that young woman in St. Angela Church in 1943" and all who like her have shared her agony and anger at the victimization of our young by the wars of their elders. Indeed where are their collective voices when, once again, they are so desperately needed?
It'll never happen because we would nuke anybody, so-called friend or foe alike, who dared bring charges in a court of law.
We are all complicit by allowing our leaders to order our citizenry to commit war crimes. Not to say that by our silence we tacitly agree to them making us culpable as well.
Of course we've had a lot of help from our Congresss and stacked Courts who suddenly thought the Constitution was really only fit to be used for toilet paper.
We are a liitle too comfortable to take the risky actions necessary to set our government on a better course, if it's not already to late.
We need to learn from the monks of Burma about risk taking and the need for everyone to stick together against these modern day self-appointed tyrants.
dnphsmith
There has been one voice, that of Cindy Sheehan.
The right would love to silence her with the pull of a trigger. But they've settled for character assasination and smear, arrest and ridicule.
It seems our 'leaders' have been taking us to war since the dawn of time. There is much written about the lead-up to WWII, some information not taught in History 101 is that the leadership of the United States followed a set-piece plan to force war with Japan. Until Pearl Harbor, a majority of US citizens were supportive of Hitler, it was unlikely we would have confronted Europe until one of the Axis attacked us, then in a wave of patriotism we took care of the 'problem' we had much to do with creating.
I once imagined a country that held tests for grade school children to locate those who had a desire toward entering politics. Those with the aptitude were then taken outside and shot.
Of course, in a kinder and gentler world we would select the brightest and the best through said testing and then randomly 'draft' those qualified to fill the spots that are now filled by the most physically attractive who tell the best lies.
I'll attempt to answer the question posed in the title.
At the Nuremberg and Tokyo trials, politics prevailed over the universality principle in the sense that the obvious war crimes committed by both Germany and the US/UK alliance were omitted if both sides did them. Thus the bombing of cities, which is directly targeting non-combatants, was not a crime applied to Germany, because the Allies did it too. The same happened at the Tokyo trials. (Justice Pal of India wrote a long dissent about this at the Tokyo trial.)
THEN, politics prevailed over the universality principle. But at Nuremberg, Justice Jackson still did the best he could under the political conditions he inherited. (He could not possibly have indicted Lemay and Truman for the crimes against Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, for example.)
But . . . we still have the principles and precedents of Nuremberg and Tokyo. What was a national right—starting a war—became an international crime, called a "crime against peace." THAT precedent is now law. But it is not enforced.
NOW, politics STILL prevails over the universality principle. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, many members of Congress, quite obviously committed a crime against peace in attacking and occupying Iraq. They are quite obviously committing other crimes by torturing and kidnapping people. And also by threating Iran.
So politics prevails over the universality principle when it comes to crimes against peace, crimes against humanity, war crimes, genocide, and (the new, upcoming crime) ecocide.
THAT'S WHY.
How to change it?
Implement the progressive platform (to name a few): apologize for crimes; prosecute crimes; pay reparations for crimes; democratize the UN by eliminating the veto on the UNSC; adopt the ICC; make crimes against peace prosecutable in 2009 by the ICC; make inciting war crimes a crime; and create a bill or a constitutional amendment to make absolute the idea that treaties are "binding federal law" (as Justice Kennedy asserted of Geneva in Hamden v. Rumsfeld).
The Green Party, Nader's platform, and the platform of Kucinich all agree in letter or in spirit with these obvious solutions. These solutions are part of the living culture of many nations, Germany, for example.
So our movement to implement and enforce international law must grow. We must elect progressives to Congress. We must replace corporate Dems and Republicans with true progressives (like Sheehan and Franken). And if a corporate, international-law-denier Democrat (such as Clinton, Obama or Edwards) wins the presidency, we must pressure that person to abide by the global rule of law.
"It is astonishing that despite the four wars of the last half century" Four wars?????
No sir there have been many more than four wars! Perhaps Mr. Greeley meant "major" wars--but then again, if one is "collateral damage" in a "minor" war it's a problem.
OYE
Because Europe stays silent and caves in just like the "Democrats" ! Look, the reason Europe and others are appeasing America is due to the economic LIBERTARIAN ideology that somewhat benefits them, well the wealthy elite in each of those countries against the working class anyway. You see, the economic libertarians especially Wall Street have everything to benefit from this pro-NAZI war in Iraq. When I tried to join the Libertarian Party, I was kicked out for speaking up for civil liberties and against this economic DOGMA. Now let's map this to the countries. Quietly, our American gubbmint has been rewarding Europe and most nations with "free" trade deals that no only kills the working class of those countries but further UNDERMINES the working class here in America. Europe may hate it that America's at war with Iraq but in reality they're happy to watch us LOSE LOSE LOSE and watch the euro-dollar grow while watching the American dollar COLLAPSE.
It's just like the strange relationship between social conservatives and economic libertarians.
If those countries were really fed up with America for being a war-mongering nation, all they had to do was CANCEL all those "free" trade deals and not be a bunch of cave-in pansies like the Democrats !
All wars are begun for money, theft of resources and the illusion of power none of which are worth a single life. Those who call for and begin wars are the vilest of criminals and should be treated as such.
Dear Andrew Greeley:
The war was inevitable, but not neccessary. War is never neccessary. Hitler was the product of corporate bribery, much like Sadaam Hussein and our own useless, violent and dangerous government. I'm sure you will agree.
Ken Burns should have made a documentary on the bombing of civilians in Iraq, Yugoslavia, Lebanon, Germany, England, etc. He could have called it "Luftwaffe."
Americans have never been bombed from the air. That is why they seem to be so gung ho on allowing their Air Force to make blitzkrieg on harmless civilian populations.
Ken Burns is a faux intellectual.
I'm glad you decided to turn off his show and are advertising the fact.
Incidentally, Marikken, above poster, brought up the interesting point. It looks like Concientious Objectors will begin to start needing a legal defense fund. And it looks like their will have to a fund set up, a financial fund to back Conscientious Objectors who simply cannot contenance participating any more in the killing. If every democrat against the war gave 100 dollars, it would create a fund of several billion dollars to aid Conscientious Objectors who are entrapped in this war, which forces them to kill without cause.
Sincerely,
e.
I'm hoping that the next person in-charge of Congress, the Senate, and the White House will bring investigations and charges, with no pardons, against the people who got America in this unjustifiable mess. Just because they're out of office doesn't mean they can't lose pensions, access to politicians, and (the biggy) they can't come back into office.
John Freeman,
I hope you do not really believe that a "test" could be developed for what you are suggesting. It's impossible. The standardized tests that are in use today have so many "problems" that one cannot make any inferences from the "data" that is produced. See Noel Wilson's "Standardized Testing and the Problem of Error" at the Education Policy Analysis Archives (google EPAA and do a search).
The dirty truth of the matter is that at least half of the American people don't give-a-whit about the war crimes committed by our government. War crimes only matter when it's another country committing the crimes. All the talk about the honor of our country, and liberty, and justice, and human rights, only applies to Americans, and only then when it's politically expedient. If anyone thinks they can change public opinion by pointing out the war crimes committed by our government they're delusional.
War crime trials??? We don't even have the balls to impeach these 2 M-Fers; can't even stop their pensions and lifetime benefits!! Even worse, we have taught every future President that all he/she has to do is start a phony war; label him/herself a "wartime leader", and get away with literally anything, with impunity. The US and the world will pay a fearsome price someday for not holding the worst leaders ever accountable for their crimes.
DRAGONSLAYER - Do you honestly think there are even going to be any "future Presidents". I doubt it.
Peace,
Ken Hausle
"next person in-charge of Congress, the Senate, and the White House will bring investigations and charges, with no pardons, against the people who got America in this unjustifiable mess."
Who do you think this might be? The betting odds would be that that the Democrats would maintain control of the House and the Senate, which means Mr. Reid and Ms. Pelosi would be in charge of the next session as well. They've already shown that they have no interest in pursuing even an impeachment investigation. Thus there would be no indication that any investigations or prosecutions would come from this source.
And of course if the Republicans take control of either body they certainly wouldn't pursue any investigations or prosecutions.
The Clinton's already have a track record with regard to taking the White House. The Clinton administration pointedly did not investigate or prosecute crimes committed in the Reagan\Bush years. There were serious constitutional violations in that regime, including the illegal diversion of funds for purposes explicitly barred by congressional law. The Clinton attitude was to let bygones be bygones and not to investigate or prosecute any of this.
And since Hillary is saying nothing about impeachment or prosecutions today, there is no sign that a Hillary administration would prosecute anyone from the Bush era. And there are no statements from the Obama or Edwards camps that indicate any willingness to follow through on this. And of course any Republican who might get the nomination won't prosecute this.
So ... if you really want to see investigations and prosecutions, you'd better be supporting and voting for candidates and parties beyond the Democrats and Republicans. Personally, I'd recommend the Green Party. If the Green Party were to win enough seats to take the Speakership, then I think you'd see very aggressive investigations and criminal referrals. And a Green Party administration would almost certainly nominate an Attorney General who would be aggressive in pursuing this.
And yes, there will be future presidents. Any look at Bush's demeanor screams that he's sick of the job and wants out. The elections might be rigged. But there will be elections and a new president.
war crime trials will come to pass when the zionists who run america want them to happen. like everything else including the war with iraq and the (done deal) war with iran.
fought and paid for with the blood of poor black boys and poor latino boys.
how ironic is that?
not a penny less and not a day sooner.
Answer: because there never was an actual war. There was a shocking and appalling illegal invasion based on wholly fabricated bullshit meant to cover the now well known resource control agenda, followed by an even more shocking and appalling illegal occupation. Congress abdicated it's responsibility to officially declare War; hence, no war crimes.
"I told somebody behind stage, this has been a joyous experience being the president," Bush said.
One of the commentors states that before Pearl Harbor " a majority of Americans were supportive of Hitler." I wonder if he has a shred of evidence that this was the case.
I don't know COMarc. Should we really even call the office of Presidency of the United States a "job"?
I mean i know it is something that someone does, but if it is a "job", it is certainly a job unlike any other, and i think there ought to be a different term that speaks to just how critical it is to have a person of utmost integrity in this office. That is assuming the office is going to remain.
Frankly, i just don't see it staying how it has been. Nope. There has been too much bloodletting. Too much suffering of innocence and it is not just a reflection of the men and women in DC today, it is a reflection of the country called "america" that i know i no longer recognize.
I declare independence from america.
Peace,
Ken Hausle
Marikken--There's a World Tribunal on Iraq that's been touring the planet holding hearings for the type of trial in abstentia you asked about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tribunal_on_Iraq There have even been items here at CD about it, http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0214-07.htm
There was also a similar event sponsored by UK philosopher Bertrand Russell regarding the Vietnam War, with a book published about it, "War Crimes in Vietnam."
There's a very good, recent interview with Chomsky that provides great illumination of the present situation in both a specific and general sense, http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=45&ItemID=13946 that I would assign to students if I were still teaching. In particular, he explains why the public is ignored, even when the public is in close to unanimous agreement. Knowing why this is so is fundamental to changing the situation. It's not enough to say the country and its leadership are Facsists; one MUST know WHY.
ken:
"the country called "america" that i know i no longer recognize."
product rebrand here, now referred to as the fascist states of israel.
does that work for you.
how will it play in peoria?
milofmusic - oh what we need is more music and less war (just to be clear, i'm laughing as i type this becuase i know it is nothing more than a pipe dream.....)
Peace,
Ken Hausle
There is another voice out there. Here's the link. Way to say it Mr.Greeley!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1AhaH1ozbg
Ken Hausle has hit a common nerve felt by many Americans.
There is a solution to our shared dilemma. Not an easy solution, by any stretch, but a solution nonetheless that is within our grasp. In fact, if you really think about it, it could be the most powerful means we have at our disposal in order to effect positive change in today's America.
I'm talking about the people calling a Second Constitutional Convention for the purpose of bringing desperately needed People's Amendments to the Constitution.
It is true that Article V of the Constitution stipulates that the Legislature be the ones who recommend such an action, however under the preamble to the Declaration of Independence, our original and founding document, we have the right to alter government as necessary to ensure our continued rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. In addition, the signing statement at the end of the Constitution by George Washington and William Jackson indicates that it is the people who choose the delegates for the Convention.
There are many who say that it does not matter what the Declaration says, that we no longer have that authority, that somehow we gave up that authority upon creation of the Constitution. I say to re-read the Declaration. And then again if necessary.
I have made available on the We The People Network website, in the online library section, many documents that verify what I am saying. These documents include Supreme Court decisions, as well as papers written by respected university law professors. The address to those documents is http://www.wtpnet.org/library.html
There are others who say that we should not embrace these documents, because, after all, they were written by 55 rich white men intent on staying rich. While this is true, I say IT DOES NOT MATTER! What matters is that it exists. The fact that the words are written, give them their power to preserve our popular sovereignty. But only if we pick it up and use it.
I say that the very fact that the Declaration of Independence sits under glass at the National Archives, and that it was used by the people to declare their rights against King George, is all the precedence necessary to implement it's provisions in the name of the people of this country against the current King George.
A legitimate emergency exists in this country. We have the most powerful tool at our disposal to deal with it. The question is:
Do we have the courage to pick it up and use it, before it is too late?
Peace and Solidarity
Paul Fisher
We The People Network
http://www.wtpnet.org
mail@wtpnet.org
Support the Second Constitutional Convention!
the reason there is no war crimes is becouse people are brainwashed, and leaders like Greeley don't speak up, maybe after 5 Years, when they are prodded by the youth and underground press,,,wake up,,,and smell our constitutional rights burning,,,,along with the rope around our leaders knecks,of the government by bribary, bought and paid for, revolving door suck-ups,,,who can't see the factories closing thru the trees, even though there are supposedly fiscally responsible republicans, none will step up and say we are raping the future, bleeding the US Treasury not only dry, but bankrupt, as the formerly richest country in the world, we should be running our country on a National Endowment, not Debt, VOTE OUT The DEBT
waiguoren -
My father who was an FBI agent told me the same thing about almost going to war in cahoots with Germany.
For some eye-opening background, google "German American Bund". You will see how many industrialists and celebrities spoke of Hitler in glowing terms - Henry ford and Charles Lindbergh to name two.
What are the medals for (ACPV)
What are the medals for, Dad
Why did he get them all
Was it because he fired faster
Were they lined against a wall
Chorus
did he enjoy the war
did he hear them cry or roar
did they want to go to war
Did he stand and watch them fall
Dad, did he really have to kill
Is that what he was paid to do
Was it so important
Did we win, or did we lose
He's a hero son
Did it for his country, see
That's the way the world was -
Kept us all at home free
Chorus
Did he enjoy the war
did he hear them cry, or roar
did they want to go to war
did he stand and watch them fall
What are the medals for
Will I have to learn to kill, Dad
Or do we learn from history
I don't need any medals
Will they listen to boys like me
What are the medals for
What are the medals for
What are the medals for
(c) roger antony carter 2006
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Ken Hausle...
Just tried your link, Ken - seems not to be working?
Regards
Roger
Roger - it works for me, but i suppose that doesn't necessarily mean that much. The link is as follows:
http://www.peoplesproclamation.com/
If it still doesn't work, send me an e-mail at buffalo_ken@kjh-es.com and I can forward a "pdf" version of the website (it is only 1-page long).
Peace,
Ken Hausle
Q. If the US and other forces were to ask for advice from Hierarchy, what advice and solutions to the terrible mess of Afghanistan and Iraq would they receive?
A. To admit the wrong committed by the invasions and to pour the necessary monies and all other resources to restore these countries to peace and calm. To hold an international UN-led inquiry into the best way to begin and complete this restoration and to avow no further incursions of a like kind anywhere in the world.
Excerpted from: Questions and answers
http://share-international.org/magazine/SI_current.htm#qa
The on-going Iraqi Holocaust is almost totally ignored by the mainstream media, the Congressional Democrats, and the leading candidates, not to mention the Republicans who are perfoming this abomination against the Iraqi people.
1,200,000 Iraqis have been killed as a result of the American invasion and occupation of Iraq, according to the best epidemiological survey we have, and the Democrats keep funding the war so we can "finish the job."
The "job" we're really doing in Iraq is genocide, and it won't be finished until the last Iraqi is dead. Everyone who supports this abomination or collaborates deserves to be prosecuted under the same "natural law" that the United States applied at Nuremberg, where the punishment for crimes against humanity was hanging.
Wanna talk about war crimes?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUkxvfL_eE
So long as we're at video sharing, here's a great one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o&mode=related&search=
And as I was reading various blogs on Salon I found an interesting missive there trying to get us to all chill out on a Friday evening. Kick back, pump up the volume and take a three minute break. This is what the rest of America is doing tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o&mode=related&search=
Oops. Sorry. HERE'S what the rest of America is doing tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
Doesn't anyone in this forum even understand that Europe has a lot to do with this? If not, please reread my earlier post. Yes, Europeans may generally be against this war but if they really don't like it that they're having to shoulder the burden, then why the fuck are they just letting a NAZI gang in America FUCK the planet to DEATH ? I know France and Germany too wanted to get their contracts into Iraq and do business with the US-installed Saddham Hussein but that the US beat them to it. Doesn't anyone understand that if Europe had done the same thing back in the 1930s that everyone in that continent and Russia would be wearing lederhosen and speaking German ?
I like Greeley very much. He has never been afraid to bring unpopular subjects to the forefront. I sometimes think he waits too long to do so.
We all know there are a great many things "wrong" in our present government. I see comments all the time on here and in many other venues.
The real "problem" in my opinion is what I can only categorize as "public apathy" which seems to be caused by a general attitude of helplessness in the face of overpowering financial resources in the hands of those who would use the system to their own advantage.
Some of us try to do "something" to raise public awareness in the online community. We spend our own time, resources and money. Ken has started his own web site. I have done so also.
http://Citizens4.US
However, we can never seem to get any real core group of "activist" types that are willing to go beyond sitting at their keyboards and typing. We are not asking for money.
Although at some point it will cost some to get the word out.
We are only asking for a commitment in timeto start with. Both Ken and I are obviously footing the bills for the beginning technical expenses.
Perhaps that is the real problem. It has been said that it is in fact easier to get people to donate money than to give of their talents and time.
So, is that the real problem? Will they gladly give money, just to get us to "go away" rather than have us ask them to give of something more important?
Does anyone have the answer? Are their any people left out there that care? Care deeply enough to realise that they MUST do something to effect a change?
I hope there are. But, I am fast becoming resigned to the fact that there may not be.
Greenspan said the war was for the oil, why can't USA just just buy it like everyone else??
Hey wiz the web site while cool is not going to stop the war. Maybe if everyday you used your word processor and mail merge and internet e-mail to send your message to every elected official in your neck of the woods from the dog catcher on up, it might have an impact. If you got several of your friends to do the same you would have in Arlo's vernacular a movement. That would definitely provoke change. Go get'em tiger.
The basic article was a rather simplistic statement about the futility of war and the absence of any apparent action to hold someone responsible for the pain and suffering that the innocent must endure.
In every war it is the victors who write the history and create the "facts" for future generations. In the same manner the winners hold their trials and then convict and execute the losers. The only difference in Iraq is that we couldn't wait until the end of the war and we have used our pathetic little Iraqi Quislings to do the deed.
Someone mentioned Jefferson and I am reminded of his admonition during a time like today when he said; "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just" Billy B
"There is no question that the war that Burns so brilliantly brings back was necessary. However, even in necessary wars, stupid and evil things happen"
From a Priest??? My GOD!!! That War was caused by the previous one(s) and those by...
Don't you "get it" yet...the words of YOUR Prophet, Jesus...like all the other Mayatreas. All WAR is BAD!!!! Turn the other cheek! Turn over your lunatic mind, Father Idiot !
White Rose
"If you got several of your friends to do the same you would have in Arlo's vernacular a movement"
That is precisely what I am trying to do. Get the like minded people in one place and try to spur such an action.
Yet all I get is apathy. No one wants to "get involved"
Did you listen to the audio clip? I have that all outlined in a written form also.
Sad, really sad.
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ATTENTION:
Mr. President and Members of Congress.
Be you Democrats, Republicans, Independents or, any other flavor of politician.
We the People ... Sent you a message at the election last November.
You ... Did not listen.
We the People ... Voted in the polls over the previous months.
You ... Have not listened.
We the People ... Have shown repeatedly that your approval rating stinks.
You ... Are still not listening.
We the People ... Must regretfully conclude that you have no intention of listening.
You ... Seem not to care what we desire.
THEREFORE:
We the People ... Who are the activists who volunteer our time to your campaigns.
We the People ... Who contribute freely of our talents to you.
We the People ... Who donate our MONEY to further your chosen profession.
We the People ... Are now forced to turn our time, resources and MONEY in another direction.
BECAUSE:
You ... Choose to disregard us. Choose to make light of our contributions.
You ... Have forgotten that we are the activists that vote in the primaries.
You ... Ignore the fact that we help promote Get Out The Vote campaigns.
You ... Take our MONEY and then do as you please.
BE IT RESOLVED:
We the People ... Will no longer give of our time, resources and MONEY to support you.
We the People ... Will turn you out at the next Primary or General Election.
We the People ... Are sick and tired of your actions or non-actions, as the case may be.
UNLESS:
You ... Show us that you are listening to us. Remember us? We the People?
You ... Do it decisively, without nuance, without dissembling.
You ... Stop putting your petty partisan politics in front of our desires.
YOU THINK ABOUT IT:
We the People ... Produced this ad. It took time. It took resources and talents. It takes MONEY to run it.
You .. Did NOT get any of that. Will you continue to "Not Get It?"
WE THE PEOPLE ... Have spoken. Are speaking again. Will continue to speak.
YOU ... Have a choice. 1: To listen. or 2: To not listen. Pick one.
STOP THE WAR IN IRAQ ... NOW.
WE THE PEOPLE ... Are Watching.
WE THE PEOPLE ... Will be back.
Audio clip - http://Citizens4.US/WTP.swf
It will only lead to higher taxes for us all.
There could yet be war crimes trials, but I doubt they would get as far up as Bush/Chaney.
Bush prolly signed secret "permanent" laws that hold himself or any of his top officials free of liability for any of anything from anywhere on any day in any country, posthumously evan.
I'd imagine Bushy has a few choice secluded places around the World(hmm, Argentina? The Vatican? secluded island?)in case someone somewhere decides the decider needs to be brought up on charges.
There will be war crime trials when one of the appointed dictators or monetary elected authoritarians offends the wealthy elite and/or corporate club.
White Rose
Here is a prime example of the apathy. From my website logs:
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There are no war crime trials because them with the gold makes the rules and we can't get together on a candidate and give more money to his campaign than the corporate candidates give to theirs.
No need for war crime trials. They have already been tried by the American and world public opinion, and are considered war criminals.
What is needed is the power to bring justice to them; the power to execute; the power to hang.
The answer to this is that the world awaits the good American people to finally wake up and do the right thing, first. You usually come through. Fingers crossed AND holding breath.
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Cannuckistani_Joe October 6th, 2007 7:51 am
"The answer to this is that the world awaits the good American people to finally wake up and do the right thing, first. You usually come through. Fingers crossed AND holding breath."
We tried to do the right thing by voting the Democrats into power in 2006. But yet again we have been betrayed. Hopefully 2008 will bring the change that is needed but I don't hold out much hope for it. As long as the Democrats and Republicans are able to convince the majority that a lesser of two evils vote will bring about change there will be none.
Lobo Gris