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'I hate All Iranians,' US Aide Tells British MPs
Britsh MPs visiting the Pentagon to discuss America's stance on Iran and Iraq were shocked to be told by one of President Bush's senior women officials: "I hate all Iranians."
And she also accused Britain of "dismantling" the Anglo-US-led coalition in Iraq by pulling troops out of Basra too soon.
The all-party group of MPs say Debra Cagan, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Coalition Affairs to Defence Secretary Robert Gates, made the comments this month.
The six MPs were taken aback by the hardline approach of the Pentagon and in particular Ms Cagan, one of Mr Bush's foreign policy advisers.
She made it clear that although the US had no plans to attack Iran, it did not rule out doing so if the Iranians ignored warnings not to develop a nuclear bomb.
It was her tone when they met her on September 11 that shocked them most.
The MPs say that at one point she said: "In any case, I hate all Iranians."
Although it was an aside, it was not out of keeping with her general demeanour.
"She seemed more keen on saying she didn't like Iranians than that the US had no plans to attack Iran," said one MP. "She did say there were no plans for an attack but the tone did not fit the words."
Another MP said: "I formed the impression that some in America are looking for an excuse to attack Iran. It was very alarming."
Tory Stuart Graham, who was on the ten-day trip, would not discuss Ms Cagan but said: "It was very sobering to hear from the horse's mouth how the US sees the situation."
Ms Cagan, whose job involves keeping the coalition in Iraq together, also criticised Britain for pulling out troops.
"She said if we leave the south of Iraq, the Iranians will take it over," said one MP.
Another said: "She is very forceful and some of my colleagues were intimidated by her muscular style."
The MPs also saw Henry Worcester, Deputy Director of the Office of Iranian Affairs, who said he favoured talks with Iran.
The Pentagon denied Ms Cagan said she "hated" Iranians.
"She doesn't speak that way," said an official.
But when The Mail on Sunday spoke to four of the six MPs, three confirmed privately that she made the remark and one declined to comment. The other two could not be contacted.
© 2007 The Daily Mail



168 Comments so far
Show AllDebra Cagan is and always has been certifiably insane. The fact that she is representing U.S. foreign policy is mind-boggling. Maybe they should appoint Charles Manson as an Under Secretary of State.
Is that a woman? Maybe it's just a bad picture. I don't want anyone with that mentality on my payroll. She should see if there are any jobs at the Ku Kux Klan.
[The Pentagon denied Ms Cagan said she "hated" Iranians.]
I guess the Pentagon is calling the MP's liars.
[Another MP said: "I formed the impression that some in America are looking for an excuse to attack Iran. It was very alarming."]
Yea the nut cases we have running this place.
she looks like like something out of a horror movie...and I guess you could describe the
current administration as a horror show
Yowza, is that Cruella DeVille or did Anne Coulter just get an S&M makeover in East Berlin?
As for her "muscular tone"...why am I not surprised?...I've never been under the impression that anyone in the administration particularly liked Iranians...
Actually, I think she's John Kerry in drag, and he's moonlighting over at State, trying to sabatoge W.
Just a guess - well, its a reach, lets put it that way.
MS Cagen is certifiable as are most of the idiots that are in charge of this country.
I think she really meant that she hates all Muslims and others who are not drinking the Cheney kool-aid.( that means us, too!)
Bombers drill at Eugene airport
I live 10 miles south of the Eugene airport. Early in 2003, prior to President Bush's invasion of Iraq, there were numerous military aircraft practicing approaches to the airport.
Some of the craft were so low and so noxiously loud that my wife called the airport to complain.The airport operator connected her directly to the air controllers in the tower, where they confirmed that military aircraft crews were practicing instrument approaches. Weeks later, Bush invaded Iraq.
Well, they're at it again. There is a B1 bomber crew - yes, a B1 bomber - that for weeks has been making practice runs on the airport and again the air controller on duty confirmed they are practicing instrument approaches. Coincidently, the Air Force last week "mistakenly" flew a planeload of nuclear bombs across America's skies to the East Coast.
Iranian officials had better beware. For the record, I am a four-year veteran of the Korean conflict era, and I do not appreciate what this country has become. I am so ashamed.
Jim Clarkson
Eugene
Did anyone notice the German Cross that she is wearing?
Yes, My first thoughts were...Rosa Klebb?! Is that you? or is it Frau Farbissina? Either way,watch out for the shoe...
Hallowe'en came early to the pentagon. She(?) is actually Baron Von Richtofen risen from the grave, except the dead Baron was probably more astute an compassionate.
As for her remarks: it is truly sad that anyone in such a high place would make a formal public utterance beginning "I hate _________." This is the way children talk, or illiterates, or sociopaths.
I didn't think we had freak shows like her on this side of the big water.
This is haunting! Another member and leader in Bush World!
This is getting a little too weird for me -- I mean "sick" weird. I mean it! This "thing" whatever she is is right out of "central casting" for the role of the commanding officer at a Nazi concentration camp! The neo-Nazi outfit in blaring red -- zipped at an angle like the uniforms of Nazi officers is a real throw-back. The little, white iron cross of a medal says it all. I guess she is another United States minister in charge of policies of darkness and hate. Do you suppose she served as Ms. Skull and Bones 1975 and Ms. Goth 1984 at Darkside University? And I project "W" brought her on board because he drools over over the fear and hate she whips up. And I mean whips!
Oh, help us -- who are these people? The whole bunch of them? Get them out - now!
What part of impeachment doesn't Nancy understand ????
I hate pompous American bitches who look like a throwback extra from the original Flash Gordon movie, who actually represent ME at the UN. She can kiss my big white hairy ass!
Tory Stuart Graham, who was on the ten-day trip, would not discuss Ms Cagan but said: "It was very sobering to hear from the horse's mouth how the US sees the situation."
From the looks of her, I'd say Mr. Graham is confused as to which end of the horse is talking. Of course the USA government has been talking out it's collective ass for a long long time. But now with Ms Cagan we can truly visualize it, breaking wind.
What a Nazi looking, fascist,............. creature.
Every time I think I have seen the worst, something like this pops up to show me how much worse it can get.
Wow, holy crap! I just noticed the Iron Cross she is wearing too. Who slipped the bad brown acid in my coffee this morning? Is my high going to get worse? Who is this crazy witch?
from the article:
"Tory Stuart Graham, who was on the ten-day trip, would not discuss Ms Cagan but said: "It was very sobering to hear from the horse's mouth how the US sees the situation.""
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mr stuart, it may have been the horse's ass that you were listening to.
her sentiment about hating the iranians is pathetic but it is slightly better than cheney who seems to hate everyone and everything, including life itself.
i trust it is not unkind to say that we are dismayed by this kind of attitude.
obviously, they hate the iraqis too. how else can you explain the annihilation of a country?
ms kagan's ugly disposition seems to be very much in keeping with her overall presentation.
Demerara. I sure did. She is seriously scary.
enterik:
Yes, My first thoughts were…Rosa Klebb?! Is that you? or is it Frau Farbissina? Either way,watch out for the shoe…
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that is good! LMAO.
"It's a man baby."
yeah, it's a man. considering the abundance of closeted homosexuals in the republican party, trying to pass as a woman is probably the best defense.
Currently yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is a crime. So is threatening to kill someone. So is threating to hit someone. I'd like it if our culture evoved to enforce our laws against crimes of inciting hatred and war. It was a crime in Rwanda when it led to genocide. It is a crime now, especially applied to government officials such as described in this article. Remember, the SC in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, Justice Kennedy ruled with the majority saying that "ratified treaties" are "binding federal law." In the Constitution, Article 6 (2) states that "treaties made" are "the supreme law of the land." (Enforcement is another question.)
The laws that come the closest are provisions of the Genocide Treaty of 1948 and the Article 20 of the CCPR.
The 1948 Convention on Genocide says this:
"Article 3
The following acts shall be punishable:
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
(e) Complicity in genocide."
What is genocide?
"Article 2
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/instree/x1cppcg.htm
Convention on Civil and Political Rights:
"Article 20Â
1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.
2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law."
http://www.ohchr.org/english/law/ccpr.htm
It seems to me, this article is describing a crime.
I looked up debra cagan on google.
The picture of her (reproduced in the above article) was taken when she received Hungary's Commander's Cross Order of Merit during the Hungarian Embassy's celebration of Nation Day. (It celebrates the 1956 anti-Soviet uprising.)
The maltese cross on her chest is probably the Commander's Cross.
The point is is that she received the cross for simply being a hack official that happened to be in that job at that time.
Second, the Hungarian authorities decorated her and a couple of other U.S. potentates for the same reason that they handed out medals to visiting Soviet potentates during the Soviet era...to suck up to their Masters.
This seems to be a problem that has infected many "leaders" of today's Eastern Europe.
After introducing IMF and World Bank notrums of radical privatization, deregulation and huge cuts in health, education and welfare to Eastern Europe, these newly enriched Eastern European thugs compete to kiss the ring of their gangster mentors from the U.S.
Ahhh. Freedom calls, those without balls.
Thats the toughest,meanest,roughest "butch" I have ever seen.
I googled images also, thinking "there's got to be another picture". Strangely, it's the ONLY picture that I could find.
They must have let her out of the bunker for just that day.
Why would jjpeter classify this he/she thing with John Kerry? Kerry was offering his life in nam while you and the other neo-nizi repugs were dodging military service.I am a highly decorated Vietnam vet. That will soon mail his ribbons and medal to the corrupe neo-cons also. So go to the repug area jjpeter.
The thing that worries me the most, is that this isnt all over the news as something shocking and worthy of investigation. Not surprising, but still worrying...
Well, please no one can help being physically ugly, but they certainly are responsible for their hatred! What has happened to the US? And yes, these people are all nuts, but we as Americans, aren't actively doing anything about it...I miss pro-active politics!
Wait till Jon Stewart gets hold of this!
Who IS this Person ??? My GAWD !!! Powerful...in My Pentagon...Senior Advisor to the President of the U.S. ?!? I am Aghast !!!
Ok, folks, enough gasping about the latest creature from the blue lagoon! Now, the bottom line is "What are we going to DO about this?" Does anyone have some constructive ideas besides possibly joining the Iranian army? We have got to get Congress MOVING FAST to represent the AMERICAN PEOPLE'S WISHES again before Iran becomes Iraq. Sending letters to all Republicans in Congress might help but I think it's going to take a little more than that. I would sleep out on the White House lawn but I'm now 58 and have a bad back, which doesn't react well to the insides of a Guantanamo-like structure. So, whatever it is we're all gonna do, it should be massive, be extemely well organized and get done VERY SOON!!! Otherwise, we are just going to be seeing more "creatures" coming out of the woodwork saying they represent the American people. Now, can anyone pass me a vomit bag? Thanks!!!
Anyone ever watch Farscape? If only she had a leather mask to go with that outfit.
I wouldn't say the alternative picture is that flattering of her either. If I was doing her P.R., I would get a professional portrait done of her to hand out to photographers, but I am a little disappointed in all the comments focusing on her appearance. If she looked like Ann Coulter, she would still be wrong.
Leaders in diplomatic posts should not be making statements like I hate all "whatever". This type of talk is done by those determined to go to war, and unwilling to find a swift completion of the war.
Mark my words, if someone friendly to the neo-cons wins the Republican nomination, we will invade Iran, so that people can say during the election, "we can't change horses midrace." The invasion will have little strategic or diplomatic merit, except to distract the American people from the current military fiascoes in Iran and Afghanistan.
Damn..did Dr. Stangelove get a really bad sex change or what???
Sounds like Debra Cagan would be unsuitable for a balanced approach to her job. What is her background? Religious beliefs. What are her affiliations to right wing / religious / Israeli organisations. What has she publically said before? All these things must have influanced her selection for her current role, her selectors and employers being the neocon swillers, killers and assorted sycophants and religious loonies (also known as the current American Government). Is her hatred confined to Iranians, or do the French, South Americans, Mexicans, Sudanese, or any other of her bosses current victim targets matter? Is there any class of human beings she actually cares for, or is the entire world doomed in her opinion? It is after all, given her attitude, only a matter of time.
ha ha, you guys got a lot of good ones in
"Yowza, is that Cruella DeVille or did Anne Coulter just get an S&M makeover in East Berlin?"
Not all that exciting, just a minor Bush functionary running off at the mouth. She doesn't make, or probably even understand, policy. Typical Bushie - unfailingly loyal (to Bush, not the US), and dumb as a stump. (See Miers, Helen, or Gonzales, Alberto, for example). Curious that they let her talk to visiting Brits, may have been an oversight. They should have got a deputy assistant secretary of something or other who was well-briefed on official speech.
Odd that the Hungarians would give a 1956 medal to any American - we encouraged them to revolt, promising support, then when they did revolt, backed off and did nothing while the freedom fighters were destroyed by Russian tanks and artillery. Of course this woman probably wasn't even born then.
Incredible!! We demonize Ahmadinejad by playing up a statement he never made while we allow this wacko to be a Pentagon spokeswoman. This administration is so arrogant that it no longer cares what it says or what people think of it.
Of course not. We're America goddammit!!
A final thought. Is that a slightly stylised version of an Iron Cross hanging from her neck?
You guys are so mean. s/he's just a sweet transvestite, transexual from transylvania...
"Debra Cagan and Dick Cheney have been acquaintances since the end of the Nixon administration."
***Fun With Captions***
1st Photo
"Danke, hee hee I mean thank you, ja ja thank you!"
(notice the embarrased Hungarian woman in the background)
2nd Photo
"And, Ms. Cagan, after we applied your electrical interrogation techniques, you can see from the slide, that the Iranian Prisoner's penis is now only this big!"
Notice how her comment, about hating "all" Iranians, came out after Ahmenidijad stated that there were no homosexuals in Iran. I guess upto that point she was holding out hope that there may be some Iranians (s)he may like.
Sorry, too easy. Any other captions for the Assistant Deputy Secretrary for Scaring Allies?
"She is very forceful and some of my colleagues were intimidated by her muscular style."
Lord Bumbelberry,Deputy Assistant Minister for the Coalition of Woosies informed Ms. Cagan that, "Terribly sorry, no S&M please, we're British!"
Ramsay
Well, at least she told them the truth, which should be seen as a welcome change coming from someone in the Bush regime.
I, like some others here, thought I was looking at a made-up male when I saw the picture of Cagan. Kinda disorienting, but she and Sick Cheney definitely look like their personalities.
Hell, it took me a while to figure out that the "upset Britney Spears defender" on YouTube was a male, so maybe I shouldn't be too hard on myself...
It's Ernst Rohm of the SA back from the dead, and now as a "woman."
I want to write something here, anything, but words elude me for once.
As progressives we shouldn't care less if s/he is a member of the GLBT community, what college/hometown or background s/he came from. What matters here is the absolutely insane/inflammatory commentary. It's clear again that Bush/Liebermann have no interest in any sort of diplomacy. They've got bloodlust coursing in their veins. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians aren't enough. Methinks they want to start off the 21st century with a bang.
One wonders what the British think. Their Blair was buddy-buddy with Bush. Bush is clearly undoing the American Revolution of 1776 -- not only returning America to its place as a colony of the UK, but also willing to take on the expense/risk/bloodshed of former British Empire colonial maintenance.
These people are lunatics. Where's the real leadership hiding in the US?
interestingly enough, subsitute "Iranian" with "Black" "Jewish "Christian," and there would be a national uproar.
I guess some races and forms of discrimination and blatent bigotry are up for grabs now, eh?
Does anyone need more evidence that the US is in Fascist hands?
Every so often life unquestionably imitates art... such synchronicity between speech and appearance. Let us savor the moment.
"Cagan in spanish means "to shit on". BTW, can we post pics here now?
From the two photos one can only conclude one or two views. Ms. or Mr. Cagan reminds one of Bela Lugosi's aide de camp in a forgetable B movie. Or its Ann Coulter with unbleached hair and a Saharan [probably Moroccan] tan. In her usual "tease" pose.
Still one has to wonder what she/he is able to advise military generals on unless its a form of domination of the muslim male. is it possible to find out whether she/he is a Kabballah creation normally known as a "golem"?
Cause she/he has that "certain look of je ne sais quoi" that people like Sarkozy [born in Hungary] and Kurchner [born next door to Hungary] just go ape over.
Cagan, she-wolf of the SS? What a hateful creature!