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US Is Top Arms Seller to Developing World
WASHINGTON - The United States maintained its role as the leading supplier of weapons to the developing world in 2006, followed by Russia and Britain, according to a Congressional study to be released Monday. Pakistan, India and Saudi Arabia were the top buyers.
The global arms market is highly competitive, with manufacturing nations seeking both to increase profits and to expand political influence through weapons sales to developing nations, which reached nearly $28.8 billion in 2006.
That sales total was a slight drop from the 2005 figure of $31.8 billion, a trend explained by the strain of rising fuel prices that prompted many developing states - except those that produce oil - to choose upgrading current arsenals over buying new weapons.
The report, "Conventional Arms Transfers to Developing Nations," was produced by the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, a division of the Library of Congress, and presents a number of interesting observations linking arms sales and global politics. For example, Russia has been a major supplier of weapons to Iran in past years, including a $700 million deal for surface-to-air missiles in 2005.
But anxieties over Iran's nuclear program can be seen as having deterred Moscow from concluding significant new conventional arms deals with Iran in 2006, deals that could be viewed as overly provocative while the Security Council debates new sanctions on Iran.
At the same time, though, Russia continues to nurture an arms-trade relationship that is deeply disturbing to the Bush administration, by signing weapons deals with oil-rich Venezuela and its anti-American leader, Hugo Chávez.
The Russian agreements with Venezuela in 2006 included the sale of two dozen Su-30 fighter jets valued at more than $1 billion, along with attack and transport helicopters valued at more than $700 million.
Russia also sold Venezuela a large number of AK-series assault rifles in a deal that included a pledge to build a factory in Venezuela to produce those rifles and ammunition, together valued at more than $500 million.
"Venezuela's populist president, Hugo Chávez, has taken a hostile approach to relations with the United States in recent years," wrote Richard F. Grimmett, a specialist in national defense at the Congressional Research Service.
"Thus his decision to seek advanced military equipment from Russia is a matter of U.S. concern," Mr. Grimmett wrote in the report. "Chávez appears embarked on an effort to make Venezuela an important military force in Latin America."
The study makes clear also that the United States has signed weapons-sales agreements with nations whose records on democracy and human rights are subject to official criticism.
The announcement of major new arms agreements with Pakistan last year renewed debate over whether the Bush administration was elevating its counterterrorism priorities above its pledge to spread democracy around the world.
Pakistan was a major recipient of American arms sales in 2006, including the $1.4 billion purchase of 36 new F-16C/D fighter aircraft and $640 million in missiles and bombs. The deal included a package for $890 million in upgrades for Pakistan's older versions of the F-16.
At the same time, the State Department's own survey of global human rights in 2006 noted a variety of shortcomings in Pakistan's record on human rights and democratization.
But the Bush administration has argued that it is important to maintain the support of a nuclear-armed Pakistan in the broader counterterrorism fight, in particular as Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders regroup in the rugged North-West Frontier Province along the Afghan border.
In 2006, the United States agreed to sell $10.3 billion in weapons to the developing world, or 35.8 percent of these deals worldwide, according to the study. Russia was second with $8.1 billion, or 28.1 percent, and Britain was third with $3.1 billion, or 10.8 percent.
Pakistan concluded $5.1 billion in agreements to buy arms in 2006. That total was followed by India with $3.5 billion in agreements and Saudi Arabia with $3.2 billion in deals.
The combined value of arms sales worldwide to both developed and developing nations in 2006 reached $40.3 billion, a decline of nearly 13 percent from 2005.
When combining totals for arms sales to developed and developing nations, the ranking of world arms dealers remained the same. The United States led with $16.9 billion, followed by Russia with $8.7 billion and Britain with $3.1 billion. The 2006 sales figures for all three nations were higher than their totals in 2005.
China plays an interesting role in the arms market, being both a purchaser of advanced air and naval weapons, from Russia, and as a supplier of less-expensive arms to developing nations.
Mr. Grimmett's study uses figures in 2006 dollars, with amounts for previous years adjusted for inflation, to give a constant financial measurement.
© 2007 The New York Times

52 Comments so far
Show AllAnd the IMF loan sharks will 'loan' the money to make debt slaves of any third world survivors. At this rate we won't need to worry about global warming - none of us will live long enough.
Gandhi: Good post!
President Sheehan :) writes: "Like I said in a recent article: The USA's number one export is violence."
I agree sister, - and in more ways than one: I view the mind-mess that the film industry pumps out (and then exports all round the world) as being also very much part of the problem.
For as long as generations of kids are bought up to worship warfare and violence and macho *diplomacy through the barrel of a gun* then we again succeed in warping young minds away from all that is TRULY spiritual, -and *civilised*, and into the same old barbaric consciousness of yesteryear.
The bulk of humanity (the ordinary people in this world) are CRYING out, -- for fewer wars, less harmful activity, -for a peaceful place to live, so that they can just get on with their work, raising their kids in peace etc.
But... in their ungodly, demonic mindset, our leaders keep on inventing new ways to stir up further antagonisms, which then seed further hatred and divisions, -in perpetuity, (- IF we let them!)
WE NEED ONLY ONE SHOT!
~ and that is a shot of *LOVE* to filter through into the malformed minds and hearts of those in power!
Then they can begin to act as responsible citizens of the WORLD and not like 'drunken cowboys out to terrorise the town on a Friday night'...
In striving,
UCD.
What the article isn't saying is how much of those sales are giveaways sponsored by US taxpayers. The arms industry is subsidied by the US government and the US government gives away billions of dollars in "military aid" to countries like Israel.
US arms makers are raking in megabucks and turning the world into a powderkeg, and our tax dollars are paying for it.
You got THAT right, dfairley. I don't know if the US has a Taxpayers Association, but if you do, you otta look up exactly how much of your hard-earned money is going to arm the Israelis, the Saudis, and several other apartheid-style regimes around the globe. That's super-generous of you. Just imagine how grateful we all are. Is it any wonder people fly airplanes into your office-buildings?
The US has prided itself with providing guns bombs and jets to some of the most savage regimes on the planet, so that they can mow 'em all down, or better yet, gas 'em.
At a theater near you, Jamie Foxx mowin' down terrorists.
I am eagerly awaiting the report that will TABULATE the cost and use of said sold arms upon populations and infrastructure! Now that would be ONE for the balance sheets!
GANDHI: Right on!
The Times article stipulates, ""Venezuela's populist president, Hugo Chávez, has taken a hostile approach to relations with the United States." Such a charming comment given it does nothing to predicate just WHY this is so; like could it have anything to do with Bush's rants against varied "axis of evil" members.
It furthers, "The study makes clear also that the United States has signed weapons-sales agreements with nations whose records on democracy and human rights are subject to official criticism." LOOK IN THE MIRROR, US policy makers and those that are spending future lifetimes of karma on their over-bloated profits of blood now.
It's amazing the way the Times still grants this administration and US foreign policy the moral high ground when the FACTS speak otherwise with blatant brutality. It's disgusting the glib moral disconnect that represents the attitude of this Times commentary.
The next time our friends, family, or neighbors say their military-industrial complex jobs keep America free and safe, remind them that much of that production is exported. Reconstituting decency in this society is a grass roots task. It's OUR task.
I understand our military recently "lost" 150,000 Russian designed AK-47 rifles in Iraq. Why is it our weapons manufacturers are making those types of guns, couldn't they make a better profit by outsourcing the work to China? Ummm, maybe they do, China is manufacturing many of our military aircraft and vehicle parts now.
It's good to know we still produce something other than plactic and paper items. Maybe our economy isn't in as bad a shape as we are often led to believe? I'm starting to feel better already after reading this article.
It is no wonder the American culture of "god and gun" is being promoted in the world in the name of protecting and/or promoting "democracy and freedom". Who are the major purchasers of the American weapons: Pakistan with 5.1 billions worth of weapons(dictatorship + the base of terrorist organisations, including Al Qaeda) and Saudi Arabia with 3.2 billions worth of weapons (dictatorship + a country that is funding and sponsoring terrorism, including Al Qaeda).
What does it prove? American understanding of "democracy" is nothing but DICTATORSHIP, and its understanding of "freedom" is nothing but TERRORISM.
Yet this hypocritical country (and its European allies)points its finger at other countries about democracy and freedom and wants to teach "American democracy and freedom" to these nations. SHAMELESS!!!!!!!
The USA is the #1 king of horror. More than half of all ties to horror on the planet have ties to the monstrous American empire.
It is time to dismantle the empire.
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Q. If the US and other forces were to ask for advice from Hierarchy, what advice and solutions to the terrible mess of Afghanistan and Iraq would they receive?
A. To admit the wrong committed by the invasions and to pour the necessary monies and all other resources to restore these countries to peace and calm. To hold an international UN-led inquiry into the best way to begin and complete this restoration and to avow no further incursions of a like kind anywhere in the world.
Excerpted from: Questions and answers
http://share-international.org/magazine/SI_current.htm#qa
Hey Ghandi, we've permanently 'freed' over a million Iraqis since we got rid of their cruel leader. And another three or four million have been allowed to safely depart their land. That's what Iraqi Freedon has accomplished so far, and it ain't over yet. Act two is about to begin in Iran, we're gonna give them Arabs Democracy if we have to shove it up their asses.
1917-Brown Bros. Harriman 120 Broadway, NY - the beginning of the Industrial Military Complex.
The players: Rockefeller, Samuel Bush, Geo. Herbert Walker (Buffalo Steel), The Harriman Bros... to name a few. Bechtel & Westinghouse operated out of that address (I may be wrong about Becthel's)
Cheney & Rummmy sold more weapons when Clinton was in office than the #'s depicted in the graphic.
"American Dynasty" - by Kevin Churchill is the source of that info.
What is meant by the "United States,Russia, Great Britain" in terms of being largest suppliers of arms... does that refer to private businesses within these countries...and if so are the sales monitored and approved by legislators? And as to the purchasers...is it private or governments buying?
Wow, America. What a dubious honor.
Since you haven't been using it lately anyway, maybe you should throw out your Constitution and adopt Star Trek's "Prime Directive," which states, among other things, "Thou shalt not deal in arms."
Either that, or start dismantling your military-industrial complex.
If it's good for business, it's good for the country.
"How do we know Saddam has WMD?" We kept the receipts." Noam Chomsky
And I will always wonder if my son was killed by a weapon sold or given to Iraq by the USA.
Of course we sell weapons to regimes with questionable human rights' records. Many times we prop up the dictator until he has served his purpose.
Like I said in a recent article: The USA's number one export is violence.
I don't know how these times could get any more "interesting."
I also find it so troubling that Congress has the time to condemn MoveOn and not Myanmar and CNN has been going on and on all weekend about one political refugee from there when millions have been made refugee from or in Iraq and I have not heard one peep from mainstream American media.
Ai
Cindy
We're number one! We're number one! Go Democracy!
God bless America, too, cause we're also the leading weapons suppliers to the fully developed world's war mongers as well! And that's not even counting the weapons we can't account for, or the weapons we'll never know about because of "national security" reasons.
Just gives ya a nice warm fuzzy, doesn't it? It's hard to imagine why any "they" hate us...
The US is a dictatorship, terrorist state itself; not only Pakistan and Saudi Arabia; but actually, no, I soundly reject the ignorant demonization of those middle eastern countries, acting as if they are "our enemies" in some sort of immature, vapid display as if they don't have valid concerns and weren't the victims of real, unpunished crimes by the west.
According to Agence France: US corners 42 percent of world arms market
The United States reaffirmed last year its leadership in world arms trade, cornering nearly 42 percent of the market as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan prompted a weapons shopping spree among neighboring nations, according to a congressional report set to be released Monday.
The United States ranked first in international arms transfer agreements last year, concluding 16.9 billion dollars worth of them and securing 41.9 percent of the market, according to the report.
Who's numbers will you choose to believe?
You know there have to be unsanctioned sales our government sets up with arms dealers. These are done on the sly.
What hope does the world have when the world's largest economy and alledgedly only superpower is so irresponsible?
HagbardCeline October 1st, 2007 7:24 pm
"What hope does the world have when the world's largest economy and alledgedly only superpower is so irresponsible?"
World's largest economy??? We are certainly the world's largest debtors.
Our only hope is that the morons who keep loaning money to the empire-builders will shut us off, immediately! That would force our legislators to figure out how the hell they are going to get this country on the path to solvency.
War is extremely profitable, especially when the destruction takes place away from your home country. The third world pays the human cost; as do those who join the US military, while middle and lower income citizens in the US pick-up the tab. The environmental damage is left for the survivors and future generations. The only ones who profit are the big corporations that produce the weapons and provide logistical support and of course their wealthy stockholders.
That's what Capitalism is about. Ruthlessly externalize cost and engage in any business produces a large enough ROI. No endeavor is off limits, even war. Further, have the government refrain from any action that would impede the "efficiency" of "free market" capitalism. If anyone questions the wisdom of the approach, ignore them or marginalize their protest, if that doesn't work, limit their rights to assembly. That is the reality in the US today.
Someone mentioned a "Taxpayer Association", what a novel idea! Have taxpayers lobby the government like big business does. Unfortunately, both parties quit listening to voters decades ago. They lie to us every election year and we keep voting the incumbents back into office. They can do this because they know that we have no meaningful choice.
You know the definition of insanity...doing the same things over and over and expecting to get a different result each time. When will voters learn that their vote merely confers legitimacy on a sham. If you want the government to listen, money talks.
The US of A is characterized "by an incestuous relation between bankers, political-financial pressure groups and corrupt government officials."
Hey, KEM PATRICK.
Hi, Io Q. Lellity, wazzup?
Yup. All this is true. Or, at least, most of it. (the comments.)
Funny that ya' don't hear too much about Russia, although it's the 2nd biggest supplier of weapons to the developing world and only trails the US by a difference of 8%.
Ain't that a corker?
On October 1, 1949, the People's Republic of China was formally established, with its national capital at Beijing.
Dr. Zimmerman Robert, well isn't that special? What the hell's that got to do with anything?
I'm prepared to withdraw $1000 from my bank account in protest. If I could possibly get a million more "activists" to do it with me on the same day it would quite possibly make an impression on somebody influential somewhere, dont you think?
You better take it all out before the depession hits. A lot of banks are not federally insured, when the depresion hits, they will be closed for withdrawls and credit cards will be useless plastic.
Let's speed it up. Anyway, unless you had cash, what good would it do to take it all out? A million (or more) of us making a withdrawal at the same time and waiting a day and putting it back and then taking it out again if there were on results would be a real financial hemorrhoid!
sparkemup-
Withdraw your money. I have. It's better in gold and silver (or Euros, pounds or canadian dollars) ... the US dollar is steadily decreasing in value, gold and silver are steadily going up! They keep printing more and more money with nothing to back it up. Eventually the US markets will totally collapse. From the ashes, we'll build an economic system that is good for everyone, rather than just the rich. The coming total collapse is definitely something to look forward to!
When it starts to fall - people get ready - stock your shelfs with food - cause there will be problems getting ti!
Numbers, weapons and accounting.
The number of small arms weapons reported missing from US/allied forces was 190,000, not 150,000. That does not include 200,000 AK-47s purchased from a Bosnian gun dealer, blacklisted by the Pentagon that disappeared en route to Iraq.
In years past, the Pentagon was required to account for equipment. Over a 10 year period, initial audits showed that the lack of accountability of missing/unaccountable equipment was larger than several years' worth of pentagon budget. Instead of correcting this threat to American security, the Pentagon in recent years is no longer required to conduct such audits.
Given America's track record in the past and especially under Bush, I have no doubt that large amounts of armaments have wound up in the hands of those who terrorize their own and other peoples and whose philosophy and actions are antithetical to democracy and representative government.
War crimes are crimes the President cannot pardon.
This is "news"?
Weapons should be banned as a product of trade...PERIOD!
Wow, what a magnificent accomplishment the number one arms dealer in the world.
When is the awards ceremony?
I want to see George W Bush accept this coveted award on behalf of all the wonderful arms merchants around the country and our outsourcing slave laborers around the world. Marvelous achievement America, lets give a big round of applause to these great merchants of death and destruction.
The captains of industry should be very proud, well done Wall Street. Now lets get ready for a new season of world conflict by sending lethal arms to our friends around the globe and help them to kill their neighbors even more efficiently next year. Common lets hear it for the moguls of industry.
SEQUOIABISON,
Maybe the CEO of Blackwater could present the award to Bush, and just for kicks Charlton Heston could dress up as Moses again, and all three could stand under the NRA sign with a rifle in one hand and a Bible in the other. Kinda makes a nice family picture of primates, does it not?
BILL BRG, excellent points. In the mid 1940s, a M1 Garand turned up missing at Roosevelt Military Academy in Aledo Ill. The rifles were on loan from the Army to the school, which actually had no connection to the government and was not ROTC certified. That SINGLE missing rifle, caused a huge military and government investigation, including the FBI. They finally traced it to the armory beneath the gymnasium stored with the 22 calibre rifles used for target practice.
Now with thousands of missing or "lost" weapons and tons of high explosives unnacounted for, six nukes "accidently" loaded on a B-52 which is flown across country, and it's, "Oh well, stuff happens". Yes indeed, "stuff" does happen.
BTW, silver is way under valued at the present time, gold is not. It is the time to purchase silver, our dollar is now worth about six cents, if that.
It's good to see that the Times is doing their part to fan the flames of demonizing Venezuela and Chavez. They make it sound like buying 24 jets is a looming threat to the U.S., but that 36 for Pakistan isn't a problem for anyone.
If the U.S. really wanted to promote democracy around the globe, they'd be making friendly with the democratically elected government in Venezuela instead of the corrupt regimes in the Middle East.
Oops--what was I thinking? I forgot that Venezuela has oil that we're going to need to steal from them sometime in the future. Never mind. Please keep demonizing them so that we'll have an excuse to attack them when the time comes.
I admire this philanthropic jester from the country whose contribution to humanity is the export of killing machines. Don't get me wrong. Those weapons help the developing countries to kill their people in wars as a way to control population explosion. Thank you America. People just don't realize how good you are, over the left.
It's astounding. The "we'll print more money" Enron strategy of debt management. Man, I wish I'd have bought gold when it was $330/oz! Back when I had money, I remember staring at it and thinking to myself: "What's wrong with gold? Did the Russians dump so much on the market that now it's practically worthless? Is it going to $100/oz?"
So like a moron, I always wait till I can buy it up high. God I never learn. Meanwhile, back at the Billionaire's club, Warren Buffet bought up Silver (at the bottom of course) and has dumped all his dollars for foreign currencies. He has no confidence in the dollar. Gulp! Right when I don't know where to put it.....
Somebody said they were filling up their basement with pennies! Melt the copper and you're golden aye?
On a negative note:
By the Way, Zoya, you offend me by taking swipes at all Americans in your posts. Please confine your remarks to NeoCon, or Fortune-500 Americans. Seventy percent of us don't appove of this chit.
I love America.
That's why I feel she's worth fighting for. You'll never produce positive change with her citizens if you paint us all with the same brush.
Way to go Cindy S! (a true patriot)
Haven't seen you since the 04' march!
pac
What is disturbing is that the US controls the UN security Council and the UN in general. That is why the US is able to use the Security Council as a platform to bomb those countries that oppose its hegemony and terrorist activities and support its allies like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan.... This trend is quite alarming and threatening for democracy and freedom.
Two days back I was talking to an American. She was quite enthusiastic to talk about Myanmar and Darfur and their democracy and human rights violations. But she does not want to talk about US crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Congo. This is the general American mindset. It is this which is aiding the US government and its agencies like CIA to "PROMOTE ITS FORM OF DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM" to other parts of the world, by selling deadly weapons to dictators and fascist governments and bombing those sovereign countries having people elected government, that do not buy American weapons.
The inevitable result of the process we call free market Capitalism is corruption, political thuggery, violence, and endless wars.
deepa - I agree about folks not wanting to face up to "america's ways".
And then here is this at the end of the following link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071002/ap_on_go_co/blackwater_iraq;_ylt=AkIjKgrKLQAFQ6mwRW_vc_.s0NUE
"Blackwater bills the U.S. government $1,222 per day for a single "protective security specialist," the report says. That works out to $445,891 on an annual basis, far higher than it would cost the military to provide the same service. "
What does "Arms Seller" mean - just physical weapons. What about mercenaries - are they included in the calculations? What about the constant focus on and emphasis upon stinkin war back here in the US of A - what is the cost of this? Is this not all getting beyond ridiculous into the surreal?
And then just yesterday i read something saying the senate by something like 97-3 approved more funding for war. I just don't understand - this is becoming incomphrehensible not to mention reprehensible and downright offensive in every way.
Peace,
Ken Hausle
and let me just add this - my heart goes out to the monks who have been killed by killers just for walking and talking and reaching out.
it just shows how so-called "dominating" behavior is mimicked....mimicked by those mainly "ego-based" folks who refuse to learn....
i'd say this though, there are many monks left and the "wrath of a monk" is nothing to play with.....
Peace,
Ken Hausle
Charlotte, NC
and deepa,
Since we don't have enough problems already, what do you suggest we do about this one? Your American friend you were talking with knows that the government is a 900 pound Gorilla in the room and you want her to what? Bitch slap it? Tell it to quit Chitting all over everybody in the house? It's not going to be pretty when that happens and everybody knows it. That is the first sign that we are living in 1937 Berlin: fear of speaking of what the SS is doing.
Every state feels the need to protect itself from religious/ethnic/cultural neighbors who can't stay on their side of the border or tolerate the thought of somebody kneeling down a different direction to a different God.....
They are going to buy these weapons from somebody. Russia, china, Britain. The jews are scaring the chit out of the whole region with their insistence of preemptive bombing and police state atrocities to a people who are 99% a genetic match for themselves.... and making bombing raids on suspected activities in Syria.....
Its a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!
And yet we keep blaming the gun or the automobile for the accident and not the one who purchased the thing in a fit of drunken rage or fear. When are we going to learn that when you ban something so desired, like drugs or guns or sex, all it ever does is set up a black market for these things.
2500 years ago the same killing was happening in the same places but with swords, rocks bows and arrows......
Did we blame the rock chippers? The blacksmiths? The arrow makers?
No.
We should have blamed the lack of checks and balances to keep control of our governments. That's precisely why the world is dorked up now.....
Restore checks and balances to the U.S. government and to the governments of the middle east and we'll be back to the same old stalemate that by comparison seems right now like nirvana.
pac "federalist papers" plyer
pacplyer: your message reads as if you think "war in inevitable" and if anything is "banned" that will just make it "more desirable".
"Bull honkey"
If i have misinterpreted what you are saying please correct me.
Peace,
Ken Hausle
China is manufacturing many of our military aircraft and vehicle parts now.
Hi ya KEM!
Just curious who the companies are and the Planes they manufacture. Are these sub-contractors to Northrop, Boeing, GD?
Send me the info.
Thanks.
When EVERYBODY has WMD'S we might begin to respect each other. KLATU BARADA NIKTO!
MaxheMust___ Your pile of gold and silver better be kept out of sight and no one know about it, or while it may have high value and cash is worthless, your life will be worth nothing either if it is found out. A nice stock of food will not last long either. Remember, we have a well armed citizenry that would not hesitate to take what they want if our country falls into chaos. Our nation has developed a love for violence that would turn us into another Darfur or Burma in a short time. Our best chance is to stop fighting each other and try to collectively figure how to survive if Bush and Cheny get itchy trigger fingers and start WWIII.
Ken,
sorry for not responding. The wordpress system wouldn't give me a "Join the discussion" box there for a while.
I am just saying, that if you look at maps of world history, that our species is predisposed, if you will to war. Even American history is replete with numerous invations and "police actions" and covert actions, and cia gov overthrows and attempted assasinations all over the world. That's what the hell we do. And no weapon ever created stayed in the country of its origin.
Right now, as in most of the twenty years I flew around the world in my previous life for corporate america, there are more than 100 armed conflicts going on that never even make the papers. I'll bet many didn't know that Burma and Thaland have been at war for years. I'll bet many didn't know that a Filipino civil war has been going on for decades. I'll bet many didn't know a civil war has been going on in Sri Lanka for ever. I'll bet many didn't know that China stole numerous islands in the south china sea from several countries because they are huge. I'll bet many didn't know that a rice paddy war has been going on at the Tokyo (Narita) airport over land for twenty years. I'll bet I don't know about at least fifty armed conflicts on the African subcontinent alone right now. These things are only news when you talk face to face with the people on the ground. Some are reported on the last page of a foriegn paper, if at all.
I'm sorry if I feel it is a bleeding-heart-liberal unobtainable utopia to stamp out war. It's part of man.
It doen't mean we shouldn't try to stop suffering in the world; I just think we should realize that without population control the hope of global harmony is doomed.
Sorry. I'm a realist.
All we can do is look out for American interests. And right now they are more environmental than economic IMHO. Wall Street has to be redirected towards sustainablility, and tell it's puppets in D.C. to consider Carbon output as the greatest threat we have ever faced, not a WMD five years from now. I advocate Obtainable goals that's all.
pac
pacplyer - thank-you for your response. Much of what you says seems very sensible although when you put forth that war is "part of man", i couldn't help but interpret it literally as the gender of "man" --- although i know that is a considerable simplification of the reality. And indeed as you say it has been "all about domination" for what 5000 years or so and maybe some would argue "since the get go", but does that mean it must remain this way????
I consider myself a realist also (although maybe an idealistic one), and i agree with what you speak to regarding ecological calamity (global warming, deforestation, topsoil degradation, diminishing food and water supplies etc.). Here is the irony. It can be strongly and emphatically argued that the cause of the ecological collapse we are now witnessing (even though many are trying to pretend it isn't happening) is directly attributable to war in all of its manifestations. Thus, if war is not diminished extensively, then it seems as if we are just doomed because things will not get better when there is all this chaos. If we want things to get better we are going to need to work together. Cliche' maybe, but realistic.
If you are interested, check out my new website by clicking on my name above (in blue).
Peace,
Ken Hausle
Charlotte, NC