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Is Spineless Better Than Evil?
This guy's sign at last week's peace rally on the St. Paul Capitol steps really connected with a lot of people. But is the answer that clear?
Considering the slick double-talking of Minnesota Politician Norm Coleman, for example, whom we were able to recently capture on videotape (posted here), artfully dodging and deflecting our questions about why he won't vote to end the occupation of Iraq, how can we even distinguish between what's evil and what's just spineless? Coleman says his is not double-talk, it's "middle ground" and certainly many "fair and balanced" (and lazy) reporters willingly print what he tells them.
But Coleman happens to be one of only a handful of neocon-leaning Senators who co-sponsored the Kyl-Lieberman amendment which passed (once its worst language was removed) and could pave the way for Bush to launch a massive bombing attack on Iran. You know, the bombing that neocon Norman Podhoretz "hopes and prays for"and secretly urged Bush and Rove to begin not long ago. The letter Coleman currently sends out containing his views of "U.S. policy on Iran" is so full of double-talk, that it's hard to figure out what he's saying, but it's probably significant when he inserts "the President may take necessary actions to defend American Security, but Congress must authorize these actions within 60 to 90 days, or the forces must be withdrawn." Certainly 60 to 90 days is enough time for another promised cakewalk to turn into a new quagmire. Then Congress will get involved? Haven't they learned that starting wars is a lot easier than ending them? Or do they really not care at all about this country's national security?
Hardly on "middle ground", Coleman supported the amendment BEFORE the bill's backers were forced to take out its most incendiary language, including a provision "to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power ... including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments". Sen. Dodd, on the other hand, correctly pointed out that it takes little to "give this President a green light to act recklessly and endanger US national security. We learned in the run up to the Iraq war that seemingly nonbinding language passed by this Senate can have profound consequences. We need the president to use robust diplomacy to address concerns with Iran, not the language in this amendment that the president can point to if he decides to draw this country into another disastrous war of choice. We shouldn't repeat our mistakes and enable this President again."
As an aside, the only consolation in the terrible 76-22 vote on Kyl-Lieberman's bill which helps pave the way for Bush-Cheney's plan to bomb Iran was Minnesota Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar's "NO" vote along with 19 other Democrats and Republican Senators Hagel and Lugar. A number of us had been writing and calling her to "stand tall" and resist all the pressures, fear-mongering and special interest groups; but instead, to vote her conscience and do what's right by the Minnesotans who elected her. The small group of 22 Senators "standing tall" yesterday, not giving their go-ahead to "War President" Bush's third war, could not help but bring a lump in my throat as it rekindled memories of the late Paul Wellstone's brave vote in October, 2002. Wellstone was the only Democratic incumbent facing a re-election challenge who voted "no" to the Iraq War along with 22 other Senators. The late Minnesota Senator apparently even defied recommendations from his own staff who wanted him to do the easier thing politically and just go along with the vote authorizing war on Iraq. Wellstone was threatened with loss of his re-election only a few weeks away--to none other than slick politician Norm Coleman. So how tough was Wellstone's decision to vote his conscience under those circumstances?! (And if I may digress on a personal note, seeing Wellstone vote against authorizing a war that I knew to be totally unjustified and based on lies was the epiphany moment that changed me from having reflexively voted for Republicans most of my entire life.)
So the 22 bipartisan votes evidencing spine are proof, on a couple of levels, that this guy's sign is not entirely correct. But polls do show public approval of Congress is down to 11% and there is that common perception of the Democratic majority in Congress being spineless.
Which brings us to the question: IS spineless better than evil? I hate to keep lecturing about this but as an ethics-teacher, and this hopefully being a teachable moment, . . .
Spineless IS better than evil. But spinelessness is characterized by silence and silence is complicity. Inaction is also complicity. The Kitty Genovese stabbing incident exposes how and why bystander apathy works. It is not true apathy but only (temporary) denial of an ugly, unpleasant truth (that a woman's screams could possibly mean someone is being stabbed right below one's window, in one's own alley) and (temporary) confusion as to what to do about it. People are unprepared for such relatively unusual (and horrible) events. And this accounts for both their lack of initial vigilance as well as their inability to react quickly. So in the Kitty Genovese case, thirty eight otherwise good people ignored the sounds of a woman being stabbed but it wasn't because they didn't care. It was primarily because they hadn't practiced for such an event. They hadn't previously carefully considered what to do in such a situation.
Perhaps the most profound lesson of the last century's most horrible event, the Holocaust was: "Thou shalt not be a victim. Thou shalt not be a perpetrator. Above all, thou shalt not be a bystander." The man judged to be smartest of the last century, Albert Einstein, similarly said, "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." These quotes certainly don't mean that any one bystander is worse than any particular perpetrator or evil doer. What they mean is that the perpetrators are few in number while the bystanders are many and could easily stop the perpetrators if they only tried. Unfortunately this sad lesson of history seems to be repeating and, Holocaust museum sign nothwithstanding, few remember it.
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Show AllHow bad does it have to be before US citizens are willing to really act? Myanmar bad? Since we won't be inconvenienced, nor will we be put out of our SUVs or mega mcMansions. Our government instructs us to support the "war on terrorism" by "going shopping." I say we support our troops and wake up the powers that be by putting our wallets and credit cards away for a week, or a day, and let our "leaders" hear the power of the purse strings. Be patriotic, observe "Not one Dime" day on Friday, 11/23/07.
"How can you call Kerry, Murtha, Murphy, Webb or Sestak spineless when they all fought bravely for their country?"
Have they had the courage to join the Peace Movement? It is very easy to do justice; it is very difficult to do right.
Now is the time to end the American involvement in the genocide in Iraq.
Now is the time to end the "War on Terror"
Now is the time to exercise the Bill of Rights.
Now is the time for Universal Healthcare that's free for everyone.
Now is the time to get back the rights and property stolen from the American public.
ira shanel September 30th, 2007 11:51 am
"The Democrats are not monolithic, the Republicans are the Borg and will follow their leader even if it means renouncing their values. How can you call Kerry, Murtha, Murphy, Webb or Sestak spineless when they all fought bravely for their country? You all sound like Repugs, baselessly smearing fine people just because you happen not to agree with them."
While the Democrats are busy being ideologically diverse, the Republicans are busy kicking our butts. I'll bet Bush is very happy to have enough Democratic votes in the House and senate consistently to make his agenda look bipartisan.
"If you haven't noticed, Bush started the war, he's the commander in chief, every death is on his head."
The Democrats who gave him the authority to attack Iraq are responsible as well.
"Is Robert Byrd spineless? He railed against the war from square one, as have most of the democrats."
To his credit, Byrd oppposed the war from the start. Unfortunately, many Democrats supported the war and limited their criticism to how Bush was fighting it.
"Methinks Anney is a Republican plant sent to stir up discontent."
Progressive discontent with the Democrats is hardly an invention of the Republicans. More Republicans approve of this Congress than Democrats. It's time to break with the failed two-party system. Go Green.
VAGreen,
Thanks for a touch of balance. Methinks too that some arguments here are so vehement, even off the wall, that some closet conservatives are getting jollies out of tagging a little grafitti on a progressive place.
As for me being "sent out" by Democrats, not so. I don't even like Democrats all that well. I just know that the alternative is Republicans and I'm very weary of what they have done to our country (since 1981.)
Daniel David
1. I agree that the Dems haven't done all they can. And it is true they can't break a filibuster. We need to elect enough, probably 9 and 10 for sure next election. And for sure a Dem Prez no matter who. The Supreme court is on the verge and one more conservative on it can undo everything that is still intact. And that will last for another 20 years. I don't contend this is more important than lives being lost isn't the most pressing issue, but it is important to realize that one more wingnut judge and they will overturn not just Roe v. Wade, but Social security, medicare, most large social programs. Remember Social Security only survived by a 5 to 4 vote in the 30s despite a court that at that time was liberal. Think of the damage that could be done, millions of seniors in poverty, no healthcare for them. Medicaid, Schip. If you don't think that the right wingers won't push for all of this as they become more and more emboldened, you are wrong. If you listen to right wing talk, their overall objective is to totally overturn the new deal of FDR, the new society of the 60s and 70s of the war on poverty, medicare, etc.
The electorate in the last 7 years has made the Dems extremely gun shy and the constant lies from prez and repugnets do echo across the land and it is unfortunate that this still resonates in the red states. I live in Georgia and hear the wingnuts exicited that this can occur in our lifetime; Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Scalia are licking their chops for just one more wingnut Supreme court judge and we can begin. Justice Breyer, liberal is 87, Ginsberg, Stevens, and Souter in their 70s DANGER! DANGER! DANGER! Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas, just licking their chops for one more wingnut
We must support the Dems and nurse them along no matter what!!! Don't vote for any 3rd party candidates, don't sign any petitions to get other candidates on the ballot in any state. THIS COMING ELECTION IS THAT IMPORTANT.
REMEMBER DIVIDE US AND THEY WIN!!!!!!.
anney September 30th, 2007 9:54 am
"Something's really WRONG with the Democrats and Republicans, and no amount of "soothing" by the Democrats is going to move me. Just actions."
I most certainly agree, I feel the same way and that seems to be what they just don't get. They seem to think that they will get the White House and Congress in 08 by default along with a little nudging of the "we are less evil than the other guys" ploy. I don't think it's going to work this time. They are going to have to take some real action if they want enough votes to win.
Lobo Gris
Lobo Gris
They seem to think that they will get the White House and Congress in 08 by default along with a little nudging of the "we are less evil than the other guys" ploy. I don't think it's going to work this time.
I think it probably will work, since the average voter who doesn't watch anything but the MSM will probably vote Democratic because of their desire to see the troops brought home from Iraq. As others have said, who else are they going to vote for?
By November 2008, I believe Bush will have been authorized to attack Iran with bipartisan support and probably will have already done it, and the Democrats will say they now have to send in reconstruction forces to rebuild Iran, all those mercenaries making billions from US wars. Maybe put in permanent bases and a huge US embassy there, too.
What really worries me -- from all accounts Iran has the capability of a long-range attack on the US to retaliate against an illegal strike against them, quite unlike Iraq. Check out Iran's weapons capabilities -- there's a lot online about them. For sure, the US troops in Iraq will be sitting ducks and suffer terrible casualties since they're in easy striking distance of Iran. As we all know, Iran's right next door. The "bipartisan" legislature may be biting off more than Americans can chew.
The Democratic collusion in Bush's ongoing war plans and profits literally makes me sick.
For me (and i think for many others), we are starting to doubt this whole "of america" myth. If the us attacks Iran in any way, don't you think that will basically be the "nail in the coffin".
Didn't Jefferson say something about Revolution being "healthy" to cleanse the spirit. Something like that. Anyhow, Revolutions always start off small, but then they can rapidly (in the blink of an eye so to speak) and exponentially spread.
I don't think the US is going to attack Iran. If we do, it just shows how low we have gone.
Ken Hausle
Charlotte, NC
anney October 1st, 2007 9:21 am
Speaking about the lesser of two evils scenario
"I think it probably will work, since the average voter who doesn't watch anything but the MSM will probably vote Democratic because of their desire to see the troops brought home from Iraq. As others have said, who else are they going to vote for?"
Mabe it's just wishful thinking on my part but when I see an 11% approval rating for Congress and a poll that shows that barely half of all voters think the current politicians can handle either domestic or international issues it gives me hope that others are waking up.
As for Iran we can't attack them with troops, we don't have any left. We can barely maintain what is in Iraq right now. Not to mention the fact that Iran is a much larger country than Iraq and has a much larger population. If Bush does foolishly attack Iran it will have to be with air strikes only.
As far as I know, and I keep up with military matters, Iran has no capability to attack the U.S. directly on the North American continent. They do have the capability to attack us in Iraq and Afghanistan. They also have the capability to close the straits of Hormuz which they sit astride. 20% of the world's oil passes through that strait and closing it would likely cause major disruptions in the world economy. We might very well see gasoline go up to 5 to 10 dollars a gallon and the price of all goods would go up since just about everything in the U.S. is shipped by truck and when fuel prices go up their costs due also which are passed on to the consumer. Bush could delay it some by dipping into the strategic petroleum reserve to ameliorate prices but whether he could do that for a long enough time to reopen the strait with a hostile Iran sitting astride it is open to question, to me at least.
Lobo Gris
Cause if the "us of a" attacks Iran, lets just be honest about it upfront -- this attack is about gaining control of resources particularly the oil. The whole Iranian "nuclear threat" talk is obviously of no substance whatsoever, and for that matter, same goes with all the "terrorism-fear-creating-mumbo-jumbo" talk. All the talk/spin is just a smokescreen.
So anyhow, if you agree with this -- that it is about the resources -- then what it says is: It is OK to steal. It is OK to murder. Thats 2 of the 10 right off the bat, and i betcha the other 8 won't do that well either. Does this make sense?
So if it is OK for the country of the us to do this, then it might as well be OK for any entity to do this. Why not? Why does one country get to do it and the others don't especially if that one country is just going to bully one after another? For that matter, why does it even need to be countries that we are talking about. Lets just have a "freeforall".
Anyhow, i'll stop this rant for now, but i know in my heart if the "us of a" attacks Iran that changes everything as far as my plan is concerned.
Oh how i pray for Peace.
Peace,
Ken Hausle
My favorite bumper sticker of the last few election cycles:
"SATAN FOR PRESIDENT! Why choose the LESSER of two evils?"
My favorite bumper sticker of the last few election cycles:
"VOTE FOR SATAN! Why choose the LESSER of two evils?"
Lobo Gris
Yes, I checked it again, and Iran's missles don't have a 7500-mile range. I converted kilometers to miles wrongly.
The Iranians did say this earlier this month:
Iran threatens missile attacks on US targets
This means America's allies in Europe, in addition to all the other consequences you mention. Seymour Hersh believes that Bush/Cheney are moving right along on their plans for attacking Iran in a series of In/Out bombing forays.
Daniel,
Thank you for your comments. I think that you're a well-intentioned voter stuck in a bad system, not a plant for the DNC.
I can understand the appeal of voting for the lesser evil in 2008. My concern is that lesser evil voting gives us worse and worse choices in the long run.
If we adopted instant runoff voting and proportional representation, we could eliminate this problem and all feel free to vote for our hopes rather than our fears.
VAGreen,
Thanks. And you're right about me. I am indeed a well-intentioned voter, and indeed we are stuck in a system that offers mostly lesser-of-evil choices.
Obama talks much about voting our hopes, and if he could actually get elected, I think he would talk more about them not only to us Americans but to the world.
'Twould be a nice thing to hear, even if only marginally likely.
As long as we accept the false choice of corporate-approved candidates and parties, we'll get tweedle dee tweedle dum. Is spineless better than evil? In an abstract sense, yes, but in a practical sense, they work together and have a symbiotic relationship. They both are illustrative of the fact that corporate conglomerates are the true ruling powers. The spineless/evil pols dance around as though they were principled individuals, when in reality they are little more than sock puppets representing the media-military-industrial-complex.
The whole system must be overturned. A revolution will come. That, or let us all lie down in darkness and die like a nation of spineless cogs. Let us strive to make it a nonviolent one. This corrupt and rotten political system has gone way too far into evil to be susceptible to being reformed adequately.