Even CNN's promotion of the reconstructive surgery for Youssif is disgusting. While he certainly needs the surgery, CNN is motivated not out of compassion but out of a sense of duty to the capitalist establishment, promoting high-tech and/or high-dollar professional services, which if you notice, most mainstream US media does systematically. The beast capital is exploiting both Youssif's misfortune, and the public's sense of compassion in this regard.

Be careful trying to drag Moveon into the peace movement. You may find yourself instead bitten and dragged under the evil wing of the triangulating DLC. The answer is socialism, not triangulation.

Cindy is right and the pre Magna Carta Cro Magnons are wrong. This congress is a collection of cowardly murderers, and need to be dealt with as such. They must pay for raping the progress we have all spent our lives working towards.
Peace to you, Cindy. Citizens arrest on you congress assholes, and I AM serious.

Great article Cindy. Why don't we ever see your articles in the NYTimes or Washington Post?

Everybody, GET A GRIP.

This resolution is MEANINGLESS.

It doesn't hurt MoveOn.

It doesn't prolong the war.

It helps to keep the "General Betray Us" taunt in circulation.

Many of the same Senators who voted Yes on this silly resolution also voted Yes on Feingold-Reid to cut off funds for the war, and on the Webb motion to relieve tours. Those are the votes that count. Why the ten-minutes hate toward Dems who voted to condemn an ad?

Only military idiots who want to be offended at the slur on Petraeus and avoid the issue of the war itself care about this stupid resolution.

And apparently some purists on the left as well.

Cindy,

Well-stated. I agree with ezeflyer: why do we not see your articles in the MSM? Would it be fair to say that MSM journalists also are "ass-kissing little chicken-shits" because they are so deep in the pockets of the Bush Administration and Congress? I think so. You certainly have my support. Nancy Pelosi needs to go, NOW!

Also, for those interested in supporting Cindy's bid to run for Congress, please check out our self-organizing group at http://www.sheehanforcongress.us

nader2000,

While you are correct to note that the resolution in question has no legal power, the vote is important for what it reveals about the feckless Democrats who felt the need to decry someone's free expression: they're playing politics instead of meeting their responsibilities.

jj

This the comment that most caught my interest, "Anyone who is concerned with the rapid slide to fascism".
Here is a link to very good article on that very subject.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18426.htm

Nader 2000, maybe you're the one who needs to get a grip. The "meaningless" resolution displays Congress' disregard for the first amendment, its disregard of American public opinion which is much closer to Cindy's position than it is Bush's, and its disregard of the factual nature of the ad which points out the betrayal of our troops by Petraeus as Cindy points out; what more do you need? And so what if some of anti-MoveOn gang then voted in favor of cutting off funds or in favor of tour-relief? Those votes are mere stunts designed to make it look like they're doing something. If they wanted to cut off war funds they could have done it long ago; they want this war to keep on going because it's good for the companies they represent (they sure as hell don't represent the American people) and they have to posture against the war from time to time to hoodwink the public. This "meaningless" resolution is yet another outrage committed by our criminal congress and to dismiss it as meaningless is to cave in to the war-monger's way of thinking. Cindy is right in fighting these bastards every step of the way, not letting them get away with any of their crap. And just where does the line lie between meaningless and meaningful? The right is chipping away at all of our freedoms, and this is a great example of their chipping. Meaningless indeed.

Indeed, manipulation of public sentiment--as epitomized by the president's press conference comments about MoveOn.org and the Democratic Party--lies at the very heart of the White House's entire Iraq war enterprise. For those interested in a psychological analysis of this warmongering, I have recently completed a 10-minute online video entitled "Resisting the Drums of War." It examines how the Bush administration's messaging has targeted five core concerns that often govern our lives--concerns about vulnerability, injustice, distrust, superiority, and helplessness. Looking ahead, the continuing occupation of Iraq--or an attack on Iran--will likely be sold to us in much the same way. The video examines these warmongering appeals and how to counter them. It's available for viewing HERE.

Cindy's a powerful engine for truth and good. Keep it up.

I too had been critical of MoveOn pretty early on for their continued support of the "Dems", but like Cindy must praise them for once.

But Betray-Us is too mild a name. This general is a General War Criminal (for illegally invading and occupying a sovereign country and causing the death of so many innocent Iraqis)

it is only meaningless to someone who thinks a college student asking a question of his royal pompousidity without the attendant humble deferrence to ruling aristocrisy, got the torture he deserved.
It matters to me that we can exercize our fundamental rights without the senate voicing their official disdain on record.

Sent a donation to Moveon.org last night. My very first, so a pox on all those cowards who voted for the resolution. Reminds me of all those who voted to give Bush the authority to invade in the first place. Bastards.

This resolution had nothing at all to do with outrage at MoveOn.org. It was simply an attempt by the GOP to force Democratic politicians into the Republican camp, thereby separating them from their own voters. The Republicans succeeded, and they will continue to succeed at this game until Democratic voters start booting out phony Democrats like Jim Webb, Max Baucus, Mary Landrieu, etc.

It's actually time all Americans woke up and realized that the real problem with this country is THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, not Bush and the GOP. Republicans have always been a bunch of warmongering old businessmen, but these people have always been kept in check by Democrats, who served as the counterweight to that ideology. Now there is no counterweight - and just like a scale out of balance - the country is tilting to the right. Face it, unless we take on the Democrats - and yes I mean THE DEMOCRATS - it won't be long before the U.S. descends into real fascism, and I'm not talking moneygrubbing corporations here, but the kind of insanity that leads to world wars and concentration camps.

"It doesn't hurt MoveOn. It doesn't prolong the war. It helps to keep the "General Betray Us" taunt in circulation."

Bullies don't respond to petitions, pleas, facts, or complaints.

They do respond, angrily, to taunts -- and so they have to be baited by taunts. Remember the gasps when Stephen Colbert dared to mock Bush at the Lapdog Press affair in 2005.

The gasps of indignation and the cluck-clucking over impropriety reveal the violent frauds in a way that mere recitation of arguments never does. They sit at ease before a spectacle of blood, and get in a snit when someone befouls their clean DC lawns.

"Many of the same Senators who voted Yes on this silly resolution also voted Yes on Feingold-Reid to cut off funds for the war, and on the Webb motion to relieve tours. Those are the votes that count. Why the ten-minutes hate toward Dems who voted to condemn an ad?"

There were only five who voted for both Feingold-Reid and the anti-Moveon resolution.

"And apparently some purists on the left as well."

I'm really tired of the "purity" strawman. It's not about "purity". It's about a pattern of behavior by Congressional Democrats. Every Republican except for Chuck Hagel, Arlen Specter, and Joe Lieberman voted against Barbara Boxer's resolution that would have denounced Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. The Democrats all go their own way and they turn around and expect unity from progressives.

While the Move On ad was something of a tactical blunder, its moral message was clear. Petraeus, by all accounts, is an intelligent and able person (he comes off that way in the book "Fiasco"). He knows that the occupation of Iraq is a catastrophe and admitted as much by telling congress that he didn't know if it made the U.S. safer. That's as close to getting someone like him to saying the whole thing is horse shit as we'll ever get. But the man wants the American political brass ring and a few more tens of thousands dead isn't going to deter him from grasping for it.

Rapid slide to Fascism? Haven't we already arrived, or is only for us to wait for Bush to declare martial law, arrest Cindy and make an example of her and any who support her?

Bush went to war with no intelligent reasoning, he Cheney and Rumsfeld had no idea of what they were getting into. The prize of controlling the oil and taking most of the profits was their primary goal, greed overcame any reasoning. Persons defecient in judgment, hasten to undertake that for which winged celestials hesitate to assume responsibility.

The Senate vote is a typical reaction by Reactionaries, whereby they announced themselves as such. It's now very clear who is on which side, just who is a member of the Death Party.

Here's a thought, how about a push to have the money we're paying to private contractors for protection and actually hire Iraqs to do the protecting. They'd have something better to do than be pissed off and shooting AT AMERICANS, they'd make a hell of alot more money than they're making now, which shouldn't piss them off. I'm going to contact my reps about this and get their view of why this would or would not work. With the people in-charge of our government, the first thought will be "what about the kickbacks".

I agree with Nader2000 here.

Moveon's ad was a publicity stunt designed to shock and anger the warmongering right. In that regard it was a success.

The non-binding Senate condemnation was also a publicity stunt aimed at embarrassing Democrats by forcing them into a Hobson's Choice of not condemning the ad (and giving right-wing bloviators and their MSM enablers another opportunity to regurgitate the "THEY HATE PETRAEUS SO THEY HATE THE TROOPS AND WANT AL-QAEDA TO WIN" meme) or condemning the ad and looking cowardly and hypocritical in the process. It, too, was a success. The Senators who chose the latter were indeed cowardly and vacillating.

That said, let's move on (no pun intended). Condemn the condemnation and get back to issues that matter. There are hundreds of reasons to be angry at the Democratic Congress, to funnel that anger into activism and keep trying to fight the war machine in every way possible. This stupid little resolution pales in comparison to most of them.

The warmongers want something, ANYTHING, to distract the public's attention from the disaster in Iraq, from Blackwater, from warrantless wiretapping, from the death of habeas corpus, from the U.S. Attorney firings and every other of the half a hundred criminal acts that infest this administration. Don't give them the opportunity.

Why does this mess remind me of the whole Schivo fiasco?

And how many more people died in Iraq while the Senate was wasting time on this nonsense?

The Congressional Dimms are "eating their own" by even participating in these kinds of antics.

P.S. Welcome back KEM and PJD! How was the DC protest?

Was the "taunt" a success? A long line of analysis from the ministry of information will author most of Chimp's statements, directing his popular podium slump and cowboy vernacular. So, when the executive war criminal says "disgusting", a big fan base is usually in agreement.

Boo Hoo...Whaaaaa wineeey Whaaa!
Why don't you attack Britenny and OJ? ...
But let General Betrayus alone! ... Whaaaaa Whaaaa!

He is just a General... whaaa whaaa Boo Hoo ....... Whhaaa... leave General Betrayus alone!!!
Whhaaaaaaa...Wineeeey
Please,
Senator Leiberman

Cindy Sheehan Is Right And Has Been Right !

She deserved 100% support from the Democratic Party instead they avoided her issues and helped foment "The Lie".

The U.S. Senate has abrogated its Constitutional Responsibilities for over fifty years to Conservative and Neo-Conservative Policy Groups in the public and private domains and to leaders like Henry Kissinger.

Those people have led us into the invasions of Viet Nam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Those people have advocated Coup d´etats in Chile, Argentina, El Salvador, Guatemala,Nicaragua, Panama, and Indonesia....and, those actions have resulted in the deaths of well over 8 million human beings.

The dollar has devalued 54% since 2001. Yes 54% !!! In 2001 $.89 American would get 1 Euro....Today September 21, 2007, $1.40 gets 1 Euro. That is a difference of $.51 and divide that by 89........

The U.S. Senate is made up of 100% Capitalist Conservatives....They have made their millions. They could care less about the people of the United States. They could care less about the Constitution of the United States. They, like Cheney and Co., have polarized the American people and rendered them useless and apathetic.

Good luck with demonstrations, but "Evil" has won and has total control.

I was very surprised when combat veterans, regardless of their personal politics, did not denounce the behavior & antics of republican convention attendees when they started sporting those purple band-aids, in effect not only mocking Kerry's service to the country, but the fact that he was wounded, while doing so. Not to mention Coulter's comments regarding Max Cleeland. Where was Bush's outrage back then? Or could someone explain the difference? Personally, I'll never forget that image from their convention.

What a reaction we got from the Republicans with a small ad from the Flying Toaster Screensaver folks. I sure got my money's worth with a small donation to MoveOn!

Move on is just another status quo entity built to elect Hillary and promote DLC values ad nauseua. They started out right, but then got a little too cozy rubbing elbows with the powers that be to offer legitimate critiques. I seen their latest add as an attempt to bring back into the fold people like me who intend to vote independent or GREEN!

Cindy is right; we need to support people or organizations when they do the right thing in opposing the Iraq war, even though we may disagree with them on other issues. As the Senate votes revealed, the problem is not really a partisan one: witness the votes of California's Democratic Senators on the resolution to condemn MoveOn (Feinstein, yea; Boxer, nay). Whatever their party affiliation, Senators have no business utilizing their Article I legislative powers as a platform for telling Americans what they may or may not say -- and that applies especially to criticism of patently incompetent (this man was in charge of the failed effort to train an effective Iraqi security force, and was in charge when 200,000 weapons were handed out to now-unknown recipients) and servile (this man was selected by the President only after several senior Generals honestly told the President his "surge" would not work) Generals such as the one MoveOn chose to criticize. As a Korean War veteran, I have certainly paid any dues which might be required to call a military officer a fool when he acts like a fool. But nobody -- veteran or not, citizen or not -- is required to pay any dues in order to qualify as a "person" whose speech is protected by the First Amendment to our Constitution. Any Senator (Republican or Democrat) who does not accept that proposition is violating his/her oath of office and should resign immediately.

This morning, in a Nestcape poll taken, 63% of respondents agreed with the Senate on the resolutions. It seems like it is treasonous to question the motives and integrity of General Betray-Us. Today, it is a "harmless" resolution. But, tomorrow it might be turn into law to curtail freedom of speech and dissention.

What is wrong with us? First, we sit quietly, like good citizens when a college student is taken down by 3-4 rent-a-cops and is electricuted because he dared ask the Senator the wrong question. An analogy I have heard to describe this incident is from the move the Body Snatchers. The audience were pod people; they had been transformed. The student blew his cover by getting emotional and was taken down.

Now you have the majority of Americans agreeing with the Senate's resolution. Did we not learn anything about the track records of our generals in Vietnam? Each and every one of them lied to us.

Simple fact: The General Betray-Us is an employee of Mr. Bush.

We all know what has happened to the past generals that have disagreed with Bush's illegal activities; they were fired. What makes Americans believe that he will go against Bush?

Richard Young...most eloquent. Amen

Dichterfreund..."They sit at ease before a spectacle of blood..." is about as precise a discription of Congress as we are going to hear. Thanks

Cindy Sheehan is eloquent as usual and uses her eloquence to speak the truth. Imagine the effect on American politics if we would read the day after the 2008 election "Speaker of the House loses Safe seat to Political novice"

Cindy Sheehan for Congress!

Cindy Sheehan is a brave woman who steadfastly decried the injustice of the war in Iraq and is now being given the persona non grata treatment by the warmongers in the press and in the government.

The country needs her courage in Congress.

Thanks, Cindy. I'll vote for 'ya!

It must be fun to be Mitch McConnell. He's effectively the Senate Majority Leader. He can stop just about anything with 41 Republicans (and blame the Democrats!) and he can count on enough Democratic support to make the Bush agenda look bipartisan.

I agree with Cindy that the MoveOn "betray-us" ad deserves credit and I also agree with rtdrury's advise for caution. There are two considerations for this:

(a) MoveOn has been performing under the guise of the "progressive" wing of the Democratic Party in an effort to keep the progressive-left forces within the fold of the "two" party electoral trap.

(b) The "betray-us" ad appeared when things were not going well for MoveOn and their role as instruments of the Democratic party became increasingly apparent and real progresive members started pulling out.

Did they do the Ad to reverse their losses
through a sort of "shock" strategy? Or,cincerely they realized the folly of pursuing progressive goals by acting on behalf of a reactionary capitalist party like the Democratic? I want to hope that the latter is the case and that true progressive minds in the leadership of MoveOn prevailed.

I'm sure there's a simple answer to this question.

How was it, under the rules of the Senate that applied when the GOP ran things, that it was impossible to force a debate or floor vote on anything even mildly critical of George Bush, and yet Harry Reid let this cheap resolution stunt take up the Senate's time and attention even for a moment now that the Democrats are the majority in charge?

Bill from Saginaw

It's absolutely nauseating that there are still Democrats, after all the lies and crimes and carnage that have come down, who are still afraid of being labelled "unpatriotic" and "against the troops." God almighty, support the troops by bringing them home!

Our military leaders deserve to be attacked aboout their lies, they have BETRAYED us. And president Bush is nothing but a criminal himself, so for him to use the military as a shield,(a Repug constant),by pretending that he, and they, are honorable is totally repugnant. The Republicans are the far more dangerous terrorists to the world than all the Muslims put together.

The Bush team routinely intiminates those who disagree or question their policies by branding them unpatriotic or worse. Their assaults against those who question the logic of continuing the course in Iraqis a continuation of that prctice. Now that the opposition has fired back, they cry foul.

> No assult from the liberal wing or press can match the unprecedented character assassinations against Senator Max Cleland, a decorated triple amputee Viet Vet with an honorable senate record. These assaults were in response to Sen Cleland's sponsorship of an investigation into the causes of 9/11, which was opposed by Bush. Among other things, they displayed his picture with Bin Laden and falsely demeaned his war record, even blaming him for stepping on the mine. With these crude tactics they succeeded in unseating Sen Cleland by one who shunned military service, & was compatible to Bush's secretive policies.
>
> Despite its degree of deception & importance, a critique of that abuse was avoided by the mainstream media. No republican has even expressed remorse for it.> The most alarming aspect of these horrific intimination tactics is not their methodology--but their successes.
>
> Blame falls on apathetic & gullible voters who succumb to such rhetoric; and our legislators for allowing themselves to be intimidated into permitting this reckess zealot to impose such damage to our nation and the world.

The real question is Cindy Sheehan ever on the wrong side of the issues...not to my knowledge. Cindy 4 Congress!

I don't answer my phone anymore unless I know who is calling because every time I pick up, some candedate wants money and I really have not made up my mind. Except maybe for Hillary because she did not vote to condemn the add...I get emails galore and after what has happened to Move On, I decided I would support them with all that I can spare so they can get this slimy republican administration to fall to their knees and ask for mercy, which I will never give them. Move on gets the attention needed to make people aware of what is going on. It is very sad that such a decoreated general stoops so low as to "kiss the president's ass", (does not deserve a capital P), and ruin his his legacy of his good service to this country, but he dug his own grave on this, no sympathy from me.

Donate to Move on, let them do the talking for us because the media will not and it is time that we be heard...!!!!!

Since when do the Republicans have a problem with name-calling or any other playground tactic to get their way? The term "Slick-Willie" fair and balanced, "Betray-US" totally uncalled for; now repeat it until everyone believes it.

Just received this info from MoveOn.Org:

Dear MoveOn member,

Yesterday, an amazing thing happened. After the Senate's shameful vote, and after President Bush called MoveOn "disgusting,"1 our email started to fill up with messages like this one:

I'm currently in Iraq. I do not agree with this war, and if I did support this war, it would not matter. You have the RIGHT to speak the truth. We KNOW that you support us. Thank you for speaking out for being our voice. We do not have a voice. We are overshooted by those who say that we soldiers do not support organizations like MoveOn. WE DO.

YOU ARE OUR voice.

And then came the donations. By midnight, over 12,000 people had donated $500,000—more than we've raised any day this year—for our new ad calling out the Republicans who blocked adequate rest for troops headed back to Iraq.

The message from MoveOn members was loud and clear: Don't back down. Take the fight back to the issues that matter.

So today we're shooting for a very ambitious goal: Reach $1 million so we can dramatically expand the campaign we launched yesterday going after politicians who support this awful war.

All day, messages from vets and military family members kept pouring into our email, many of them aimed at the Senate:

I have given a son to this country. My brother, my father, my uncle have all served honorably and bravely. I am a loyal American. I am outraged and sick to death of the tactics this administration uses to try to silence dissent to a war that is unjust, built and maintained on lies, political power, and greed. I was content to let others fight more loudly, but no more.
–Sharyn W., NC

I am a prior soldier who served in Iraq for 13 months, and am now an expecting mom with a husband who is deployed in Baghdad. I don't think I can ever forgive the Bush administration for the lies that tricked America into this war and hurt my family so badly. I am ashamed of those American politicians who would condemn an organization for practicing the Freedom of Speech that so many soldiers have died for.
–Danielle B., OH

As a US Navy veteran and an Iraq war veteran of over a year I want to ask, What has happened to us? What has happened to our voice? Where is this country going with stopping free speech and free press? ... Every time I think of the long nights I had in Anbar remembering what I was fighting for, well here it is....
–Ahmad H., LA

These folks have made sacrifices many of us can't imagine. Their charge to us was clear: keep speaking the truth about how President Bush and the Republicans have betrayed our trust.

So we're going to expand our ad campaign—keep it on the air longer and run it against other politicians who helped block adequate rest time for our troops.

And still the messages kept coming ...

I've had three nephews serve since 2002, one of whom was killed in Anbar Province. I have a fourth nephew at Quantico training. I want this war over before he is deployed and before any more of our soldiers are sacrificed.
–Michele R., NE

Three members of my family are military. Two Marines have served in Iraq and an Army Lt. is deploying in November. If we had all spoken out when the administration used General Powell perhaps we would not be in this mess.
–Carol B., PA
As a Marine I served for many reasons but one of them was to allow people the freedom of speech, whether I agreed with it or not. Wearing a uniform does not mean someone isn't a shill, is spewing propaganda, and downright lies. MoveOn has every right to buy an ad and say what they want about a public figure. This administration has lied to us, deceived us, misled us and when posed with a challenge this is how they respond?
–Keith G., VA

The Senate won't pass a policy to end the war or even to make sure our troops in the field have enough rest time between deployments, but they hold votes to crack down on millions of Americans who are upset about the war

Do you know what you get when the Government is not permitted to critisize the Military?

Pakistan today
Germany 1940
Italy 1939
Spain 1930-1970
Argentina 1960's
Etc
Etc
Etc

Hell, even in Soviet Russia the government could critise the military.

Resolved, That it is the sense of the Senate--
(1) to reaffirm its support for all the men and women of the United States Armed Forces, including General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force--Iraq;
(2) to strongly condemn any effort to attack the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all the members of the United States Armed Forces; and
(3) to specifically repudiate the unwarranted personal attack on General Petraeus by the liberal activist group Moveon.org. ( but not Petraeus's Superior, who routinly calls him a "Little ass-licking chickenshit"
(4) to clearly state that the US Congress love our Mommies and their delicious Apple Pie
(5) Zeig Heil Bushie!

Cindy, you're my kind of purist! ♥

the great embarrassment of the antiwar movement is its inability to hook up with each other.

it is truly embarrassing. its devastating.

the other side is united and that makes them stronger.

besides, if we can't work with each other, - how can we expect the public to buy into our counter theory of, not just the war, but much deeper and philosophical questions about some very fundamental life poses.

there is a deep sickness in the united states.

this country has been - without parallel in the modern age - running roughshod over one country after another for 60 years, since the end of the second world war.

you have killed a lot of people and destroyed many countries.

why?
for what?

while there are a lot of people in your country who are against all this endless killing, and that is good, there are many many more who like it.

(in one of today's other articles, a writer notes; there are a lot of posts on the msnbc boards in favor of blackwater. people there, he says, are sorry that blackwater is not running the entire war because they feel blackwater would make a better job of it.)

the murder rhetoric is always about freedom and democracy, the reality is destruction and inhumane massacre for money.

mussolini, who coined the term fascist, was talking about a state where the corporations owned and ran everything.

the fascist states of america.

allowing the private armies to grow and prosper, ironically on the public tab, is one of the truly dangerous trends in the us today.

only a very sick country would allow this to happen.

working through the iraq issue is the one most at hand, obviously, but the greater issue is what to do with this military monster you have created. especially as it privatizes.

blackwater are the boys who will be herding you into the fema concentration camps.

watch it.

so, its good to see someone with cindy's influence offer the olive branch, but it is more than embarrassing that it needs to be offered at all.

if we can't make community then forget it.

I am so angry at this dust-up over the MOVEON ad I could throw the remote right through the tv.

Let's talk betrayal of the troops. Not enough troops to do the job they were sent to do...even though I personally object to their objectives, the least our troops should expect from our gov't when sent to do a job is enough of them and with adequate materials to do it...sending the same persons into harms way unendingly...and then cutting benefits, refusing to care adequately for their wounds and battle related illnesses...is this not betrayal worthy of condemnation?

It is like when the nattering nabobs rail on about how the 'Nam vets were spit on and abandoned...who exactly abandoned them?
It wasn't the Left that refused to acknowledge the illnesses resulting from Agent Orange; it wasn't the Left who abandoned thousands of vets to the streets or the woods and mountains when their war experiences unhinged their psyches and left them unable to live in society and then called their PTSD "a personal / personality / drug problem", it wasn't the Left who failed them while using their patriotism to subvert the very freedoms they fought for with endless cries of "no more Viet Nams" to justify entering into, and escalating, and extending every war since.

More recently, the "Swift Boating" of Kerry and the slander of Max Cleland are certainly far more egregious attacks on Military personages. All moveon said about the good general was that, in his testimony, he contradicted the evidence of every other source, and instead reported that the war and the surge were going swimmingly. And they called this representation "betrayal".

As should every soldier in Iraq.

not all democrats are evil. i vote green often, but am regestered as a democrat so i can participate in the elections. ya there is a way out of the 2 party trap, its called proportional voting and drop ballot voting. but how do we get from here to there? we have to work with what we have, so sure vote green if there are no good democratic candidates, but register democrat so you can vote in the primarys and get representatives on the democratic ticket (which is more likley to win) that will implement democratic policies.
move on needs to poll thier membership and pick a candidate to support in the primarys. hopefully it will be Dennis Kucinich. they are wasting their time fighting republicans. i think they may pick a candidate to support soon, they sent out an email asking if they should. and btw, just because clinton didn't condem moveon doesn't mean she is the candidate to vote for. sure she will stand up on a unbinding resolution, or a vote that is destined to loose. but she sat by when we got into this mess in the first place. Dennis Kucinich has been aginst the war right from the start, he has proven his integrity.