More Than 150 Arrested at Iraq Protest
WASHINGTON -- Thousands of protesters marched Saturday from the White House to the Capitol to demand an end to the Iraq war, leading to the arrests of at least 150 people.
Many of the protesters were arrested without a struggle after they jumped over a barricade near the base of the Capitol. But some grew angry as police attempted to push them back using large black shields and a chemical spray. Protesters responded by throwing signs and chanting: "Shame on you."
Before arriving at the Capitol lawn, the demonstrators marched on Pennsylvania Avenue holding banners and signs and saying, "What do we want? Troops out. When do we want it? Now."
Counterprotesters lined the sidewalks behind metal barricades. There were some heated shouting matches between the two sides.
At the Capitol lawn, some protesters lay down with signs on top of their bodies to represent soldiers killed in Iraq.
The protesters gathered earlier Saturday near the White House in Lafayette Park with signs saying "End the war now" and calling for President Bush's impeachment. The rally was organized by the ANSWER Coalition and other groups.
Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan told the crowd is was time to be assertive.
"It's time to lay our bodies on the line and say we've had enough," she said. "It's time to shut this city down."
Army veteran Justin Cliburn, 25, of Lawton, Okla., was among a contingent of Iraq veterans in attendance.
"We're occupying a people who do not want us there," Cliburn said of Iraq. "We're here to show that it isn't just a bunch of old hippies from the 60s who are against this war."
About 13 blocks away, nearly 1,000 counterprotesters gathered near the Washington Monument, frequently erupting in chants of "U-S-A" and waving American flags.
Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson, speaking from a stage to crowds clad in camouflage, American flag bandanas and Harley Davidson jackets, said he wanted to send three messages.
"Congress, quit playing games with our troops. Terrorists, we will find you and kill you," he said. "And to our troops, we're here for you, and we support you."
Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., made a surprise visit to the counterprotest, which was organized by Gathering of Eagles, a nationwide nonpartisan organization founded this year by Vietnam war veterans.
"We're a people of faith, courage and fidelity," said Hunter, a 2008 presidential candidate. "It's for this generation that we will win this war on terror."
Associated Press writer Christine Simmons contributed to this report.
© 2007 The Associated Press
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Show All14)you can use the small claims courts to sue the local news editors print and television, for failing to inform, causing damage to the community and the country.
15)you can stage local protests at the media concerns doors.
16)you can demand that analog television be handed wholly over to citizen access communications.
17)you can make copies of the constitution and the declaration for 1.00 per set and hand them out to everyone, saying " this is something every american should have in their homes despite the fact it is now leftist subversive material, and every person old enough to read should carve it into their hearts." Take it to judges, to police, to editors and reporters, take it to the mayor and the city council, to the school boards, to the sheriff and all county officials, carry it wide and far and near and close, hand it out at the local high school, at games, at colleges and make sure to HIGHLIGHT Article 6 clause 2! Had the electorate been awake and responsive and comprehended Article 6 THIS WAR COULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.
(THE security council voted 11-4 against the invasion and that friends is where GWB was supposed to STOP. There never was an imminent threat to this country and they knew it. We knew it. He knew it.)
18)get out your phone books and make of list of every schoolmate and coworker you can remember and call them all and ask them to do the same, it is the consciousness of the times we have to BE, WE ARE THE MEDIA NOW.REACH ONE! EACH ONE! TEACH ONE!EVERYDAY!
19)monitor your local 5013c's(churches) and make very certain they aren't maligning the fundamentals of this country from their pulpits. If they do take precise notes or tape them and bring a lawsuit against them for it in small claims and a complaint directed to them to remove their tax free status.
20)generate local and widespread networks of people to make calls in wider and wider circles directed at specific issues.
21) STOP THE MOVE TO PRIVATISATION WHEREVER YOU CAN AND GENERATE AWARENESS OF THIS WRONG AGENDA WITH WHOEVER AND WHEREVER YOU CAN. Privatisation has failed miserably the facts cannot be twisted, the public concern is NOT SERVED by this agenda in any way shape or form.
22)support locally owned businesses ONLY. Bring awareness to local community the relevance of doing so however you can, DEMAND your local markets and profits stay right at HOME.
23) RAVE at the dying of the Light of REASON!
for your consideration for ACTION, to be continued if anyone wants to hear it)
chi
When there is a large march or protest on Saturday, only on Sunday will you find any coverage. By Monday it's not mentioned at all. Regarding this action, on Sunday morning CNN gave it about 20 seconds coverage - consisting of 10 seconds footage of people being arrested at the barricade, and 10 seconds footage of the Gathering of Eagles counter-remarks. No video showing the march itself.
This was followed by a 3-minute segment on the plight of sports memorabilia retailers now that OJ is in trouble again.
Maybe we should try to get OJ or Britney for the next march...
It is Monday A.M. September 17, 2007 and there appears to be a news blackout on the protest marches in Washington D.C.. I have accessed CNN, NBC, and CBS news--NOTHING! Democracy Now is the only program to inform us and to show the thousands of people gathered.
I trust that something can be done about this really terrible breach of confidence in the citizens' right to know.
While I can't really get away with refusing to pay taxes, I can make sure I don't give the bastards more. I declined to accept a raise this year. It's good practice to live on less. We will all be scrounging soon.
I liked this quote from Cryptogon.com: "Voluntary simplicity, or living well on very little money, kicks evil people in the nuts and gouges out their eyes." I repeat this to myself each time I decide I can do without something.
Super! Pacplyer and those 3 that followed!
We MUST REMEMBER in these times - IT IS "THE POWER OF THE PURSE"!
It's fairly easy...just begin trying to change spending habits can be one of the first things - like you do when you make a new household budget, etc.
In keeping with the #1 idea re: boycott Fortune 500 (you can do some research - NOT all their money is tied up in the USA!!!) I'd like to add.....just try to "stop buying anything imported"(little stuff like food and clothing, etc., enough still made in the US to support what we need and like)!!!! No need to get too complicated at first.....just "start" doing as much as you can, with following the above ideas of Pacplyer and the others and go on from there! We'll LEARN A LOT!!!! And it will get easier to do!
If the newly elected democrats/or old republicans won't do the will of the people who voted for them.....maybe the "overseas governments" that they "do business with" will put a squeeze on them - when the American people quit supporting the foreign governments and businesses with OUR hard earned money. You can't run a business without someone buying your services or products! (And you don't see VULTURES standing patiently in line and politely waiting their turn for a bit of the carcass, do you?! ) Let's PUT the pressure back on the politicians - everywhere - and make THEM "fight it out" among themselves!!!
IT"S ALWAYS ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MONEY IS POWER!!!!!!! HERE, THERE AND EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!
IT'S OUR MONEY - WE HAVE POWER OVER IT!!!
Even Red State America is turning on the Iraq war. For news and photos of the "die-in" sponsored by the University of Nebraska chapter of Nebraskans for Peace before the nationally televised USC-UNL football game on Saturday night, go to:
http://freedomroadproject.blogspot.com
stop shopping
12) listen or watch "Democracy Now!
13) march on May Day and organised, organised, and organised!!
9.) Get business cards made with the name and phone numbers of your 2 Senators and 1 Congressperson and pass them out to everyone (most people never heard of them)so they can call to bring the troops home when they are stuck in traffic.
10.) Support local farmers markets, the reasons are numerous.
11.) Regularly harrass republican offices with phone calls. (I tried all 3 of john boenhers phone numbers and all 3 rang off the hook.)
I personally will vote for a 'bright' horse ticket like Kucinich/Edwards.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
We are attacking the wrong target. Even if we legally impeach Bush/Cheney, the NeoCon-Republicrat-Fortune-500 will just prop up another puppet to enslave us economically.
We must attack the CEO's who hijacked the government and the voting system. Hit em where it hurts.
1. Boycott everything produced by the Fortune-500.
2. Cancel your dish, direct tv, magazine, newspaper and cable accounts (you'll just have to do without fox and cnn!)
3. Default on your mortgage, for six months (before foreclosure you can re-negotiate) and close your credit card accounts.
3b. Fall six months behind in all obligations and pump the cash to poor relatives (this is what cheney is doing to us.)
4. Don't go anywhere in a car on days off. Stay home and blog on the net.
5. Refuse to work overtime. If you've got Blue Flu, call in sick. Join a Union, even if you hate em.
6. Start wearing protest T-shirts everywhere you go, not just at the protest.
7. Get your family on board and read common dreams esp: the polar meltdown story.
8. Push at the grass roots level for a dark horse ticket to show up (Gore/Nader?)
Please fill in numbers 9-100 for me.
Thanks my Good patriot Countrymen.
pacplyer
Letters, petitions, opinion surveys/polls, actual voting, heck even getting on our knees pleading with politicians to end this war, and now protests en masse mean absolutely nothing to the politicians, and mean absolutely nothing altogether now that the corperate media has decided they will no longer cover demonstrations, and will even activly censor it with the arm of the police state.
So if you still believe we live in a representative democacy, or think these fools serve the people, i have a few quotes for you.
"Our job is to give people not what they want,
but what we decide they ought to have."
--Richard Salent, former President of CBS News--
"News is what someone wants to suppress.
Everything else is advertising."
--Former NBC news prez Rubin Frank--
While it is impossible for the media to tell the population what to think, they do tell the public what to think about.
--Media pundit Ben Bagdikian--
"Making people ignorant has become an art, a science. Journalism is the science of not informing people"
--Italian Nobel prize-winning satirist Dario Fo--
"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar weekly salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities, and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
John Swinton, the former Chief of Staff for the New York Times toast before the New York Press Club.
Someone else, the elites, decided for you what issues will distract you, what subject matters will divide us, and what language we will use to argue against one another.
Keeps us busy, disorganized, distracted, demoralized, timid, paranoid, but most importantly perpetuates the illusions of voice, free thought, free expression, free speech, independent press etc. The best way to disinform people is to make them believe that they are informed- that they're getting reliable and or a wide variety information, viewpoints etc. Arrogance and ignorance thus follow.
It's pathetic how easily we're controlled and manipulated.
Do not expect China to intervene until Iran and other countries beg for help. The USA will have exhausted itself on lessor wars then China will wreck the dollar and raise less anger when they show up as white knights.
The Chinese will be patient and fight on someone else's soil if possible.
Clearly, many nations will pay out rope to Bu$h the inferior so that he can hang himself with Shotgun Dick's able assistance.
I was there also. I came from the capital to the white house (before the march East began) and saw all the counter-demonstrators. There were about 1000. There were about 200,000 demonstrators, by my estimation. So yes, 200 to one.
I ran into some real middle American people, from Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, flown here for the march and many of whom had children deployed to Iraq. Then I come home, and the only thing the local press says is "it would be much more powerful if we heard from middle America" (instead). It reminds me of the movie I saw recently where the protagonist keeps pleading with God to "Show me a Sign" (of your presence). God then throws all these stop signs, and other road signs, in front of him and the guy keeps making his entreaty to God as he avoids notice of the signs. The critics wouldn't know middle America if they tripped over it.
correction: "If you have no knowledge of the
history of; etc."
"I was at that freakin' protest. There was one block of anti-demonstrator nutjobs, one- to two-people deep. I counted 172. So where does the 1,000 come from? There were also 4-5 similarly unhinged hollerups at a couple other corners. OK, so now we're up to, say 182. Why does that constitute news-worthiness? Balance? That's like me claiming to the AP that the earth is flat, and they put out a headline saying "Earth Round of Flat? Opinions Differ"
Mike Molloy once worked at CNN & was told by friends a couple years ago that it had become commonly accepted that CIA personnel ensconced in newsrooms would season stories to be more palatable to the regime. Pretty much the same methods by which the effectiveness of the escalation or the number of the unemployed are managed.
"If we go to the streets to protest
peacefully, regardless of our numbers,
we will be ignored, imprisoned or killed."
The stench of deaftism is overwhelming!
That is the worst kind, of all the kinds
of cowardice scapegoating there is against
effective action.
In the end, we are all dead no matter what
we choose to do.
I choose a life of effective action and
unavoidable death, over a life of flacid impotence.
Non-violent protest does not equal ineffective
action.
So much can be accomplised with non-violent
action. Unfortunately, caged gatherings of endless
speeches, die-in's, marches with permits, and
politely appealing to the Government and it's
media are not those actions.
Furthermore, non-violence is a TACTIC that can
be applied to ACTION; non-violence is not a
STRATEGY.
If you have knowledge of the history of
effective protest, mass action and social
action then you are truly lost.
Also, I do not have the time or patience to
explain it, or implicate myself, here.
I do not, and will not, apologize for being
sarcastic, profane and fed up with the
"business as usual" of the anti-war movement
more than halfway through year five of Iraq
War II.
I am a simple soldier.
My point, my purpose, for bothering with
this post is because I am truly sickend
by what has occured in our democracy; already
extremely dysfunctional, hypocritical, perverted
and undemocratic long before September 11, 2001.
Most sincerely, dwayne chandler.
dwayne.chandler@us.army.mil
the media has always been a problem
bought and paid for, like the congress and the senate and the whitehouse
the reason that our founding fathers provided, in the constitution, the right whereby the citizens could possess guns was not to ensure some bad ass gangster could have the proper weaponry to carjack your chevy.
no, that was not the reason.
it is there (the right to bear arms)in the constitution so that the citizenry would have the means to fight back against the government, that's right your own government - not someone else's, they have the armed forces to do that.
they recognized that a president could get out of hand and that the congress and the senate could be co-opted by money.
in other words they foresaw the dilemma we find ourselves in today.
the right to bear arms was/is your recourse, as they gave it to you.
smart guys, those founding fathers.
by the way, today's (sunday's) news tells us that the ex-fed chairman big al greenspan states in his new book, "the much anticipated memoirs" that the reason for going into iraq was for the oil.
he says he regrets that it is not possible to state the obvious, which he says: "everyone knows".
let bushco spin that.
I have thought all along that we need to perform large NV civil disobedient actions at all our local corporate media newspaper and TV outlets. But invariably the organizers nix the idea because are afraid of losing the crumbs of local coverage they get and with it their illusion of access...
I hear all this angry rage toward Bush and Congress, but the real problem is the Press. Bush would have left office by now if not for the corporate media protecting him like a modern-day Praetorian Guard.
We have to do something about the Press. Now. Start discussing ideas among yourselves, because if we can't do something about the Press, this country is doomed.
Why do we have to have this nonsensical reporting where the number of protesters is always underestimated, and counter-protesters' numbers are exaggerated?
I was at that freakin' protest. There was one block of anti-demonstrator nutjobs, one- to two-people deep. I counted 172. So where does the 1,000 come from? There were also 4-5 similarly unhinged hollerups at a couple other corners. OK, so now we're up to, say 182. Why does that constitute news-worthiness? Balance? That's like me claiming to the AP that the earth is flat, and they put out a headline saying "Earth Round of Flat? Opinions Differ" (apologies to whomever it was that originated that one).
Coco,
Thanks for the sites.
MA_Matriarch - Blackwater has only been in existence since 1997. Here is their own website. Maybe the US military has uses mercenaries before but not from Blackwater. Seems to me like you're a bit confused. Check out their website - they aren't hiding what they do from anyone.
http://www.blackwaterusa.com/
Its not in the interests of the Media to cover such mundane things as war protests. It disrupts the status quo. The so called liberal (LOL) rag the San Francisco Chronicle actually forgot to add a zero ( from 200,000 to 20,000 ) at one of the anti-war protests in 2003. Ofcourse the 'oops' moment was chronicled in a byline on page 6 three days later !!!
NEOMUNK
not sure, but maybe dwyane is with us.........we had some posts on another thread yesterday about this ambigious, sarcastic postings.........so let's just wait and see before we engage...............
Anyone here have YouTube footage of the demonstrations today? MSM won't report on it. I'm getting conflicted numbers. Anywhere between 10,000 and 100,000 people were supposed to have demonstrated. Some of those people must've been carrying cameras.
I wouldn't even wish my worst enemy the encounter!
Training? I know personally that Blackwater mercenaries have been employed since late 60's early 70's.
If we go to the streets to protest peacefully, regardless of our numbers, we will be ignored, imprisoned or killed.
If we take to the streets in violent protest, regardless of our numbers, we will be ignored, imprisoned or killed.
The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive, signed on May 9, 2007, would place all governmental power in the hands of the President and effectively abolish the checks and balances in the Constitution.
KBR, the Halliburton subsidiary recently reprimanded for gross overcharging in its military contracts in Iraq, won a $385 million contract to build detention centers.
What part of this don't we understand?
I have signed too many petitions to our "representatives." I have made too many phone calls. I have attended too many "rallies." They all were completely meaningless, made no difference, were completely ignored.
Mine may be a failed effort in the end but at least I will try to
DO SOMETHING! Will you help me? http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/unsanam2
and ANSWER face fines of 10,000 for posting signs advertising the march. whilst signs advertising discos were ignored. faux news had something to do with it.
It's funny how BUSH THE BULL SHITTER can go on national T.V. and try to convince the American people that were making progress. http://pol.moveon.org/troopshome/?id=11197-7755362-mLEe33&t=3 He's still a coward and it took him 32 years to get to Veitnam and not once was he fire at. He missed his combat tour of duty. Funny how those who have never seen combat want everyone else to go. He patrol the Mexican border looking for cong.
Washington DC is a huge cesspool filled with Democratic and Republican bottom feeders slurping just as hard as they can.
A few are standing at the edge of the pool, bailing with a teacup, beating their chests and shouting "Look at what I'm doing!"
Until we can find some people who will use a powerful pump to drain the tank and starve the bottom feeders, we are just going to get more of the same.
Jefferson said, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriot and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
In my opinion, the tree is looking pretty droopy these days.
There's nothing quite like Storm Troopers with guns and bayonets to keep We-The-People out of the People's House.
What's next? Fighting in the War Room or another Kent State Massacre? It's up to the inmates of the People's House.
Cheney has moved his money out of the US --
Having destroyed America's attempt at democracy, it won't take much for the neo-cons to knock down any other nations' attempt to live with social conscience.
Having been to Washington, DC quite a few times over the past decade in response to growing fascism in America, I also question the value of it -- though the "in house/USHR" visits and demonstrations, I think are effective.
Nobody home in Washington, DC -- and no coverage of it --
leads me to think that we need other kinds of demonstrations -- not that DC might not be the right thing to do at some time; but not always.
I, too, found it shocking that C-span gave up all pretense of not being controlled by their corporate masters and didn't cover the 9/15 anti-war demonstrations!!!
Really sad -- !!!
But C-span hasn't been what it should be for a long, long time now. They're lucky they still exist! Comcast here in NJ doesn't even provide C-span II any longer; moved it to another tier of service where it is broadcast in high definition -- !!! As though that's urgently important!!!
John Perkins, in his revealing book, "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man," describes how third world countries around the globe, during the last half of the 20th century, were given massive loans by the IMF and World Bank. More money than the countries could ever pay back. By this means, the corporate paymasters of the military - industrial complex came to dominate most of the world in the biggest empire in history. If a country's leaders started to take actions that would help their own people instead of following international capital's agenda, they were threatened with economic collapse to bring them back into line.
Well, the idiocy of those same corporate paymasters and their accomplices among the Neocons have managed to get the U.S. so much in debt that we no longer have our sovereignty now.
China now has economic veto power over U.S. policy.
This is probably the only thing that will stop Dick Cheney from attacking Iran. If he does, the U.S. dollar can be made to collapse overnight, and in private conversations, this will be held over the Cheneycons heads.
The threat of loss of the value of his dollars may even make Cheney blink.
Just want to throw it out there because it's been on my mind... but how long until things are being referred to as the Iraqi Genocide? 1+ million killed, 4+ million displaced... I can only hope foreign history texts call it as it is.
Any recommendations senatorsson, or just condemnations?
And the beat goes on, la-de da-dee-da.
Yep, the imperialist war machine
paused, stumbled and fell gravely
injured on September 15th.
Oh yeah, another impotent liberal
gathering(on a Saturday) that has
been censored by the capitalist
media; even c-span did not air
a single minute of live coverage,
thus revealing who their masters
are.
Oh no, the September 15th die-in
and protests were certainly not
business as usual for the anti-war
movement(sarcasm fully intended).
Most sincerely, dwayne chandler.
dwayne.chandler@us.army.mil
IT ALSO MADE IT TO; yahoo, www.gulf-times.com and www.aljazeera.net
The counter protesters are our 'Brownshirts.'
Just wait 'til the Blackwater mercenaries return from their training mission in Iraq.
If I was not in denial, I would swear 'It already happened here'
I classify the counter protesters as like the dems who see only what is in it for them because it has been shouted from one end of the country to the other that this an illeagal war or more true,an illeagal occupation and whatever support the troops get from the powers that be are filtered down thru the contractors.It is feckless and inhumane.Tony
I saw the protest twice on tv today. Tampa Bay Chanel 9 News.
Great ideas all. But I'm still waiting for items 14-100. I plan to put up a webpage and use these as the masthead.
Citizen J is right. Our march in 2004, same thing happened. They only issued a protest permit on Saturday, when everybody was out of town for the weekend. We had at least 200,000 people there and the neocon press either cut that number in half or dropped some zeros. I doubt you can even find any old stories on it, since it was so minimally covered.
Sunday Cindy Shean got arrested for "refusing to move along." The day before, when I shouted "Phuck Bush and the horse he rode in on!" at the dozen war supporters in front of the white house, Capital Police immediately told us to move along, which we did. The "Jesus-loves-the-war" supporters who were shouting "God's will is to obey the president" were not told to move along by capital cops. While not a legal scholar, my understanding is that only if you refused to comply with a "peace officer's" order that would land you in jail.
So don't be afraid to show up in D.C. on the next one and protest. The lodging is great and reasonably priced at priceline dot com or others. (check google earth for restaurants.) The street route of the protests are carefully roped off and obvious since the permit explains exactly where you can go and mounted cops are at every intersection. Inexplicably, however, the permitted route keep you away from Cheney and the Congress. But I always remembered that:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Isn't the law to have a carefully spelled out permit banning you far away from the congress a direct violation of the constitution?
Isn't the denial of a permit to assemble on Monday through Friday "abridging the freedom of the people to assemble, and petition the Government for a redress of grievances?"
You bet it is.
These little commie "Skull and Bones" pukes are going to have to pay for dicking up our country. As far as I am concerned, any organization that destroys the constitution is a terrorist organization. This includes not only "Skull and Bones" at Yale, but also the MBA mafia at Business schools such as Harvard. They incited the downfall of America by encouraging American CEO's to take over the government and to disobey it's laws as long as they didn't get caught.
That's what I think. Cure the disease not the symptoms.
What do you think? Dissenters welcome.
pacplyer