Six Years of 9/11 as a License to Kill
It evokes a tragedy that marks an epoch. From the outset, the warfare state has exploited “9/11,” a label at once too facile and too laden with historic weight — giving further power to the tacit political axiom that perception is reality.
Often it seems that media coverage is all about perception, especially when the underlying agendas are wired into huge profits and geopolitical leverage. If you associate a Big Mac or a Whopper with a happy meal or some other kind of great time, you’re more likely to buy it. If you connect 9/11 with a need for taking military action and curtailing civil liberties, you’re more likely to buy what the purveyors of war and authoritarian government have been selling for the past half-dozen years.
“Sept. 11 changed everything” became a sudden cliche in news media. Words are supposed to mean something, and those words were — and are — preposterous. They speak of a USA enthralled with itself while reducing the rest of the world (its oceans and valleys and mountains and peoples) to little more than an extensive mirror to help us reflect on our centrality to the world. In an individual, we call that narcissism. In the nexus of media and politics, all too often, it’s called “patriotism.”
What happened on Sept. 11, 2001, was extraordinary and horrible by any measure. And certainly a crime against humanity. At the same time, it was a grisly addition to a history of human experience that has often included many thousands killed, en masse, by inhuman human choice. It is simply and complexly a factual matter that the U.S. government has participated in outright mass murders directly — in, for example, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Panama, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq — and less directly, through aid to armies terrorizing civilians in Nicaragua, Angola, East Timor and many other countries.
The news media claim to be providing context. But whose? Overall, the context of Uncle Sam in the more perverse and narcissistic aspects of his policy personality. The hypocrisies of claims about moral precepts and universal principles go beyond the mere insistence that some others “do as we say, not as we do.” What gets said, repeated and forgotten sets up kaleidoscope patterns that can be adjusted to serve the self-centered mega-institutions reliably fixated on maintaining their own dominance.
Media manifestations of these patterns are frequently a mess of contradictions so extreme that they can only be held together with the power of ownership, advertising and underwriting structures — along with notable assists from government agencies that dispense regulatory favors and myriad pressure to serve what might today be called a military-industrial-media complex. Our contact with the world is filtered through the mesh of mass media to such a great extent that the mesh itself becomes the fabric of power.
The most repetitious lessons of 9/11 — received and propagated by the vast preponderance of U.S. news media — have to do with the terribly asymmetrical importance of grief and of moral responsibility. Our nation is so righteous that we are trained to ask for whom the bell tolls. Rendered as implicitly divisible, humanity is fractionated as seen through red-white-and-blue windows on the world.
Posing outside cycles of violence and victims who victimize, the dominant vision of Pax Americana has no more use now than it did six years ago for W.H. Auden’s observation: “Those to whom evil is done / Do evil in return.”
We ought to know. But we Americans are too smart for that.
The U.S. media tell us so.
Norman Solomon’s new book “Made Love, Got War: Close Encounters with America’s Warfare State” has just come off the press. For more information, go to: www.MadeLoveGotWar.com. The documentary film “War Made Easy: How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death” is based on Norman Solomon’s book of the same title. For information about the full-length movie, narrated by Sean Penn and produced by the Media Education Foundation, go to: www.WarMadeEasyTheMovie.org
September 11th 2001, to me, was an isolated incident of the culmination of the many negative instances the USA has done to various nations for the last one hundred years. September 11th 2001, Americans, was a very small taste of what the USA military has done throughout the world. It would be shocking to understand that the USA military has done infinitely worse than what happened on September 11th 2001 inside the USA. MILLIONS of people throughout the world have been killed or disfigured due to the actions of “Uncle Sam” - prior to September 11th 2001. I bet a good number of Americans are unable to identify half of the nations mentioned in this article the USA has terrorized looking at a global map.
Perhaps humility, forgiveness, even an apology to the world for the arrogance of American culture would have been better action than misguided revenge, scapegoating, and playing into the hands of al-Qaeda while validating their beliefs, after September 11th 2001. The former choice may have saved Americans their money AND human lives - and sparing Iraq from becoming a nuclear wasteland. All the USA invasion/occupation of Iraq has done was confirm what bin Laden believed. Evidently, some Americans, particularly Republicans and American Fundamentalist Zionist Christians, either did not take bin Laden seriously after 9/11 (ridiculous notion I know - good luck convincing the Americans affiliated with said demographics that) or was daring some nation or “terrorist group” to commit another attack on their soil.
Two questions. What criteria or convincing argument can be made to the other eight and one-half billion people, who are not USA citizens, that the USA stands for positive morality? Why is Democracy and Capitalism the best political and economic systems? I have yet to hear the answers to these questions.
The U.S. should bring the military home and keep them their.
We also need to stay the hell out of other countries business.
By this I mean No military aid, no food aid, No economic aid,no supporting one side against the other. If a country ends up with a dictatorship, even one that oppresses or steals from the population, who cares? It is none of our business. Let them sort it out.
We all know it was a “crime” but with gatekeepers like Norman Solomon we are kept in the dark. These False Flag opperations have happened before. Have we all seen TerrorStorm yet? What are you waitign for? Google it now.
- v
Perpetrators always blame their victims….
Perpetrators always blame their victims…. Cleverly redirecting blame making the victim suffer twice….firstly the pain as a result of the injury then secondly experiencing guilt then shame by being accused by the perpetrator of causing it …..
Successive US Warmongering Administrations [right or left] are masters of this spin….
In 4 and one half years, the U.S. invasion/occupation of Iraq (more specifically, laying the foundation for the genocide of a culture, using them as a scapegoat for USA problems - while stealing their natural resources. How Christian of the USA for choosing to do such acts by the way) has so far cost the USA Government almost ONE TRILLION U.S. DOLLARS, not including interest. American troops are unable to stay there
ad infinitum as the USA Government is unable to afford to. How can a nation borrow THUS FAR almost one trillion dollars on Iraq alone and yet expect to borrow more? Something WILL give for the choice the USA made for invading Iraq after September 11th 2001. Several Americans have the notion that they can just borrow money without paying it back, and/or have no concept of interest, I guess. The also forget the fact that there are consequences for choices a nation one makes; sometimes to the detriment of its people (i.e. Germany in 1945).
If the USA invades Iran, which unfortunately will be at both nations peril, how will the USA borrow the money for this invasion? While China is lending the money to the USA for Iraq, I do not think China will lend the USA for the Iran invasion, as it is against the interest of China and Russia also for the USA to invade Iran. Plus this action will reinforce how “moral” your nation truly is.
Sir Melvin Cleophus September 10th, 2007 3:02 pm
“How Christian of the USA for choosing to do such acts by the way) has so far cost the USA Government almost ONE TRILLION U.S. DOLLARS”
And Americans wonder why in the Muslim world America is known as the “great infidel”. Over next 10 years the Accrued cost to US taxpayers will be 2.5 trillion dollars. If average Americans understood this Accounting 101 Fact they would turn off their “Play stations” and “Paris Hilton gobbledygook” and RIOT IN THE STREETS…..
AND A LICENSE TO STEAL!
“Our contact with the world is filtered through the mesh of mass media to such a great extent that the mesh itself becomes the fabric of power.”
This is so true. The mass media is responsible for most of the problems in the USA, from the current housing crisis to our troops on the ground in Iraq. They did a great job on dumbing down America. Their track record is phenomenal. I think we have been on the wrong track writing congressmen and senators. Our focus should be on Media and Corporations, the people that control congressmen and senators. That’s just my opinion.
Why does our government work for banks and corporations instead of for We the People?
Inspired insight from Mr. Solomon.
No doubt the 9/11 state of mind is diseased as well as a propaganda device for the manipulation of the American public! Yet, the underlying truth and cause of 9/11 as well as the criminal wars of aggression against Afghanistan and Iraq, are becoming more apparent every day despite the lies of our fascist government and complicit media.
Just yesterday I asked a clerk in a local store what he thought about Iraq and he replied without hesitation, “I think it is all one big war crime.” This was someone who did not question the initial invasion.
And who are the war criminals ? Without question the list would include, the current White House cabal, both sides of the aisle in Congress, the Pentagon, the mainstream media and all other corporations profiting from the death and destruction. To date a million Iraqis have died and about 5,000 Americans (contractors included) while creating a war debt of $2 Trillion that will translate into economic suffering in the near future. And all for the pathological designs of elite money junkies who can never have enough and refuse to share the wealth.
And are we winning the “War On Terror” created by America’s terrorist foreign policy of the past ? I think not.
We have become the global villains in the eyes of the world’s majority who are watching the slow decline of an empty empire while silently cheering for the oppressed. Even working class Americans are becoming more aware that they are among the oppressed.
And doing the economic math, the empire is hemorrhaging money with no return on the horizon. Only more death and more debt.
While Bin Laden’s recent statement was ignored, he explained in no uncertain terms that American corporations are behind the seemingly endless war crimes. This truth is becoming better understood by the average American now that the lies of the White House and Congress have been exposed.
But as the war of ideas expands, to much of the non-American world there is little question as to how they view this global conflict and who they regard with admiration. Quoted from the words of a Pakistani scholar, in “Imperial Hubris“:
“ Osama Bin Laden is a liberator of the downtrodden people. They do not only respect Osama, they love him. They consider it a great achievement, if their lives are lost working for Osama. Osama Bin Laden had become larger than life figure. He is a symbol of love. He is a person in in whom the entire world sees their hopes and wishes. Osama is a symbol of the peoples hatred for the United States. He has become as dangerous as a nuclear bomb. The United Sates can never catch Osama because he lives in the hearts of every Muslim. And: The entire world with its huge armies and most modern weaponry was bent on killing this one person. But those who try to extinguish the sun themselves die, and therefore, these forces have failed and Osama has been successful in his sacred mission.”
For some mysterious reason, Bush remains resented around the world while the spin masters have yet to “swiftboat” the global image of Bin Laden.
Osama has become a symbol of what is now a growing resistance to the pathological schemes of the American empire. His life, however mortal and flawed, will remain as an symbol of liberation long after his death.
It is time for the American people to join the resistance, if only in thought and spirit.
Re: One TRILLION Dollars (say it like Dr. Evil so it doesn’t hurt so much)
simonhhh: “If average Americans understood this Accounting 101 Fact they would turn off their “Play stations” and “Paris Hilton gobbledygook” and RIOT IN THE STREETS…..”
Man, Americans completely understand this fact! The problem is, enough of us are insulated from any consequence, and so we easily ignore it. Just like the war itself, which is being fought by the sacrifices of the US military and not the American public at large. If not for TV, I could live blissfully unaware that there’s even a war on. Nothing’s changed here in civilian-land! Paris Hilton and Playstations will have the upper hand until the lights go out because the US can’t pay its electric bill. Then, and only then, will we see what kind of protesting the Yankee people are really capable of. A military draft might also push us in that direction.
simonhhh,
2500000000000/300000000000= only $8333
Why are you complaining? we spent more than that for gas , football/beer , health care and of course on food/year.
Ask the patriots and they are willing to spend more than that from other people’s money.
I got to go and watch my football and have a beer.
Since 9/11 the USA have acted like they are the victims of the most horrendous act ever, as if no one has ever suffered as bad they did that day. They are the world’s biggest crybabies. And Also the biggest cowards. See them quiver with fear that some terrible scary Muslim is gonna get them any second.
I, for one, can be against the war and still think that Osama is a murderous scumbag.
Hi there, all of you. This is me Ussama posting from beyond the grave, ’cause I’m dead. That’s why GeorgiBoy can not catch me (though he had known this since I died in 1993). I want to thank the talented Pentagon fashion designers for the latest forgery-fakery video that looks like me and sounds like me so much that I am laughing myself to death (or to life ? ). For a stylish and fashion crazy nerd like me it is an excellent manufacturing job.
Then who is this nasty Norman Solomon who doesn’t give me and my 19 martyred boys any credit for having hijacked planes with bare knife cutters and slammed them into the Towers because I am a born terrrorist and I hate your freedom and things like that. Deep in my grave I couldn’t care less for neocon’s PNAC’s agenda and a new Pearl Harbor and all that shit. It just happened tht the Towers had already been loaded with demolition explosives and miniature nukes so that the firework would be more spectacular just in case a plane happened to slam into them. But that was just a coincidence and pure luck for my buddy GeorgiBush. Stop your crazy conspiracy theories. I repeat,pure coincidence.
Bye Bye till the next fake video.
ussama,
how did you manage to get black beard in the grave ?
OBL — or UBL — is half Willie Horton, half Emmanuel Goldstein.
As Gore writes in “The Assault on Reason,” the fear response is very unamenable to discerning non-individualized threats. The history of corporate control of the military & CIA subversion & assassination is spread out over decades, and involves many who stayed out of the limelight; the smirk of the Beast is probably its truest icon, but in reality the Clintons and the humanitarian Jimmy Carter were just as happy with it as the current lot. If the Osama-bin-Laden Comedy Players were ever rounded up — or the real article, a CIA asset from a quarter century ago, were caught, then the flying monkeys would have nothing to pin their fear to. They are trying to switch over to Ahmadinejad, but outside Holylanders of all sorts, no one’s buying him as the next SuperHitler.
Isn’t it convenient that whenever the neocon globalist agenda starts to stall, then up pops Osama with another viddie to scare the sheople? Isn’t it interesting that with his latest offering, BinLaden’s rhetorical style seems to have shifted from Islamic fundamentalist to that of a Berkleyesque liberal activist? Is there anybody with an above-room-temperature I.Q. who buys this shit?
Hard to take this from Solomon who has proven he cannot connect the dots. My longer post, evidently too controversial, has been blocked, so suffice it to say only this:
As for Solomon’s naive ahistoricism, one only needs to note that AQ was funded, arguably initiated by US intelligence agencies to break Afghanistan away from Soviet control. Indeed, the alleged ‘hijackers’ appear to be patsies involved in the numerous war games going on on 9/11, part of the Able Danger program. That would explain why they had no trouble traveling around the US, training at airports associated with the Iran-contra days. Noting that the KLA was another example of the intersection of US (and German) intelligence agencies, Muslim extremists, drug and gun runners, etc. is to note how these same elements were used in another imperial project of historical note. Put it all in historical context, check out this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO110A.html
“and she say ‘who’s gonna take away…his license to kill?’”
bob dylan
2 things:
1. first of all the issues facing the us today the issue of net neutrality is of the highest magnitude, apart from everything else in this article, whether you liked it or not.
this is the google primer on net neutrality and i ask, deeply and widely, for everyone to read it. please.
http://www.google.com/help/netneutrality.html
2. Stiv Whitman: this is a good post, for a short one, and you have said a lot.
aq, as you call them, were indeed funded by the cia. in fact they did more than arm them, they went as far as creating an ultra-orthodox muslim school curriculum, still in use today, and the text books were done at the u of nebraska.
simply put; the russian occupation of afghanistan was essentially a brutal series of helicopter gunship attacks. the ruskies would fly in drop some death and fly home. the ground is so inhospitable that no one has ever really occupied this place.
through the pakistani secret police, who’s head must be approved, by the way, by the president of the united states, arms flowed to aq, most notably ground to air missiles. the first day they were deployed they shot down three russian gunships and the russian retreat was on.
the hijackers, at best, were patsies. rather than muslim extremists they were alcohol drinking, cocaine sniffing layabouts - with no apparent useful function. patsies are often like that.
the biggest point you raised though was operation able danger. i’d like to know more of what you know.
as i understand it, able danger was a series of exercises run that day, september 9, 2001, that included, but were not limited to, at least 26 distinct games involving: three commercial plane hijackings, one commercial plane being flown into a building in new york, and a full scale nuclear alert of the highest readiness.
the east coast air readiness was largely consumed with these exercises, some of them as far away as alaska.
peeling back the onion skin of 9/11 and exposing the true treason of that day is the biggest task for the amecican public. straightening that out would give the country a new and much needed fresh start on this the new century. maybe if the americans can stand up and quit being afraid and quit listening to the government telling you to be terrorized and terrorized and terrorized - quit listening to the lies of the controlled media. find some courage.
this guy living in a cave in afghanistan, who many argue was killed in tora bora in 1999, ought not to have this level of fear among you all. its comparable to a 250 pound weightlifter, mixed martial artist, with a lead pipe and 357 magnum cowering in a corner because you got bit by a mosquito.
9/11 was a false flag event conducted by the elements of real power within and without the government.
i know its hard to accept for a lot of people. it seems crazy. let me ask you this: how crazy does george w bush seem to you?
wake up or die. its come to that.
Stiv Whitman, your link is a good link, people should read check it out.
i would like to see your longer post. split it up and upload twice.
I fully believe 9/11 was an inside job. The evidence is overwhelming. Our media is just a sick pathetic joke. Whoever is running this place I can’t say for sure and I’m not at all sure they are even from this country. Think about it, what foreign enemy could have done the destruction we have seen to our country? If we had been attacked outright at least we would know who to fight back against.
False flag attack’s, trumped up allegations against foreign countries back up with corroborating lies by a complicit media. Rubber stamped by an either stupid or complicit congress.
What will it take to get back to a government of and by the people? Is there even any hope of it?
you ask:
What will it take to get back to a government of and by the people? Is there even any hope of it?
think about your forefathers. think about the constitution. think about the republic. get your mind around the fact that it may be - just may be - your turn to die.
its that serious
i remember that some guy, a yank i think, once said;
give me liberty or give me death.
evan_viewer
The warfare state created 9/11 as a false flag OP to steal Oil..and commit a host of other atrocities.
If they wanted to steal Oil and commit a host of other attrocities they didn’t need to bring down WTC.
There are easier ways to make/steal a buck and world domination isn’t all it’s cracked up to be… you know, hard to make a profit if everybody’s enslaved.
WTC came down due some seriously motivated people with misguided ideas. It’s Tragic.
Karl_Marx
Bush is fighting a war on terrorism when in fact terrorism doesn’t exist. Not even ETA, or FARC. ETA and FARC are not terrorist groups, they are revolutionary-violent groups with specific political goals, but not terrorists perse. Terrorism as Bush paints it like killing thousands of civilians, is only done by US Government and other capitalist governments. Not even a suicide-bomber is a terrorist. A suicide-bomber is a nationalist insurgent, not a terrorist. In Bush’s language all good people of this world are terrorists, from JFK, to Che Guevara, to Lincoln, even Jesus Christ was a terrorist according to Bush
Everyone is entitled to an opinion… you’re not selling me on that one.
We were 100% against going to war, but far too many of you were swept up in Bush’s “go gettem” fervor. Our Internet sourcing company in Boulder supplied the White House with militant Islamic information that if studied predicted what would happen if we invaded Iraq…chaos. But Bush’s ideological mentality caused him to attack the symptoms instead of determining and rectifying the causes. Thousands and thousands dead, millions displaced and trillions spent for war instead of good purposes. May God save us from any further disaster from these idiots in Washington. And open our hearts and eyes when we hear the false call to be patriotic again. A true patriot weeds out the traitors to our Constitution, particularly those who lied saying they would support and defend it. That’s treason in our book and why in hell is impeachment is off the table, Pelosi? With all this, you are right Norman…The bell tolls for thee, USA.
And as for you, Hillary, if you got sucked in to back Bush to invade Iraq, how in hell do you think you have the intelligence to lead this country. You can’t get away from it. You VOTED TO GO TO WAR IN IRAQ. Period. No excuses, you stupid bitch.
correction to my post about able danger - it was of course september 11, 2001, not september 9, 2001.
just for the record webster tarpley says that chomsky is, rather than working for bush, is just awol on false flag 9/11
two good men
these guys are not our problems.
stilba__ I do not agree that Americans understand the consequences of a trillion dollar debt. Many would have trouble even knowing how many zeros to put on, let alone realize the added problem when interest is added on. Too many act like they never have to worry about their own monstrous debt, why worry about the government debt? The chickens are all going to come home to roost before long, and it will not be pretty, as the personal share of the national debt is out of sight now, and Bush continues to squander the nations wealth. Pity the younger folks that were not taught to economize and work with their hands to exist, as that may be required of them. See how popular the “war on terror” is then.
irs September 10th, 2007 4:29 pm
2,500,000,000,000/300,000,000,000= only $8333
irs - There are only 3 MILLION + x people in the USA, not 3 BILLION! You need to add 3 more zeros to the per capita tab: $8,333,000. That’s far more than most of us will make in a lifetime - total. That’s some expensive beer you drink!
Excerpts from an oped in an Indian newspaper:
” More often than not, history has come to mean servitude to the past. This comes in the way of the flowering of the human mind; for humanity to evolve, the past must be left behind; not lived and relived as the wounds tend to fester and never heal.
And yet humankind, especially in the West, brings back sad memories of the past to mar their present. The anniversary on Tuesday of the 9/11 attacks is a case in point.
It’s marked year after year with a ‘lest-we-forget’ self-flagellation that achieves less for those who are gone, but leaves the living with a spirit of revenge and anger — both negative sentiments…
…The western impulse — probably influenced by Judaic traditions — is one for keeping alive the sense of victimhood. “
bignosekate,
I better quit the local beer and switch to scotch whiskey to sharpen my brain.
You better check tour math with 300 million people
2500,000,000,000/300,000,000=8333
I was wrong on the equation but not the answer
“Those to whom evil is done / Do evil in return.”–also defines the Israeli government.
A good example of why people should remember scientific notation so that they can quickly make sense of how large numbers compare. Innumeracy in the US is going to prove to be a big problem.
imfedup wrote…
“If they wanted to steal Oil and commit a host of other attrocities they didn’t need to bring down WTC.”
My response
Your statement is incorrect. The US needed 9/11 to get public support “for war” and this requirement is clearly identified in the PNAC document (…needing a New Pearl Harbor) endorsed by Cheney, Rummy and other high level Bush aides (early cabinet). They thought so and acted accordingly…your “opinion” does nothing to refute their ideology.
imfedup wrote…
“There are easier ways to make/steal a buck and world domination isn’t all it’s cracked up to be… you know, hard to make a profit if everybody’s enslaved.”
My response
Your statement is incorrect. The Banking system has made huge profits off of the political / financial enslavement (loans…interest) of the masses. The World Bank amd IMF practice this enslavement over many 3rd world countries today. A little reearch into these subjects will show you that the quest for world “financial / political” domination has made more progress than you think.
imfedup wrote…
WTC came down due some seriously motivated people with misguided ideas. It’s Tragic.”
My response…
Your statement is ambiguous. Who are these “motivated” people? 19 men in a cave with no motivation/ resources to pull off such a perfect crime …or the US Gov hell bent on pursuing world domination and lying to its people for support (Like WMD). Again, I will refer you to the PNAC document to discover the misguided ideas you speak of.
imfedup wrote…
It’s Tragic.
My response…
Yes, it is tragic that the American people are so ignorant as to allow their GOV to stike against them and then exploit their false flag op to strike against other weak and unprotected countries.
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Imfedup,
What are you fed up about? Make room…as there is much more for you to learn.
RJKT quotes, “” More often than not, history has come to mean servitude to the past.” I’d like to speak to that for a moment. This time of year is the Jewish new year, Rosh Hoshonnah. Ironically, soon after the “new year” is declared, the more solemn ritual (Yom Kippur) of repenting for sins in the past is celebrated. It always seemed insane to me to speak of new year, then go back to focusing on the dark side of yesterday and actions attributable to it. It’s the same with Christians (at least here in N. Florida) always focusing on “Jesus dying for YOUR sins.” And in the legal field, how often is it that a ruling from the PAST is used to determine what cause of action should be taken today? Yeah. It’s all ass backwards and scholars wonder why human beings get it so wrong, and history repeats.
evan_viewer
Your statement is ambiguous. Who are these “motivated” people? 19 men in a cave with no motivation/ resources to pull off such a perfect crime …or the US Gov hell bent on pursuing world domination and lying to its people for support (Like WMD). Again, I will refer you to the PNAC document to discover the misguided ideas you speak of.
What are you fed up about? Make room…as there is much more for you to learn.
I’m sorry but I can’t buy into your conspiracy theory here sparky. There is much to learn in this wonderful world of ours and it’s not nearly as pathetic as you are painting it.
Now don’t get your hair up… yes there is evil in this world but you are adding to the hatred not solving it.
imfedup wrote…
I’m sorry but I can’t buy into your conspiracy theory here sparky.
My response
Do you even know what a conspiracy theory is? Seeing that you have already bought the US GOV’s conspiracy theory with your freedom, more war debt, ignorance etc. I can see how you would not have much left to “buy” anything else.
imfedup wrote…
There is much to learn in this wonderful world of ours…
My response
Stating that there is much to learn is one thing; “actually” learning is another. Your statement neither adds to your position nor subtracts from mine. Are we learning something now?
imfedup wrote…
and it’s not nearly as pathetic as you are painting it.
My response
Would it be as pathetic as your GOV paints it? 9/11 Fear…Terrorism…and all…needing endless wars (Iraq, Iran)? Have you read the other articles on this site concerning US aggression? What color paint are you using, Picasso? It seems quite transparent.
imfedup wrote…
Now don’t get your hair up
My response
Actually imfedup,…a fed up person is more prone to get their hair up. Reflect carefully on this one and stay away from witty sarcasm, it is as lame as everything else you have written thus far.
imfedup wrote…
… yes there is evil in this world but you are adding to the hatred not solving it.
My response
Truth / knowledge does not add to hatred, but ignorance can be easily “misguided” to both accept and support it. Hence, the whole 9/11 illusion.
Since you are so fed up (with what, I don’t know)…what is your recommendation to solve it? Pretty Paintings?
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Ok, you had your chance to offer something concrete and you didn’t. You may have the last word…It is not my job to convince you of anything…but you may feel free to research PNAC, World Bank, and IMF to educate yourself about the incorrect statements you made earlier.
As the saying goes…”You cannot wake a man who is pretending to be asleep”. So, sleep tight…I won’t disturb you.
evan_viewer
Stating that there is much to learn is one thing; “actually” learning is another. Your statement neither adds to your position nor subtracts from mine.
Well said sir.
Ok, you had your chance to offer something concrete and you didn’t. You may have the last word…It is not my job to convince you of anything…but you may feel free to research PNAC, World Bank, and IMF to educate yourself about the incorrect statements you made earlier.
very well…
PNAC, World Bank, and IMF are all known to me. The pros and cons of these organizations are also known. I’m not here
to defend, condemn or praise them.
My comments are directed towards your state of mind.
I don’t agree with your conclusions. I feel they were developed with an angry bias.
Judge me as you wish but I stand by all my statements.
As the saying goes… “Never try to rationalize with someone who is convinced he’s right.” So sleep tight I won’t try to rationalize with you.
May Peace travel wherever you may wander.
p.s. I love Picasso
“Six Years of 9/11 as a License to Kill”
Would the government wage a false flag attack to grant itself this license? Look at 9/11 more closely.
Most of you people are a bunch of oxygen thieves! You don’t understand the existential threat we face and don’t have the balls to face it if you did! While I find much to criticize in the Bush administration’s conduct of the war, I contend that it is lack of action that is the problem. The proper and rational response to 911 would have been the utter destruction of a dozen muslim cities! The jihadists have been operating with impunity for nearly 30 years. The average “moderate” muslim has paid no price for his acquiescence to the barbarity of his brethren. If they had paid the price the Japanese and Germans paid for their brethern’s crimes, the war on terror would be over. Failure to deal decisively with these pagan spawn of hell will merely delay the inevitable, at continued cost to the civilized world. No doubt, mushroom clouds will rise over the Middle East, but should we wait for one to rise over Manhattan?
Siouxrose. I couldn’t agree with you more. The more one thinks of it ,the more it seems the syndrome of being completely in thrall to the past is so very deeply ingrained in the Judeo-Christian ethos. And this constant harping on past outrages -far from being a healthy catharsis -actually points to a deep rooted malaise running through this ethos.
Two outrages in particular stand out : the Holocaust and 9/11. It seems that the world will never never be allowed to put these behind them - and move on. Year after year ,well into the future , we all seem fated to be forced to endure (increasingly cloying ) paroxysms of ritual (and de rigeur )breast-beating when their respective anniversaries roll around.
However far more individuals have perished in the recent past , particularly in Third World countries , often in far worse and more horrific outrages . Yet the countries where these took place ,have put these firmly behind them -and moved on. Ironically these countries are now among the most forward-looking in the world : China, Japan, Vietnam and India .(Where countless millions perished .)
To be fair though ,some Westerners have begun to feel a glimmering sense of disquiet about the sheer scale of the asymmetries. A few hundred Westerners die -and the world is never allowed to forget . Yet when non Westerners die in their thousands (and millions) it’s dismissed as mere ‘collateral damage ‘ - in certain cases ,evoking the same intensity of emotion as the extermination of a few million vermin.
Fed up with the License to Kill?
Fed up with Congress enabling the Decider?
Write, email & fax your Representative in the House and your two Senators and DEMAND the simultaneous impeachment of Bush and Cheney NOW.
That’s the fastest way to end the war.
“No doubt, mushroom clouds will rise over the Middle East, but should we wait for one to rise over Manhattan?”
mjbmontana, there is one nuke allegedly leaked out from our military, a U.S. B-52 bomber. Another false flag attack is only a matter of time. Look at the civilized world around you (Europe, Russia, China, etc.). What are they saying on the world stage?
Mjbmontana wrote…
Most of you people are a bunch of oxygen thieves! You don’t understand the existential threat we face and don’t have the balls to face it if you did!
My response
Correct, the US citizens are afraid to face their own government. Most are afraid to wake up from the illusion of the American Dream and face the fact that their government is a criminal establishment. Feel free to disassociate yourself from this group as soon as possible.
Mjbmontana wrote…
While I find much to criticize in the Bush administration’s conduct of the war, I contend that it is lack of action that is the problem.
My response
A lack of action on the part of the American people to challenge their masters, right?
Mjbmontana wrote…
The proper and rational response to 911 would have been the utter destruction of a dozen muslim cities!
My response
Have you been counting the number of Iraq’s cities destroyed like Baghdad, Fallujah …etc. Or the places in Afghanistan? The response is not proper…it is a holocaust considering none of these people had anything to do with 9/11. The proper response would have been a proper investigation, which would have yielded BushCo as the conspirators.
Mjbmontana wrote…
The jihadists have been operating with impunity for nearly 30 years.
My response
Where is your evidence? It was America who overthrew the elected Gov of Iran and installed the Shah…and when the “people” overthrew him…it was America who supported Saddam in attacking Iran. America supported Bin Laden in Afghanistan. Shall I even touch America’s unwarranted aggression in Central America? America has been operating as a terror state with impunity for decades. Learn your history.
Mjbmontana wrote…
The average “moderate” muslim has paid no price for his acquiescence to the barbarity of his brethren.
My response
The average Muslim has paid a high price for simply living on a land enriched with natural resources (oil). Much like Africa (Its people…Diamonds & Oil) and Central America (Farming etc)
Mjbmontana wrote…
No doubt, mushroom clouds will rise over the Middle East, but should we wait for one to rise over Manhattan?
My response
A huge “dust” cloud has already covered Manhattan on 9/11 and you accepted the story that the building simply collapsed. Collapsed buildings don’t produce huge dust clouds unless explosives are used. Seek knowledge and then seek help.
evan_viewer writes:
A huge “dust” cloud has already covered Manhattan on 9/11 and you accepted the story that the building simply collapsed. Collapsed buildings don’t produce huge dust clouds unless explosives are used. Seek knowledge and then seek help.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/09/0917_disasterbuildings.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/
I posted these since they will be easy for you to understand.
I suggest whole heartedly that you demand a refund from the University or other form of higher learning you got your diploma from. I’m sorry but that utterly ignorant and unfounded comment can not pass.
Where did the concrete go?
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”
Edmund Burke
Enough said.