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Ending the War in 2009
Let me tell you what the supporters of endless occupation are worried about. A Washington think tank, the Center for a New American Security, whose board includes Madeline Albright, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon recently warned that
The transition from president bush is getting more and more problematic as the American people continue to lose confidence in the Iraq War and step up their pressure on candidates from both parties. If no bipartisan consensus is reached before the Democratic and Republican primaries, the next president will likely be elected principally on a "get out of Iraq" platform. The political space to do otherwise is shrinking by the day."
Contrary to their worries, I thought: What a great prospect, that the American people through the democratic process can force the end of this war, can discredit the neo-conservatives agenda, can defeat the Bush-Cheney legacy, can rebuke hawkish mentality in both parties, and can drive the discussion of our future. I have written Ending the War in Iraq to hasten this possibility.
The conventional thinking that led us into quagmire is the same conventional thinking that says today that while it was a mistake to invade in 2003 it would be a bigger mistake to ever leave. These are not just White House flacks or Bush administration dead-enders, but friends we respect such as James Fallows has written -
I have come to this sobering conclusion. The United States can best train Iraqis, and therefore best help itself leave Iraq, only by making a long-term commitment to stay.
Too many are governed by the paradigm that we can never "stand down" until the Iraqis themselves "stand up", that we have to fight the insurgency to create space for the Iraqi government to become stable enough to secure itself, and only then can we leave.
The truth being denied is that we have funded, equipped, and trained a Frankenstein monster, and now multiple frankensteins, and they are indeed standing up. In any other conflict, the Iraqi regime and security forces would be called a police state. Yet we remain in denial because the truth would undermine the war's very rationale.. Even today, a prestigious military commission headed by General Jones reports that the Iraqi police force is hopelessly sectarian and should be scrapped. The media denial is evident in the coverage: the ninth paragraph on page 8 of the New York Times, the 25th paragraph on page 8 of the LA Times.
This is not new news. The Baker-Hamilton report last year said that the Iraqi police "routinely engage in sectarian violence, including the unnecessary detention, torture and targeted execution of Sunni Arab civilians."
The illusion is that the sectarian militias are outside the Iraqi state and must be reined in, when the reality is that the biggest militias are inside the interior ministry, inside the army, police and secret prisons, particularly the Badr Brigade which belongs to SCIRI, the dominant party in the ruling coalition we put in power. Nineteen billion of our tax dollars have been spent on building the Iraqi security system.
It gets worse. As encouraged by Gen. Petraeus a few years ago, at least 190,000 American-made AK-47s and 370,000 small arms sent Iraq are unaccounted for, most of them without serial numbers. This mass distribution of weapons was deliberate, not accidental, according to the GAO and Special Inspector General.
The illusion is that we are preventing a sectarian civil war when the reality is that, in the best British tradition, we have been fomenting and feeding a civil war which will fragment, subdivide and eliminate the basis of Arab nationalism in Iraq.
The intellectual proponent of this division is Stephen Biddle of the Council on Foreign Relations, an on-the-ground adviser to Gen. Petraeus. Biddle writes that the US should support both sides in the civil war. We should arm the Sunnis to gain leverage against the very Shi'a we put in power, and we should increase the Shi'a ability to create mass violence as an incentive for the Sunnis to compromise on their demand to end the occupation. This was written in Foreign Affairs magazine in 2006. The much-touted Petreaus plan to further divide Iraq by helping Sunnis fight other Sunnis in Anbar and Diyala provinces is little more than Kit Carson's plan to arm the Ute mercenaries against the Navajo over a century ago. I make the comparison because the Sunni fighters on the US payroll are even called the "Kit Carson Scouts."
All this is against current law, the Leahy Amendment of 1997 which expressly forbids US military assistance to governments or security forces that are known to be human rights violators. Why is this provision being ignored? Is it like the claim that violence is going down in parts of Baghdad, because there are fewer people for the death squads to kill. Will a day come when there will be no more human rights violations because there will be no more Iraqis with human rights to violate?
Fortunately, a few members of Congress - Maxine Waters, Barbara Lee, Lynn Woolsey - and one liberal think tank, the Center for American Progress, want to stop our taxes going for torture. Their HR 3134, just introduced, would require the end of all funding of the Iraqi army and police forces unless expressly approved by a vote of Congress. We need the media and groups like the clergy and the ACLU to pay attention to this developing issue. Americans may be uneasy about immediately cutting off funding for American troops in the field, but would be opposed to taxes going for secret torture chambers and ethnic cleansing.
There is a gaping hole in the major peace proposals from Baker-Hamilton to Feingold-Reid to Clinton and Obama. All the discussion is about withdrawing combat troops while leaving thousands of American troops as trainers and advisers to these feuding sectarian and dysfunctional Iraqi security forces. This is not a recipe for ending the war, but for turning it into a low-visibility, lower-casualty conflict like Afghanistan.
Partial troop reducaions may diminish public attention during the election year - that will be partly up to us - but are unlikely to alter the course of the war. It is hard to imagine fewer American troops, embedded as trainers and secret commandos, succeeding militarily where 162,000 could not.
So what's the answer? In the debate on Capitol Hill, I favor setting a withdrawal deadline, which is the only way to begin the shift away from a military model to a conflict resolution model. But a deadline is not enough. I interviewed former CIA director John Deutch about a rational exit plan, and he stressed two essentials: [1] that the US has to decide to withdraw, which it has not, and [2] he stressed diplomacy with Iran, which he called the only country that could cause trouble during our withdrawal. He was implying negotiations with Iran to obtain what Richard Nixon once called a "decent interval" for the US to leave Vietnam.
We should call for a shift from warmaking to peacemaking through a diplomatic offensive, declaring a firm intention to withdraw all American troops and bases on a one-year timetable, which would create an immediate incentive for engagement on the part of Iran, Syria, the Arab League, the Europeans, Russians and Chinese, the UN. No one has an interest in joining the US in the occupation; everyone has a interest in minimizing a power vacuum as we leave. The issues to be resolved will be humanitarian assistance to 3-4 million refugees, economic reconstruction, and protection of all Iraqis from unrestrained vendettas. America should offer to assist by appointing a peace envoy and offering billions in reconstruction. The horrific damage cannot be undone but can be contained and mitigated.
Of course our government is following the absolute opposite course from that proposed by Deutch, and even has drawn up contingency plans for a possible escalation to Iran. Many of the neo-conservatives continue to push, as in Vietnam, for escalation as the solution to quagmire.
It is here that the force of public opinion really matters in the coming year, and election year when public opinion becomes most important to decision-makers.
I find that the peace movement has been misunderstood and underestimated these past five years.
This is partly because we are governed by past image of peace movements as strictly outside protests in the streets as during Vietnam. But those were times of deep exclusion, when many could not vote and were structurally outside the institutions. The image of a defiant draft-card burner or bleeding demonstrator remains in our heads when in reality the typical resister today is an outraged blogger.
Not that we haven't been in the streets. On nine occasions, more than 100,000 people have assembled, several times in numbers closer to 500,000.
Nearly 200 city councils and legislatures have voted to oppose the war.
Public opinion came to view Iraq as a mistake more rapidly that the public did during Vietnam, according to Gallup surveys.
Cindy Sheehan and other military families have neutralized the old claims that the peace movement is against the troops.
Howard Dean shocked the Democratic Party when he became the Eugene McCarthy of 2003.
Michael Moore shocked everyone when his Farenheit set unprecedented box office records in 2004.
Robert Greeenwald's videos and YouTube spots reach hundreds of thousands of people.
Fifty thousand people listen to Amy Goodman's and Juan Gonzales "war and peace report" every morning in LA.
The Dixie Chicks stood their ground in Texas, defeated blacklisting, and still aren't ready to make nice.
Members of MoveOn.org contributed $180 million to candidates in 2003-2004.
The 2004 election was the first in our history when the American voters turned out a Congressional majority over a war in progress.
Whether impeachment happens or not, the Bush Administration is being impeached in installments - Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Libby, Gonzales - they have failed to make Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame the Daniel Ellsbergs of this war.
The peace movement is suffering from success, not failure. There can be an identity crisis when marginalized people suddenly find themselves in the majority, but that is where we are.
I can hear some of you asking, How can we consider ourselves successful when Iraqis and Americans are dying every minute, when the juggernaut continues, when, when the system that produced Iraq is gearing up for Iran? All I can ask is that you not let the suffering break you, not let the suffering push you down ineffective roads, but turn the pain into a controlled and strategic rage that creates ripple effects towards justice.
The year 2009 will be decisive. This week comes the debate over the surge. Next week the president's recommendations. Then the elusive search among the politicians for bipartisan consensus. Then the appropriations bill, then the new request for next year's war funding, then the presidential primaries, all of that in the next six months. Then in April, comes the projected breaking point for the armed forces, when some troop withdrawals will have to begin or tours of duty extended to intolerable lengths. Then the political conventions in the protest-friendly cities of Denver and Minneapolis, and then the campaign itself.
Step by step, we all need to ensure that ending the war is the issue on which the elections turn.
Activists need to apply people pressure to the pillars of the policy: the pillars of public opinion, the pillar of budget funding, the pillar of military recruitment, the pillar of international support. The keys are simple.. Build the memberships of our local campaigns. Persuade more voters to demand rapid withdrawal as a condition of their support. Meet and confront military recruiters before they take more of our children. Reach our and form coalitions for a progressive budget. Whatever the candidates say, the war in Iraq cannot be sustained as these pillars - voter support, infinite funding, ample troops and reserves - continue to crumble and fall. As the costs, including the costs of protest and a persistent public opinion, finally outweigh the perceived benefits, I believe the cold and rational elements of the establishment will decide to cut their losses.
Big donors - those who contribute many millions to the so-called 527 independent issue committees - can make a huge difference in ending the war this time instead of avoiding the issue as they did in 2004. This year the independent committees can fund television, radio, and grass-roots campaigns to force the issue in targeted precincts all across the country. There is the potential of having the best-funded peace movement in our history.
A peace movement that can make a real difference by door-knocking and phone calls to impact close elections, protests against recruiters trying to take our children, and building coalitions with all the groups like teachers and health care workers whose needs are ignored by the $200 million per day that goes to war.
A peace movement that not only demands but deserves an alliance with environmentalists because the center of the fight against global warming is the war over the oil fields of the Middle East.
A peace movement that demands and deserves an alliance with labor and consumers because the center of the fight for fair trade and against corporate privatization is Iraq where all government protections are being stripped away before the coming of the US and British oil companies.
A peace movement that demands and deserves the support of all believers in democracy because the makers of war and the National Security State are the greatest threat to our civil liberties today.
And finally, a peace movement that encourages the lessons of this war in order to prevent future undemocratic aggressions whether in the Middle East or Venezuela.
Iraq is the focal point for confronting the great issues of our future. The fight is on. As Bobby Sands, the Irish hunger striker used to say, everyone has a part to play, and our reward will be seen in the smiles of the children.
Tom Hayden is a former state senator and leader of Sixties peace, justice and environmental movements. He currently teaches at Pitzer College in Los Angeles. His books include The Port Huron Statement [new edition], Street Wars and The Zapatista Reader.


49 Comments so far
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tom you demonstrate a decent intellectual understanding of the conflict
good for you
your notion of waiting until 2009 is morally bankrupt.
i remember a time when you had no fear of putting yourself in harm's way to stand up for right.
that was a long time ago
you are not fit to lead going forward.
we need new leaders. not tom or nader. they keep making a thousand times made case for what - the thousand and first time
you forgot tom that leaders lead - they don't make a case for action and then prescribe a good wait as your course of action.
to say nothing of the thousand or so americans who will be dead by then (and that is if all goes well) and the tens of thousands of iraqis.
oh and by the way, while you are playing with your balls, i presume that is what you will be doing to kill time while you wait, bush could really make moot your point by attacking iran in the meantime, couldn't he.
by your logic then we will have to wait until 2019 until that could be responded to.
tom - go home. you're taking up much needed bandwidth that ought to be, in this dark hour, reserved for real leaders who have more than "a good wait" to offer as a plan going forward.
"I interviewed former CIA director John Deutch about a rational exit plan"
This is like interviewing Himmler about a rational shutting down of the SS & a closing of the camps.
Withdrawal from Iraq would not force the US to withdraw from its 700 other bases in 100+ countries around the world.
The pratical electoral suggestions are welcome, but no 'shift' will take place until the empire is rejected everywhere and forced out from all its entrenchments; because most of those in the Pelosicrat party, even those who oppose Pelosi, only want withdrawal in order to bolster imperial power once more.
Superb. Thank you, Tom.
Long live the transformation!
Why wait until 2009 why not end it today?
"Everyone has a part to play, and our reward will be seen in the smiles of the children.
Whatever, just so long as those who have already died did not die in vain, and of course, them arabs can't claim they whipped us.
I wonder, there wouldn't be something we could do in the history books or with a change in our national "defense" policy so that we would not have to keep killing young Arab men and our men until there are none of one of the two groups left would there?
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SEPTEMBER 15
Mass March in Washington DC!
Gather at 12 noon at the White House
It is all just endless mind fu'k, except of course for all the dead bodies, wrecked human families, and the destroyed country.
But don't forget, we did get rid of Sadam, and everyone agrees, that is a good thing.
Like dcbeltway says, "Why wait until 2009...?"
But then, Tom Hayden is a Democrat and Democrats are by nature very patient.Remember,they 1st proposed National Health Insurance in 1948.
So once again folks, be patient, understand the Dems have a tough job, remember how bad the Repubs are, give Pelosi and Reid a chance and someday, if not now, then surely very soon, the Dems will represent us.
Tom, you had important things to say...in 1968. Right now you list a long string of "successes" that point toward a possible end of the war in 2009!!!! And of course, you mean the new DEMOCRATIC administration in 2009. Remember Tom, we voted for DEMS in 2006 and NOTHING CHANGED. Why should we expect anything to change, fundamentally, if Hillary is elected?
Tom, stop drinking the Kool-Aid long enough and you might get a hint as to just how wide and deep that disgust and loathing exists for the Democratic Party on the left. If you do you might have some important things to say once again.
It would be a step in the right direction to no longer refer to the invasion and occupation of Iraq as a "war".
IT IS A WAR CRIME SUPPORTED BY BOTH PARTIES !
Nearly one million innocent Iraqis have died.
The correct language must be used as labels can be obscure the "truth".
And above all, never repeat the White House and Congressional mantra, "support the troops". They are engaged in war crimes.
dcbeltway September 8th, 2007 1:51 pm
"Why wait until 2009 why not end it today?"
Visible Military presence in Iraq Could occur immediately, followed by strategic withdrawal over months, removal of bases over 12 months, then full reparations for damage against Iraq Nation and reconstruction of damaged infrastructure....Nuremburg style trials for War Criminals and Impeachment of BushCo.....
Errr...Just a minute I must have been daydreaming....
"But don't forget, we did get rid of Sadam, and everyone agrees, that is a good thing."
Except the majority of the Iraqis.
"And above all, never repeat the White House and Congressional mantra, "support the troops". They are engaged in war crimes."
Yes. Read "The Deserter's Tale" by Joshua Key.
Divide and Conquer?
Do you mean here, or in Iraq?
Take your choice!
How about both?
Mission accomplished!
What to do next?
Let it rip! Let the seeds of destruction, finally, bare fruit.
It may be the only humanly responsible choice left. Doesn't medicare pay for aversion therapy?
I haven't seen Germany or Japan threatening to rule the world recently.
When blood-lust runs it's course, everyone feels drained, and very peaceful.
Let's get to work, Iran tomorrow, then on towards Pakistan.
Work will set us free!
"But don't forget, we did get rid of Sadam, and everyone agrees, that is a good thing"
not all joneden
not me
ken
Excuses or rationalisations will be found for many more wars by USA unless and until fellow Americans and our leaders learn the lessons of "less is Good" as a counter to the ideology of "More is Better".
We all know that the hoped for equilibrium can only come when other people stand up to us and fight us to a standstill. And this needs lots of blood, patience and money. The equilibrium will come when WE run out of one or more of the above three elements simply because we are the strongest on Planet Earth.
But don't forget, we aided and abetted Saddam through the 80s, our man in Iraq. which was a very bad thing!
The only thing necessary for the persistence of evil is for enough good people to do nothing.
The problems inside the so-called iraqi goverment proves you can't force democracy on a country. Democracy has to be backed by security, civil rights, working economic markets, but most of all security. The sad part is that we have not provided security with our overwhelming millitary might. Yes Sadaam was a mass murderer, but tragically we have made the situation worse. The president wants the Iraqi army to stand up so that we can stand down. My question is "when are the good people going to stand up so that the neo-con forces in our government can stand down".
Tom Hayden
Americans are not stupid. They know the war in Iraq is about oil and they need the oil badly. They will not try alternatives to oil, when they can get it by waging wars. After all, to Americans war is entertainment.
Commondreamers, get used to the entertainment.
"we aided and abetted Saddam through the 80s, our man in Iraq"
I know an old lady who swallowed a fly . . .
We ousted Mossadegh to set up the Shah, we set up Saddam to counter Iran, we attacked Iraq to get the at jihad, we set up jihad to fight the Russians, I don't know why we'll bomb Iran, perhaps we're damned . . .
"Bobby Sands, the Irish hunger striker"
Harharharhaharhar!!!
You mean, Bobby Sands, the IRA gunman and bomber?
Harharharharharhar!!!
So Tom Hayden is hoping for "a peace movement that can make a real difference by door-knocking" and he tags the story with a quote from Bobby Sands!
Knock on the door and whoever answers...
Shoot them in the face!
"Our reward will be seen in the smiles of the children."
Harharharharharharhar!!!
Knock knock.
Who's there?
Tom Hayden, with a message from Bobby Sands!
That would open a lot of doors in Belfast!
I'll say a prayer for the soul of Bobby Sands and all others who died in the Troubles, and I hope it's a hundred years before the internet throws up another fatuous reference to any of them.
chickoo-Most Americans are against the war and want a withdrawal.
Thank God Tom Hayden actually does some heavy lifting and provides an analysis that we can use to chart actions. Coming up with a strategic plan is different from simply denouncing imperialism and relying on hot air. It's the difference between organizing ourselves for a fight in the real world and believing that being 'right' means anything.
Thoreau,writing about an earlier war crime - the Mexican War - in Civil Disobedience: "How can a man be satisfied to entertain an opinion merely, and enjoy it? Is there any enjoyment in it, if his opinion is that he is aggrieved?"
McDee;
I suggest Tom (and a few others) START drinking the kool-aid again. In fact, in the days when everyone was using psychedelics, it was easier for people to see just how completely stupid this 'model' of modern life is AND they did a lot more speaking up, protesting, etc.
Unfortunately, the Gov's got the guns and isn't afraid to use them. However, I would rather die seeing and speaking the truth than live in illusion - which brings me to joneden's post; the entire mid-east debacle is one huge lie, a tremendous illusion and therefore, all of the brave soldiers who have died there have, in fact, died in vain. So terribly sad. Yeah, I said it, somebody had to.
P.S. I remember reading an interview with Grace Slick, who had attended school with Nixon's daughter (I believe that was the connection) and was therefore 'automatically' sent an invitation to a party at the White House. Unfortunately, the White House staff did their checking and removed her from the invitation list. In recounting the story, Ms. Slick said that it may have been for the best to be removed from the list because she was planning on attending with Abbie Hoffman and they planned to put LSD into the punch or coffe or whatever they could. Too bad.
The war in Iraq will end when the depression and anarchy begins here in America. The most recent estimate, that from a highly regarded Wall Street money shaker, "Our depression will commense within the next 90 to 120 days". If you are not prepared for it, you won't have time to prepare once it hits.
I would like to add something to my previous post, due to the importance of clarity and the seriousness of the topic; If the debacle in Iraq is the last, the war to end all wars, then, perhaps, lives lost will not have been in vain. And remember this - a death in vain does not a lesser life create.
What I read is that 80% or so of the Iraquis want the occupying forces to leave their country. I also read (on the internet, not in the MSM or, actually, in Hayden's article) that leading Iraquis of all stripes have met together with international facilitators to draw up a plan for peace (Number 5 of 12 is the withdrawal of the occupiers). Democracy anyone?
I am surprised to hear Republicans talking about honor associated with the unjust war. There is no honor in what we have done and are doing in Iraq. Where is the honor in torture, mass murders of civilians and a war based on flasehoods? There can be no honor in fighting or winning this illegal war.
In the Continental Congress in 1775, Ben Franklin warned against the idea of having one man in charge of the executive branch of government. He felt a council of three men was safer to guard the freedoms and liberties of the people.
Despite this sage advice he was overidden by the majority of colonial reprentatives.
Now we know what he was worried about. A Bushmonkey, setting himself up as King, destroying the very country we love, for the simple minded reason of shear profit. Money!
We can't have another year like this. We have to drag him out, kicking and screaming.
There is no other way.
pacplyer
Sept 11th! Don't Buy anything! Miss your mortgage payment. Force the market to shutter! It's the only thing Bush's Fortune-500 masters will respond to!
I am glad Tom Hayden finds inspiring indications of the peace movement's success. Perhaps he should come to North Carolina, if he is willing to get a little depressed. Not that this is some sort of uniformly conservative 'red state'. I live in an area (Raleigh Durham) that has some of the character of Seattle or Austin or other bastions of progressivism. Yet while I (and many others) listen to Democracy Now! every day, I see little indication of a peace movement. Our statewide coalition has gone dormant. We get emails from the various national coalitions, but I've never seen any come to the state and try to spark organizing.
In the eighties, I was involved with CISPES. We were organizing around El Salvador, an issue so remote in American consciousness that most people outside of CISPES seemed confused as to whether the US government supported the rebels or the government. Yet we had a movement. We were constantly meeting and doing stuff, and drawing in new members. The national organization was oriented towards training and supporting new organizers. It was qualitatively different than the current non-existent peace movement, with its once a year get togethers in DC (this fall being held on three different dates, for your convenience!). We need to rebuild the peace movement, as a grassroots movement committed to diverse tactics to end the war. Not dream that big donors are going to bail us out.
The war\occupation can be ended earlier by putting pressure on the Democrats. The key is enough people letting them know that their support of the war can not be tolerated, and that anyone who favors ending this occupation now will not vote Democrat in 2008.
When that happens, the Democrats will be staring into a massive defeat in 2008. And the one thing that focuses the mind wonderfully of our modern, corrupt politicians is defeat. Thus, a strong shift in the political environment away from the Democrats and into campaigns that are known to be antiwar(as opposed to Democrats which only talk antiwar then vote prowar), that would cause political movement before Hayden's 2009 date.
If all the antiwar voters were to abandon the Democrats, the Democrats would start moving very fast to end the war before the 2008 elections. It would be the Democrats only hope of political survival at that point.
Unfortunately, I think Mr. Hayden is more correct in thinking we are stuck with this awful slaughter until 2009. That's because there are too many voters who follow the Democrats like stupid sheep, and who continue to vote for a pro-war, pro-corporate Democratic party that really doesn't represent their views at all.
But, if those voters would wake up and abandon the Democrats in droves today, change their regisrations to leave the Democratic party, start setting up and working for strong antiwar campaigns today, then that would shake the Democratic party to its core and force an end to this war before the next election day.
I am surprised to hear Republicans talking about honor associated with the unjust war. There is no honor in what we have done and are doing in Iraq. Where is the honor in torture, mass murders of civilians and a war based on flasehoods?
Tom, if you are seriously listening to forked tongue monster, John Deutch, for wisdom and then writing to us about it, I accuse you of outright stupidity.
TOM, YOUR WORDS ARE VERY NICE -- but -- YOU ARE TRULY DILLUSIONAL IF YOU THINK IT IS OK TO WAIT UNTIL 2009 TO WITHDRAW. ALSO, DID I MISS SOME MENTION OF REPARATIONS AND AN APOLOGY?
"I interviewed former CIA director John Deutch about a rational exit plan, and he stressed two essentials: [1] that the US has to decide to withdraw, which it has not, and [2] he stressed diplomacy with Iran, which he called the only country that could cause trouble during our withdrawal. He was implying negotiations with Iran to obtain what Richard Nixon once called a "decent interval" for the US to leave Vietnam."
(1) We do not have a draft because of people like Tom. He deserves credit for that. I agree with his analysis of the internet character of the modern peace movement because of the repeal of the draft.
(2) There is no 'decent interval' in Iraq that will look anything like Vietnam. In the latter, there was an organized competent opposition willing and able to take over Vietnam- The Vietnamese Communist Party, which today still governs the country. There is no organized competent political party single handedly able to govern Iraq by dictate from Baghdad. There are plural political parties, and we are going to have to come to grips with history and political science in regards to political revolutions with this many viable political parties. We need to stabilize the local, decentralize the state, and allow economic integration grow naturally, not artificially, from political integration. We need to be as against genocide in Iraq as we are against funding the war. Single Transferable Voting would probably be the best mechanism for bringing Iraqis together, (as well as enabling third parties to compete in this country), but unless we can keep a refrigerator running 24 hours at a given scale, we probably won't be able to pull of elections at that same scale.
"We should call for a shift from warmaking to peacemaking through a diplomatic offensive, declaring a firm intention to withdraw all American troops and bases on a one-year timetable, which would create an immediate incentive for engagement on the part of Iran, Syria, the Arab League, the Europeans, Russians and Chinese, the UN. No one has an interest in joining the US in the occupation; everyone has a interest in minimizing a power vacuum as we leave. "
Who has an interest in minimizing a power vacuum? This is intellectual masturbation. We have to take responsibility for (1) demolishing Iraq, the genocide that has occurred because of that demolition, and (2)the actions of Americans on Iraqi soil, including the decisions of our (albeit the other half elected) president. I can't imagine what Iraqis, especially the scale minorities, (many of whom were favored by the Hussein regime), would think if we simply took up and left them to their American-made holocaust. It's sickening to me personally that many good people on the left are standing by and making this argument that somehow the United Nations or some other benevolent force, (Iran? :)), will step in. What happened in Darfur?
"All this is against current law, the Leahy Amendment of 1997 which expressly forbids US military assistance to governments or security forces that are known to be human rights violators. Why is this provision being ignored?"
Continuing to train Iraqis and disbursing arms to them is not to further the war, (even if it does), but to legitimately counter the flow of arms already made available by the Hussein regime and coming in from Iraq's borders. The bottom line is that Iraqis deserve the right to defend themselves. What should we do, make them buy all their guns from Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, the Baath Party of Iraq (newly relocated to Syria), Iran? In case you haven't noticed, the police are probably not going to come and get an Iraqi militia off your ass, because that's how you're going out....Maybe you can, but I can't blame the US Army for giving some guy a gun to protect his house. The US Army probably isn't going to protect his house. And who else is he going to get a gun from? You have to come to grips with the fact there is no 'rule of law' (beyond a corps of well-intentioned JAG officers helping Iraqi 'courts') and if Darfur is any guide, the notion of blue-helmeted troops coming in and providing one is a pipe dream.
HAYDEN is being completely theoretical while facts suggest: 1. there is no discernible difference between both parties when it comes to prostituting themselves for military-industrial complex campaign "contributions." 2. There ARE permanent bases being built in Iraq not for the reason of leaving 3. The whole pretense to wanting democracy and self-governance by the Iraqi people (we'll stand down when they stand up and all that SHIT) is about as convincing as fighting "them" over there, so we don't have to contront them over here, or ridding the world of terrorism by adapting its own means, etc ad infinitim. Remember friends, this whole political farce is war by photo op, government by smoke and mirrors, and truth WAS its first casualty...
COMarc/
I 100% agree with you
A vote for the Democrap = a vote for extending the occupation.
I'm really surprised you think we need to wait until 2009 before pulling out of the country we illegally invaded, and occupy. The United States destroyed cities, towns, farms, orchards, plus...murdering, torturing, raping, and stealing from the Iraqi people. Each day we spend in Iraq is another day of continued war crimes. And for the most part, the henchmen of this morally corrupt government usually go unpunished, commensurate with the crimes against the citizens of that country.
About a year and a half or so ago, you had written another article on Common Dreams about a withdrawal within a year. If the government listened to you then, the 'troops' (that ubiquitous supply of cannon fodder for the ruling class) would all be home now. Since then, the deranged delinquent ordered 30,000(?) more troops to Iraq. So, I ask you, why 2009?
You have listed some notable anti-war, pro peace items, but the movement is fragmented unlike the Vietnam era. Why do you think the military pays big bucks as an enticement to enlist or reenlist?
War is 'gangsterism on a national level' and the sooner people here and abroad understand why wars are started and who profits from them, they may decline the invitation to participate. I like the saying, "kill one person, it's murder, kill thousands, it's foreign policy".
This two-party system is a one-party system and gives unknowing people the illusion of differences. Feinstein and Boxer are Bush 'enablers, and you know it. And other Democrats backed the Texan as well.
Tom, you have had my respect and admiration since the early 60's during the civil rights movement and in Chicago back in 68, and ever since. I voted for you in state-wide races here in California and always backed your progressive ideas. But on this time-table issue, I strongly disagree. TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ NOW! Redeploy them back to the United States.
McDee, evemts do not take place in a vaccum. There is ebb and flow, and Hayden smartly looks at how to make for a stronger flow. Too often those on the left isolate themselves from the politcal realities. Of course, no one likes the current state, but acting as if it doesn't exist is a fruitless endeavor. Hayden is speaking about building a movement, one that applies more and more pressure until the warmongers and moneychangers have to pack up their wares and succumb. We don't like the time involved in process, but we have to be practical and realistic. We must not let frustration immobilize us, nor should we let it move us outside the arena where this "movmement" must take place. Keep one another strong and forward looking. We must all support one another and keep working for our shared goal.
Another facet, Saddam did NOT pose a threat to the US. This is Deadeye and W's "war." Neither knows anything about military action. We are not there to win a war, we are there to take over their massive oil reserves, i.e, money and power. As far as I see it, W is as bad as any other dictator who thinks he is above the law. Don't you find it extremely ODD that Osama appears every time W doesn't seem to get his way? Perhaps he is for real to scare our country about terrorism to help Bush, but also to remind us what idiots we are to keep handing money hand over fist to the morons; whatever, he and his merry little band is forcing us to waste billions of dollars EVERYDAY!!! What better way to take down a world power than draining it dry on scare tactics? The one person who had most to gain from 9/11 is one of our very own. He never succeeded in ANY job he has had, so what makes the below average IQ of citizens mean anything. It does mean NOTHING! Georgie, as Mommy Dearest calls him is a loser and a spoiled brat who always gets his way, right or wrong. I have NO problem going after binLaden, but preemptive war on Iraq was totally uncalled for. I fear the day is approaching that we will wish we had not toppled Saddam. After all, he and W both like to get innocent people killed. Get the hell our of Iraq yesterday and hunt down bin Laden and take care of the situation as it should be, by bringing our troops home yesterday. Our military is not taught to fight guerilla style and they cannot win without it. Get bin Laden and leave the other countries alone; use diplomacy. The Middle East has always been explosive and we do not understand their mentality and never will. Let our troops come home from Iraq and take care of our border problems and just possibly, the terrorist threat will take care of itself over time. If it takes scorched earth to find bin Laden, do it. Otherwise, he will taunt us continuously; he has already destroyed thousands of lives and is promptly emptying our treasury to keep us safe thru Iraqi war. Will not work; they have already won--look how much money we spend every day! Very common Bush ploy, father and son; Daddy left the Somalia situation for Clinton. Did not deter him; he left us a surplus, a good economy, and W leaves us mayhem, death, maiming, and economic downfall. Need I say more?
A world-wide boycott of exxon/mobil starting NOW.
Help find new jobs for the gas station folks.
Boycott until Bankrupt. BOYCOTT TIL BANKRUPT!!
NOW!!
Kem Patrick, or anyone, where did this quote come from:
"Our depression will commense within the next 90 to 120 days".
Just curious. BMA/Texas
ummm.... I agree with mikee and Tom among others, that IT IS A PROCESS!!!
"Coming up with a strategic plan is different from simply denouncing imperialism and relying on hot air"
Protecting ourselves requires constant vigalence. I am grateful to those who post articles and comments here that list possible steps, and I am SICK AND TIRED of those who say "I can't listen to your suggestion because it won't happen immediatley"
You need an army to fight these grand problems, and we have one! but logistics in this army is just as involved as logistics in our military. Is there a magic word that will get everyone fighting together right this instant?
BUY MORE AMMO, It was on CNBC Saturday, the Glenn Beck program. He was interviewing a guy who is a big time Wall Street financier. I do not remember his name, he wasn't one of the regular wizads we usually see. Beck asked him if he thought we would have a recession in the near future and the guy very calmy replied with, "No, we are going to have a depression within three or four months."
You know, Beck always fires right back with a comment, that one shut him up, for about six seconds you could hear a pin drop. It stunned him. Then Beck asked what would the signs be that we were close to a depression and the fella again very calmly replied with, "You are already seeing them." Then he gave several examples, the two largest financial home mortgage lending outfits just declared bankrupsy, the stock market acting out 1929 to a tee,... etc. It's coming, our county is flat ass broke and Bush did it.
Half of the people with a home mortgage are three months behind in their mortgage payments. The federal reserve has just pumped a few billion into the stock market to keep it afloat, it's Peter paying Paul and it will fall.
Some of you liberals really crack me up.You talk about how Cheney and Bush are gen-yoo-wine fascists (which they are) on the one hand and then expect them to knuckle under to a slight democratic majority in the next breath.It's my understanding that Fascists are kind of notorious for their contempt of democracy.
They have destroyed the free press and the constitution, created a gulag,and stolen elections.They slap around generals like little girls and ruin people like Colin Powell and Valerie Plame just for sport.
The administration and the media are determined to frame this "war" in WWII terms.Okay,so be it.The congressional elections of 2006 were the landing on Omaha Beach, not the taking of Berlin. This is a political war against the Neo-cons and their Republican *collaborators*.
They are in possession of the pentagon, the military, the Supreme Court,the media,
wall street,the justice department,and the election apparatus.
The Democratic Party isn't much of an army, but it's the only one we've got.Keep in mind that politicians harvest votes for a living.To disregard 60-70% of the voters,they are obviously being threatened with something terrible by the fascists in power.
Ultimately, it is We the People through our cowardice, indifference and laziness who are responsible for the sorry state we find ourselves in. We have allowed our military--our friends and neighbors-- to be sucked into an insane Oil War/Religious Crusade that cannot be "won" because the oil isn't ours and the religion isn't wanted.The fact that this isn't a free country any more means that the fight will be long and hard.
And because the Neo-cons and their collaborators will tell any lie (it is part of their creed that lying to an enemy isn't lying, it's trickery)and destroy any dissenter, it will be messy.
There is only one way the US will EVER be able to pull out of Iraq without leaving Iran and Syria running it. They will have to fullfil EVERY SINGLE promise they have made AND defend each and every human right the UN has ever declared.
That means
1. A funtional public infrastructure. Meaning water, electricity, health, education, security (aka justice, which could take oh, maybe a decade or two alone. Considering that the only folk commiting war crimes in Iraq are American and their allies. The rest are Iraqi and are breaking their own criminal laws.)
2. An independent government. Something ABSOLUTLY unheard of to the US State Department. And total anathema to the CIA.
3. A functional and just civil society.
etc etc etc...
And they will have to do this not from the stage of a nation in the middle of a reign of terror, or of one in the middle of compelte economic and social collapse (both stages Iraq has gone through directly because of the US) but from this... hell on earth the USA continues to create just by being there. I mean we`re talking about cholera epidemics in a nation that 20 years ago had a per capita GDP as high as that in some western european nations. And absolutly EVERYTHING that has been destroying that nation, STARTING with Saddam Hussein has been directly caused by the USA.
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There is nothing (because let`s face it, no one is running the USA) in the USA with enough power to even begin to turn around the way this `war` is being run. And nothing is particularly intresed in doing so in the first place. Tonnes of people are intrested but you see, people get shot and die. I`m sorry, I meant treasonous protesters get shot and die, unfortunatly, by their own fault.
Sell your house while it`s still worth more then the planks it`s made of and buy something in Sweden, or Singapore or Tunisia if you like decent weather.
You have a Government which defrauded the American people to gain power.....not once, but twice. You are entitled to remove it...........
"A TIME FOR HEROES"
Words by Roger Antony Carter
Music by Barry David Butler
(c) 2006 All Rights Reserved
Intro
Are they about, well give 'em a shout
If you know one or two, and surely you do
The hour has arrived, and if we're to survive
To survive
Dark forces move about
In the Land Of The Free
Who will be on hand
To save our destiny
This is a time for heroes
A time for men of steel
This is a time for heroes
Men...who are real
(Repeat Chorus)
History has placed its call
Why can't they hear
Will they get here in time
When will they appear
Dark forces, they march on
Threatening liberty
We cannot let them win
Or rule by decree
(Repeat Chorus)
Dark forces move about
In the land of the free
Who will be on hand
To save our destiny
This is a time for heroes
A time for men of steel
This is a time for heroes
Men...who are real
(Repeat Chorus)
2009?
2007!
Write, email & fax your Representative in the House and your two Senators and DEMAND the simultaneous impeachment of Bush and Cheney NOW.
That's the fastest way to end the war.
Thanks for your words, dustinchicago.
Thinking about the process. We are seeing the breakdown of the existing political process, where the political establishment is unable/unwilling to act on the strong desire of the majority.
If this goes on, there will be three possible paths:
1. The establishment reforms itself to coopt our radical demands.
2. There is a new arrangement based on a version of fascism.
3. There is a revolutionary re-adjustment.
We should push for reform with an eye on revolutionary change.
To do this we need to build a 'dual power'. The 'Committees of Correspondence' during the US revolution, the 'Sections' during the French revolution, the 'Soviets' during the Russian revolution are examples of grassroots structures built by the people to push for reform, and that grew beyond themselves to become revolutionary centers of power.
Are there embryos today that could become centers of 'dual power'? The hundreds of regular street vigils are places where activists meet and strategize, they could become rallying points - this happened in Argentina during their economic collapse.
Here in rural Oregon, we have created a network of 'human dignity groups' in small towns across the state. These groups have been around for over ten years, begun to fight the Christian right's anti-gay ballot measures. Today they are centers for anti-war organizing, electoral politics, grassroots human rights advocacy. At their simplest, human dignity groups consist of a group of friends, neighbors who meet regularly to do local activism. There is usually a steering committee, a data base of local supporters, modest bank accounts, websites sometimes. The human dignity groups around the state are coordinated/and/or assisted by three staff people forming the Rural Organizing Project. Check out www.rop.org
Creating peace committees in every neighborhood we can, or every town with five activist friends, is something that can be done right now, no matter what Congress says.