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Bush Knew Saddam Had No Weapons of Mass Destruction
On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam's inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.
Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.
On April 23, 2006, CBS's "60 Minutes" interviewed Tyler Drumheller, the former CIA chief of clandestine operations for Europe, who disclosed that the agency had received documentary intelligence from Naji Sabri, Saddam's foreign minister, that Saddam did not have WMD. "We continued to validate him the whole way through," said Drumheller. "The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming, and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy."
Now two former senior CIA officers have confirmed Drumheller's account to me and provided the background to the story of how the information that might have stopped the invasion of Iraq was twisted in order to justify it. They described what Tenet said to Bush about the lack of WMD, and how Bush responded, and noted that Tenet never shared Sabri's intelligence with then Secretary of State Colin Powell. According to the former officers, the intelligence was also never shared with the senior military planning the invasion, which required U.S. soldiers to receive medical shots against the ill effects of WMD and to wear protective uniforms in the desert.
Instead, said the former officials, the information was distorted in a report written to fit the preconception that Saddam did have WMD programs. That false and restructured report was passed to Richard Dearlove, chief of the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), who briefed Prime Minister Tony Blair on it as validation of the cause for war.
Secretary of State Powell, in preparation for his presentation of evidence of Saddam's WMD to the United Nations Security Council on Feb. 5, 2003, spent days at CIA headquarters in Langley, Va., and had Tenet sit directly behind him as a sign of credibility. But Tenet, according to the sources, never told Powell about existing intelligence that there were no WMD, and Powell's speech was later revealed to be a series of falsehoods.
Both the French intelligence service and the CIA paid Sabri hundreds of thousands of dollars (at least $200,000 in the case of the CIA) to give them documents on Saddam's WMD programs. "The information detailed that Saddam may have wished to have a program, that his engineers had told him they could build a nuclear weapon within two years if they had fissible material, which they didn't, and that they had no chemical or biological weapons," one of the former CIA officers told me.
On the eve of Sabri's appearance at the United Nations in September 2002 to present Saddam's case, the officer in charge of this operation met in New York with a "cutout" who had debriefed Sabri for the CIA. Then the officer flew to Washington, where he met with CIA deputy director John McLaughlin, who was "excited" about the report. Nonetheless, McLaughlin expressed his reservations. He said that Sabri's information was at odds with "our best source." That source was code-named "Curveball," later exposed as a fabricator, con man and former Iraqi taxi driver posing as a chemical engineer.
The next day, Sept. 18, Tenet briefed Bush on Sabri. "Tenet told me he briefed the president personally," said one of the former CIA officers. According to Tenet, Bush's response was to call the information "the same old thing." Bush insisted it was simply what Saddam wanted him to think. "The president had no interest in the intelligence," said the CIA officer. The other officer said, "Bush didn't give a fuck about the intelligence. He had his mind made up."
But the CIA officers working on the Sabri case kept collecting information. "We checked on everything he told us." French intelligence eavesdropped on his telephone conversations and shared them with the CIA. These taps "validated" Sabri's claims, according to one of the CIA officers. The officers brought this material to the attention of the newly formed Iraqi Operations Group within the CIA. But those in charge of the IOG were on a mission to prove that Saddam did have WMD and would not give credit to anything that came from the French. "They kept saying the French were trying to undermine the war," said one of the CIA officers.
The officers continued to insist on the significance of Sabri's information, but one of Tenet's deputies told them, "You haven't figured this out yet. This isn't about intelligence. It's about regime change."
The CIA officers on the case awaited the report they had submitted on Sabri to be circulated back to them, but they never received it. They learned later that a new report had been written. "It was written by someone in the agency, but unclear who or where, it was so tightly controlled. They knew what would please the White House. They knew what the king wanted," one of the officers told me.
That report contained a false preamble stating that Saddam was "aggressively and covertly developing" nuclear weapons and that he already possessed chemical and biological weapons. "Totally out of whack," said one of the CIA officers. "The first [para]graph of an intelligence report is the most important and most read and colors the rest of the report." He pointed out that the case officer who wrote the initial report had not written the preamble and the new memo. "That's not what the original memo said."
The report with the misleading introduction was given to Dearlove of MI6, who briefed the prime minister. "They were given a scaled-down version of the report," said one of the CIA officers. "It was a summary given for liaison, with the sourcing taken out. They showed the British the statement Saddam was pursuing an aggressive program, and rewrote the report to attempt to support that statement. It was insidious. Blair bought it." "Blair was duped," said the other CIA officer. "He was shown the altered report."
The information provided by Sabri was considered so sensitive that it was never shown to those who assembled the NIE on Iraqi WMD. Later revealed to be utterly wrong, the NIE read: "We judge that Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions; if left unchecked, it probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade."
In the congressional debate over the Authorization for the Use of Military Force, even those voting against it gave credence to the notion that Saddam possessed WMD. Even a leading opponent such as Sen. Bob Graham, then the Democratic chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who had instigated the production of the NIE, declared in his floor speech on Oct. 12, 2002, "Saddam Hussein's regime has chemical and biological weapons and is trying to get nuclear capacity." Not a single senator contested otherwise. None of them had an inkling of the Sabri intelligence.
The CIA officers assigned to Sabri still argued within the agency that his information must be taken seriously, but instead the administration preferred to rely on Curveball. Drumheller learned from the German intelligence service that held Curveball that it considered him and his claims about WMD to be highly unreliable. But the CIA's Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation, and Arms Control Center (WINPAC) insisted that Curveball was credible because what he said was supposedly congruent with available public information.
For two months, Drumheller fought against the use of Curveball, raising the red flag that he was likely a fraud, as he turned out to be. "Oh, my! I hope that's not true," said Deputy Director McLaughlin, according to Drumheller's book "On the Brink," published in 2006. When Curveball's information was put into Bush's Jan. 28, 2003, State of the Union address, McLaughlin and Tenet allowed it to pass into the speech. "From three Iraqi defectors," Bush declared, "we know that Iraq, in the late 1990s, had several mobile biological weapons labs ... Saddam Hussein has not disclosed these facilities. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed them." In fact, there was only one Iraqi source -- Curveball -- and there were no labs.
When the mobile weapons labs were inserted into the draft of Powell's United Nations speech, Drumheller strongly objected again and believed that the error had been removed. He was shocked watching Powell's speech. "We have firsthand descriptions of biological weapons factories on wheels and on rails," Powell announced. Without the reference to the mobile weapons labs, there was no image of a threat.
Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell's chief of staff, and Powell himself later lamented that they had not been warned about Curveball. And McLaughlin told the Washington Post in 2006, "If someone had made these doubts clear to me, I would not have permitted the reporting to be used in Secretary Powell's speech." But, in fact, Drumheller's caution was ignored.
As war appeared imminent, the CIA officers on the Sabri case tried to arrange his defection in order to demonstrate that he stood by his information. But he would not leave without bringing out his entire family. "He dithered," said one former CIA officer. And the war came before his escape could be handled.
Tellingly, Sabri's picture was never put on the deck of playing cards of former Saddam officials to be hunted down, a tacit acknowledgment of his covert relationship with the CIA. Today, Sabri lives in Qatar.
In 2005, the Silberman-Robb commission investigating intelligence in the Iraq war failed to interview the case officer directly involved with Sabri; instead its report blamed the entire WMD fiasco on "groupthink" at the CIA. "They didn't want to trace this back to the White House," said the officer.
On Feb. 5, 2004, Tenet delivered a speech at Georgetown University that alluded to Sabri and defended his position on the existence of WMD, which, even then, he contended would still be found. "Several sensitive reports crossed my desk from two sources characterized by our foreign partners as established and reliable," he said. "The first from a source who had direct access to Saddam and his inner circle" -- Naji Sabri -- "said Iraq was not in the possession of a nuclear weapon. However, Iraq was aggressively and covertly developing such a weapon."
Then Tenet claimed with assurance, "The same source said that Iraq was stockpiling chemical weapons." He explained that this intelligence had been central to his belief in the reason for war. "As this information and other sensitive information came across my desk, it solidified and reinforced the judgments that we had reached in my own view of the danger posed by Saddam Hussein and I conveyed this view to our nation's leaders." (Tenet doesn't mention Sabri in his recently published memoir, "At the Center of the Storm.")
But where were the WMD? "Now, I'm sure you're all asking, 'Why haven't we found the weapons?' I've told you the search must continue and it will be difficult."
On Sept. 8, 2006, three Republican senators on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence -- Orrin Hatch, Saxby Chambliss and Pat Roberts -- signed a letter attempting to counter Drumheller's revelation about Sabri on "60 Minutes": "All of the information about this case so far indicates that the information from this source was that Iraq did have WMD programs." The Republicans also quoted Tenet, who had testified before the committee in July 2006 that Drumheller had "mischaracterized" the intelligence. Still, Drumheller stuck to his guns, telling Reuters, "We have differing interpretations, and I think mine's right."
One of the former senior CIA officers told me that despite the certitude of the three Republican senators, the Senate committee never had the original memo on Sabri. "The committee never got that report," he said. "The material was hidden or lost, and because it was a restricted case, a lot of it was done in hard copy. The whole thing was fogged up, like Curveball."
While one Iraqi source told the CIA that there were no WMD, information that was true but distorted to prove the opposite, another Iraqi source was a fabricator whose lies were eagerly embraced. "The real tragedy is that they had a good source that they misused," said one of the former CIA officers. "The fact is there was nothing there, no threat. But Bush wanted to hear what he wanted to hear."
-Sidney Blumenthal
© 2007 Salon.com
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Show AllI suggest Larry Everest's book called Oil, Power, and Empire for a good primer on these subjects.
Now why didn't the CIA debrief members of the Senate/House about this before they gave Bush a green-light for Iraq?
Anyone who could add 2+2 and get 4 knew Iraq had no WMDs in 2002.
The first 2 ...
The UN inspectors that went back to Iraq in fall 2002 had full access and the ability to go anywhere they wanted to go and to check anything. If you don't believe this, their reports back to the UN Security Council where they state this are available on the UN website.
The second 2 ...
If the US or any intelligence agency had a hint as to where these weapons were, had been or had been produced, then they could easily have told this to the UN weapons inspectors, who, since they had unlimitted access in Iraq, could have gone and checked out the site. These inspectors had pretty sophisticated gear that could detect chemical traces or radiation traces left behind by the WMDs.
Add 2+2 together and you get the fact that when the UN inspectors were there for months and couldn't find a shred of evidence that there were WMDs, then this means that the 'intelligence' saying Iraq had them was at best very questionable ... if not an obvious outright lie. And it certainly meant there was no immediate threat to the US or Europe or anyone else from these weapons that no one could find a hint of.
This is why I laugh so hard every time I hear some Democrat that supported the war try to say it was because they were given bad intel. It was obviously bad intel to anyone who could think and add 2+2 and get the correct answer. Thus its also obvious that the Democrats voted yes to support the war because they really wanted to support the war.
I just got in an argument with a Republican customer of mine last Thursday night about this exact thing. He insisted all the intel pointed to Iraq having WMD's and that Britain also had intel that stated the same. I printed this article to take to work with me tonight, he should enjoy reading it *smile*
COMarc,
I do not believe that the Democrats were or are as bloodthirsty as the Bush/Cheney criminal gang, but instead that they showed themselves to be craven feckless worms. They like their cushy jobs and they were afraid that if they opposed the war then not only would the rightwing echo chamber and its associated crazies beat up on them, but the regular corporate media would subject them to steady fire, AIPAC would hound them, and their opponents in the next election could expect hefty contributions from the oil and defense industries. And they figured so what if a few thousand defenseless Iraqis and a few dozen Americans get killed (a common estimate at the time), the US abandoned any pretense of respecting international law or other nations' sovereignty, and Bush's oil and defense buddies would make out like bandits? It was no skin off their noses.
It showed a cavalier and callous attitude towards governing, rather than bloodlust, and that should be enough to earn our eternal disdain.
It was no mistake!
Google "Rebuilding America's Defenses" a document created by the Project for a New American Century.
It's all been available on the web since 1998 even though the doc. was changed to remove direct quotes by Condoleeza and others in 2003/2004 timeframe.
Isn't it funny that Bush believed Saddam when he told them that he had WMD but refused to believe him when he told Bush and the world that he didn't have any. But as we see now that Bush didn't believe him at that time. Now look what's happened to Iraq and the rest of the world. I believe Bush thinks that it is his job to deliver Jesus to us. Thanks but now thanks.
I can't help but feel extremely irritated with Bush true believers in 2007 saying that there is no evidence that Bush lied or manipulated intel in order to get the invasion the neo cons wanted. I would like to grind a few Republican noses into this article. I'm sure they will go on a true believers in Bush, but it would be a good exercise in demonstrating how utterly shameless they are in their infatuation with the president.
Of course Bush knew. The problem was, the American public didn't know ___ because Bush and his gang lied to us and to congress about the entire situation and corrupted the intelligence reports. Those in power who did suspect, or know the truth, were shut up and the press didn't do their rightful duty. I blame the press more than anyone, other than Bush and cheney, for the entire criminal acts thet led up to what we have now.
Kem:
The more looming question is why the intelligence agenicies didn't inform the relevant Senate/House intelligence committees what the real data suggested. And, if they did inform Congress -- and they still gave Bush the green light -- then we should be blaming Congress. Bush may be insane, but Congress ought to have known better.
So what's the real story here? The CIA serves only Republicans or the Democrats are fully complicit?
Paul good point, but due to the number of intelligence agencies and their mind set of being so secret about any and everything, the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. They still don't.
The entire Iraq operatin from 9-11 to the invasion didn't actually take long; besides, it was being planned prior to 9-11. Also, some agencies directors could have been in cahoots with Rummy and Cheney. They were both involved up to their eyeballs with dissimilation of the intelligence. I believe some in Congress were in the loop and many were suspect of what Bush was reading from his well prepared papers. In adddition, Bush promised to exploit every avenue before starting a war.___ He lied. I don't blame Congress as a whole, some of course were well aware of what was going on, not enough of them were. The press should have known, that's their duty.
SON OF A BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh come on folks the whole country is complicit. I knew Sadam didn't have the weapons and, except that I don't gamble, would have bet money on it. And I'm just an ordinary schmuck in rustbelt USA.
How did I know and why was I so certain?
In '91 we bombed Iraq back to a pre-industrial state in Desert Storm (TM). Then we destroyed his army in the field.
For the twelve years between the wars we sanctioned Iraq into near starvation all the while U.N. weapons inspectors went about the business of locating and destroying plants, munitions, and feedstocks. Not even known to me at the time was the full extent of our continual air operations over Iraq (between the wars) in the "no-fly zones," and that would have been a clincher for sure.
It was my conclusion that Sadam had just enough wiggle room to line his pockets and await the second coming. Though it was within the realm of possibility that he could still produce a limited quantity of chemical weapons, I was fairly certain that biological weapons were not possible due to the staggering destruction visited upon his nation. The claim that he was developing an atomic weapon was laughable if you even know a little of the massive effort it takes to accomplish that.
All of the information I cited above was readily available via the mainstream media. I watched on network TV with horror and trepidation the first war - Desert Storm - and understood the methodical destruction of Iraq's infrastructure. Again, network TV and my local paper always carried stories during the 12 year interlude concerning the activities of U.N. weapons inspectors disabling Sadam's WMD capabilities.
My own eyes and my common sense told me that Bush and his cronies were full of shit. The final proof came upon reading the PNAC document and then hearing Bush outline the initiation of never-ending war in the months leading up to the invasion. I recognized the WMD bullshit for the convenient lie that it was.
Bush knew? Of course he did, and so should anyone else with even a modicum of common sense. Don't give me that b.s. "it's not our fault he lied to us." Those who believed it wanted to be lied to.
I also predicted several years ago on this site that because so many people were involved in this scam that eventualy some would come forward and spill the beans. It is not too late to begin impeachment proceedings.
COMarc is correct.
I remember seeing videos of inspectors getting in their vehicles, driving in one direction, and then suddenly changing direction. The idea was to confuse any Iraqis who might be watching them and trying to guess their destination. The inspectors wanted to make surprise inspections.
NOW will you move for a war crimes / crimes against humanity trial?
Between May and July of 2001, both loyalbushie liars Powell and Rice declared, publicly, on video, that Saddam had NO WMD and that CONTAINMENT (and sanctions killing a half-million children) worked and was still working.
Nothing changed by Sept. 12. Except their tunes. Nearly every country in the world knew Saddam had no WMD, UNSCOM knew, 30 million flooding the streets in protest twice knew. Hillary and the rest of her loyalbushieDems - they, somehow, were "tricked."
Today, nearly half the country still fu*king believes Saddam had WMD and was behind 9/11, and moron Mitt's running around telling his budding cult that we illegally invaded because Saddam DIDN'T LET THE WEAPONS INSPECTORS IN. The good news is Wal-Mart sales are up, so clearly "the people" will continue to get what they pay for - government for the corporations, designed by the corporations, and owned by the corporations,
So whats new? USA lied about Korea,Vietnam,Panama,Granada,Cambodia,Laos,Nicaraqua Chile Iraq ect. It was never about democrecy or saving the people. All was about making profits,In GOD's name wake up Americans You are expendable,study your history, and then tell me you like it this way of life.But you must know if you can't invite JESUS to the next death raid maybe we should not do that.And remember it was never the Arab or Iraq that killed 5,000,000 in those wars. You can be sure billions in profits were made.
Hey dont compare democrats to worms. Worms create topsoil--democrats are useless.
As Kurt Vonnegut said about Vietnam: "It was all about the ammunition business" so it goes with today's war in Iraq. Those with the financial stake in being in the ammunition business just also happen to have a stake in the global energy business. Invading Iraq, for them, was a win-win. Well, more like win-win-win-win-win. Remember they're also the base builders, meal suppliers, transport system and most of all they are the ones within the GOP that insisted we go to war with Iraq (PNAC anyone?). We know the GOP is beholden to Ike's "Military-Industrial Complex" and has been since the ascention of one Ronald Reagan- grandfather GOP liar of today's GOP liars- the de facto grandfather of American fascism. Nixon only dreamed of the the things Reagan, Bush, Clinton (yes CLINTON) and Bush get away with. Like Vince Lawrence I'm just a schmuck in Anytown USA and I knew Saddam didn't have WMD's and, as Osama's ideological OPPOSITE, never gave squat to help "Al-Quaeda" The WMD threat was as much a ruse as Tonkin, magnified however in both the wake of 9/11 and in the fearmongering by Bush and Co. about Saddam's ability to use WMD's here in the USA. The propaganda machine, inspired by 9/11, scared enough so-called americans into approving of the unlawful, aggressive, murderous course in Iraq. I would say to our intrepid author that OF COURSE Bush knew there weren't any WMD's, but moreover he didn't give a shit. His only care was to make the WMD lie and threat big enough for enough stupid (and scared, but we all know it's easier to scare the stupid) people to believe it and to help him start the criminal parade of war in Iraq. The rest is history- The History of Making a Buck off of War....
... ere I saw Elba. Will we get a heroic portrait of George on a Big White Horse crushing humanity ala Napoleon?
Oh poor us, the Bush-Cheney Crime Syndicate lied to us about Iraq. It didn't matter that the weapons inspectors were already in Iraq and requested just a few more weeks to complete their job, Bush kicked them out anyway before they could report to the world that there were no weapons -- so he could have the country attacked.
Never mind that it was a known fact that the weapons inspectors were there doing their job. Bush lied and said Saddam wouldn't let them into Iraq, and no one ever says it's a blatant lie.
I know the American media is a propaganda tool for the imperialists, but come on....one doesn't need to be a rocket scientist to be aware of a few simple facts.
Pretty worrisome that a significant batch of scoundrels in D.C. is willing to use its own troops as sacrificial pawns to serve a lie...
Is there no limit to their lack of scruples?
If the US government had thought that Saddam had the kind of weapons they claimed he had, they would never have put US troops in harm's way.
The very fact that they attacked was to us outside America proof enough that they fully knew that he actually didn't have them (any more).
This information has been available for a long time. Tyler Drumheller, Richard Clarke, the Downing Street Memo, and other sources have all pointed to the same thing. It is useful to know that two former CIA officers have corroborated the story, however.
What is really depressing is that the media haven't paid attention. It's the story of the decade, if you ask me -- the leader of "the free world" takes a nation to war based on known lies -- and nobody seems to think that's important.
Blumenthal's meticulous chronology and Vince Lawrence's post sum up the fall 2002 - spring 2003 run up to the invasion of Iraq situation very nicely.
At that tense time, I personally figured the nuclear and biological weapon claims were fear mongering disinformation, but suspected Saddam might still have some chemical weapons squirrelled away (WMD that he would undoubtedly use upon our troops, if we were damnfool enough to invade). But that's past history.
The point of the above blog discussion seems to be that Bush/Cheney/Rove of course knew their propaganda campaign was based on WMD lies - intelligence "fixed" around the regime change policy, as Dearlove's Downing Street memo later termed it. Maybe a few in the Congress were in fact briefed on the "whole" truth, nuanced footnotes an all.
But the critical factor, as Lawrence and others note, was that far too many in Congress WANTED to be lied to about WMD in the hastily prepared national intelligence estimate that issued in October 2002, because that genuflex to classified intelligence served to convert a politically hazardous public vote on war vs peace into a much easier public vote on war vs peace. Thus justified, the stampede was on.
Five awful years, billions of dollars, and thousands of lives later, I'm willing to cut the Congressional incumbents who voted in favor of the use of military force resolution back then some slack on their true, actual subjective intent. Was Senator Smith genuinely duped? Or was Senator Smith complicit as part of the Bush White House's scam? To me, that exercise in political ass covering, or political mea culpa, is far less important than seizing the waning historical moment left for the Congress to set the substance of the matter straight.
I've preached it before. At the risk of becoming tedious, I'll preach it once again:
Once General Petraeus and ambassador Crocker have had their long awaited moment in the September sun of 2007, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR CONGRESS should be to repeal the 2002 Authorization for Use of Military Force resolution in which a majority of the House and Senate approved the invasion of Iraq.
First things first. Sidney Blumenthal's research is great background for the repeal endeavor. Every single elected Democrat, and every single elected Republican or proclaimed independent who gives a shit about the rule of law or the separation of powers, should immediately sign on to sponsor and support the Robert Byrd/Hillary Clinton bill that's already been introduced to repeal the AUMF.
And since I'm focused on it now, I'll close for now, and follow up later with another entry for those who want more detail why.
Bill from Saginaw
Iraq wasn't attacked because it was a threat, quite the opposite. Saddam had no air force, no navy, aging and outdated armor that was mostly destroyed in Gulf War I. He was a secular dictator who was reviled by the jihadis who called him an infidel. Nevertheless, we Americans were continually fed nightmare scenarios by the dominant media of how Saddam was going to give his non-existant WMD to his terrorist enemies or even wilder fantasies about things like unmanned drone aircraft (also non-existant) which would carry his non-existant WMD to our shores. He was completely contained and could not even impose his rule on the Kurds in the North of Iraq, much less threaten the U.S. What Iraq was, was a big fat piece of low hanging fruit that was too big a temptation for the Neocons to resist.
In addition, in a Newsweek cover story, the lead Iraqi WMD person, Hussein Kamel, declared their WMD materials were dismantled in the early 1990s.
But the article misses the key motive, implying, erroneously that Bush wouldn't believe the denials about WMD. He implies this in the quote at the end with the last eight words: "Bush wanted to hear what he wanted to hear."
But that misses the obvious calculation Bush likely made: the use of the false idea that Iraq had WMD was to justify the invasion. The actual fact of no WMDs led to this obvious motive:
Bush invaded Iraq *because* there *were no* WMDs.
That made them defenseless. And the other motives could be attempted: to control Iraqi oil; to establish force-based "credibility in the region to foster fear, to establish bases; and to project power to invade or destroy Iran and Syria. (As the plan said that was leaked in 2001 to Wesley Clark.)
So they knew going in we'd get there and find no WMD? So the objective was just to get America to go, thinking once we got in we'd never get out? We wouldn't have the courage? They could manipulate us with claims of 'cut and run'? We wouldn't want to admit our mistake (believing them) had cost so many lives? So big oil would have a buttress in the Middle East against some imagined Islamic threat (or other threat, maybe; Russian Oil maybe; Chinese economic growth and demand)? Did 9/11 provide method, motive and opportunity? Did they just imagine Americans were so stupid that they could get away with it?
Have Americans learned anything?
Dreamertoo...The short answer..NO...MOST Americans haven't learned anything. Poll after poll keeps showing that most Americans still believe Saddam had WMDs. I realize the question was rhetorical, but this is the sickening answer to your last question.
Vince Lawrence - nail on the head, my thoughts exactly, etc., etc. The only way one could think that Saddam had those dreaded "WMDs" was if one also believed that fictional characters like Dr. No / Dr. Evil were plausible.
willybill,
The polls don't matter -- this administration is proof of that. So if a large number of Americans still associate 9/11 = Iraq or Iraq = WMD's, it doesn't really matter. They didn't give a rat's ass about Iraq or Kuwait before King George I turned it into a great fight for freedom and liberation, to restore democracy to Kuwait. Oh, I forgot, it's a monarchy in which the majority aren't even citizens...
So, why isn't there a Congressional investigation going on about this? Why aren't members of Congress outraged that they were "misled" by the administration, and therefore inclined to investigate? Isn't it a crime to willingly lie to Congress?
I am exhausted at this point, banging my head against a wall, waiting for an impeachment that will never come. This is such a sad, desperate moment in American history. Our government has nearly completed its collapse. The "American experiment" lasted about 225 years. It's now time for something new. What that is, I do not know. What is sure is that while the change takes place, many people will suffer...from those losing their lives in a country the US invaded unprovoked (not to forget the million Iraqis), to those losing their homes in the mortgage shut down, or losing their lives and livelihoods to global warming. Or their children to contaminated toys. Sorry for this depressing missive. It's just that while all of the candidates are grinning ear to ear promising hope and change, I see little chance for that.
Now that the summer recess is over and the legislative branch of our government is back in session, the top priority of the Senate should be to pass the Robert Byrd/Hillary Clinton sponsored bill to repeal the 2002 Congressional resolution which authorized the use of military force to invade and continue the US military occupation of Iraq.
Simple, straight foward repeal. Period.
This draws the Constitutional line in the sand right where it belongs. If George Bush, Joe Lieberman, John Warner, Mitch McConnell, or anybody else wants to re-authorize the US military mission in Iraq based on today's facts on the ground, then they are cordially invited to do so.
Put your pro-war rationale down in black and white, and let's have debate and a public vote. That's how representative democracy is designed to work, under the checks and balance safeguards of our Constitutional separation of powers.
By reducing the rationale for yet more continued war into writing, those who wish to market and sell the American public their new fall product line (as Andy Card once famously put it) will at least be held to some semblance of truth in advertising. And an historical record is created that sheds light on the question, "What on earth do the Americans think they're doing?", like tragic and shameful record that was created in the fall of 2002.
The Authorization for Use of Miltary Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, PL 107-243, can be read by any concerned citizen by accessing the Federal Code at 116 Stat 1498, 50 USC 1541.
The AUMF as enacted into law by majorities of the US House of Representatives and Senate on October 16, 2002 consists of twenty three (23) separate "Whereas" clauses, stating (and often repeating) fourteen (14) different asserted factual justification(s), finally authorizing President Bush to invade Iraq.
A content analysis of the text of the 2002 AUMF shows the following breakdown of separate, distinct stated reasons for Congress granting its approval to go to war:
16 references to Saddam's prior defiance of the will of the United Nations, and the importance of upholding and enforcing United Nations resolutions
16 references to Saddam possessing chemical, biological, and/or nuclear weapons of mass destruction
11 references to the need to protect the United States from the threat of imminent military attack launched by Iraq
10 references to international terrorism and Saddam's support of international terrorists
8 references to protecting Iraq's Middle East neighbors from military attack by Iraq
5 references to the 9/11 terrorist attack upon the United States
4 references to Saddam's repression of the Iraqi domestic civilian population
3 references to Saddam's previous obstruction of United Nations' weapons inspectors' efforts
2 references to Saddam's 1990 invasion and occupation of Kuwait
And 1 reference each, to each of the following:
Americans and other foreigners being unlawfully held in Saddam's prison system
Saddam's role in an abortive effort to assassinate former President George H W Bush while he was visiting Kuwait in the early 90's
Regime change
Al Queda
Democracy
There is no reference whatsoever - anywhere in the 2002 AUMF resolution - to oil, empire, Israel, Iran, religion, integrating Iraq into the global market economy, constructing long term enduring military bases, or reforming the political systems of authoritarian governments throughout the Middle East.
A dispassionate observer (say, an alien from outer space) reading the 2002 Iraq war AUMF resolution would conclude that the overriding concerns were preserving the UN's role under international law, and protecting the United States from a threatened imminent attack with weapons of mass destruction wielded either by Saddam's military directly, or by Iraq providing WMD to international terrorists (53 references out of a total of 82).
And the same dispassionate observer, reviewing the flow of events over the last five years, would conclude that each of these stated overriding justifications for launching an attack upon Iraq were totally false, and almost certainly were known to be fraudulent.
The UN Security Council's refusal to endorse the invasion was ignored.
There were no weapons of mass destruction.
There was no cooperative relationship between Saddam and Osama, nor between the comparatively secular Baathist regime and fundamentalist jihadis fixated upon waging holy war on the infidels.
No UN approval. No WMD. No connection to international terrorists. Now, no Saddam, nor even any sons of Saddam. What's left?
Well, you be the judge.
Senator Harry Reid, Senator Carl Levin, Senator John Warner, and everyone else holding forth as sincerely interested in forcing a bipartisan change of course in the Middle East should join with Senator Byrd and Clinton "to sunset the outdated 2002 authorization to use force in Iraq, and call on the President to request a new authorization for the new mission in which our troops find themselves."
I for one can't wait to see a new, proposed authorization put down in writing by the White House, the GOP, and the other Iraq occupation supporters.
It can't possibly be as bad, or as big a national embarassment, as the AUMF resolution that sits there still, enshrined in the federal Code, from the tumultuous fall of 2002, so long overripe for repeal.
By all means, let's then have a grown up debate, followed by a roll call show of hands. That should clarify for 2008 American voters just who who inside the DC beltway wants to stay in Iraq and why, and who it is that wants to go.
First things first. Repeal the AUMF.
Bill from Saginaw
We are clearly living a lie of one sort or the other. Either we are living in a bona fide Empire, in which case the leaders of this nation should disband with the illusion of democracy altogether -- but be very clear and forthright that we are a nation wishing to extend its cultural, economic and military hegemony in selected regions for the benefit of all citizens in the Empire, and at any cost to those who would resist.
Or else we need to be clear that we are a nation run by a corporate mafia, who couldn't care less about the finer points of either democracy or Empire.
MOST of us are doing a lot of talk about WMD's. Whether Saddam had them is not really the question in the mind of many outside the U.S.
The question now is "Which country is going to be invaded next?". Since Emperor GW and Cheney have demolished the precedent of NOT invading other sovereign nations unless they have attacked us and have removed Congress from the picture, no one has confidence that they won't do it again and soon!
The principle of respecting national sovereignty has been forgotten and was the linkpin that gave the U.S. trust around the world. With that gone and the current occupants still sitting in the White House, planning a hit on Iran [by us or our 'buddy' Israel] we lost this war before it stated and any other.
We need IMPEACHMENT proceedings to begin NOW and allow the people to finally look at all the evidence.
My money is on resignations [and pardons by whoever gets to stay] happening before the proceedings can start. Just as Nixon knew what was coming and was gone in days, this new crew of federal government dismantlers will be gone in a flash. OR they will start another war and claim executive privilege to remain as liars in chief.
We have a lot of rebuilding here to do before the U.S. will regain what was it's standing with most of the world. We need to start by showing the world and any new prospective president that this sort of behavior and shredding of the Constitution will not be tolerated.
We start by the first double IMPEACHMENT in our history and that means Bush and Cheney.
The Congress is just wasting our time, money, lives of our soldiers, their families and those of Iraqis until they hold this Executive accountable. Otherwise, WHATEVER Congress thinks it is doing will be changed with a simple signing statement to make the legislation anything Bush or Cheney want.
Times a wastin'!
Re: COMarc September 6th, 2007 12:14 pm who wrote:
This is why I laugh so hard every time I hear some Democrat that supported the war try to say it was because they were given bad intel. It was obviously bad intel to anyone who could think and add 2+2 and get the correct answer. Thus its also obvious that the Democrats voted yes to support the war because they really wanted to support the war.
COMarc has a glaring error in his 2+2 calcs... Perhaps it would be explained how a vote early in October 2002 could have the knowledge of the UN inpsections that moved into Iraq in December but did not get fully functioning and NOT finding WMD until January through early March 2003.
I wholeheartedly agree that the UN Inspection teams were the best and only reliable intel on the status of Hussein's WMD. So the better math quiz would be to ask President Bush why he took 0 + 0 to equal KICK THE INSPECTORS OUT and spend 3760 US lives and $500,000,000 to find the WMD on his own.
Perhaps Nostradimous and Jeane Dixon would meet COMarc's criteria for Democratic Senator and Rep?
There was about a week there during the early run up to the invasion that some mummerings from the intel community did get into the NPR,and UP news, which weakly imtimated "no evidence of WMD's in Iraq", and other subtle decensions, but it only lasted 5 to 7 days before it was totally quashed. We can all think of "the multitude of sins" which are "covered, or taken care of" by bush's war, from THEIR prospective. Personally, I always felt it was that once "engaged" in war, all the tax money issued for that war could so easily be diverted back into Wall Street to prop up an economy still reeling from the dotcom bubble bust. I'm convinced that at least the power base of the Dem party knew that a "convenient little war" was the ONLY ticket to refurbish such a busted economy. The bush league is not famous for its adroitness, and it was interesting to watch the number of times the stock market would be lagging and dragging days before Congress would approve another "War Funding", and as soon as it was announced, BLIP, up goes the frikkin market. Didn't any of you notice it??? And it has been this diversion of war funds that allowed any and all claims to "the fundamental economy is sound" crap they love to claim. Pity, their housing bubble will show them for the miscreants they truly will be exposed to be.
Even I knew there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Just like I knew that the attacks on 9/11 were not as they seemed/or we were told. Anyone who paid attention to the run up to the war, i.e. actually listened to what the real experts (inspectors) said, and who had previously read the PNAC documents, had to know that. The attacks were perprtrated in NY by elements of our own government to be "the New Pearl Harbor" that would scare Americans enought to go along with the neo-con, imperialist power and oil grab in Iraq. From there the plan is to build and maintain permanent bases to support the takeover of the rest of the mid-east.
Every day I want to laugh at the Bushes (Daddy, Jeb and W) and Cheney, Wolfowitz, Kristol, Rumsfeld, Perle and all the neo-fascist creeps who thought they could waltz into Iraq and takeover the world in a week. That as the only "remaining Superpower" they were invincible.
And then I want to cry for the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have died, and the thousands of America's sons and daughters who have been killed and wounded, all because of the sociopathic delusions of a bunch of wealthy elitist pricks who think they should be running a new world order. I fear that too many of those in our governmental bodies (Sen and House) are so corrupted at this point that they will never move to impeach all of the Bush administration who remain in office. But, I also fear that if impeachment does not happen and soon, those nukUlar warheads that were "mistakenly" moved to Ala will be on their way to Iran and then we're really screwed.
This is old news. Paul Wolfowitz admitted in an interview published in Vanity Fair in May 2003 that the WMD story was concocted as a way to get the American people's support for the invasion:
"The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason..."
The interview is even reproduced on the military's website:
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=2594
Anyone who is not completely brain-dead knew what was going on with the rush to war just as they knew that a bunch of troglodyte religious zealots brandishing box cutters did not destroy the World Trade Center.
It didn't stop them then and it won't stop them from bombing the crap out of Iran next.
These people are going to do whatever the hell they want until something FORCES them to stop!
The U.N. must declare America a rogue state and apply very severe sanctions. The only thing that's got any chance of slowing this runaway train is unified, global condemnation, censure and isolation of the greatest threat to human life on the planet.
Who cares about that stuff anyway? You should be watching the Entertainment Network, Survivor, Americas Next Top Model, or something really important! Go shopping!
yes, it was clear to nonexperts that the wmd story was not believable. yes, democrats should not use misinformation as an excuse.
yes, it still is a good thing to give evidence that cheney/bush lied about the intelligence.
BUT: even if iraq had wmd's, does this mean it should have been attacked? it is assumed that if there had been wmd's then the war would be justified.
every country can expect to be attacked then if the US and israel feel like attacking.
why is this point being dredged up again by Blumenthal? is this some kind of mind game he's playing? its like somebody posting a sept2007 article on Katrina with the headline: Katrina Hurricane Now Proved.
B's supposedly new info isn't needed to confirm what a dozen former bush insiders, intel & truthful military officials have already documented beyond doubt.
And not just about NO WMD's. There was also never any link between Saddam and 911 and no Al Qaeda operating in Iraq.
The fact that these points are being re-debated this late in the game is surreal.
Sure Bush lied, the lie of MOST importance is, he told Congress he woud NEVER go to war until ALL other options had been exhausted. As soon as Congress 'okayed' and voted their approval of his polcy and funded the money, Bush made the inspectors leave Iraq and proceeded to get the troops lined up.
That lie to Congress was the critical lie, for without their approval, it may have never happened. Did everyone know he was lying to Congress? He damn sure fooled a lot of them. Every Monday morning quarterbck knew. Just read all of the blogs here, there are a few real wizards. What is ironic is, our military used weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and are still using them every day. We've literally destroyed that country forever.
Unless Bush told Congress much scarier lies than he told the public, I can't comprehend how the Congress sincerely believed him. Nor can I comprehend how the so much of the public finally believed him either.
Not only were there widspread, actionable challenges to the so-called evidence, before the invasion, there also wasn't a shred of verified, courtroom-grade proof to contravene the provable shoddiness of the evidence and the doubts any observant person would have in face of it.
Agreed that w/o Congressional approval Bush probably couldn't have (easily) invaded Iraq. But I don't believe the balance Congresspeople were innocently duped. Plenty of citizens, objective lawyers especially, easily saw, right up till the last day, that the evidence offered didn't constitute anywhere near sufficient proof.
If tens of thousands of average, attentive people saw this (and they did), how could the Congress not?
Herd mentality goaded by official fear mongering is probably the efficient explanation of Congress's cave-in. But for godssake, based on the totally shoddy evidence, don't we have the right to expect that Congress should be something better than a mindless stampede of spooked bovines?
The fuller explanation may be this: largely pseudo-spooked bovines who were actually capitulating to a political/ideological loyalty to Bush (with many doubting Dems scared shitless to be seen as unpatriotic), combined with a corporate-collusive news media repeating fearful lies to the point of efficient public bamboozling. Whatever the truth is, it's shameful, disgusting, intolerable. And possibly fatal for anything we knew before as Our Country.
I remember how helpless I felt at the time America was rushing to war with Iraq. I sent an email to the White House including a link to an interview in which Former President Jimmy Carter said essentially, this makes no sense.
I remember thinking, I don't think the American people get it, I don't think Congress gets it; the American people gave this man all this power and he is going to use it in any way that occurs to him because he can and any way he uses all this power, his Vice President is going to defend, because that's what this particular Vice President does.
I thought America has put irresponsible children in charge of the world and these children will now do whatever they feel like doing until they are forced to stop. I was stunned as I realized, no one is going to stop them, they're all irresponsible children.
Finally, after about five years, I heard someone speak up; then another and another.
If we keep behaving like this we will destroy the world.
This has been a rude message for me, willybill; America and Americans have broken my heart.
We're in Iraq fighting Al Qaeda because Al Qaeda attacked us on 9/11. I know because Katie Couric told me so. She was in Iraq that day and clearly said Al Qaeda was there, too. So the absence of WMD doesn't matter - we had to invade Al Qaeda HQ. And don't tell me that Saddam and bin Laden were enemies. That starts making things look messy and Katie and I like to keep things simple, understandable, and supportive of the President of the United States.
Nelson Terry,
I'm unsure I ever bought the "scared to be labelled unpatriotic" analysis to explain the capitulation of the Democrats. They didn't actually capitulate much. They're wrapped up in the m.i.c., and were instrumental in bringing us to Vietnam. Our cognitive dissonance arises because we expect something else out of them, genuine polar opposition to the Republicans. But our two party system does not yield a pair of opposites or a dualistic arrangement. We should be so lucky to have a two party system.
The Dems aren't spooked. Bush's polls have been in the gutter for a very long time. If the Dems were a genuine opposition party, they'd have LONG since gone in for the political kill. But they don't. It's not fear that's holding them back. Either they're pretty much onboard, or some other entity is running America, above the Republicrats in general.
Dreamertoo,
What do we do with our broken hearts? All letters to my congressman and senators (all conservative Republicans) are answered with polite reiteration of established dogma... stay the course, be patriotic, support our troops, we can't abandon the Iraqis (love that one)...
So what CAN we do? I'd like some concrete steps.
earthgal in Dallas
So, what we really have here is a failure of the citizenry to think critically and reason things out based on historical events.
As long as our schools teach what business dictates instead of a well-rounded liberal arts education (which should include mythology), the American populace will be easily dumbed-down. Hell, the bar has already been set low - not too far to go.
Boobus Americanus - this is your fault!