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Thomas Friedman: Hooked On War
Reading his "Letter From Baghdad" column in the New York Times on Wednesday, you'd never know that Thomas Friedman has a history of enthusiasm for war. Now he laments that Iraq is bad for the United States -- "everyone loves seeing us tied down here" -- stuck in the "madness that is Iraq." And he concludes that the good Americans who have been sent to Iraq will not be deserved by Iraqis "if they continue to hate each other more than they love their own kids."
The column, under a Baghdad dateline, is boilerplate Friedman: sprinkled with I-am-here anecdotes and breezy geopolitical nostrums. For years now, the man widely touted as America's most influential journalist has indicated that his patience with the war in Iraq might soon run out. But, like the media establishment he embodies, Friedman can't bring himself to renounce a war that he helped to launch and then blessed as the incarnation of virtue.
On the last day of November 2003 -- eight months after the invasion -- Friedman gushed that "this war is the most important liberal, revolutionary U.S. democracy-building project since the Marshall Plan." He lauded the Iraq war as "one of the noblest things this country has ever attempted abroad."
But the assumptions built into a Friedman column are murky outside the context of his worldview. "The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist," Friedman wrote approvingly in one of his explaining-the-world bestsellers. "McDonald's cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas, the designer of the U.S. Air Force F-15. And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley's technologies to flourish is called the U.S. Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps."
Those words appeared in Friedman's book "The Lexus and the Olive Tree," but the passage first surfaced (with a few tweaks of syntax) in the New York Times Magazine on March 28, 1999, near the end of a long piece adapted from the book. Filling almost the entire cover of the magazine was a red-white-and-blue fist, with the caption "What The World Needs Now" and a smaller-type explanation: "For globalism to work, America can't be afraid to act like the almighty superpower that it is."
The clenched graphic could be seen as the "hidden fist" that "the hidden hand of the market will never work without." While the cover story's patriotic fist was intended as a symbol of the globe's need for multifaceted American power, the military facet had been unleashed just as the magazine went to press. By the time the star-spangled cover reached Sunday breakfast tables, NATO air attacks on Yugoslavia were underway; the U.S.-led bombing campaign would last for 78 straight days.
Writing columns and appearing on broadcast networks to assess the war, Tom Friedman was close to gleeful. (The man was widely viewed as a liberal, whatever that meant, and "the liberal media" provided Friedman with many platforms that often seemed to double as pedestals.) Interviewers at ABC, PBS and NPR ranged from deferential to fawning as they solicited his wisdom on the latest from Yugoslavia.
Even when he lamented the political constraints on the military options of the 19-member NATO alliance, Friedman was upbeat. "While there are many obvious downsides to war-from-15,000-feet," he wrote after bombs had been falling for more than four weeks, "it does have one great strength -- its sustainability. NATO can carry on this sort of air war for a long, long time. The Serbs need to remember that."
So, Friedman explained, "if NATO's only strength is that it can bomb forever, then it has to get every ounce out of that. Let's at least have a real air war. The idea that people are still holding rock concerts in Belgrade, or going out for Sunday merry-go-round rides, while their fellow Serbs are 'cleansing' Kosovo, is outrageous. It should be lights out in Belgrade: every power grid, water pipe, bridge, road and war-related factory has to be targeted."
He added: "Like it or not, we are at war with the Serbian nation (the Serbs certainly think so), and the stakes have to be very clear: Every week you ravage Kosovo is another decade we will set your country back by pulverizing you. You want 1950? We can do 1950. You want 1389? We can do 1389 too...."
The convenience marbled through such punditry is so routine that eyebrows rarely go up. The chirpy line "Let's at least have a real air war," for instance, addressed American readers for whom, with rare exceptions, the "real air war" would be no more real than a media spectacle, with all the consequences falling on others very far away. As for rock concerts and merry-go-rounds, we could recall -- if memory were to venture into unauthorized zones -- that any number of such amusements went full throttle in the United States during the Vietnam War, and also for that matter during all subsequent U.S. wars including the one that Friedman was currently engaged in cheering on.
If the idea of civilians trying to continue with normal daily life while their government committed lethal crimes was "outrageous" enough to justify inflicting "a merciless air war" -- as Friedman urged later in the same column -- would someone have been justified in bombing the United States during its slaughter of countless innocents in Southeast Asia? Or during its active support for dictators and death squads in Latin America? For that matter, Friedman could hardly be unaware that for several weeks already American firepower had been maiming and killing Serb civilians, children included, with weaponry including cluster bombs. Today, Iraqi civilians keep dying from the U.S. war effort and other violence catalyzed by the occupation; meanwhile, of course, not a single concert or merry-go-round has stopped in the USA.
When righteousness moved Friedman to call for "lights out in Belgrade," he was urging a war crime. The urban power grids and water pipes he yearned to see destroyed were essential to infants, the elderly, the frail and infirm inside places like hospitals and nursing homes. Targeting such grids and pipes would seem like barbarism to Americans if the missiles were incoming. Any ambiguity of the matter would probably be dispelled by a vow to keep bombing the country until it was set back 50 years or, if necessary, six centuries. But Friedman's enthusiasm was similar to that of many other prominent American commentators who also greeted the bombing of Yugoslavia with something close to exhilaration.
The final paragraph of Thomas Friedman's column in the New York Times on April 23, 1999, began with a punchy sentence: "Give war a chance." It was a witticism that seemed to delight Friedman. He repeated it, in print and on national television, as the bombing of Yugoslavia continued. A tone of sadism could be discerned.
The new documentary film "War Made Easy: How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death" is based on Norman Solomon's book of the same title. For information about the full-length movie, narrated by SeanPenn and produced by the Media Education Foundation, go to: www.WarMadeEasyTheMovie.org

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Show Allthabk you Chicanery for the link to dailyreckoning.
Even in his letter from Baghdad, supposedly bemoaning the Iraq war, Friedman can't resist. Notice that, according to him, Iraqis are strange inscrutable others (they hate each other more than they love their kids), incapable of being understood by us or redeemed by our manifest beneficence. Of course it is precisely that attitude that has launched us into most of our wars, from the Indian wars and the Spanish-American War to Viet Nam and Iraq the "enemy" is the same menace to our righteous values and in dire need of extermination. So, according to a couple of centuries of American mythmaking about our wars, Friedman's letter promotes the Iraq war while pretending to oppose it. Let no one be deceived.
Yep, very strange bird that Friedman. Funny how the media gets away with painting so many conservatives as liberals. You know like Leiberman a democrate? Too funny!
Thank you Mr. Solomon for keeping that cowardly freak in the light where he can be watched. It takes a sub-human creature to suggest bombing other humans, regardless of the cause. I doubt if he has ever been on the receiving end where bombs are falling from the sky with him as a target. The terror is enough to make your mind try to leave your body. The survivors pain from the loss of family and other helpless victims is itself enough to drive a person insane, at least for awhile. He takes plaesure in that? What a pathetic fool. Show me a war where the promoters, and benefactors of the war are subject to being killed or maimed and the innocents and children especially will be free from harm. In that case I believe I'd be inclined to say "let them fight".
Ah, but our civilians are entitled to enjoy themselves while their government is slaughtering other peoples because America is America is America. America can do no wrong. Hail the Fatherland!
Friedman is a war criminal just like the US war criminals who kill innocent civilians in Irak and Afghanistan, and soon Iran. He is an apologist for the crimes of US imperialism. That makes him a co-conspirator in his nation's crimes against humanity.
If the people of the Northern US States started mass killings, mass rape, death camps as a way to ethnically cleanse the country then Yes Norman someone should bomb, invade or do anything in their power to stop the slaughter. The Serbs had to stopped. No doubt if you were around in the early 1940s you would have argued that we need peace now- Hitler was none of our business. The world is a very complex place and evidently beyond your comprehension.
clarity said
"If the people of the Northern US States started mass killings, mass rape, death camps as a way to ethnically cleanse the country then Yes Norman someone should bomb, invade or do anything in their power to stop the slaughter"
So who is going to stop us from doing those very things?
no one is immune to an iron fist. either in the velvet glove or invisible. ultimatums have a nasty way of backfiring. force always returns when force is used. sad...i know several people who think friedam is right. anyone who says 'give war a chance'........insane.
Friedman, and Israel's favorite line: 'They hate each other more than love their own kids' is wrong. I would like to see Friedman and the Israelis live under occupation, especially one like the occupation of Palestine, and see whether they would feel the same way when that same line is used on them. This guy is a duplicitous snake that answers to his AIPAC master. AIPAC's whore is what he is.
Adam Smith who is always presented to us as one of the founding fathers of economic liberalism wrote in The Wealth of Nations: "The principal architects of global policy, our merchants and manufacturers have sought to ensure that their interests have been most peculiarly attended to, however grievous the impact on others, particularly the victims of their savage injustice". (domestic and abroad)
This process has continued to this day - much applauded by the likes of Friedman - and culminates in the "Rise of Disaster Capitalism" as described by Naomi Klein in her most recent book. While we have known for some time that moral or ethical considerations are now "trade barriers" we still thought that at least some remnants of decency can be found in political decision-making. How naive. The destruction of the Iraqi state is not enough, nor the wholesale plunder of its national wealth. Instead of paying reparations to the people of Iraq and let (because their infrastructure was destroyed by a war of aggression)the US has contracted "reconstruction work" to the greatest crooks available who, at the expense of the US taxpayers, do not even pretend to do some real work and - literally - leave a pile of shit...
See "The great Iraq Swindle" by Matt Taibbi http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/31/3519/
Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis dead, approx. 3 millions refugees, another 2-3 million internally displaced, destruction of the state and the economy, (deliberate?)unleashing of sectarian violence (Iraq was not a segregated society although the Shia majority was suppressed), thousands of weapons unaccounted for, inumerable crimes against civilians, unleashing of Shiites as a political force leads to strengthening of Iran (naturally), inital support for Shiites stopped - the enemy of our enemy...leads to supplying of Sunni insurgents with weapons.... "let them kill each other so they won´t have time to kill US troops"....?
And in the face of all this breathtaking incompetence / malice and the unspeakable suffering of the Iraqi people, in the middle of this unprecedented chaos the US has the audacity to demand that the "Iraqi government" (in the Orwellian sense) must fulfill 18 benchmarks to prove its worth?
The brazen hypocrisy and the arrogance of all this is unbelievable and makes you want to scream...
I used to think that I am a pacifist but I am ashamed to say that my initial, spontaneous reaction to news about the recent prevention of a terror attack on US military facilities in Germany was: what a pity. I am sorry - but feelings of retribution can be very strong and override moral and rational thinking.
How can someone who has been elevated to such a lofty position as a NYT editor be so blatantly stupid? Year after year? Who hires these guys? The answer, I suspect, lies in the question, "Who pays these guys?" If it were not so extremely lucrative to ones personal finances to blow the horns for the war party, these people most likely wouldn't do it, or more importantly, they would be marginalized where they belong.
minitru,
I believe, unlike some, that eventually the Iraqis will pay us back for all that we have done. It is inevitable that some Iraqis will show their gratitude, as Cheney expected all along. But, poor Dick, he will not be the beneficiary of the magnanimity, but instead it will fall to Count Giuliani to enjoy the fruits of it with which he will be able to declare the Bill of Rights a dead letter. And the Iraqis who pay us back will be overjoyed to see how the Count will use their gift to make the lives of Americans as enjoyable as we have made the lives of Iraqis these past few years.
Hidden fist? What's hidden about it? Orwell named it more precisely: "a boot stamping on a human face forever."
Don't forget the "Friedman unit" - the next six months which are always going to be crucial for something. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedman_unit
"Give war a chance". You have to be a very large asshole to say such a thing. If I were his mother I would wash out his mouth with battery acid.
Friedman is a gutless wonder. If he had half the courage that the 20-year-olds he gleefully sent over to Iraq have, he'd apologize. It's like Francis Fukuyama said when he acknowledged his error, when talking about the Bush/Cheney cheerleaders, "That's the thing that strikes me – it's the same thing that strikes me about President Bush, as well, I would forgive a lot if any of these people who were very strong advocates of the (Iraq) war showed any reflectiveness about what's happened or any acknowledgement that maybe there was something problematic in what they were recommending. Krauthammer doesn't do that, and President Bush doesn't do that. I take that as a big flaw. It seems to me it's not going to help their case to keep insisting that they were right about everything."
I can't think of a single reason why they shouldn't hang me.
You have to wonder how long it will take for people to realize that Friedman is a fraud, and a sleazy, stupid, and self-absorbed one at that. His support of Globalization is as poisonous as his cheerleading for war. Years into the future (if there is one) people will wonder how and why anyone ever paid attention to this fool.
Most Americans have itchy ears. If it's in the NYT, then that's good enough for them. Most will never critically think through the algaeal slime Friedman sells as wholesome meat.
A brief response with my humble opinions:
Whenever I see the mustached mug of Friedman next to one of his twisted editorials, I think of Hitler. Without a doubt, Friedman is the neoliberal reincarnation of Nazi propaganda minister, Joseph Goebbels.
Muslims with oil under their land are the victims of his pathological corporate rhetoric. Palestinians confined to apartheid ghettos are killed or tortured for amusement only as they have no marketable resources.
In his infamous September 13, 2001 New York Times editorial, "World War III", Friedman fanned the flames of war while the dust of the towers had barely settled. Within 48 hours of the event, without knowing who was actually responsible, Friedman was not only declaring WW III but he was trying to open the door to nuclear war against all Muslims lacking "modernity." Not long after, Bush and Friedman would be using the same spin phrases.
quote on 9/11/13:
"And unless we are ready to put our best minds to work combating them the World War III Manhattan project in an equally daring, unconventional and unremitting fashion, we're in trouble. Because while this may have been the first major battle of World War III, it may be the last one that involves only conventional, non-nuclear weapons."
SURPRISE, this came from the New York Times. It was the Times that produced article after article repeating unconfirmed White House spin about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Now a million Iraqis have died and $2 Trillion (Joseph Stiglitz) has been looted from American taxpayers via war, along with the dead and maimed. And bingo, defense industry neocons with ties to Israel were promoting this "war" (prior to 9/11), while big oil skulked in the shadows waiting for blood to be turned into oil.
And to a degree Freakman got his heart of darkness dream come true. Radioactive debris in Afghanistan indicates the possible use of small "tactical nukes" but definitely the use of massive quantities of depleted uranium weapons which are essentially radioactive "dirty bombs". Thousand of tons of DU munitions were then used to attack Iraq in the first large scale war crimes of the 21st century. This is exactly what Friedman lusted for, a radioactive slow death for his Muslim evil-doers. Many sources indicate Israel also used DU weapons when punishing civilian Lebanon. So who are the "terrorists".
And is this a source of shock or awe coming from the New York Times ? It was the Times that produced article after article repeating unconfirmed White House spin about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction so that we could unleash our own endless WMD's.
While posing as a clever and "reasonable" neoliberal, Friedman is operating in the great traditions of fascist spin and imperial racist war crimes as a media warmongering demagogue. If there is ever another Nuremberg, Friedman should prosecuted and violated for inciting crimes against peace and humanity.
Heil Thomas !
opps ! Please omit redundant sentences. Will proof next time ! Having too much fun !
"And is this a source of shock or awe coming from the New York Times ? It was the Times that produced article after article repeating unconfirmed White House spin about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction so that we could unleash our own endless WMD's."
To understand Friedman you just have to know that he is a pro-Israel liberal, and like every other pro-Israel liberal, he'll cheer on any war with any Muslim nation. The left is not a monolith--pro-Israel lefties are all for "humanitarian intervention," which is code for bomb any Muslim nation that may in anyway be perceived as a threat to Israel. The left is not united on peace issues.
Friedman is the epitome of the overly self-inflated chickenhawk closet throatsticking blowhard that constitutes the current MSM. A clone of the Coward-in-Chief, George Wanker Bush, he stands in front of his bathroom mirror, an unloaded .44 Magnum in each hand, a picture of a generic terrorist scotched taped to the wall and says, "Are you feeling lucky, punk?" And this passes for wisdom and erudition in the United States. Pathetic! Absurd!
As usual, Friedman has his "hidden fist" clenched tightly around his "puny dick", jacking off to the deaths of the hated "woggs"
george w. bush: laughed so hard I almost fell off my camel. Was wondering when you were really going to use (abuse?) that moniker.
Yes Friedman is a swarmy little piece of shit who would die of fright in one of his bombing raids. If he were really in Iraq some enterprising young Iraqi could drop a few $1 bills in the street and ol' Thom boy would go chasing after them, around the corner - no more Freakman.
Crossposted at Huffington Post (although why I think anyone would give a shit I can't say):
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You may be aware that Glenn Greenwald has been writing a lot lately about the macho rhetoric and posturing employed by the pro-war, and generally pro-maladministration, commentariat.
Friedman's right in the thick of that gamy huddle. These characters would have us admire them for both their ostensible intellectual acumen and sophistication, AND for their manly manliness, expressed in the form of tough-guy, simplistic, and chauvinistic pronouncements. They style themselves as Men for All Seasons.
Friedman and his ilk may still be coasting in the ascendancy at the moment, but no one buys into their lame and tired shtick much any more except their co-dependent fellow elites, sycophants, and aspiring thinkers insufficiently advanced to see Friedman's pompous overwriting as the shallow dreck it is.
Don't get me started.
PS: And believe me, I know a thing or two about "pompous overwriting"! ;)
The best example of the poor quality of journalism in the MSM is this. Friedman not only was given a Pulitzer for his post 9/11 columns, they later appointed him to the committee!
I note some very good work has also earned Pulitzers, but they have also "honored" some horribly biased work.
The evangelical dominionist neo-cons CANNOT admit they are wrong, because, in their deluded minds, they are taking dictation from God almighty, and to admit THEY are wrong, would be tantatmount to admitting that God is wrong.
I sometimes imagine that God just rolled the dice, and put all of this madness in motion and is just watching the show, knowing full well that in the end, all the casino's are ground back to dust and a new game will be erected where the old ones were played.
Thomas Friedman is a pro-Likud Israeli agent masquerading and an American liberal.
Isn't it interesting how some people call themselves one thing when in reality they are the opposite? Like someone calling themselves "clarity" or "compassionate conservative."
Wait, wait......there's a war in Iraq? How can there be a war in a country which is under U.S. military occupation? Which army is fighting our army or air force or whatever? How dare they? Hell, how can they? Doesn't the U.S. control all the air space over Iraq. Don't our air guys know about this war, wherever it is? Is it in Anbar or Mosul or.....arrrggghhhh. The b.s. is up to my lips.......
Friedman and Horowitz are two of the most annoying Israeli firster Neocons in the media and lets not forget Kristol and his nausceatng Weekly Standard.
What a shame that reporters, pundits and self styled experts like Thomas Friedman (not to mention most of the White House Press Corp and absolutely everyone on Fox News) can't be canned for being wrong so long so often. Isn't being right as important in the long run as being fair and honest? Certainly, if there is no way for a journalist to lose his right to write when consistently mistaken, then Journalism does not deserve to be called a "profession" as say the licensed practice of doctors, lawyers or accountants surely is.
Perhaps we should insist on "box scores" of being right or at least a warning label in each column/broadcast/story after a certain accumulated history being proven wrong. Every dog is entitled to one free bite. Journalist would get, say, ten stupid glaring errors. Thereafter, their work has to include the tagline of "probable fiction." That way, we would have a better chance of telling which ones are genuine seers and which ones are gullible suckers.
Unfortunately, the newspaper and other media owners have little interest in being right wing than being actually right.
Not a surprise from the man who told us that the world was flat. Friedman has been an Ayn Rand fascist for a long time, why he still gets credit for being a "journalist" is beyond me.
Friedman married into a $4 billion fortune and says that everybody should pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.
Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting has reported that Friedman has used "a few months" or "six months" 14 separate times since 2003 as the critical period for determining success in the Middle East.
He'll be right eventually.
Friedman is a disgrace to the US and civilization in general. He is not a journalist; he's a freaking mouthpiece for the Establishment. This fascist idiot is a three-time Pulitzer Prize winner. What does that say about the Pulitzer Prize, eh? The editors of NYT should be ashamed of themselves. Yeah, right. NYT is a complicit rag that doesn't deserve to be used as toilet paper. F#%$ this guy. Bring him home and put him on trial as an accessory to Hate Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. I am sick and tired of pundits w/ their heads so far up their rich little asses they can lick their own upper GI tract.
Thomas Friedman is a pompous ass whose ignorance is only exceeded by his ego. He's right about the need for an increased gas tax, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Canuckchuck and George W. Bush (if that is your real name), thanks for making me laugh!
Here's something to make you laugh:
http://www.dailyreckoning.co.uk/article/keepitsimplegodfriedmanandthesolutiontoeverything0445.html
There's too much rant and tirade in these comments. One has to ask: What if the man is redeemable? In the case of Joseph Lieberman I would think not, but
Thomas Friedman? You can be a thousand per cent sure of your negative judgment, fellow opiners, but I'm not. What if Friedman has the ability to listen? Could he not then possibly change some day like Robert McNamara, whose apologies and tears certainly beat a lack of same from Henry Kissinger.
We're not in a bar. You can't hit me. So I will tell you some things I like about Friedman: First, his recent idea that if Bush and the neocons are so good at swiftboating people, why don't they do it to Osama bin Laden? Marginalize him for the fellow dummy he actually is rather than lionizing him as The Desert Fox, Dr. Fu Manchu and John Dillinger all in one; and, creating the Department of Heimat Security, bothering people terminally in airports, spying, torturing, warmongering, rendering, pandering, etc., etc. all of it providing the attention sociopaths crave while creating new ones. Murderers except maybe for MacBeth are stupid and sordid so why not make the least of it--especially since Wonder Woman's bracelets can't really stop bullets, bombs or anything else?!
Second, Friedman went on Talk of the Nation with Neal
Conan. It was a case of two jokers with wives smarter than they (Mrs. Friedman was opposed to invading Iraq from the beginning, and Mrs. Conan, Lianne Hansen, is good at solving puzzles on Sunday PBS with Will Shortz).
But is Mrs. Friedman really worth four billion dollars,
as a previous entry attests? I will have to research that. Write first, research later, I say (if that's not too much about me).
"One has to ask: What if the man is redeemable?" I have seen nothing from Thomas Friedman that leads me to believe he is redeemable. Then again I have seem nothing that make me think his opinion is worth diddley squat! His world view is seriously flawed, and serves only to perpetuate the current collision course of mankind with it's extinction. To put it bluntly Thomas Friedman is another elitist dickhead with delusions of grandeur.
How was that for too much rant and tirade?
"clarity" reveals the absurdity here when he slips in the seemingly gratuitous word "Northern":
"If the people of the Northern US States started mass killings, mass rape, death camps as a way to ethnically cleanse the country then Yes Norman someone should bomb, invade or do anything in their power to stop the slaughter. The Serbs had to stopped. No doubt if you were around in the early 1940s you would have argued that we need peace now- Hitler was none of our business. The world is a very complex place and evidently beyond your comprehension."
Why "northern US states"? Maybe if you would have said "Southern US states" we could have an interesting argument. There WAS a campaign of ethnic violence with rape and murder against blacks in the Southern US that lasted well into the 1960's and took the lives of THOUSANDS in the 20th century (we have no solid evidence that Serb-on-Albanian violence was greater in magnitude-- the reports of genocide turned out to be bogus). No doubt you weren't around then (or weren't black then).
Would (for example) Venezuela have been justified in bombing Washington DC and the northern states in order to bring racial justice to the US in the 1960s?
More interestingly, would it have worked? Does bombing an entire society and destroying its infrastructure, creating thousands of new victims, bring racial justice? Did it have this effect in Kosovo? Absolutely not. Racial intolerance is worse now. Serbs and Roma who had every right to continue living in Kosovo have fled. Before the 1990's Kosovo was autonomous, they even had their own Albanian-speaking university system with a curriculum developed in Albania, a foreign country. Would US politicians coddle separatists in Arizona or Cali by giving them separate Spanish-language universities with curricula developed in Mexico? Belgrade allowed this because of their policy of "multi-culturalism". Its kind of sad that "multi-culturalism", in practice, just encouraged separatism and chauvinism-- its only barely surviving in Canada.
Milosevic was not Hitler. Serbs, Bosnian muslims, Albanians from Kosova, Croatians and Slovenians were at each others' throats throughout the 1990s. Some militants in the provinces wanted independence (they already had enormous autonomy, but that was not enough), and NATO and the EU encouraged this because NATO wanted to dismantle Yugoslavia because it represented an alternative economic-political model (remember the "non-aligned" bloc?), and both NATO and the EU wanted to dismantle Yugoslavia on the grounds of being a relic from the soviet era and therefore unfashionable and a snub to their progressive pretenses.
Human rights had absolutely nothing to do with it. Humanitarian bombing is an oxymoron. Humanitarian air campaigns are an abomination. Can't you see where this had led? You want endless aggressive war for "human rights" (but only in other, much weaker countries)? Just follow the Clinton-Albright-Yugoslavia model.
fresh1 hit the nail on the head! "There WAS a campaign of ethnic violence with rape and murder against blacks in the Southern US that lasted well into the 1960's and took the lives of THOUSANDS in the 20th century"
While we are at it, let us not forget that the USA was founded on the principles of "mass killings, mass rape, death camps as a way to ethnically cleanse the country". How do you think our oh so righteous European ancestors rested these lands from their native inhabitants.
The holier than thou, self righteous attitude of people like Thomas Friedman or that troll "clarity" makes me want to puke!
wowza. Got some new voices on here and really good ones too.
I call this "columnist" Tommy Freedom! He personifies to me all that is greedy, self-righteous, and, therefore, evil in our sad country! He has no empathy and no moral center. In short....... just another psychopath (who happpens to be a billionaire)!
jconrad "Palestinians confined to apartheid ghettos are killed or tortured for amusement only as they have no marketable resources"
palestinians' resources are the land that the israelis took and keep taking.
but otherwise i agree with your points
i also think that the israelfirsters like friedman have been desensitized by the israeli brutality that they have ok'd all these years. they have gone nuts. they have lost human decency. it's worse than having kids watch violent tv.
" How do you think our oh so righteous European ancestors rested these lands from their native inhabitants. "
The word "settler" continues to be applied to the Manifestly Destined occupiers of the 19th century. "The only good Indian is a dead Indian' -- thus spake the war hero Phil Sheridan, and most Americans then applauded.
" but
Thomas Friedman? You can be a thousand per cent sure of your negative judgment, fellow opiners, but I'm not. What if Friedman has the ability to listen? Could he not then possibly change some day like Robert McNamara, whose apologies and tears certainly beat a lack of same from Henry Kissinger."
If Thomas Friedman had a conscience, he would blow his brains out after writing a vast mea culpato be published in the Times, and the editor & publisher of the paper would follow suit. But they have another war to promote.
And if you watch "Fog of War" McNamara learned nothing.
A friend of mine, a Harvard educated lawyer, once said : "There are very few inherently evil people in this world. Tom Friedman is one of them".
Mussolini started out as a journalist with an ax to grind, not unlike TF.
Unfortunately, TF and his masters won't end up in the Piazzale Loreto.
wouldn't it be fun if tom turned into a fried man?...seriously though..his take on the former yugoslavia was all justified by it's tremendous natural resources...he really is the most stupendous mouth-piece for the corporate mob which runs the whole world now..no wonder he gets pulitzers
"One has to ask: What if the man is redeemable?"
Is this a joke? Redeemable like what? A coupon? The man is a fascist piece of human garbage who is indirectly responsible for wholesale slaughter and destruction. If there were any justice in the world, he would already be on trial at the Hague.